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BPPLEE · 2025-12-18T16:52:10-0600

Factotum said:
Perhaps, you pictured me being retarded enough to dislike whatever is anti-liberal democrat??

I have no control over your hallucinations and incantations

Anti-liberal Democrat?
That's not something I see often.
More power to you

Say it aint so · 2025-12-18T16:48:22-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Well, the track record of MAGA have shown that usually the only difference between a conspiracy theory and known fact is about 4 years.

There is no expiration date for MAGA conspiracy theories. The very sit down between Ericka Kirk, the wife of someone who advanced conspiracy theories, and the MAGA conspiracy theorist she complains about, just resulted in more conspiracy theories.

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-18T16:46:22-0600

Say it aint so said:
????
Anonymous white house officials are not the entity that decides evidentiary guilt of crimes.
Obviously the court and the jury were convinced he was guilty.
If he thought he was wrongly found guilty, which happened a month ago, then that is what the appellate process is for.

Pssst… he is still guilty
He is still a felon

It was not a pardon.

camille70 · 2025-12-18T16:37:58-0600

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 6:16-19

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-18T16:37:00-0600

essentialsaltes said:
The group’s “Club America” chapters, meanwhile, operate in high schools. The clubs aim to “build strong networks, spearhead impactful initiatives, help students register to vote, and inspire meaningful conversations about the foundations of a free society,” according to their website.

A taste of the meaningful conversations from Club America.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article313657871.html

Lincoln [California] mayor's remarks at high school’s first Club America ignite controversy

Mayor Holly Andreatta, who recently launched her campaign for Placer County Supervisor, spoke for about 25 minutes at the inaugural meeting of Club America at Twelve Bridges High School. In her remarks she tied her daughter’s sexual orientation to childhood trauma, said that separation of church and state was a myth and relayed Kirk’s belief that Martin Luther King Jr. was a Marxist and that his civil rights activism was “not helpful.”

“My oldest daughter had a lot of trauma as a child,” Andreatta says in a video recording of the club’s meeting. “Something really terrible happened to her when she was very young that I would hope would never happen to any other child, and as a result of it, she’s a lesbian. She’s gay.”

Senior Rebecca Warner, who identifies as a lesbian, did not attend the meeting, but was approached by one student leaving the meeting who made a hurtful comment about her sexuality.

“One student told me they learned that God was working on me because I’ve endured trauma, causing me to become gay,” she said.

The students group seeking to disband the club acknowledged and disavowed the post [threatening the student founders of the Club America chapter], which they said was made by an anonymous account that they were not associated with. They said they reported the account and encouraged others to do so, too.
“I have complete respect for their political ideologies,” Warner said. “I wish that they would have respect for my identity and for my existence.”

FaithT · 2025-12-18T16:16:35-0600

RamiC said:
I am a High Church Anglican, married for over twenty years to a man who survived severe mistreatment at a Catholic boarding school run by The Society of Jesus in the 1950's. My husband has been offerred an in person apology from the current Provincial Superior, and he is intending to travel to London to meet him on the 19th of December, in order to receive it.

My husband and I would both appreciate the prayers of any Catholic members of Christian Forums regarding this meeting, for his protection (and my own) as we prepare and travel, and especially for his first encounter with any Jesuit since he left school. I will be going to London with him, but he has said that he wishes to actually experience the meeting alone. This is the bravest thing I believe I have ever personally witnessed someone doing for the Christian faith, and I trust that some who are seeing this post can understand how I hope my life partner will feel Jesus' love and see true recognition of past wrongs.

No judgement of your Church is intended by this post, my own has as much to be ashamed of in terms of letting God down over children entrusted to it's care.

I pray that all goes well for your husband. I’m saddened to once again read about something like this coming from the Catholic faith. Whenever I do,I consider leaving again.

Postvieww · 2025-12-18T16:15:17-0600

A2SG said:
If you assume Trump can't get a fair trial in New York, maybe he should have committed fraud in a more friendly jurisdiction.

-- A2SG, poor planning I guess.....

If it is true he didn’t get a fair trial and I believe he didn’t. Your premise that he committed fraud is flawed.

zelosravioli · 2025-12-18T16:12:27-0600

Correct. There are no eternal worms, and there are no eternal humans. Immortality is conditional, that is the point of Conditional Immortality.

God's judgements are eternal. Ghenna hell and the worms, are not eternal - the finality of God's judgements are eternal - and thus death and hades are thrown into the Lake of Fire - the end.

The dead were judged, the believer unto eternal life, and the dead sinners were punished according to their deeds, and then thrown into the Lake of fire .

The eternal fire of Edom has long gone out, but the judgment was for eternity. The punishment resulted in death and everlasting condemnation - but that does not mean they are alive still and burning in fire for eternity. The judgment on sin was 'final' but all will be thrown into the Lake of fire - the second 'death'.

All the New creation will remember the judgements on sin for eternity. I believe that is the point of the 'smoke of their torment' rising forever, maybe there will be such a memorial in the New Earth. But either way - even those who looked upon the corpses of Daniel 11 did not see corpses that were conscious or withering in torture - the corpses were DEAD.

Postvieww · 2025-12-18T16:08:55-0600

DaisyDay said:
You seem to be confusing Donald's civil fraud conviction and his criminal fraud felony conviction. The felony fraud criminal case was begun by Cyrus Vance, paused by his successor, then prosecuted successfully by Alvin Bragg. Donald J Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts - which makes him a convicted felon.

His civil fraud, prosecuted by NYS AG James is a separate case.

Odd how judges are fine for decades then go suddenly rogue when confronted by evidence of Donald's criminality.

Both were lawfare by liberal activists with a get Trump in any way possible attitude and motivation.

rjs330 · 2025-12-18T15:55:09-0600

Yarddog said:
Accept for the child sacrifices, you're describing the Europeans that came here.

Thats partially true. And I have pointed that out. That ALL of mankind has been a conquering group throughout history. It is the way of mankind. The Euopeans conquered a backward savage people. So?

The natives were more uncivilized and savage than the Europeans. That doesn't mean the Europeans did not come and take over the land by force. They did. However the natives were no better. And I. Someways they were worse. Ultimately the European take over of the land we call the USA was a boon to the world. It provided a place where innovation grew and flourished that helped all of mankind.

The natives here had nothing to offer but more savage tribal war and violence.

They had nothing better to offer the world.

Dan Perez · 2025-12-18T15:54:26-0600

#1. ACCORDING AS ///. KATHOS. is an ADVERB

#2 IT IS WITTEN. ///. GRAPHO. is in the PERFECT TENSE , in. the PASSIVE VOICE. , means the HOLY SPIRIT. is speaking in. the

INDICATIVE MOOD and means you better believe. it in the SINGULAR

#3 GOD // THEOS in bb the NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#4 HATH GIVEN // DIDOMI. in. the AORIST TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE , means the HOLY SPIRIT. IS SPEAKING in. the INDICATIVE MOOD

in the SLINGULAR

#5. THEM. ///AUTOS. is a PERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN in the DATIVE CASE in. the. PLURAL

#6. THE SPIRIT. //. PNEUMA. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in vv the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER and means MALE or FEMALE

#7 OF SLUMBER. /// KATANYXIS. in. the GENITIVE CASE , which INDICATES POSESSIOM. in. the SNGULAR

# 8 EYES. , ///. OPHNALMOS. isa in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL

#9 THAT THEY SHOULD ///. BLEPO. in the PRESENT TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE

# 10 NOT /// ME is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , mens NEVER will. SEE

# 11. SEE. ///. BLEPO is in. the PRESENT TENSE and means Israel can not yet SEE. , PERIOD

# 12 AND // KAI is a conjuncation

#13. EARS ///. OUS in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL imvv the NEUTER meaning MALE and FEMALE

#14 THAT THEY SHOULD. ///. AKOUO. inv the PRESENT TENSE , meaning always

#15. NOT //. ME. is. a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE means. that Israel can NOT HEAR or SEE. that they are impaired

#16 HEAR. ///. AKOUO. is in. the FUTURE TENSEin. the ACTIVE VOICE.

#17 UNTO // HEMERON. is a CONJUNCATION

#18 THIS ///. SEMERO. is a ADVERB

#19 DAY ///. is in the GENITIVE. CASE. in. the SINGULAR

# A This verse show that Israel. DEAF

#B. ISRAEL is BLIND

#C UNTIL Israel and JUDAH become one nation as written in EZE 37.

dan p

Bradskii · 2025-12-18T15:47:19-0600

Factotum said:
Nope!

So what about your investigation as to where fentanyl comes from? I gave a couple of administration web sites earlier. Are you up to speed with that information yet?

I hope the answer isn't going to be another 'Nope!'

Robban · 2025-12-18T15:34:11-0600

"Sorry Santa, your cover has been blown"

"How?"

"Look at the gifts, there is a label, To and from."

timothyu · 2025-12-18T15:32:32-0600

The most obvious Christian example was when the so called universal church abandoned the Kingdom (the focus of Jesus' gospel) to align itself with the government and Roman Empire of man, later becoming an empire itself based on the ideals of man's governments rather than the Will/government of God. It accepted what Jesus had rejected in the desert. It was obvious that this alliance did not produce a government or following governments to this day, based upon the two commandments of Jesus. Two opposing ideologies did not become one.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-18T15:32:27-0600

rjs330 said:
The community as a whole wanted this.

How is that possible? A handful of self-important pecksniffs complained. Just because those squeaky wheels got some grease doesn't mean they represent "the community as a whole".

Yarddog · 2025-12-18T15:31:45-0600

rjs330 said:
No its not. It's painting an accurate picture of who the natives were.

Accept for the child sacrifices, you're describing the Europeans that came here.

d taylor · 2025-12-18T15:27:11-0600

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I believe Jesus and not a cross or crucifix.

BCP1928 · 2025-12-18T15:24:40-0600

RDKirk said:
Yes, I do expect Somalis to assimilate. You got a different boat for them to assimilate into? Or do you think everyone's culture is equally valid?

Back about 2001 in Nebraska, a couple of Muslims were under prosecution, one man having sold his two daughters, aged 12 and 14 to another man as wives. The two men's defense was that they were practicing their culture, and that they had a right to practice their culture. The Nebraskan jury disagreed.

As they should. I suppose you are just insinuating that a "liberal" would accept that defense. Keep in mind that I live in a state where the Democrats had to work pretty hard recently to get marriageable age raised from 14 to 16.

RDKirk said:
How about you? Would you disagree? Or would you prefer they assimilate into Anglo-American culture...at least on that particular aspect?

I expect them to obey the law. That's all. "Assimilated" means to become integrated into a different culture, group, or society by adopting its customs, language, and attitudes. It really is a separate issue

RDKirk said:
"Diversity is out strength" is largely a self-serving political lie. A diverse intake is beneficial, but nobody really wants cultural diversity to remain diverse.

Only if you are concerned with protecting what you call anglo-American culture--and I'm not necessarily saying that's the wrong thing to do--but just trying to find out what conservatives think that is. We are in a culture war, after all, so there is obviously some diversity of opinion.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-18T15:14:12-0600

Bradskii said:
Well, to be fair, having the administration tell you one thing and Trump telling you the exact opposite would be irritating enough. Who needs a conspiracy?

I'm sorry but I'm not up to date on that. I've pretty much given up trying to make sense of things

Always in His Presence · 2025-12-18T15:13:42-0600

Nithavela said:
Trump signs executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction’

President Donald Trump has signed an executive order classifying fentanyl as a ‘weapon of mass destruction.’

www.29news.com

I am expecting the raids of US hospitals that treat patients with fentanyl to commence shortly.

ah, the thread is not about the 54,743 deaths from fentanyl overdoses (not one of which happened in a hospital) - it is about big meanie Trump.

Observation: What next? He is going to put Narcan out of business?

Factotum · 2025-12-18T15:09:26-0600

Bradskii said:
... Progress!

Nope!
Opening the door for more upcoming dead USA citizens is not Progress to us anti-Liberal Democrats.

timothyu · 2025-12-18T15:08:35-0600

The Salvation Army's administrative costs vary by region and reporting body. According to Charity Intelligence Canada, administrative costs are 12% of total revenue, excluding investment income, with fundraising costs at 11% of donations, resulting in 77 cents of every dollar donated going directly to programs.

The September 2017 audit found that only 3% of the CRS's expenses were for administration, leaving 2% for fundraising and 95% for program costs.

essentialsaltes · 2025-12-18T15:08:02-0600

Part of the Trump administration's energy policy involves energy grants to individual U.S. states. And according to the Washington Post, government lawyers admitted, in a December 15 court filing, that the decision to cut energy grants was based on partisanship.

Post reporters Meryl Kornfield and Hannah Natanson, in an article published on December 17, explain, "The Trump Administration acknowledged, in a court filing this week, that a decision to cut energy grants during the government shutdown was influenced by whether the money would go to a state that tended to elect Democrats statewide or nationally. Government lawyers also wrote in the filing that 'consideration of partisan politics is constitutionally permissible, including because it can serve as a proxy for legitimate policy considerations.'"

The "remarkably candid admission" in the filing, according to Kornfield and Natanson, "echoes" Trump's "frequent vows to punish cities and states that he sees as his enemies, from withholding disaster relief for Southern California to targeting blue cities with National Guard troops."

If we want to split hairs, I guess the Administration is not 'admitting' the fact, but it is not contesting the fact. And the footnote definitely has a whiff of "yeah, we did it, and there's nothing wrong with it."

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