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Ted Cruz torches Tim Kaine for describing God-given rights as 'very, very troubling'

The available historical accounts of Muhammad.
Have you read the sira or the hadith? Because they very clearly paint Muhmmad as a warlord, and the early commentators like Tabari and Talib take the violence as a point of pride. It's only when confronted with modern western values that his violence is whitewashed.
Again, it's important to remember that what we may consider today to be aggressive and immoral conduct, such as tribal warfare, slavery, sex with slaves, and harsh punishments like beheadings, would have been the cultural norm and practiced among adherents of all three Abrahamic religions and others in the 7th century. Nothing Muhammad did would have been seen as unusual at that point in history. That's not excusing it, that's just reality.
There's no excusing the "excellent exemplar" for being a product of his times. Either his conduct is the pattern to be followed, and modern sentiments are incorrect, or modern sentiments are correct and he was a moral monster.
What sources are you using to learn about Muhammad and the teachings of Islam? The reason I ask is because much of what you have posted doesn't align with what Islam teaches and the historical accounts of Muhammad.
Sahih al bukhari, sahih muslim, ibn ishaq, ibn tabari, ibn Hisham...which claim do you want me to show the source for?
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Limited atonement !

Yes, God sent His son into the world, because He loved the world, in order to save the world.

And some in the world believed and were saved. And some did not believe and were not saved. and those who rejected the light that came into the world were also in the world:


John 3:16-21​
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.​
17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.​
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.​
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.​
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.” (NKJV)​

The Light has come into the world. The people of the world react in two ways:

1. Some of the men of the world love darkness rather than the Light. They are condemned.​
2. Some come to the Light. They are saved.​

All the people of the world, into which the Light came, are present, in two groups--those who believe, and those who do not.

The Son of Man came down from heaven, into the world. He is lifted up. And those who believe will not perish. But He is lifted up for all to believe, or not:

John 3:12-15​
12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. (NKJV)​
The world got love is the elect his own sheep
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Prove Mike Wrong Challenge Met

I Won a $5 Million Judgment Against the MyPillow Guy. Now I’m Taking Him to the Supreme Court.

Earlier this summer, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit overturned my $5 million judgment against MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell for having won a challenge to prove that his claims of election fraud in 2020 were nonsense. This decision is not only bad for me, but bad for America. It upends the century-old Federal Arbitration Act and it diverts resources from legitimate investigations for improving our voting system to crazy conspiracies from wealthy plutocrats. I’m hoping the Supreme Court will reconsider this harmful ruling.

There’s important precedent that explains why Lindell should not have prevailed. The Supreme Court made it crystal clear in Oxford Health Plans LLC v. Sutter that an attempt to vacate an arbitration decision because the losing party disagrees with the interpretation of the contract is “not properly addressed to the Court.” This is exactly what happened in this case.
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Famed feminist website Jezebel paid witches on Etsy to curse Charlie Kirk — 2 days before he was assassinated

There may be some truth in their statement and it lines up astronomically. The article was posted on September 9th and two days prior the moon was full. If you were going to do a ritual that’s the time. He died on a Wednesday which is connected to Mercury and communication which could be coincidental.
Moon cycle only really matters if they’re Wiccan, and since they’re doing curses it seems reasonable to assume they’re not Wiccan. Witches don’t do rituals on just the full moon and for a malevolent curse with somebody who follows any ritualistic form of witchcraft it would be more expected they’d do it during the new moon. It took me all of 30 seconds to find the listing and the person works with Hecate and Lilith, which points to new moon if they were super serious about adhering to any guiding moon principle.

Really the whole “what the moon cycle is” for spell work exists for social media witchcraft, not people who practice learned or family or secular magic. And days of the week only matter in more European practices since that’s a man made, non-natural, artificial construct.

It’s also optimistic to assume that somebody did the spell, it got written about, submitted, edited, and approved for posting, then posted in only 2 days. I think the only witchcraft at play here is the magic of bad timing.

The overwhelming likelihood is that said Etsy witch collected their $1.60, took a picture of a burned picture of Kirk and some candles, and called it a day without doing anything. Their qualifications of “master-level witch” is nonsense.
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Limited atonement !

That passage is referring not only to Christ's blood, which fulfilled the shedding of blood in all the sacrifices of the earthly sanctuary, but to Christ's ENTRY into the true tabernacle, into God's presence, to present His sacrifice.

Particularly in mind is the Day of Atonement entry, by means of blood.

Heb 9:11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation)​
Heb 9:12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.​
  • He entered once for all
  • He entered as High Priest
  • He entered the sanctuary not made with hands
  • He entered the Holy Places
  • He entered by means of/through His own blood as contrasted with entry by means of blood of bulls and goats
The day of atonement in the earthly provided atonement for the sins of all the assembly of Israel, and for the sanctuary where God dwells in their midst:

15 “Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat. 16 So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins; and so he shall do for the tabernacle of meeting which remains among them in the midst of their uncleanness. 17 There shall be no man in the tabernacle of meeting when he goes in to make atonement in the Holy Place, until he comes out, that he may make atonement for himself, for his household, and for all the assembly of Israel. Leviticus 16:15-17 (NKJV)​

The sins and transgressions of the people require atonement of all the people, and even the sanctuary.

This was done by the High Priest for "all the assembly of Israel".

However, not all actually benefited from it. Those who did not afflict their souls when the high priest was atoning for them were cut off from the people. The provision was made, they could avail themselves, but did not.

29 “This shall be a statute forever for you: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether a native of your own country or a stranger who dwells among you. 30 For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the LORD. 31 It is a sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a statute forever. 32 And the priest, who is anointed and consecrated to minister as priest in his father’s place, shall make atonement, and put on the linen clothes, the holy garments; 33 then he shall make atonement for the Holy Sanctuary, and he shall make atonement for the tabernacle of meeting and for the altar, and he shall make atonement for the priests and for all the people of the assembly. Leviticus 16:29-33 (NKJV)​

26 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying: 27 “Also the tenth day of this seventh month shall be the Day of Atonement. It shall be a holy convocation for you; you shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire to the LORD. 28 And you shall do no work on that same day, for it is the Day of Atonement, to make atonement for you before the LORD your God. 29 For any person who is not afflicted in soul on that same day shall be cut off from his people. 30 And any person who does any work on that same day, that person I will destroy from among his people. 31 You shall do no manner of work; it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. 32 It shall be to you a sabbath of solemn rest, and you shall afflict your souls; on the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you shall celebrate your sabbath.” Leviticus 23:26-32 (NKJV)​

The provision was made for all. But those who did not regard it were cut off, and did not benefit.

And we see the same in Hebrews. The true sanctuary, heaven itself, needed cleansing, per Hebrews, due to sin. Jesus entered into God's presence on our behalf, to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

Hebrews 9:23-26​
23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.​
Hebrews 1:3 affirms that having Himself made purification for sins, Jesus sat down at the right hand of God:

3 Who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, having Himself made purification for sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.​
Jesus finished all the blood work, once for all, and that is sufficient to cleans those who come to Him (He has granted greater access than in the earthly). We go to Him at the throne of grace to receive mercy and grace:

Hebrews 4:14-16​
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (NKJV)​

This is why Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for not only our sins, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 2:2​
2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. (NKJV)​

He made provision for the whole assembly.

Therefore, we are to approach boldly, rather than draw back, so we may receive the benefits of His completed sacrifice:

Hebrews 10:19-39​
19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.​

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The LORD will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.​
32 But recall the former days in which, after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: 33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; 34 for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven. 35 Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. 36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:​
37 “For yet a little while,​
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.​
38 Now the just shall live by faith;​
But if anyone draws back,​
My soul has no pleasure in him.”​
39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. (NKJV)

He has confidence that those hearing will not draw back to perdition, to fearful expectation of judgment, with no more sacrifice for sins, but will continue in the faith, and draw near to Christ through the way He made.

Those who are saved are those who come to Him, trust in Him, and remain in Him. But the provision was there for all to be cleansed,. Purification was made for all sins, and for the heavenly things themselves.

But some reject it and are cut off, going to perdition.





Yes, and the author immediately warns against NEGLECTING so great a salvation already provided:
Hebrews 1:14 - 2:4​
14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation? 1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, 3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him, 4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will? (NKJV)​
He obtained eternal redemption for The heirs the sheep
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

Why not? Just as baseless as claims the right was spreading early. "Radical leftist" was not only what the social media echo chamber was saying, but the POTUS and members of his party themselves.
Don't forget the "trans" slogan etched into the bullet casing.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

:rolleyes:

Soon after Charlie Kirk's assassination, some on the political left quickly spread a baseless theory that the conservative podcaster was killed by a follower of the ultra-right-wing group called Groypers.
Why not? Just as baseless as claims the right was spreading early. "Radical leftist" was not only what the social media echo chamber was saying, but the POTUS and members of his party themselves.
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Limited atonement !

Right, which is why Jesus invites those same ones He called not His sheep, to believe:
John 10:38 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” (NKJV)​


Indeed.



1 Timothy 4:10-11​
10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach. (NKJV)​
Jesus called none but his sheep!
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Limited atonement !



Those following God are His sheep. And those following God heard Jesus' voice. Jesus in His incarnation called to those who already knew the Lord, and they heard the voice of their True Shepherd.

But also, He appeals to those He just called not His sheep to believe:

John 10:38 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” (NKJV)​
This is similar to chapter 5 where He indicated they did not have the word of His Father abiding in them.

John 5:32-47​
32 There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me is true. 33 You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. 34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved. 35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 36 But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
41 “I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (NKJV)​
  • They did not believe in Jesus
  • They did not have God's word abiding in them
  • They did not seek honor that comes from God but from Men
  • They did not believe Moses or the Scriptures
  • They are not willing to come to Him that they may have life.
But, Jesus mentioned all of this, not to condemn them, but so that they may be saved:

34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved.

Those who were following God were sheep, and they recognized the voice of their Shepherd when the Word made flesh appeared. They were already believing the Scriptures. They were already believing the testimony of John. They already had God's word abiding in their heart.

Those Jesus is appealing to in chapter 5 and chapter 10 still could believe and be saved, and He wants them to, and He says these things so they might be saved, and that they may believe on the testimony of :

  • Moses
  • Scripture
  • John the Baptist
  • The miraculous works, or signs
  • The Father
@Spiritual Jew @Jack Terrence and @zoidar pointed some of these things out to you.

Jesus pointing back to John's witness is important because John was the messenger that prepared the way.
It was this witness that the pharisees and lawyers rejected, even though God's purpose for THEM was that they be baptized in repentence, ready to receive their King:

Luke 7:29-35 29 And when all the people heard Him, even the tax collectors justified God, having been baptized with the baptism of John. 30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.
And in John 5 he then calls them to go back to where they got off track, receive John's testimony, receive that of Moses and Scripture, receive it based on the miracles, receive it based on the testimony of the Father, and be saved. He mentions it so they may be saved.
They are Christ's sheep before they follow him and that is why they do end up following him
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

Any objections to this scenario, are flat out denials of scripture.
No,they're denials of your interpretation of Scripture.

Where did Jesus say that there would be a 3rd temple and animal sacrifices would begin again?
Why would they need to when Jesus, the Lamb of God, fulfilled the law?
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Are there demons who are partly human?

Whatever the Book of Enoch says, it is not part of God's inspired and inerrant word. Some in the early church may have adhered to the book of Enoch, but to do so they would have needed to add to what the Old Testament already included.
I have heard scholars, priests, exorcists etc talk about how it could serve as a guiding tool and how at least some chapters "are okay". (not the ones going in details about other things) surely everything has to be seen in light of the word. guaranteed.
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Does God want men to choose easy options ?

Alas,.., i conclude i'm not pure minded enough to make them flee. It seems they enjoy dirtying my soul.
But i shall try to keep the idea of your exorcist. May be is it like a piece of wood on the sea shore, that sea can no longer bring toward the ocean, once it (the piece of wood) 's reached few centimeter above its level
I think he meant it as a way of protection, not sin less. He was talking about also how evil can use our weaknesses against us
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I love deep thinking especially God/end times/bible/do something for God anyone that can think deep or INFJ introvert etc here?

We’re not going to interact with everyone or have access to them either. If you’re pursuing your vocation or life’s work the bulk of your engagements are within a narrow group and that doesn’t mean exclusion. For instance, I don’t have conversations like these outside of the site because it isn’t my focus. I’m concerned with business, commerce and investments and that’s my circle. It doesn’t mean other topics aren’t valuable but the Lord requires my attention elsewhere.

So when you speak of tolerance, I rarely have contact with anyone where that’s an issue. We’re on the same page and pursuing the same work and interests. And I hope others are following suit where the Lord needs them.

~bella
we do not have to think alike everywhere, we have God in common that is enough I would say. I love you and accept you anyway. hugs what would a good investment be, in these days? Robotics?ai? I am trying to work hard saving, hard to know what to put it in.
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This is the scariest verse in the bible for believers

Sometimes the cost is not low. Even here in NZ, I once faced a situation where a man (who had others to back him up) threatened to beat me to a pulp and dump me in a gutter if I didn’t stop sharing the Gospel. I told him I would not stop, because people’s eternities are at stake. After a heated 15-minute exchange, I said I would leave for the sake of avoiding a fight and out of respect for him, but I also told him I’d be back the next day.
At that moment, something shifted. He suddenly said, ‘No, don’t leave. I can see you truly believe in what you are doing. Please carry on.’
I was shaken, but I believe my refusal to back down, even in the face of a severe beating, was itself a witness to him that I really did believe the message I was proclaiming. And that’s why we must keep speaking boldly: sometimes the very act of standing firm in the face of threats is what God uses to open hearts.

That is interesting - I was involved in sharing the Gospel with the gangs in Christchurch and the same thing was evident. Those seeking truth are expecting truth carriers to be fearless.
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School Teachers, Nurses, Government Workers, CELEBRATING Charlie Kirk's murder

'You want a fight?' Nancy Mace demands schools be defunded over reactions to Kirk's death

"We are urging Secretary of Education Linda McMahon to take decisive action to cut off federal funding from any elementary, secondary, and post-secondary educational institution refusing to hold teachers or administrators accountable for celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk," Mace wrote on X, sharing a signed letter to United States Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

Thoughtcrime cancellation metastasis.
I like the thought process that says if a teacher does something they don’t like, they’ll punish the entire community’s next generation.

Something something party that values life and protecting children something something something.
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A record number of congressional lawmakers aren't running for reelection in 2026. Here's the list [so far]

Fifteen are retiring from public office with the rest running for a different office — 11 looking to become governor of their state, 10 looking to make the jump from House to Senate and one, Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy, is looking to become his state's attorney general.

There are more Republicans signaling their desire to exit Washington (27) than Democrats (10).

Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

And ultimately, that is what killed him. A right-winger so indoctrinated that he put Goyper slogans on his bullets, to kill someone for not being extreme right enough. Nick Fuentes targeted Kirk for hatred, and one of them acted on it.

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A MAGA Groyper? Charlie Kirk shooter Tyler Robinson's political leaning unclear; Nick Fuentes reacts to 'pure evil' - The Times of India

:rolleyes:

Soon after Charlie Kirk's assassination, some on the political left quickly spread a baseless theory that the conservative podcaster was killed by a follower of the ultra-right-wing group called Groypers.
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It Backfired - Huge Surge in New TPUSA Chapters

First ask yourself what the intended purpose of a political assassination like this is.
Why would I ask myself? I didn’t assasinate him so I have no idea what the motive could be. Historically, sometimes it’s because they don’t like the person, sometimes they don’t like the movement, sometimes they want to impress Jodie Foster, sometimes they’re just nuts and have no real purpose. Whatever it is, I don’t think the goal was to make people forget Kirk ever existed and have his footprint vanish overnight.
Then watch just the first 60 seconds of the below video and ask yourself "is this what the murderer intended, or is this the opposite of what he intended?" I don't know if Kirk was a household name, there were probably lots of boomers and other people who didn't know of him, but everyone around the world knows now. And they will be looking into his message and spreading it. I saw video of a young lady at the Unite The Kingdom rally in London holding a hand-made sign that read "Charlie Kirk brought me here".

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Is this another “I am Charlie Kirk” video? Not since a bunch of celebrities sang “Imagine” during lockdowns have I ever been touched by such a profound performative whatever.

This thing, like all things, brings a lift to a person and their cause. Some out of grief, some out of attention, some just because. I’m not surprised there was a lift. Even a big one. Let’s see what it all means when we get some distance between the assassination and now.

Somehow I doubt in 2074, 49 years from now, when we are locked down during our next pandemic, people will unite by filming a video of themselves saying “I am Charlie Kirk” or “prove me wrong” to help them get through, like they did “Imagine” by the also murdered John Lennon.
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The U.A.E. Got Chips. The Trump Team Got Crypto Riches.

Waiting for the cries of outrage from the Hunter-must-be-jailed crowd...
They are absolutely immune to this. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to justify Trump's actions, but this (and it's not the only quid pro quo) is too exhausting to even try. Radio silence.
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New belief among teenagers. What do you think?

What makes something good and another thing evil?
Anything that leads you to know and love God is good and anything that leads you away from God is evil.

When you can answer that, you will understand why so many, including many Christians, no longer see things like LGBTQ as sinful, and don't freak out if someone identifies closely with a particular animal.
So now that I have told you what makes something good and what makes something evil (and I didn't say "God says so"), I want you to understand that those people (including some Christians) are being lead away from God by these distracting selfish desires. Hopefully, they will be lead back to God's Truth.
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Trump says ‘we have to beat the hell’ out of ‘radical left lunatics’ after Kirk killing

This sounds to me like a battle of ideas for persuasion and action at the ballot box.

lol, when has that ever been an approach of Trump's? The guy led a months-long con about the 2020 election that resulted in his operatives being prosecuted for various forms of election fraud and his fans attempting an insurrection at the capitol.

Most ( not all) of the visible mental insanity I am seeing seems to be from leftist ideology in the assassins and the those celebrating the assassinations.

The same day as the Kirk murder, a white supremacist shot up a high school. A couple months ago, a crazy right-winger murdered a MN state legislator and her husband. A few years ago, a right-wing militia group was plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. When somebody broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked her husband, conservatives mocked him for months and spread conspiracy theories about it being a gay lovers spat.

If you're seeing most of the insanity coming from the left, it's because you've become inured to the meaning of what gets bandied around the right constantly.

Trump has been a genuine assassination target.

As have people on the left.
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