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[Apple Sky]

Are you really? Are you going to stop interpreting obvious symbolic and poetic scripture literally?

I'll try when I know whats what.

So I now know that Psalms is poetic, what else is poetic ? Don't forget that poetry can also hold the truth.

 

[Strong in Him]

I know, such a shame.

So maybe, just maybe you're beginning to realize that Scripture doesn't tell us everything.
Because that is not its purpose.

Maybe I can look up a you-tube video that can tell us

If it's not in Scripture it will just be a guess, or wishful thinking.

 

[Strong in Him]

I'll try when I know whats what.

That's why you need to study, not glance at a Scripture and take it literally or at face value.

Don't forget that poetry can also hold the truth.

And I, for one, have told you that.
Of course truth, and factual events, can be expressed through poetry. It doesn't mean that poetry's wrong or untruthful - it does mean that phrases such as "the sun is like a bridegroom" aren't literal.

Genesis 1 says that God created the universe; that ONE God created and not many. At the time that Moses was writing, the Hebrews were surrounded by countries who believed in many gods - and each god created, or was responsible for, a different thing.
In Elijah's time, people were worshipping a god who was responsible for the rain. What did Elijah do? He said "GOD says there will be no rain until HE says so." And there was a drought for 3 years.
In Jonah's time people believed that these gods controlled different areas of land. So when Jonah disobeyed God he ran away to somewhere he thought God wouldn't be able to get him.

So the message of Genesis 1 is that there is one God who created everything.
Moses, or whoever, was writing for Hebrew people, and had to write in a way that they could understand. He did not give scientific details - like HOW God created from nothing, how the moon and stars stayed in the sky and did not fall to the ground, how far away the sun was from the garden of Eden.
That was never his purpose in inspiring the creation stories. All he wanted us to know was that he created - and the pinnacle of his creation was mankind, who he made in his image.

 

[Hentenza]

I'll try when I know whats what.

So I now know that Psalms is poetic, what else is poetic ? Don't forget that poetry can also hold the truth.

They absolutely hold truth but sometimes not literally. One has to glean the truth from the symbolism. Most writings that include the pilcrow (¶) is most likely poetic. Also some psalms are acrostic like psalm 119 where the Hebrew text is structured so that each section or set of verses (usually eight) begins with a successive letter of the Hebrew alphabet (Aleph, Beth, Gimel, etc.).

The book of Job is partially poetic like you see in book 3 for example. You can clearly see the stanzas and poetic form.

Even though some interpretations of the symbolic language might vary what does not vary is the fact that it is symbolic language and it is not to be interpreted literally.

 

[Apple Sky]

If it's not in Scripture it will just be a guess, or wishful thinking.

This is why I listen to Rob & Dean, as they both always quote from Scripture. They don't just make things up, if it's not in the Bible they would never quote it.

 

[Hentenza]

This is why I listen to Rob & Dean, as they both always quote from Scripture. They don't just make things up, if it's not in the Bible they would never quote it.

But their interpretation leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Apple Sky]

But their interpretation leaves a lot to be desired.

They don't interpret, that's the beauty.

 

[Hentenza]

They don't interpret, that's the beauty.

But they do. If they teach a flat earth based on scripture then they are indeed interpreting scripture and interpreting it wrong. No church teaches a flat earth so their interpretation is unique to them.

 

[Strong in Him]

They don't interpret, that's the beauty.

They certainly do, if they teach flat earth.

 

[prodromos]

This is why I listen to Rob & Dean, as they both always quote from Scripture. They don't just make things up, if it's not in the Bible they would never quote it.

Even the devil quotes Scripture (Luke 4:9-11).
Anyone can quote Scripture but that doesn't mean their interpretation is correct.

 

[prodromos]

They don't interpret, that's the beauty.l

Of course they do. They interpret symbolic texts as literal and vice versa. They ignore the cultural framework within which the creation account was revealed.

God's revelation was framed within the existing culture since it would have been unfathomable for the people at that time to comprehend the true nature of the earth.

You may have noticed that there is no mention of angels in Genesis. This is likely because they would have been treated as gods and likely worshipped if they were revealed at that time. As the faith and knowledge of the people about God matured, only then was their existence revealed.

 

[Apple Sky]

You may have noticed that there is no mention of angels in Genesis.

Angels are the stars.

 

[Apple Sky]

They certainly do, if they teach flat earth.

So this verse is wrong;

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14

 

[Apple Sky]

Wow! Would you look at the Sun! And the clouds above it. The truth is before our eyes.

 

[David Lamb]

Angels are the stars.

The only place in the bible where I could find angels likened to stars is in Revelation, for exmple

““The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches.” (Re 1:20 NKJV)

That verse is an explanation of what John had seen in his God-given vision, not a statement affirming that the actual stars are angels.

 

[Strong in Him]

So this verse is wrong;

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14

 

[Apple Sky]

The only place in the bible where I could find angels likened to stars is in Revelation

While the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38:7

 

[David Lamb]

While the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Job 38:7

That verse mentions the morning stars and it also mentions all the angels. It does not say, "The morning strs, who are angels, sang together and shouted for joy," does it?

 

[Apple Sky]

That verse mentions the morning stars and it also mentions all the angels. It does not say, "The morning strs, who are angels, sang together and shouted for joy," does it?

Since when do stars sing ?

 

[prodromos]

Wow! Would you look at the Sun! And the clouds above it. The truth is before our eyes.

Yup! Proof that the earth is a globe.