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Sabbath Keeping and The Gospel
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Who is judging who about not keeping the Sabbath that's your business. And I haven't read any thread on any site where none Sabbath keepers are being judged. What I read is disagreements on whether the Sabbath day as well as the Ten Commandments are to be obeyed and which day it is.Let me turn this on you. Where in scripture does it teach that the Christian is required to keep the sabbath? Christ nailed the law to the cross (Col. 2:14). The law is the Mosaic law which includes the 10 commandments. Jesus repeated all commandments into His two commandments except the 4th commandment of which He became the Lord of even the sabbath.
Acts 11:26. Acts was written by Luke around 40-42ad which is only a mere 7-9 years after the resurrection.
No. This you can not argue because the word used here is sabbaton which is defined as follows.
Strong’s Definitions
σάββατον sábbaton, sab'-bat-on; of Hebrew origin (H7676); the Sabbath (i.e. Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension, a se'nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications:—sabbath (day), week.
You can’t arbitrarily choose only a portion of the definition. Also the context supports the seventh day sabbath.
He sure did and so did the rest of the apostles. The nice thing is that Paul tells us why.
“To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are under the Law;”
1 Corinthians 9:20 NASB2020
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To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are underbible.com
That’s true,
So prove it. The Mosaic law was not given until Moses in the 15th century BCE. Before that no one was given the law including Adam, Noah, or even Abraham. God is always involved in His creation so the law in place before Noah was the providential law. During Noah God gave Noah the Noahic law.
So if you are going to argue that the Mosaic law was in effect during Abraham you are going to have to cite some evidence since scripture is silent to that effect.
But which commandments, statutes, and laws?
James is talking about sanctification not about justification. All born again Christians do works. Paul tells us exactly how our works are judged.
“According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If anyone’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire.”
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 NASB2020
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According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one canbible.com
No. I totally disagree. The sabbath has not been “abolished” that is a Strawman. The sabbath has been fulfilled by Jesus sacrifice in the cross. The Christian sabbath rest is in Christ not in a day. “Today” He sets another day (Heb. 4).
I commend you for it. As I stated in my OP my issue is not with keeping the sabbath but with those that judge others for not keeping the Saturday sabbath. This is an extremely legalistic belief and cheapens Christ sacrifice on the cross.
Be blessed.
You said that the Mosaic laws were dismissed ***including the Ten Commandments.*** Then you apparently don't believe in Christ because he said keep my Commandments and his Commandments were what is referred to in scripture as New Commandments. To love the Lord thy God with all your heart, which covers the first four and to love your neighbor as yourself which covers the next six of The Ten Commandments; and said there is no commandment greater than those.
Mark 12:30-31 NIV - Love the Lord your God with all your - Bible Gateway Bible Gateway passage: Mark 12:30-31 - New International Version
Jesus said he comes not to destroy the laws or the prophets but to fulfill them he didn't destroy them he didn't discount them.
Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17 - The Fulfillment of the Law
He said Jesus said if you love me obey my Commandments.
John 14:15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. John 14:15 - Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
I think I've said these things before to you and if I have it's becoming repetitious because we are saying the same things to each other. So whatever you do or don't do is between you and God.
There is mass division in the church concerning quite a few scriptures, should not be.
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One Million Moms urges Christians to boycott Bad Bunny’s ‘Queer Icons’ Super Bowl halftime show
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Yup, my fellow saints are making enemies with Hollywood again, so it seems. Anyhow, I know you guys are just doing what you think is right.
Is this righteousness?
This is the scary part of Christianity: going up against influences we think are evil. Not for the faint of heart.
I want to be left out of this. I have no interest in going up against Hollywood, against stars that church saints perceive as being bad influences or evil people. I just hate fighting is all. Maybe I'm a pacifist.
But I know better than to mess with an angry group of adults who are against a member of Hollywood because they perceive their influence is bad.
I know what you guys are going to tell me: You are going to tell me that as a fellow saint I have to find the backbone within me to stand up against bad influences in society. Or...what you guys perceive as being negative influences.
But I like peace and I hate fighting.
The only regret I have being a member of the church is that my fellow saints are notorious for butting heads with Hollywood. It grieves me. I don't see why we all can't just be friends?
Is this righteousness?
This is the scary part of Christianity: going up against influences we think are evil. Not for the faint of heart.
I want to be left out of this. I have no interest in going up against Hollywood, against stars that church saints perceive as being bad influences or evil people. I just hate fighting is all. Maybe I'm a pacifist.
But I know better than to mess with an angry group of adults who are against a member of Hollywood because they perceive their influence is bad.
I know what you guys are going to tell me: You are going to tell me that as a fellow saint I have to find the backbone within me to stand up against bad influences in society. Or...what you guys perceive as being negative influences.
But I like peace and I hate fighting.
The only regret I have being a member of the church is that my fellow saints are notorious for butting heads with Hollywood. It grieves me. I don't see why we all can't just be friends?
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What are you thankful for today?
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Me too!I guess I am thankful to be alive.
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One Million Moms urges Christians to boycott Bad Bunny’s ‘Queer Icons’ Super Bowl halftime show
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I feel like Kid Rock hasn’t been that active for years now.Both are not in the same leagues these days currently.Seriously?
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Jesse Jackson dies
Oh, I am sorry to hear he is dead RIP Rev. Jackson. Have fun in Heaven, I am going there someday myself.
RIP Rev. Jackson. Have fun in Heaven, I am going there someday myself.
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