FreeinChrist said:

One inmate complained that his Bible was taken from him. What danger is there in having a Bible to read?.

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[Very dangerous it American Christians decide to follow the greatest commandments of Jesus Christ - To love they neighbor and to love God with all your sould and all your mind."]

headphones777 said:

All I long for is to have a one-on-one talk with God face-to-face, like Moses had in Exodus 33 (it makes no sense that God would speak to Moses that way back in Exodus, yet he refuses to provide a similar means for people like me who genuinely desire God's guidance in their life). Does anyone have advice for me?

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That would be very complicated. It would send the whole world into panic for God to descend in a massive cloud-looking thing just to talk to some Christians.

The stock market will tumble, panic buying, looting, chaos, sending superpowers at the highest nuclear alert levels. It will be like the end of the world.

It was so different back in the time of Moses. There were only few people and very large objects can land in the middle of nowhere without triggering alarm bells in some NORAD facility somewhere. They didn't have those things back then.

Otherwise, it's totally understandable if you don't hear God's voice either. There's always a sensible logic behind it. You're OK. You still have the Bible and gut feelings to discern stuff and help guide you in making decisions.

It can be as simple as "your time hasn't come yet". Have patience in waiting. Understandably the hardest part.

I have brain damage and all the huge problems it caused my whole life. I spent over 30 years waiting for healing. I seem to be healing now but it took very long like 30 years I have already forgotten about it.

Valletta said:

It's not about whether I'm serious, it's about whether Director Gabbard is serious.

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...Tulsi attempting to claw her way back into Trump's inner circle.

Vambram said:

The hyperbole of what you are suggesting of actually happening really did not happen. However, the majority of the American voters in 31 states voted in President Donald Trump with one of the top priorities being the deportation of immigrants who are NOT legal here in the USA.

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I have consistently stated that I do not support President Trump’s immigration policy. However, I accept the outcome of the election, as it is evident that a significant portion of Americans elected him largely due to his stance on immigration. Recognizing this mandate, I support President Trump in implementing these policies, despite my personal reservations.

Understanding President Trump’s Immigration Policy and Its Impact

During his campaign, President Trump committed to deporting individuals who entered or remained in the United States without legal authorization. Supporters at the GOP convention demonstrated backing for this approach with signs advocating “mass deportation.”

Current Policy Assessment

Is mass deportation an official policy of the Trump administration? Advisors such as Stephen Miller, along with other proponents of stringent immigration enforcement, support the removal of all undocumented immigrants.

President Trump’s own statements have varied; he has, at times, indicated that only those convicted of serious crimes should face deportation, while at other moments he has called for broader actions, including mass deportations, though he occasionally refers to hardworking undocumented immigrants in positive terms.

Major donors to the administration also express differing views—while generally supporting strict immigration measures, some advocate for exceptions in sectors such as agriculture, restaurants, and meat processing.

There are diverse perspectives among supporters of the administration's immigration strategy. Some endorse the deportation of all individuals present without legal status, whereas others believe enforcement should focus on those involved in drug trafficking, human trafficking, or other serious offenses.

Practical Considerations

Presently, only approximately 0.59% of undocumented immigrants have been apprehended. At this pace, fewer than 6% are projected to be deported by the end of President Trump's term. It remains unclear whether the administration aims to remove only 5% to 7% of the undocumented population.

Economic Implications

Over four million undocumented immigrants are employed in the U.S. food industry, spanning roles in agriculture, meat processing, grocery stores, and restaurants. An additional one million work in construction. To date, there appears to be no comprehensive policy outlining how these positions would be filled, or how supply demands would be maintained, should these workers be removed.

While the Secretary of Agriculture has suggested technological solutions could replace agricultural labor, current advancements are limited to certain crops such as peanuts and corn; artificial intelligence technology capable of harvesting delicate produce like tomatoes or peaches is not expected for at least 15 years.

Thus, questions remain regarding potential plans or policies to substitute approximately ten million undocumented workers with American citizens. The removal of an estimated fifteen million individuals from the workforce would significantly impact both local and national economies. It is unclear what support mechanisms, if any, are planned for local economies dependent on immigrant labor, or how the national economy would adjust following such deportations.

Conclusion

Currently, there is no clear immigration policy. Even top officials cannot agree on who should be deported, how to define criminals, or the number of people to be deported in four years. Questions remain about who would replace these workers and the economic impact of removing 15 million people. The situation is chaotic: some advocate deporting all unauthorized residents, others only violent criminals, while critics call it a political show with no substantive solutions.

Ladies and gentlemen, an official statement of the office of the White House of the United States of America.



White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson ... said in a statement: “We won’t stop celebrating the Trump Administration’s many wins via banger memes on social media. Stay mad.”

‘Stay mad.’ Amid immigration raids, Epstein rumors, Trump team ramps up its trolling​

Earlier this month, Homeland Security posted a slickly edited video on its social media accounts showing border agents at work, with a narrator quoting the Bible verse Isaiah 6:8: “Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, ‘Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?’ And I said, ‘Here am I. Send me.’”

The video uses a cover of the song, “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” by the San Francisco rock band Black Rebel Motorcycle Club.

On Instagram, the band wrote: “It has come to our attention that the Department of Homeland Security is improperly using our recording of ‘God’s Gonna Cut You Down’ in your latest propaganda video. It’s obvious that you don’t respect Copyright Law and Artist Rights any more than you respect Habeas Corpus and Due Process rights, not to mention the separation of Church and State per the US Constitution.”

On July 10, the band asked the government to cease and desist the use of its recording and pull down the video.

As of Friday evening, the video remained posted on X along with the song.

Good interview with Elissa Slotkin

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He promised to go after criminals, now those groups like the Floridian Cuban MAGA bloc are finding out far more than just criminals. But yes, it has always been about deporting the brown folks, criminals or not. Not complicated at least to me at all.

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"Gallup polls show that only 35% of Americans approve of Trump’s immigration policy with 62% opposed. A new poll out from CBS News/ YouGov today shows that support for Trump’s deportations has dropped ten points from the start of his term, from 59% to 49%. Fifty-eight percent of Americans oppose the administration’s use of detention facilities. The numbers in a CNN/SSRS poll released today are even more negative for the administration: 59% of Americans oppose deporting undocumented immigrants without a criminal record while only 23% support such deportations, and 57% are opposed to building new detention facilities while only 26% support such a plan."

Kathleen30 said:

And what of the the expanding holes in the ozone layer that they all screamed about it in the 80s blaming humanity’s pollution once more for the deed ? It turned out as truth eventually caught up with the lie that it was a natural reoccurring yearly event where both poles expanding or decreasing at different times of the year. You now hear nothing of the matter today .

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The hole in the ozone layer?

1. It wasn't a lie. The satellite data is comprehensive. Yes, the ozone layer hole grew/shrank through the year. But, we knew about that oscillation at the time (satellite monitoring began in the late 1970s). The issue was that humans were causing the hole to grow exponentially. Arguing the human-induced ozone layer is a "lie" is like arguing global warming isn't happening, or the world is flat.

2. The reason you don't hear about it anymore is that the hole is in the process of closing (NASA has a monitoring site HERE). The expectation is that the ozone layer should recover from almost all of the human-caused damage done to it 2040 to 2045 (UN/EU/NASA 2022 assessment HERE).

What happened is that the world got together in the early 1980s, signed the Montreal Protocol in 1987, followed through with it with additional measures and reduced global CFC and HFC use by more than 95%. It took ~15 years, plenty of lobbying, more than a little international pressure and some major changes to industrial processes, but we got it done.


I only wish we had the same success with climate change. As it's going at the moment, we're on for a record or near-record year for temperatures, while solar activity continues to decrease. I had to read the OPEC oil outlook out to 2050 for work today and it was bloody depressing. Coal consumption down ~30 million bpd (energy equivalents) over the forecast period, but oil to grow 15-20 million and LNG about the same.

NewLifeInChristJesus said:

I know that people can look at the law and its requiremnts for righteousness and conclude that their partial obedience fulfills its requirements. I just don't think it's a good long-term strategy.

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Neither is remaining in their unrighteousness.

rockytopva said:

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060." - Isaac Newton

As Charlemagne was crowned king on December 25, 800 by Pope Leo the III so the day of Christ's coming may be on Christmas Day, 2060. If the rapture of the saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) occurs seven years before the time of Christ's coming the date of the rapture 12.25 2053. However Isaac Newton notes...

"It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

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I remember you always post this 2060 deal Rocky. And Abraham Shalom Yahuda was the man. So was John Maynard Keynes. Remember Keynesian economics? Both of those men were together in England biding at auction for Isaac Newton's writings. Abraham Yahuda wanted to bring Newton's materials on religion back to Jerusalem to put in a museum. He did win the ones he was after, but he didn't live to see them make it to Jerusalem as they we're tied up in the courts until 1969. Newton would have known to be looking for 1969. 1969 was rock and roll time. The Spirit in the Sky was here making Secretariat, as the Bad Moon was on the rise. It was a Secret.

Newton's Note on 2060 was a hoax, fake news. He said it right in there: "This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." - Isaac Newton

He wasn't really saying when the time of the end would be, he put that there to throw people off when the time of the end would really be. Newton was worried, especially with it coming from someone of his prominence, that it might even violate Christ coming as a thief in the night. It's not for us to know the times and seasons. And it's still functioning to this very day. Because what Newton wrote in this little blurb, this short publicity note, was a publicity stunt designed to take people's attention away from what he really suspected the timing to be. This 2060 deal disagrees with what he wrote in his Daniel 9 commentary. Newton would have known to be watching for 1969.

So if that timing is correct, it means that a bunch of things, like your Mark of the Beast deal, has to already have just happened, and is happening now. Price action makes for market commentary. Here is where we trade the charts, do not trade a story. There's too many stories out there. Like how the pilot trusts, and flies by his instrumentation, when poor visibility precludes the use of GFR. We see through the glass dimly.

Our technical analysis, our charts and instrumentation as Bible People, are in those prophetic time periods found in Daniel and Revelation. If we can figure out we where are in those time periods, the Antichrist, and the Mark of the Beast, among other things, has to be happening now.

Cool video, spooky video, of where I think we are now.

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Desk trauma said:

Having to stretch back almost a decade for distractions now.

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Maybe they can finally lock Hillary up.

Apple Sky said:

To be honest I'm a bit fed up at answering them.

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Not as fed up as I am with not getting answers.

Apple Sky said:

If you say so, I know what I heard him say.

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Yeah, you interpreted it how you waned to.

That doesn't account for the other videos where he said that he went to the the moon.

Washington Post:
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President Donald Trump and his appointees have been accused of flouting courts in a third of the more than 160 lawsuits against the administration in which a judge has issued a substantive ruling, a Washington Post analysis has found, suggesting widespread noncompliance withAmerica’s legal system.
Plaintiffs say Justice Department lawyers and the agencies they represent are snubbing rulings, providing false information, failing to turn over evidence, quietly working around court orders and inventing pretexts to carry out actions that have been blocked.
Judges appointed by presidents of both parties have often agreed. None have taken punitive action to try to force compliance, however, allowing the administration’s defiance of orders to go on for weeks or even months in some instances.

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RandomAccessMemories said:

Nice to meet you. Where’s the street address for this URL, just so I’ll know who everyone is associated with? There are many church edifices in the city, as well as storefronts and the moveable feasts of more loosely associated groups. Do I know any of you?

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Welcome!

The Liturgist said:

Forgive me for not speaking with you lately, as I believe I told you I’ve been recovering from an illness - would you be having surgery tomorrow or just scheduling it?

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The purpose of the visit is to determine if this doctor wants to operate at this time.

Here's a tiny puffy marshmallow.

MRSHM

Definitely everyone should pray.

The Liturgist said:

Are you sure about that? I seem to recall reading that the New Testament is the NKJV whereas the OF was an original translation of the LXX.

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Well, I don't have a copy, but they discuss their method in the introduction, if you have it handy. At one point they thought they would do an original translation, but ultimately did not.

HIM said:

Correct answer? The following verse contain the correct answer ideally. This applies to all.

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Colossians 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

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Yeah, I was wondering who the "we" is when you said, "If you still don't see, we will show you." I was hoping you would clarify that part of the statement.

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Not true. The Orthodox Church has no formal doctrine akin to Invincible Ignorance or the eschatological status of the non-Orthodox, other than a rejection of Universalism among the Eastern Orthodox at the Fifth Ecumenical Council.

Additionally, the Anglican Communion and related Anglican churches, also lacks a doctrine concerning the unreached

The Assyrian Church of the East for a time embraced a semi-Universalist position known as Apokatastasis, which one can find in the writings of St. Isaac the Syrian (who was venerated by all ancient churches, but his controversial writings about apokatastasis, which were in content similiar to those of St. Gregory of Nyssa and Origen, were obscure until recently), and Assyrian bishops such as Mar Solomon of Basra. It also lacks a clearly defined doctrine at present, since it no longer actively preaches apokatastasis.

It would perhaps be advisable to not speak in sweeping generalizations about liturgical churches without a familiarity with our actual theological positions, particularly those of the second, third and seventh largest Christian denominations by membership (Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Oriental Orthodox).

I don’t know if a consensus exists among Lutherans concerning the unreached. The only specific doctrine I’m aware of in this area is the Roman Catholic doctrine of Invincible Ignorance, which states that those who have had no chance to hear the Gospel are not condemned. I find this to be a reasonable doctrine in line with a belief in a merciful God. Conversely, Calvinists, who are in many cases liturgical, but cannot be said to be a liturgical denomination for many of them, such as Presbyterians, were historically not liturgical, insisting only on a general church order and not a specific prayer book, and many now have rejected liturgy, might take the view in many cases, but not all, that those who are unreached are reprobates. However I would be surprised if liberal Calvinists such as my friend @hedrick took this view.

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Westminster is pretty clear that non-Christians are never saved. As far as I know, conservative Presbyterians would accept that. Reformed tradition typically assumes that children of Christians are normally saved, though there are fairly widespread speculations that anyone who dies in infancy is saved. The PCUSA (of which I'm a member) isn't so hardcore. Many of us take a position similar to the Catholic one, that Christ may be at work in the lives of non-Christians. Of course universalism is fairly common , though I think a minority. I see some support in Paul, but I'm not entirely convinced. However I'm also not convinced that any valid council rejected it. Apokatastasis, Origenism, Fifth Ecumenical Council—with a Dash of Theophilus

The Liturgist said:

Not true. “We preach Christ crucified.” The Gospels refer to it as a cross - St. Paul is making an allusion to the Old Testament.

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And He, bearing His cross, went out to a place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha,
It could as well been a pole or a stake as the word for cross in Greek is stauros.

1. a stake or post (as set upright)
2. (specially) a pole or cross (as an instrument of capital punishment)
3. (figuratively) exposure to death, i.e. self-denial
4. (by implication) the atonement of Christ

From the base of histemi; a stake or post (as set upright), i.e. (specially), a pole or cross (as an instrument of capital punishment); figuratively, exposure to death, i.e. Self-denial; by implication, the atonement of Christ -- cross.

SouthWestConvert said:

I recently had a conversation with someone explaining the Provisionist mode of salvation. They said that 'God chooses those that choose Him'. I was brought up more Calvinistically, but I have thought about it since, and I have two questions;

1) Was the Apostle Paul chosen or did he choose to be saved?

2) Was he forced or was he drawn to believe?

I thought of Acts 9:15 'But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:'

The way I see it, by this method, God 'chooses' as a result of man's choice. For this to fit Paul's testimony, Paul would need to have accepted by his own choice before he was chosen, but I do not see this Biblically. If you are a Provisionist, how would you answer these two questions? Please explain this to me.

Thank you.

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I don't know what a "Provisionist" is. Actually, I have never heard the term. But my favorite verse on God's decision-making on who He will save is this...

trophy33 said:

"And various other books" is as accurate as we can get.

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No its not, since there are specific prophecies quoted in the New Testament, such as from Isaiah. Really, reread Luke 24 and then read Matthew, who explicitly points our fulfilled prophecies from throughout the OT.

Since Matthew is canonical we know Christ was at a minimum talking about those books, such as Isaiah, and also other Old Testament texts quoted elsewhere in the New Testament.