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Hi everyone,

I'm Fred. I have returned to the church just 3 years ago after a long absence. I was raised Roman Catholic and stopped attending in my teenage years, both out of lack of time with HS and College and questioning faith. But, years later, I have found a local United Methodist Church that I felt comfortable with. In the years in between (and still do) I have been a volunteer EMT and work in the IT field. After some experiences on calls that made me want to deepen my relationship with God, I was seeking a church to attend. I decided when I was doing a standby at our town's Cross Walk and heard the pastor talking about wanting to get all of the churches in town to work together to improve the town and hopefully bring more people to Jesus. That working together part resonated with me and I decided to attend his church.
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18M in need of relationship help

This is my first forum post like this and sorry it is so long, but thank you in advance to whoever reads this and offers some advice :)


There's these two girls I've been talking to and I've gotten on with them very well. They are both friends but have put me in an awkward situation. They have both made it clear to me that they are interested in a relationship with me, while also acknowledging that they know the other likes me as well...

As I said, I've hit it off with them both very well, they are both attractive and kind, so knowing that they are good friends and trust each other, I thought it was a good idea when I told them that maybe they should talk to each other about their intentions with me, how they would feel about me being with one or the other, etc.....

I thought that was a good thing for me to do because I didn't want to hurt one of them by picking one over the other, and they are close so I thought they would be the best for each other to talk to.

Now I am in an inforseen scenario because they told me that they both made it clear to each other that they really liked me, and now they have asked me how I would feel about having them both be my girlfriends at the same time. I did not expect them to decide on sharing me.

It sounds pretty good because I am beginning to love them both, but I am a Cheistian. Polygamy is not allowed in the Christian faith and it is giving me a tough scenario to deal with.

This is one of the most difficult situations I have ever had to deal with. I know that I want to stay aligned with my faith above all else, which means not going along with their proposal.

With the two options left being either picking one or neither, that means no matter what I do, I am going to be hurting both of them. They are both amazing girls and it hurts that I have to do this.

I suppose the best option for me would be to pick one because I know that I would love her and we could have an amazing future together. However, I also feel that I should make the more selfless decision of picking neither so that I dont hurt the one I dont chose.

This then is also heartbreaking because I think that it means I'll hurt both of them. They probably wouldn't be as hurt individually as they would have been if I chose the other, but they will still both be hurt. I also dont want them to turn against each other and begin blaming the other or anything like that which would ruin their friendship over me.

It really sucks that the best choice for me and the girls at this point is a polygamous relationship, but it goes against my faith. I'm really struggling with what to do

What is your advice? Is it really wrong for me to love them both equally as they have asked? I feel like it isnt wrong since its what they want and I would show them both commitment and love equally. But at the same time, I want to stay true to my faith and I've been told its against Christianity.


(Sorry for such a long message, its alot for me and so much is on my mind)

2025: What is your favorite thing POLITICALLY from 2025?

For me it's that Harris didn't win!!

I didn't vote for Harris or Trump, but overall I'd rather have him than her.
I see the Right leaning politically as a precancer to America, while the Left leaning politically are a cancer to America.
Both sides have their weaknesses, but I think the Right leaning do better overall than the Left leaning ever could given all the ungodly things the Left leaning support
Of course neither side is the answer to this world's problem.....only Jesus Christ is

Rwanda’s president defends forced closure of Evangelical churches: ‘Den of bandits’ Kagame claims pastors are deceptive relics of colonialism

Rwandan President Paul Kagame defended the government's forced closure of Evangelical churches, accusing them of being a “den of bandits” led by deceptive relics of colonialism.

Kagame made the remarks while defending the government’s closure of thousands of religious institutions under a 2018 law regulating churches.

More than 10,000 churches have reportedly been shut down under these regulations, which require preachers to undergo theological training, and mandate that all churches meet health, safety and financial reporting standards, AFP reported. The law also requires that religious buildings be soundproofed to limit noise pollution and that annual action plans align with national values.

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Do you think a guilty until proven innocent justice system could ever be a good thing?

And what does the Bible say about this?

A guilty until proven innocent justice system would ensure all criminals are convicted, but at the expense of the innocent also getting convicted too. our current system tries to avoid this by making sure innocents don't get convicted at the expense that criminals walk free.

Do you think a guilty until proven innocent system could work better and make society safer?

First lesbian archbishop laments people leaving church over her sexuality: 'Very hurtful' GAFCON leader points to warning in Romans 1:26

The first openly lesbian archbishop in Christian history recently said she finds it "very hurtful" that some people are leaving her church in protest of her gender and sexuality.

"There are still patches all over the place where people continue to struggle with women in leadership and I have to respect that," the Most Rev. Cherry Vann, 67, who serves as bishop of Monmouth and was elected in July as the 15th archbishop of Wales, told the BBC last week.

“The Church in Wales is working hard to welcome LGBT+ people, but also I respect that there are people in the Church in Wales who find that really difficult," she said. "Some, sadly, have felt the need to leave and I take that very seriously."

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What does Genesis 6:4 Actually Say?

Greetings to all and hope and peace in our Lord Jesus Christ.

My general question is, what does Genesis 6:4 actually say? In other words, does Genesis 6:4 present 3 subject groups or 4 subject groups? Here are the possible subject groups...

1. Nephilim (han-nə-p̄i-lîm)
2. sons of God (ḇə-nê- hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm)
3. daughters of man (bə-nō-wṯ hā-’ā-ḏām)
4. "and bore children to them"

After the presentation of the subject groups within Genesis 6:4, there is this statement (I provided various translations below)...

(Gen 6:4d KJV) "...the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."
(Gen 6:4 ESV) "...These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown."
(Gen 6:4 NASB20) " Those were the mighty men who [were] of old, men of renown."

So the question is, to which subject group is this ending statement referring? Is it referring to subject group #1 or #4?

If you assert that subjects #1 and #4 are the same subject group, then please explain how this verse can be read where subjects #1 and #4 are the same entity because this is what appears to be happing within the verse...

A. The Nephilim are brought up as being on earth
B. A time reference it given to the reader in the form of an event and said the Nephilim are on earth at the same time as this event was happening.
C. Then the event is presented, the event consists of children who are born in the union of sons of God and daughters of men.

In other words the Nephilim are contrasted within the verse with subjects #2, #3, #4. Therefore, it doesn't appear that subject group #4 is the same as subject group #1.

So back to the original question...does this ending statement refer to subject group #1 or group #4?


Keep seeking God's truth as if it were hidden treasure (Prov 2)

JFK's granddaughter Tatiana Schlossberg dies of cancer aged just 35

Tatiana Schlossberg, the granddaughter of JFK, has died from blood cancer at the age of 35, just six weeks after she revealed her diagnosis.


The Kennedy scion's death was announced on Tuesday via the social media accounts for the JFK Library Foundation on behalf of her heartbroken relatives.

'Our beautiful Tatiana passed away this morning. She will always be in our hearts,' the post reads, signed by 'George, Edwin and Josephine Moran, Ed, Caroline, Jack, Rose and Rory'.

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JFK's granddaughter Tatiana Schlossberg dies of cancer aged just 35. :praying:

I keep having nightmares about him...

A fellow who got married recently. But ever since he got married I have been having nightmares about him. You know, the intense kind where you wake up crying in tears. This has happened 3 days in a row now. I can't seem to have a positive experience sleeping. It's starting to make me sad and depressed.

I haven't had nightmares in years, so, I don't know what to make of this honestly.

Does GOD still send people dreams from time to time? Do those dreams have any meaning behind them? I thought that might have stopped with the prophets of old, but now I am not so sure. Does God still communicate with people through the use of dreams today like he did thousands of years ago?

Aside from praying that these dreams go away, how would you say I should deal with them? Yes, I do want them to go away. Don't know how to get rid of them though to be honest.

I didn't know which forum to stick this post in, so I stuck it here. If it doesn't belong here, simply move it somewhere else.

The Leviathan

The Leviathan
Strong's says the leviathan is,
figuratively, the constellation of the dragon; also as a symbol of Babylon: leviathan, mourning.

What does this creature represent in the end-times? I suppose at one time it could have been a literal or even mythical creature, but this creature seems to represent the Babylonians of the last days, as well as the dragon, the serpent who is Satan, and some other end-time entity. The two heads of the Leviathan may also represent the two major sects of Islam, and/or Mecca and Medina. I say this creature is the offspring of Islam, i.e. Babylon the Great and the people of ISIL inspired by Satan.

Psalms 74:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

The wilderness is the desert. The heads of the Leviathan could be Mecca and Medina, or the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam. It sounds as if when Christ returns, they will dismantle the mosques and possibly use the material to build homes in the desert? Just a thought! In Revelation 17 John is taken into the wilderness, better understood as a desert wilderness where Mecca and Medina reside.

Job lived some 2,700 or so years ago and is using the only terminology available to him at that time, to describe 'air born' weapons some 2,700 years in the future.

"When it rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before its thrashing. The sword that reaches it has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin."

Dart means in verse 26....

quarry, quarrying, breaking out (of stones) missile, dart

"The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon."

In verse 29 the word dart is a different word and the only place the word is used in the OT. It means...

a weapon perhaps a club or mace. Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

Job 41:28-29 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.In that passage,

In Isaiah 27:1 the prophecy about the leviathan is yet future for it is destroyed by the Lord.


Isaiah 27:1 "In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea."

For behold, the Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; the earth will also disclose her blood, and will no more cover her slain. (Isaiah 26:21)

The word Leviathan is used 5-6 times in the bible.

Gesenius says about the leviathan in Isaiah 27:1,

"Leviathan is the symbol of the hostile kingdom of Babylon." He says in Job 38 it's "a serpent of a larger kind." Gesenius also says the Leviathan is a "larger than normal serpent and attached to Babylon." In Psalm 74:14 Leviathan is used to describe a fierce enemy.

Leviathan is associated with a serpent and a dragon indicating its evil nature. The L in ISIL stands for, 'leviathan.'

The leviathan; An end-time entity.

Isaiah 26:20-21 "Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast."

"For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain."

Evangelist's murder sparks widespread grief in Uganda

Man hailed for knowledge of Quran and Bible, participating in Muslim-Christian dialogue

NAIROBI, Kenya — Muslim extremists in Uganda killed an evangelist after a public Christian-Muslim dialogue event earlier this month.

Konkona Kasimu, a convert from Islam, was known for his deep understanding of both the Bible and the Quran and had participated in Christian-Muslim dialogues across several districts, including Iganga, Mayuge, Jinja and Kampala before he was killed on Dec. 12. He was 42.

His church, New Eden Church, organized an open-air dialogue in eastern Uganda’s Busia town on Dec. 8-12, deploying a team of four evangelists, three men and one woman, with Kasimu as the lead speaker while the others assisted in counseling and discipling new Christians, church leaders said.

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1 Corinthians 6 and sex sin and well being and salvation, peace...?

1 Corinthians 6 brings up the history of the body as God's temple, of His Spirit and sex sin such as with prostitutes and that as Christians born again, we are one spirit with God. That we must not be one with prostitutes. One flesh and maybe one soul, will... and one spirit, welded together. There is the idea that the soul and the spirit can be taken outside of space and time in God and be healed, but the body has an eternal history and must be atoned for later. Some believe God as almighty can change even the history of our bodies.

There is atoning and cleaning power in Christ's sacred blood.

If I had a spouse who committed adultery in our bed with a prostitute, I would not again use the bed. And she would be defiled, and I might long to have her back, but find it hard to regain cleanness and peace with her. looking at her spirit, will, emotions, mind and he body, flesh, protein, blood, waters... It is a bit like someone used her as a toilet. In this life I think her spirit and soul matter more that her physical body.

This makes me see why adultery often leads to divorce.

What do other Christians think?

God Did a New Thing

“This is what the Lord says—
he who made a way through the sea,
a path through the mighty waters,
who drew out the chariots and horses,
the army and reinforcements together,
and they lay there, never to rise again,
extinguished, snuffed out like a wick:
‘Forget the former things;
do not dwell on the past.
See, I am doing a new thing!
Now it springs up; do you not perceive it?
I am making a way in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland.
The wild animals honor me,
the jackals and the owls,
because I provide water in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland,
to give drink to my people, my chosen,
the people I formed for myself
that they may proclaim my praise.’” (Isaiah 43:16-21 NASB1995)

Today is my birthday. I am now 76 years old. It is hard to believe that I am that old and that I have made it this far. So, although what is written here in Isaiah was about the Israelites and their captivity in Egypt, and God’s deliverance of them out of the hand of their enemies, I believe the Lord wants me to share some of my testimony today related to his deliverance in my life out of captivity to sin, and how he delivered me out of the hand of my enemy Satan, and how he made a new way for me, not like the past.

Now I was only about 7 years old when I first gave my heart and life to Jesus Christ to deliver me out of sin and to give me a new life in him in surrender to him as my Lord. And, although I was not a perfect child, I loved the Lord, and my desire was for him to do his will and to follow in his ways, even though I had many obstacles to overcome, like a severely abusive father who was also a legalist who was very strict about certain things while he did whatever he wanted to do with me, his daughter. Very sad situation!

Anyway, I grew to adulthood, got married, and had a family of my own. And my family has now grown beyond just my husband’s and my four children to us gaining 4 in-law children, 14 grandchildren, 2 grandsons-in-law, and now 2 great granddaughters, to a total of 28 of us, and possibly still growing. We did move around quite a bit over the past 50 years, but our family has been fairly settled in one area of the country for the past 30 years, so we get to see our children and their spouses and their children and grandchildren.

Now I followed the Lord throughout my childhood and my youth and into adulthood. And my husband and I were both engaged in Christian ministry in the areas of music and teaching the Scriptures and ministering to the needs of children, youth, and young and old adults. But we did have a down time when neither of us were doing well spiritually, and I did fall into sin at that time. But later on the Lord did revive me and renew me. And after some time he called me to this present ministry, which is now on its 21st year.

He made the way for me through the sea, and a path through the mighty waters, and he delivered me from the hand of my enemy, Satan, and from those who hated me and mistreated me and who persecuted me, i.e. he taught me to trust him in my circumstances. And he gave me a new life, not like the old life, and he called me to write down what he was teaching me each day from my times with him in his word, and to place these writings on the internet so that a herald could “run with it,” i.e. the name of my blog.

Now, although I have taught the Scriptures for about 50 years, prior to 2004 I had not shared my daily devotional times with the Lord on the internet for the world to see and to read and respond to. But in these times of devotion with the Lord, he wasn’t just teaching me the Scriptures, but the reality of how so many of them are being fulfilled in real time in our world today. And so he had me reading all sorts of news articles and articles on history and science and all kinds of subjects I would never have approached before.

And then he had me reading the Scriptures in their full biblical context beginning in Genesis all the way to Revelation, and repeated, and then the Psalms to Revelation, and repeated numerous times. And then, beginning in 2017, he had me using Bible Gateway’s daily Bible verse, only expanded to include more of the Bible chapter’s verses. But sometimes he still has me doing book studies, although not necessarily covering every Bible verse. And he added on song writing, book writing, poetry, memes, and video talks, too.

So, the Lord definitely did a “new thing” in my life, beginning in 2004, which is still ongoing. And I would never have imagined this in my wildest dreams. For it all comes from him, and he is the one directing my path and guiding me in the way in which he wants me to go. He definitely made a way for me in the wilderness that I would never have dreamed possible. And for the past nearly 4 months he has been taking me through a physical trial, but I know he has a plan for that in my life, as well, and he will get me through this.

So, to God be all the glory and honor and praise! Great things HE has done!!

A Believer’s Prayer

An Original Work / July 31, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


With my whole heart, Lord, I pray
To be Yours, and Yours always.
Lead me in Your truth today.
May I love You, and obey.
Lead me in Your righteousness.
When I sin, may I confess;
Bow before You when I pray;
Live for You and You always.

Love You, Jesus, You’re my friend.
Life with You will never end.
You are with me through each day,
Giving love and peace always.
You will ne’er abandon me.
From my sin You set me free.
You died on that cruel tree,
So I’d live eternally.

Soon You’re coming back for me;
From this world to set me free;
Live with You eternally.
Oh, what joy that brings to me.
I will walk with You in white;
A pure bride, I’ve been made right
By the blood of Jesus Christ;
Pardoned by His sacrifice.

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God Did a New Thing
An Original Work / December 31, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Waterbury man held on $2.5M bond, faces murder charge in Grove Street stabbing

Waterbury State's Attorney Maureen Platt detailed an extensive criminal history for Barnes involving roughly 40 prior convictions, including robberies, larcenies, assaults, criminal impersonation, weapon-related offenses and multiple failures to appear in court.

It's too late for the 2.5 million dollar bond. This is a violent man who never should have been on the streets.

Trump’s Deputies Freeze Child Care Payments to Minnesota amid Alleged Somali Fraud

"The fraud has been quietly described in many news outlets over the last few years. However, Democrats suppressed public recognition of the mass fraud by their political allies until last week, when independent journalist Nick Shirley posted a series of man-on-the-street videos showing empty child care centers."
Stealing money that is supposed to help children is particularly despicable. Given the situation, requiring evidence that a payment is legitimate before handing over taxpayer money is a responsible step to take.

ICE accuses Politico reporter of ‘inciting violence against federal agents’

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) claimed Tuesday that Politico reporter Josh Gerstein was “inciting violence against federal agents.”
Gerstein, a senior legal affairs reporter at the outlet, said Monday on the social platform X, “At some point, the amateur effort to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand-your-ground laws.”
There is an ongoing plea directed at the left to tone down the violent rhetoric because it could push someone on the fringe into a violent act.

Nuclear weapons in the Bible?

Zechariah 5: 6-10 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof [is] twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. Then said he unto me, This [is] the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off [as] on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off [as] on that side according to it. I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.

Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, look up and see what this is that is appearing. I asked What is it? He replied It is a measuring basket. And he added, this is the iniquity of the people throughout the land. Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! He said, this is wickedness f1 and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed the lead cover down over its mouth. Then I looked up-and there before me were two women with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth. Where are they taking the basket? I asked the angel who was speaking to me. He replied, To the country of Babylonia to build a house for it. When it is ready, the basket will be set in its place.

A Jewish brother said

The word for Basket is 'ephah' which is a container over 30 feet in length and nearly 5 feet in diameter.

Now as to the woman in the basket, the word for woman in Hebrew is Isha. According to the angel the woman in the ephah is "wickedness." Well it doesn't make any sense until you see that the word "woman" is a mistranslation.

It is not a woman that is in the ephah but a fire. Same in verse nine. There are not two women but two fires.

The word for fire offering is Aisha. It has the same consonants as Isha. For centuries the Hebrew manuscripts came from a Karaite Mesorah (received text) and there was a hirik (dot) underneath the letter aleph, the same letter for both Isha and Aisha. It is in every Hebrew text I own. The context must be employed to makes sense of it all

This is the wickedness. It is anevil fire offering (aisha).

What is the significance of the lead cover? Well in nuclear missile, noncritical masses of Uranium-235 is encased in lead, is it not?

Is this is a possible nuclear device being discussed in this passage?

Look up at the first few verses of chapter 5. We have a flying "roll" or megillah in Hebrew. That means it is something that is cylindrical in shape. It is flying. It is 20 cubits by 10 cubits. The same dimensions as the ephah. It is a curse that effects the whole earth. Earth is rendered eretz. Could it be a reference to Israel? It is common parlance among Jews to refer to Israel as simply "the Land." It consumes houses, stones, and timbers. It quite destructive, obviously.

The two fires could be a reference to a two-stage nuclear blast! Not sure on\~that one. My understanding of the science of nuclear weapons is woefully limited.

This might be a nuclear war or something,
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So there is this female Christian singer who I don't think people have really ever heard of, but I used to listen to some of her music growing up. I revisited one of her songs this evening and enjoyed listening to it.

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I don't know, some of her stuff just stirs my soul and moves me.
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Listen To Keith Green

I've been listening to Keith Green for some time now. Wow, I must say I love listening to his music. It's amazing to enjoy while driving. I listen to it nearly every day. My favorite songs of his are "Your Love Broke Through" and "Here Am I, Send Me". That's all I wanted to say, listen to Keith Green. If you have never heard of Keith Green before, now you have.

God Bless You!
Remember Jesus Loves You!

Misspelled Minnesota day care closed last week, state claims — on same day owners told The Post it’s up and running

Misspelled Minnesota day care closed last week, state claims — on same day owners told The Post it’s up and running


MINNEAPOLIS — The misspelled day care at the center of viral outrage over the Somali community’s multibillion-dollar fraud scandal shut down last week, the head of Minnesota’s child services department claimed Monday — at the same time that the owners of the facility put on a dog and pony show for The Post to demonstrate that it was really a working day care and not a front.
Tikki Brown, commissioner of Minnesota’s Department of Children, Youth and Families, told reporters that her staff found no evidence of fraud at any of the day cares highlighted by YouTuber Nick Shirley.​
She stated that the Quality “Learing” Center had closed.​

Reading the Bible in a year

I want to start a reading the Bible in a year plan, and was wondering which format to use. I saw three that I was interested in - the Canonical format where it is read straight through from Genesis to Revelation, the Chronological format where it is read as it historically happened, and one that takes some from the OT, the NT, and Psalms or Proverbs on a daily basis.

Anyone have any ideas or recommendations regarding which method might be best?

US removal of panels honoring Black soldiers at WWII cemetery in Europe draws backlash

“The signs at Margraten are not intended to promote an agenda that criticizes America,” [the US ambassador] wrote on social media following a visit to the cemetery after the controversy had erupted.

[One of the panels noted the fact that the US Army was segregated at the time of WWII. An FOIA request reveals the move was made directly as a result of Trump's anti-DEI policies.]

Boom Boom


I suppose it was inevitable.

Russian “Ghost Ship” Sank (in 2024) While Smuggling Nuclear Reactor Parts Likely Bound for North Korea

Russian “Ghost Ship” Sank While Smuggling Nuclear Reactor Parts Likely Bound for North Korea

Spanish investigators have confirmed that the Russian cargo vessel Ursa Major, which sank off the coast of Cartagena in December 2024, was carrying undeclared nuclear reactor components likely bound for North Korea.

Though the ship’s manifest listed only empty containers and port equipment, aerial images revealed two large, undeclared containers at the stern. Authorities later identified them as housings for VM-4SG nuclear reactors.

Spain concluded the shipment was headed for the North Korean port of Rason, which lacks the infrastructure to handle such cargo without specialized cranes—also found onboard.

A distress signal followed on December 23. Spanish rescue units responded and found the ship heavily tilted. The captain claimed mechanical failure, but hull damage showed signs of an external strike consistent with a supercavitating torpedo.

The Russian warship Ivan Gren soon arrived, demanded control of the site, and launched flares—likely to disrupt satellite surveillance. Shortly after, the Ursa Major disappeared from the surface. Seismographs recorded underwater explosions, and the ship sank to a depth of 2,500 meters.

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