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The Liturgist · 2025-05-02T08:21:34-0500

FireDragon76 said:
In Florida, much of the time stores aren't even stocked with appropriate clothing for the climate, just the same type of stuff you get all along the east coast. I've even seen stores stock thermal underwear, something I've never really needed in all my 25+ years of living here. It gets down to below freezing maybe once every two years, and then only in the morning.

And when it does it messes with the citrus growers. Fortunately there is some redundancy between California and Florida in this regard although we have less citrus growing than in the past. Lots of citrus growers switched to avocado because its more profitable. Nonetheless Florida and California are the two great citrus states.

bbbbbbb · 2025-05-02T08:21:30-0500

thread

seeking.IAM · 2025-05-02T08:21:17-0500

Even within my own state, I am struck by differences in congregational cultures. I moved from my city with its flagship Episcopal Chruch having high churchmanship where ushers and many men were in suits. In my new church a few hours away, I feel like the oddity showing up at church in a tie and jacket, and even quirkier when I feel like it is bowtie day. I reckon I don't really mind being "that guy." I like to swim upstream.

essentialsaltes · 2025-05-02T08:20:43-0500

Vambram said:
That tells me nothing.
What was his real name.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pardon-michael-flynn-russia-aeef585b08ba6f2c763c8c37bfd678ed

Flynn was ousted from his position in February 2017 after news broke that Obama administration officials had warned the White House that Flynn had indeed discussed sanctions with Kislyak and was vulnerable to blackmail.

bbbbbbb · 2025-05-02T08:20:04-0500

Frank the franchiser

durangodawood · 2025-05-02T08:19:50-0500

rambot said:
Trump believes in rhe version of Yaweh that understands that trump NEVER needs forgiveness cause he never does anything wrong.

You know. That version of the Christian God...who sent his Son to the cross for...giggles I guess according to trump.

Heartfelt. Yeah

I remember that. It was a repudiation of the fundamental Christian concept of the relationship between a man and Jesus - at least for himself.

bbbbbbb · 2025-05-02T08:15:42-0500

halo

FireDragon76 · 2025-05-02T08:14:46-0500

The IbanezerScrooge said:
How disgusting. Christians should be disgusted too. We all know this is for show and that the convicted felon in the White House shares exactly zero "Judeo-Christian" values with any Christian denomination.

He's using Christianity as a prop and a useful tool to shore up his support and power.

Yes, it is disheartening. But also a sign of the times in which we live.

The Gospels warn us of the "abomination of desolation" standing in the holy place. This is when religion is perverted to serve the desire for empire.

Ophiolite · 2025-05-02T08:11:44-0500

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
And that's entirely for you do to. Though when it comes to creationist PRATTs, it's a distinction without a difference.

Be aware that for fence sitters such an open arrogance would push them off the fence in, from the evolutionist perspective, the wrong direction.
But at least I see you have adopted "claim/argument" in preference to "claim", so my good deed for the day is done and I can go scrape moss off the driveway.

FireDragon76 · 2025-05-02T08:11:39-0500

Michie said:
I’m familiar. But I’m not interested. A lot of Christian’s find elective abortion abhorrent and outside the teachings of Christianity. Catholics and other Christians are quite aware of other groups that think otherwise.

These "other Christians" are latecomers. Historically, Protestant churches didn't take a political stance on abortion until the late 1970's, with even many conservative Evangelicals considering it something that shouldn't be a political issue. The Mainline Protestant tradition isn't exceptional in its ethics on abortion, as a result.

Protestants believe in the right of individuals to personal moral deliberation, that part of our core identity that developed out of Protestant ethics, starting all the way back with Luther.

BCP1928 · 2025-05-02T08:11:11-0500

David Lamb said:
But it does have to do with creation, which is one of the topics of this forum.

But it has nothing to do with creationism or evolution. An evolutionary biologists or a layman who understands evolutionary theory can believe that God 'designed' the Universe--or not, as his faith dictates.

Leaf473 · 2025-05-02T08:09:52-0500

This passage came to my mind

I will bring these to my holy mountain
and make them joyful in my house of prayer
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar
for my house will be called a house of prayer for all peoples

rambot · 2025-05-02T08:09:27-0500

Trump believes in rhe version of Yaweh that understands that trump NEVER needs forgiveness cause he never does anything wrong.

You know. That version of the Christian God...who sent his Son to the cross for...giggles I guess according to trump.

Heartfelt. Yeah

Godsunworthyservant · 2025-05-02T08:09:20-0500

DragonFox91 said:
I'm not sure. We'll cite the NT & even the OT & when that's insufficient, the Catholics will fall back on the Apocrypha. Since the OT & NT are both contradicting their doctrine, they have to pull it from somewhere else. It can't contradict

And the beat goes on. Most churches these days have to jump through literary and theological hoops to defend their church doctrine. As for the Apocrypha, I believe that if Paul was indeed suggesting that Timothy study it, he certainly didn't recommend basing church doctrine on it.

RocksInMyHead · 2025-05-02T08:09:02-0500

A2SG said:
Nope. Because he was on trial, and when he threatened potential witnesses and jurors, it hampered the court's ability to give him a fair trial. Of course, the last thing Trump wanted was a fair trial. And the verdict shows us why.

And, it should be noted that, especially in high-profile trials like this, jurors can be sequestered and are not permitted to read or watch or listen to anything about the trial (regardless of sequestration) - so a witness speaking out in public should have no impact on the verdict. Recently, a judge in my area was tried (and convicted) for attempted murder and aggravated assault after she shot her ex-boyfriend. The fact that she was a judge came as a surprise to the jury once they had delivered their verdict and were allowed access to their phones again.

Jury sequestration - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-05-02T08:08:36-0500

David Lamb said:
But it does have to do with creation, which is one of the topics of this forum.

But it just says that God has created everything and leaves it at that. That does nothing except to just repeat the claim/argument.

Godsunworthyservant · 2025-05-02T08:05:00-0500

Sabertooth said:
There are only 1,198 Bible chapters to dispute. I am skeptical that there is not an awful lot of agreement between many of these denominations, which are more likely separated by language.

Let me start by saying, if it's not already obvious, I'm not an orthodox Christian. And yes there is a lot of agreement between different denominations. That's why it's so mystifying to me how we divide ourselves over those few things on which we disagree. I've noticed that most of the major disagreements come from differences over the teachings of men and rarely over those of Christ. Christ taught pretty plainly and the main way I see that His teachings become controversial is when they are put together with the teachings of men. I also don't buy the language barrier as if that were a thing, then wouldn't those who speak ancient Hebrew or Greek have an advantage. I believe that there are good translators in most every language these days.

rambot · 2025-05-02T08:03:36-0500

Huh! This is all great!!

DragonFox91 · 2025-05-02T08:03:15-0500

When Paul says there is no male or female in Christ, he's saying Christ sees male & female the same, we have the same identity to him, not that we become the same

Yarddog · 2025-05-02T08:02:53-0500

purehaggis said:
So the problem I have now not only am I psychopathic but I was extremely evil u could say worse than some Netflix documentaries I don’t feel remorse or empathy or love I only feel pain, pleasure, anger sometimes enjoyment, I was baptised under Church of Scotland as a baby so if I decided to become catholic I will have to confess all my sins to priest I can almost guarantee what he would here is the worst he has ever heard and most likely never forget a lot of the sins I have committed I also have committed so many since been a baby that it would be weeks maybe months of confession and even then I have done so much I will no way ever remember them all, or if I go the other way Protestant I pray for forgiveness myself and go to church 1 day a week on a Sunday? I just feel being a Protestant seems easier but that does not mean it’s the right path but then catholics believe if u die with even 1 mortal sin you go to hell currently that is unfortunately where I am headed even tho I believe I love Jesus in my own way and believe he is our saviour… honestly it’s a hard one and I want to be a good person I don’t want to be evil but I have been as close to evil than most people.

I am Catholic but God loves all of his children equally, regardless of the name on the Church they attend. Jesus is the only way to find salvation. He has lived the lived perfect life so that we may receive his perfection.

Jesus died for all of us and all of the sin which you have lived can be forgiven through faith.

God loves you exactly as you are. He doesn't want you to change yourself, God wants you to believe that he will change you as the Holy Spirit teaches you to accept God's love and allow that love to live within you.

There is no better Father, no better Son, and no better Spirit.

I pray that you surrender to God and accept his forgiveness and begin to live a new life.

God bless

David Lamb · 2025-05-02T08:02:44-0500

BCP1928 said:
The video celebrates God's authorship of our being. Theists believe it, atheists don't but it has nothing to do with the validity of the theory of evolution, which neither affirms or denies the existence of God.

But it does have to do with creation, which is one of the topics of this forum.

All Becomes New · 2025-05-02T08:02:11-0500

Yusuphhai said:
https://bethtikkun.com/

It cannot be accessed in Chn, but it should be possible in the United States.

Due to the fact that many Messianic people attend general Christian gatherings, I would think that it is not necessary to emphasize the difference between Messianic and non Messianic in such occasions, but to explore the difference between true and false logical propositions. Have a blessed trip and Shalom.

The site, unfortunately, is inaccessible to me.

Yes, I agree. In the end, Yeshua and His sacrifice is what we put our trust in. However, I want to know more about the roots of The Way.

We do a disservice to ourselves when we sever ourselves from the root of Judaism in Christianity.

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