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Christsfreeservant · 2025-12-08T01:30:33-0600

Richard T said:
That is a good word and I appreciate your willingness to share it. Santa is also perhaps the most famous lie since it was invented. One that can wreck a child's innocence creating mistrust and the start of cynicism.

Richard T, thank you for reading, and for your response. All glory to God! Santa is definitely one of the top of the list of the most famous lies.

Perpetual Student · 2025-12-08T01:29:20-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
Poor poor narco terrorists drug smugglers. If only they had the same level of outrage for the kids they kill every year with their cargo.

Let me ask two simple questions:
1) are you in favour of applying and protecting the rule of law, without ifs or buts and without exceptions?
2) Do you adhere to the principle that anybody is innocent until proven guilty?

stevevw · 2025-12-08T01:23:14-0600

I think what they will find will shock the US. The ideology that was pushed that caused so much insanity internally as far as unreal ideas has to have spread beyond the borders.

If its all about identity and protecting people based on identity to garner support then there will be corruption no doubt about that. Information hidden, bad actors protected, buying power and exploiting power. All the red flags were there and they hid them because they controlled that information.

martinlb · 2025-12-08T01:07:47-0600

The main concern I've got is this. What does how we speak resound to to a person whose background isn't Christian faith? We would be speaking in a manner that's foreign. What does that convey about being a Christian?

Lots of people from my past would respond to this question with what I'd call righteous indignation. Remember, though, the ONLY people Jesus got angry with were the religious authorities and teachers of the day. They were indulging themselves in self-serving practices that blocked the public from access to God.

And I'd ask those of you who object to my objection to take a step back and seriously think about this. We're having enough trouble as it is reaching the people God calls us to reach. What do you think the message is that we're sending when we speak in KJ English? And talk about pillowing our heads in slumber and so forth? What the heck is that, anyway, to those outside our circles?

I grew as a person of faith in an environment that was full of thees and thous, church biuldings being called the house of God (incorrect at best, hersey otherwise) and all the trappings of the late 19th century holiness movement.

What do you think those trappings do to people who are hit with them out of the blue today? I'd suggest they either drive people away, or deliver a message to them that the truth is somehow bound up in archaic expression and practices. You can't be a real Christian unless you behave this way, so you've got to become something artificial.

I know, I know that isn't the intended outcome of people who take pleasure in acting and speaking this way. But it matters. We've only got so much time to reach people. Let's actively reject anything that gets in the way. What would the argument be to keep doing this stuff? Seriously, in light of all this, what could it possibly be?

Soyeong · 2025-12-08T01:00:27-0600

Jeesuspelastaa said:
The old covenant ended at the cross, where the new covenant began through the blood of Jesus. “This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.” Luke 22:20. The new covenant was made with the descendants of Jacob. But later, into THAT covenant, we who have turned from paganism also became included. This is the covenant mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-33.

God's character traits are eternal, so any instructions that God has ever given for how to know Him by being in His likeness by through embodying His character traits are eternally and cumulatively valid regardless of which covenant someone is under. For example, God's righteousness is eternal (Psalms 119:142), therefore all of God's righteous laws are also eternal (Psalms 119:160). It was in accordance with God's righteousness to be a doer of charity before He made any covenants with man, so that is an eternally valid way to know God regardless of which covenant someone is under. Sin was in the world before the law was given (Romans 5:13), so there were no actions that became righteous or unrighteous when the law was given, but rather it revealed what has always been and will always be the way to do that. The New Covenant is made with the same God with the same eternal character traits and therefore the same eternal and cumulatively valid instructions for how to embody His character traits (Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 36:26-27).

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Torah was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace. Jesus also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Torah and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:6). So Jesus seen this ministry teaching his followers to obey the Torah by word and by example, and in Matthew 28:16-20, he commissioned his disciples to teach to the nations everything that he taught them, so did not intended for what he spent his ministry teaching to be nullified with is death. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe in the Gospel that Jesus spent his ministry teaching and in what he accomplished through the cross us by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah (Acts 21:20). The reason why Jesus established the New Covenant was not to nullify anything that he spent his ministry teaching, in order to nullify what he accomplished through the cross, or so that we could continue to have the same lawlessness that caused the New Covenant to be needed in the first place, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Torah (Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 36:26-27).

In Galatian 3:16-19, there is a principle that new covenants do not nullify the promises of covenants that have already been ratified, so all of God's covenants and eternally and cumulatively valid. One thing can only make another thing obsolete to the extent that it has cumulative functionality, so a computer makes a typewriter obsolete but does not make a plow obsolete, which mens that if the New Covenant were something different that was not cumulative with the Mosaic Covenant, then it could not make it obsolete. So the New Covenant still involves following the Torah (Hebrews 8:10) plus it is cumulatively based on better promises and has a superior mediator (Hebrews 8:6). The fault that God found with he Mosaic Covenant was not with the Torah but with the people for not continuing in their covenant, so the solution to the problem was not to do away with the Torah but to do away with what was hindering us from obeying it. This is why the New Covenant involves God sending His Son to free us from sin so that we might be free to meet the righteous requirement of the Torah (Romans 8:3-4) and God putting the Torah in our minds, writing it on our hearts, taking away our hearts of stone, giving us hearts of flesh, and sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the Torah (Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 36:26-27).

In Deuteronomy 30, it forms the basis for the New Covenant by prophesying about a time when the Israelites would return from exile, God would circumcise their hearts, and they would return to obedience to the Torah, which is what the context of Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27 is in regard to.

If God saved the Israelites out of bondage in Egypt in order to put them under bondage to the Torah, then it would be for bondage that God sets us free, however, Galatians 5:1 says that it is for freedom that God sets us free. In Psalms 119:142, the Torah is truth, and in John 8:31-36, it is the transgression of the Torah that puts us into bondage while the truth sets us free. Moreover, the Torah came through the line of the free woman, so that should impact how to correctly understand Galatians 4:21-31.

In Acts 15:6-7, Peter argued that Gentiles had heard and believed the Gospel message, which calls for our obedience to the Torah (Matthew 4:15-23). so he was agreeing with the Pharisees from long the believers in Acts 15:5. Likewise, in Acts 15:8-9, Peter argued that Gentiles had received the Spirit and had their hearts cleanse, so he was again affirming that Gentiles should obey the Torah (Ezekiel 36:26-27). It is contradictory to treat Acts 15:19-21 as containing an exhaustive list for mature believers in order to limit which laws Gentiles should follow while also treating it as being an non-exhaustive list by taking the position that there are obviously other laws that Gentiles should follow. It was not given as an exhaustive list for mature believers but as a list intended to avoid making things too difficult for new believers, which they excused with the expectation that Gentiles would continue to learn about how to obey Moses by hearing him taught every Sabbath in the synagogues.

In Ephesians 2:11-22, Gentiles were at one time separated from Christ, alienated from Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, and without hope and God in this world, all of which is in accordance with Gentiles at one time not being doers of the Torah, but through faith in Christ all of that is no longer true in that Gentiles are no longer strangers or aliens but are fellow citizens of Israel along with the saints in the household of God, all of which is in accordance with Gentiles becoming doers of the Torah.

In Psalms 40:8, it again supports obedience to the Torah.

In James 2:1-11, we we break any law and become a lawbreaker, then we need to repent and to return to obedience, which is what James was encouraging them to do.

"To fulfill the law" means "to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be" (NAS Greek Lexicon: pleroo), so Jesus fulfilled the Torah by teaching us how to correctly obey it.

In Galatians 3:10, Paul said that cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything in the Book of the Law, so we should continue to do everything in the Book of the Law.

In John 7:19, the fact that the people that Jesus was speaking to did not keep the Torah does not mean that no one has been able to keep it, but rather there are many people who did keep it such as with those in Joshua 22:1-3 or Luke 1:5-6.

God wanted His children to repent and to return to obedience to the Torah all throughout the Bible and even Jesus began his ministry with that Gospel message, so it would be absurd to interpret Galatians 5:4 as Paul warning against obeying God and saying that we will be cut off from Christ if we repent and believe the Gospel of Christ. In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey the Torah, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith, this is what it means to be under grace, and it would again be absurd to interpret this as him wanting God to be gracious to him by teaching him how to fall from grace, so you are not correctly identifying what Paul was speaking against in this passage.

In Romans 10:5-8, Paul referred to Deuteronomy 30 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to proclaiming that the Torah is not too difficult for us to keep and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing while disobedience brings death and a curse, so choose life!

Everything in the Torah is either in regard to how to love God or how to love our neighbor, which is why Jesus said in Matthew 22:36-40 that those are the greatest two commandments and that all of the other commandments hang on them, so the position that we should obey the greater two commandments is also the position that we should obey the rest of the Torah and love is not doing something that is not in accordance with the Torah.

You are blatantly using Isaiah 1:14 out of context. Do you also think that Isaiah 1:15 means that we shouldn't pray?

In Romans 7:21-8:7, Paul delighted in obeying the Torah and served it with his mind in contrast with the law of sin, which was working within his members to cause him not to do the good tha the wanted to do, which was waging war against the law of his mind, which he served with his flesh, which held him captive, and which the law of the Spirit has free us from. Moreover, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to the Torah. In Galatians 5:16-23, Paul contrasted the desires of the flesh with the desires of the Spirit and everything that he listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against the Torah while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. The desires of the flesh causing us not to do the good that we want to do is how Paul described his struggle with the law of sin, which the Law of the Spirit has freed us from, so that is the law that we are not under when we are led by the Spirit. The Torah was given by God and the Spirit is God, so it would be contradictory to interpret Galatians 5:18 as saying that we are not led by God when we are led by God. We need to die to the law of sin in order to be free to obey the Torah, not the other way around.

Christ lived in obedience to the Torah, so that is also the way that we live when he is living in us (Galatians 2:19-20). Grace and truth came through Jesus began he seent his ministry teaching us to obey the Torah by word and by example. In Matthew 11:28-30, Jesus was inviting people to come to him for rest and to learn from him, not inviting people to come to him for rest instead of learning from his example. Moreover, by Jesus saying that we would find rest for our souls, he was referencing Jeremiah 6:16-19, where the Torah is described as the good way where we will find rest for our souls, but they did not want to walk in it. In Hebrews 3:18-19, they did not enter into God's rest because of their disobedience/unbelief, and in Ezekiel 20:13, the greatly profaned God's Sabbaths, so you should not think that you can have the same disobedience to the Torah that prevented the Israelites from entering into God's rest and that it will go differently for you. In Hebrews 4:9-11, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, we should rest from our work as God rested from his, and we should be careful to enter into that rest so that no one might fall away by the same sort of disobedience, so we should continue to keep the Sabbath holy.

In Romans 14:1, the topic of the chapter is in regard to how to handle disputable matters of opinion in which God has given no command, not in regard to whether followers of God should follow God, so nothing in the chapter should be interpreted as speaking against following God. Paul did not mention the Sabbath anywhere in Romans 14 precisely because it had nothing to do with the topic tha the wars discussing.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-08T01:00:06-0600

⭐ THE VERSE: “At night it appears … like a man”

In 1 Enoch 78:17, the Ethiopic reads (in most manuscripts):

“At night it appears every twenty (days) like a man,
and at daytime like the sky because there is nothing else in it except its light.”

This sentence contains two ideas:

“At night it appears … like a man.”
During the day it looks like the sky (i.e., invisible).

So yes — the text does describe the moon as showing a human-like face.

⭐ WHAT DOES “LIKE A MAN” REFER TO?

Assuming the text is describing real lunar appearance:

✔ It refers to the common visual impression that the full moon shows a face.

Ancient cultures noticed:

The darker maria (lunar seas)
The brighter highlands
The arrangement looks like two eyes, a nose, and a mouth

This is so universal that:

Europeans called it the Man in the Moon
Jews sometimes said “the face of the moon”
Mesopotamians noted markings on the moon
Chinese saw a rabbit; others saw a man
Romans saw “the face of Selene”

Enoch 78:17 matches this universal observation.

⭐ WHY “EVERY TWENTY DAYS”?

The text says:

“every twenty (days) like a man”

This likely refers to the part of the lunar cycle where the moon’s illuminated portion resembles a face — this would be:

Waxing gibbous → full moon → waning gibbous

That segment lasts roughly 20 days (about two-thirds of the lunar month).

So the text is saying:

✔ During the part of the month when the moon is mostly lit, its markings resemble a human face.

⭐ IS THIS A LITERAL DESCRIPTION?

If we assume nothing in 1 Enoch is fictional, then:

✔ The text is reporting exactly what humans still see today —

the facial-like pattern on the lunar near side.

This is not symbolic.
This is observational astronomy.

stevevw · 2025-12-08T00:59:45-0600

BCP1928 said:
And now cience is trying to discovered what that event looked like from our side of things.

Yes thats how science began. To discover how Gods creation worked and was manifested to us.

But it seems the investigation to understand and describe Gods creation has become the creator itself. Gods creation is being used as the creator itself. The nature of Gods creation is itself being made the god so that God can be ommitted.

The strange thing is if God is the creator then this itself tells us that science cannot figure out what created Gods creation because, well its God and not His creation.

Science will have to admit it will never work this out and all its doing is describing Gods supernatural creation up to a certain point within that human made concept of methological naturalism.

stevevw · 2025-12-08T00:56:25-0600

timothyu said:
I would change that to the nations identity and culture that it grew from scratch

Well yes. Perhaps not from scratch. It drew from a range of ideas like Christianity and Enlighenment and the fundemental truth principles of Rule of Law and the freedoms we have come to know.

But it seems these ideas are clashing with other beliefs and ideas. All I know is that for any nation to survive it has to be united in some way. Thats usually belief and the culture and traditions that nation first identified as its unique way of being.

So I agree national identity is vital. It seems all sorts of different identities are fighting for truth and supremecy.

prodromos · 2025-12-08T00:51:28-0600

jonojim1337 said:
Just a couple of inconsistencies

You mean like flights between Sydney and Santiago being shorter than flights between Sydney and Los Angeles? Please explain how that works on your flat earth.

Yarddog · 2025-12-08T00:51:11-0600

BPPLEE said:
So they had no idea where they were.

I didn't say that.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-08T00:46:09-0600

I asked chat GPT to assume the 364 day solar year in 1 Enoch was real but also compare it to modern day astronomy here is what it says.

Here’s the same astronomy explanation, with all words kept, but with line breaks removed inside each point so that each point is on its own line.

Overall Picture of the Universe From your excerpt, the world is set up like this: there is a sky/firmament with “gates” and “windows” in the east and west; the sun, moon, and stars ride in chariots and travel through these gates; there are 12 gates for the sun in its disc, and 6 main gates in the east and 6 in the west where the sun rises and sets; the heavens and the world are arranged in four quarters: east, south, west, north; there are also gates for the winds (12 wind-gates), which affect weather, drought, rain, cold, etc. Everything is governed by fixed laws that Uriel explains to Enoch: “the law of the sun”, “the law of the moon”, “the leaders”, “the four extra days”, “the 364 days”, etc.

The Sun’s Motion and the 364-Day Year The sun’s motion is described with six gates in the east and six corresponding gates in the west. The sun rises through one of six eastern gates and sets through the corresponding western gate. It passes 30 or 31 “mornings” (days) in each gate before shifting to the next.

Sun Through the Gates (Yearly Cycle) In 72:6–27 the pattern is: first month, the sun rises in the fourth gate (east) and sets in the fourth gate (west) for 30 days; then moves to the fifth gate for 30 days; then to the sixth gate for 31 days; then it returns downward through the sixth, fifth, and fourth gates, then to the third, second, and first, with spans of 30 or 31 days each. Thus the sun moves up through the gates, reaches a maximum (longest day), then moves back down (shortest day), describing a yearly cycle of changing sun height/path.

Day and Night Divided into Parts The text divides a full day into 18 “parts” (units). For each phase it gives how many parts are day and how many are night. In the first month (sun in the fourth gate), day is 10 parts and night 8 parts (72:10). When the sun moves to the fifth gate, day is 11 parts and night 7 (72:12). In the sixth gate at maximum, day is 12 parts and night 6 (72:14), so day is double the night. Coming back down, in the sixth gate decreasing, day is 11, night 7 (72:16); in the fifth gate decreasing, day is 10, night 8 (72:18).

Equal Day and Night Later in the year, when the sun returns to the fourth gate, day is 9 parts and night 9 (72:20), so day and night are equal. Downward further, in the third gate, day is 8 and night 10 (72:22); in the second gate, day is 7 and night 11 (72:24); and in the first gate (deepest “winter” point), day is 6 parts and night 12 (72:26), so night is double the day.

Pattern of Day-Length Change The pattern is that as the sun goes from gate four to five to six, daytime increases and night decreases, and as it returns down from six to five to four to three to two to one, daytime decreases and night increases. The text thus gives a smooth, symmetric cycle of day length across the year.

Total Length of the Year: 364 Days In 72:32 the text says: “Daytime is equal to the night, and the year is exactly 364 days.” In 74:10–13 and 75:1–3 it adds: for five years of the sun all the days are 364 days each, so 5 × 364 = 1820; the sun and stars keep to this total and do not change the year by a single day. There are four special days (“four days that are not reckoned in the calculation of the year” – 75:1–3) connected to the leaders and the accuracy of the world. Thus the solar year in this system is 364 days, not 365.

Solar Arithmetic The text’s arithmetic is: in 3 years there are 1092 days (3 × 364); in 5 years there are 1820 days (5 × 364); in 8 years there are 2912 days (8 × 364). So the astronomy of the sun is that the sun cycles through gates, day length changes in 18-part fractions, and a full cycle is 364 days.

The Moon’s Light Compared to the Sun The moon is described as round like the sky, with “one-seventh the light of the sun” at full brightness (73:3, 78:4). The visible half of its surface is treated in fractions (fourteenths and sevenths). It receives its light from the sun “in measure” (73:2, 78:10–11).

Waxing and Waning Pattern In 78:6–15, when the moon first rises it is visible with half of a seventh part of its light; each day of waxing it adds more parts of light; by the 14th or 15th day it “completes its light” (full moon). Then it wanes: on the first day of waning it has 14 parts of light, on the second 13, on the third 12, then 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and on the fourteenth it is down to half a seventh; on the fifteenth day all the remaining light is exhausted and the disc is “empty without light.” Thus waxing is about 14–15 days to full, waning about 14–15 days to dark, and a full lunar cycle is about 30 days in this scheme.

Length of Lunar Months The text gives different statements about lunar months. In 73:4–8 and 74, the moon emerges on the thirtieth day, becomes the beginning of the month, and follows a pattern of emergence and setting with changing light fractions. In 78:9 it says that in some months the moon has 29 days and sometimes 28. In 78:15–16 it says the moon fashions three months of 30 days and three months of 29 days, and this is linked to the 177 days mentioned in 74:10–14 and 79:4, where in 177 days the moon completes a particular cycle.

Lunar-Year Arithmetic For the moon alone, the text says: in three years the days come to 1062; in five years it is 50 days fewer than the sun’s total for 5 years; in eight years the moon has 2832 days, lacking 80 days compared to the sun (78:14–16). Thus lunar months are around 29–30 days, the lunar total is shorter than the solar 364-day years, and over several years the moon falls behind.

Relation of Sun and Moon Despite the mismatch, 74:17 says the year is correctly completed in accord with their eternal positions and the positions of the sun. In 79:5 it says the moon falls behind the sun and stars five days in one period. After eight years, the moon lacks 80 days (78:16). From the text’s perspective, the sun and stars keep a strict 364-day year while the moon runs on its own month pattern and lags, but this lag is known and included in the scheme so that the year is still “correctly completed.”

Stars and Their Motion The stars travel in chariots like the sun and moon. Some stars “do not set” but revolve above certain gates (75:7–8). There are many windows at the boundaries of the sky through which stars and their heat emerge. The text portrays the stars as following fixed laws coordinated with the sun and moon.

Rays, Heat, and Gates In 75:4–7 Uriel shows twelve gates open in the disc of the sun’s chariot in the sky, from which the rays and heat of the sun come out onto the earth at their appointed times. Similarly, twelve gates in the sky on the boundaries of the earth allow the sun, moon, stars, and all works of the sky to emerge on the east and west, with many windows on left and right that emit heat in due season.

Winds and Weather The winds are described in chapter 76: at the boundaries of the earth Enoch sees twelve gates for all the winds; three in front (east), three in the west, three on the right (north), and three on the left (south). Through four of these emerge winds of blessing and peace, and through the other eight winds of punishment that bring devastation to earth and water. The text details the effects of each gate: some bring drought, heat, and destruction, others rain, fruitfulness, prosperity, dew, cold, mist, hail, snow, frost, or locusts.

Four Quarters of the Earth In 77:1–3 the earth is divided into four quarters: the first is called “eastern” because it is first; the second is “south” where the Most High and the blessed one will descend; the third, the west, is where heavenly luminaries diminish and go down; and the fourth, the north, is divided into three parts—for people to live in, for seas, deeps, forests, rivers, darkness and mist, and for the garden of righteousness.

Mountains and Rivers Enoch sees seven lofty mountains higher than all mountains on earth, from which snow comes and through which days, seasons, and years pass (77:4). He also sees seven great rivers, one from the west pouring into the great sea, two from the north pouring into the Erythrean Sea on the east, and four emerging on the northern side toward their sea, two into the Erythrean Sea and two into the great sea (with some saying into the wilderness), plus seven large islands—five on the land and two in the Erythrean Sea (77:5–8).

Names of Sun and Moon and Light Share In 78:1–4 the sun has names Aryares and Tomas; the moon has four names: Asanya, Abla, Banase, Era. These two great luminaries are round like the sky and of equal size. In the disc of the sun there are seven parts of light added beyond what the moon has; a specific amount of that light is placed in the moon until the seventh part passes over, explaining the difference in brightness while keeping a numerical relationship between their lights.

Summary in the Text Itself In 79:1–6 Enoch is told that the law of all the stars is completed; Uriel has shown him their law for each day, time, jurisdiction, year, month, and week, including the decrement of the moon that begins in the sixth gate and is completed in the first gate over 177 days (25 weeks and 2 days). The moon falls behind the sun and stars by five days in one period, and Uriel has shown the appearance and likeness of each luminary.

Short Overall Summary Using only your pasted text, the astronomy is that the sun moves through six eastern and six western gates over a 364-day year, changing day and night lengths in 18-part fractions; at one extreme day is double night, at the other night is double day, and at certain points they are equal; the moon receives light from the sun, waxes to full in about fifteen days and wanes in about fifteen days, with months of roughly 29–30 days and a total lunar cycle that lags behind the sun’s 364-day year; the stars, winds, gates, and quarters of the earth are arranged in a single cosmological system governed by fixed laws revealed by Uriel.

If the Book of Luminaries is describing real astronomy and the solar year is actually 364 days, then the “gates” can be understood as the sun’s horizon positions—specifically the observable zones along the eastern and western horizons where the sun rises and sets throughout the year.

The sun in reality does not rise in the same place every day but moves north and south along the horizon over the course of a year, and if this movement is divided into six equal sections in the east and six in the west, these create the twelve “gates” described in the text.

The six eastern gates correspond to six sunrise azimuth zones, and the six western gates correspond to six sunset azimuth zones, meaning the gates function as fixed horizon markers for the sun’s annual shifting path.

This interpretation fits the pattern of 30–30–31 days per gate as the sun moves from the spring equinox toward the summer solstice and then returns back toward the autumn equinox and winter solstice, mirroring a real astronomical cycle expressed in simplified segments.

The “gates” therefore represent horizon-based solar observation points used in many ancient cultures, where the solstice and equinox positions serve as anchors and the intermediate positions are evenly divided between them.

In a world with a true 364-day year, the gates would be precise solar positions spaced evenly so that each gate corresponds to a fixed interval of the sun’s annual movement, creating an internally perfect symmetrical cycle.

The four special days described in the text correspond to the solstices and equinoxes, the four astronomical turning points of the year when the sun’s movement changes direction or when day and night are equal.

These four days are “not reckoned” in the month-by-month counting because they function as boundary days that belong to the structure of the seasons rather than to the regular 30-day months of the calendar.

Each season consists of 91 days (30 + 30 + 30 + 1), forming four equal quarters of the 364-day year, with the uncounted day marking the seasonal transition at each solstice and equinox.

This structure matches later solar calendar traditions (such as Qumran’s) where the year must be divisible evenly into four perfect quarters, and where the solstice/equinox days are considered sacred, fixed anchor points rather than normal calendar days.

The symmetry of the gate-cycle—sun rising through gates 4, 5, 6 toward the longest day, then returning through 6, 5, 4 toward equal day and night, then continuing through 3, 2, 1 toward the shortest day—only works perfectly within a 364-day system with four exact seasonal quarters.

Therefore, if taken as describing real astronomy in a 364-day world, the gates represent fixed solar horizon positions, and the four special days represent the solstices and equinoxes that structure the year into four perfect seasons.

In the Book of the Luminaries the 364-day year is built from 360 regular days plus 4 extra days, but the text treats these two categories differently depending on what is being calculated.

When the text says “the four days are not to be reckoned” it means they are not counted as part of the 30-day months, because every month in the Enochic solar calendar is strictly 30 days, and allowing the 4 seasonal marker days into a month would break the perfect 30-day structure.

Therefore, the four days must be treated as separate, standalone seasonal boundary days that fall between months, not inside months—this is why the text says “they are not reckoned in the calculation of the year” when speaking about months: the 12 months are always 360 days exactly.

However, when the text later says that people make the mistake of not reckoning the four days, it is referring to the total length of the solar year, which must include those four days, because the true astronomical year in the Enochic system is 364 days and not 360.

Thus the warning is this: if someone counts only the months (12 × 30 = 360 days) and fails to add the four seasonal marker days (solstice and equinox days), they will produce a 360-day year, which the text insists is a false, mistaken year.

The text therefore distinguishes between reckoning for months (where the 4 days must be excluded) and reckoning for the whole year (where the 4 days must be included), and this double usage is exactly why the author warns that people err by not reckoning them—they forget to add them back in when computing the full year.

In short, the law is: Do NOT count the four days as part of the months, but DO count them when calculating the full year, because they are the cardinal days that anchor the seasons and complete the 364-day cycle.

People “make the mistake” by thinking that because the four days are not included in the months they should also not be included in the year, but the book insists this is wrong and that failing to reckon them ruins the accuracy of the calendar, its symmetry, the seasons, and the heavenly order. end of chat gpt part.

I have converted the 18 part day night cycle to 24 hours myself, and the solstices in Enoch are 18/6, 16/8 which are 50 degrees north or south of the equator. Enoch says God would come down south so he is writing north of Jerusalem in the pre flood world. The earths geography, topography, layout etc was different pre flood.

Richard T · 2025-12-08T00:42:52-0600

Christsfreeservant said:
I got on YouTube today, and I clicked on a link to a particular church’s Sunday gathering, and I was immediately struck in my spirit by the shirt the pastor was wearing in front of his congregation. The shirt read: “The Boys Are Back in Town!” And underneath that was, “Merry Christmas!” And the caricature was of Jesus Christ and Santa Claus together on a sleigh riding through the air. Santa was in front, and Jesus Christ was pictured further back and partially behind him. Both were laughing. And the caricature of Jesus had his arms out at the side, and Santa’s arms were lifted upward.

View attachment 374170And I was appalled! What blasphemy! It upset me to the core! How could a “man of God” who pastors a church congregation wear such a shirt? And then I recalled a writing the Lord had given me originally in 2018 titled “Christ’s Dismissal,” which I will share parts of here with some additional comments added. For it really helps to explain why I was so appalled at this pastor’s shirt he was wearing in front of his congregation as he prayed and as he preached his sermon to the people.

Christ’s Dismissal

Christmas, as it has come to be known, is largely considered to be a Christian celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, God the Son. But there is another (false) god that is celebrated on Christmas Day, and his name is Santa. So, what does the word “Christmas” literally mean? Well, the first part of the word is Christ, meaning the Anointed One, meaning Jesus Christ, the Son of God (See: Isaiah 61:1-3; Luke 4:18-19).

But, what about the word “mas”? What does that mean? Well, it is generally held that the word “mas” means “dismissal.” Yet, whether you agree with that or not, it doesn’t really matter, for I believe we shall see here, by the evidence itself, that indeed that is what is intended.

Satan and His Angels

From what I have been taught, and from what I understand, Satan used to be an angel in heaven, but he wanted to be God, and so he rebelled against God along with about a third of the angels, and so God cast them down to the earth (Isaiah 14:12-14; Luke 10:18; Hebrews 12:22; Revelation 9:1; Revelation 12:3-9).

“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’” Isaiah 14:12-14

Now, let’s think about Santa Claus for a moment. Where does he live? The North Pole (“on the farthest sides of the north”). How does he deliver gifts to children all over the world in a single night? He rides on a reindeer-driven sleigh up in the sky, on the heights, or “above the heights of the clouds.” And on the pastor’s shirt today, Santa was pictured in a sleigh above the stars of God in a position next to, but in front of (superior to) Jesus Christ.

And what attributes is this false god Santa given? He is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent, meaning he is present in all places at all times, he is all-knowing, all-seeing, and he is all-powerful. And what this means is that he has been given the attributes of Almighty God, because he, Santa (Satan), wants to be God. And the shirt pictured him in a position as though he is God, like God is Father, then Son, then Holy Spirit, in that order.

Don’t believe me? Well, Santa knows when every child across the world is sleeping and when they are awake. He knows when they have been good or bad, too. He is also able to be in multiple department stores all across the world, all at the same time, holding children on his lap, promising them presents they will most likely never receive. And he is able to magically deliver gifts to every child on the globe – that is the ones who have been good, so he says – and in a single night, too. So, he must be able to see all, know all, and be everywhere all at the same time, and be all-powerful, too.

The Christmas Deception

What is the central focus of the celebration of Christmas, in reality? Is it not the buying of gifts, many of which people do not need, and many of which those buying them cannot afford? And is it not about Christmas trees and decorations. And, then there is all the baking of cookies, and the shopping, and the Christmas cards, and the new clothes and shoes and hats, and all the parties and games, and for some, raunchy Christmas movies, too.

So, what does any of that have to do with Jesus? Well, they say that Jesus was given gifts when he was born and thus we give each other gifts when we celebrate his birthday. But does that even make sense? Some will say Jesus was our gift and thus we give each other gifts, but that doesn’t make sense, either. For the gift of Jesus is the gift of salvation from sin, so the gift we should give each other is the message of how we can all be forgiven our sins and be delivered from our bondage, and now walk in Christ’s holiness.

And, when we celebrate each other’s birthdays, who gets the gifts? The person with the birthday, right? So, if we are truly celebrating Jesus Christ, then should he not be the one to receive our gifts? And what gift does he want from us? He wants are all on the altar of sacrifice laid, living holy lives, pleasing to him, no longer conformed to the ways of this sinful world, but transformed in the renewing of our minds away from what is sinful to walking in Christ’s righteousness and holiness, in his power and strength.

Also, when we celebrate each other’s birthdays, does everyone in the room, besides the one with the birthday, all congregate together and give each other gifts, and then pass around pictures of what we looked like when we were helpless babies, while the one having the birthday gets ignored? But that is what people do, isn’t it, when they picture Jesus as a helpless baby in a manger, and they put a manger scene somewhere in their houses, and then they all gather together and give each other presents and play games and eat lots of food and watch movies, too? (If that is what you do.)

Ok, so let’s go back to Santa, for he plays a huge role in this deception, too. For, while Jesus Christ is pictured as a helpless baby in a manger doing nothing but just lying there, Santa comes on the scene in all his glory. And he promises to bring gifts to children and to ride through the sky on a sleigh and to deliver gifts across the globe on a single night. And he asks children across the world to write him letters (like prayers) requesting what they want from him. And, children, who have long awaited his return, are anxiously anticipating his soon arrival (like Jesus’ return one day).

So, who has the hearts of children on Christmas? Jesus Christ? Or Santa? And, who wanted to be God? And, who masquerades himself as an angel of light? Santa (Satan). And, what has the hearts of most adults during the Christmas holidays? Shopping, presents, parties, food, games, movies, etc.

Know the Truth

The whole point of Christmas, from the point of its creators, is to dismiss Jesus Christ in favor of Santa, a false god, who is truly Satan who wanted to be God. It is to dismiss Jesus Christ in favor of gifts, commercialism, greed, worldliness, and idolatry. Jesus is pictured as a helpless baby in a manger on purpose, while Santa, a false god, is given the attributes of Almighty God, and he steals the hearts of children away from God; away from Jesus Christ.

So, don’t listen to these thieves and robbers who want to pull us and our children away from pure devotion to Jesus Christ. Don’t give your hearts away to false gods and idolatry and commercialism and to ignoring Jesus.

If truly you want to celebrate Jesus Christ, then do it the way Jesus says. He says to remember him by remembering his blood that was shed on the cross for our sins, and by remembering his body which was given for us in his death so we can die to sin and live to righteousness. And this remembering of him is not a mere formality or a mere ritual we go through, either.

For, when we remember him and what he did for us, we examine our own hearts to make certain that we are worthy to partake in his blood and his body via confession of sin, in true repentance, and in committing our lives to our Lord and to his service. For, what he wants from us are not our festivals and our parties, which he largely hates, in reality. But what he wants is our all on the altar of sacrifice laid, our hearts, thus, under God’s control.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Oh, to be like Thee! blessèd Redeemer,
This is my constant longing and prayer;
Gladly I’ll forfeit all of earth’s treasures,
Jesus, Thy perfect likeness to wear.

Oh, to be like Thee! Oh, to be like Thee,
Blessèd Redeemer, pure as Thou art;
Come in Thy sweetness, come in Thy fullness;
Stamp Thine own image deep on my heart.

Lyrics by Thomas O. Chisholm, 1897
Music by W. J. Kirkpatrick, 1897

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That is a good word and I appreciate your willingness to share it. Santa is also perhaps the most famous lie since it was invented. One that can wreck a child's innocence creating mistrust and the start of cynicism.

Richard T · 2025-12-08T00:35:08-0600

Fantine said:
And in Surinam. according to Meet the Press, they were going to unload to a larger ship headed for Europe. So why are we fighting Europe's battles pretending that those drugs are going to us? Almost all of our drugs come through Mexico or Asia.

But how did they find the drugs? Did they send divers down to examine the wreckage? There were no survivors to have questioned.

In short, Venezuela has more oil than any other country in the world and Trump wants to feed his rapacious needs by more, more more.

Yes, we are the world's police. Hope you can read my latest blog on an alternate way to fight drug smuggling

keras · 2025-12-08T00:33:16-0600

Douggg said:
keras, why would a Christian nation made up of totally Christians (of your replacement theory) need two witnesses testifying to them in Jerusalem ? The entire nation (of your replacement theory) will all already believe in Jesus.

Another failure to properly read what the Prophets said.
Zechariah 14:1-2 tells of the conquest of the Christian nation of Beulah. Confirmed by Revelation 12 & 13, when Satan is thrown out of heaven - he will break the 7 year treaty and invade the Holy Land. Daniel 7:25 AND desecrate the Temple. Daniel 9:27
But those who kept faithful will be taken to a distant place of safety. Rev 12:14 and those who agreed with that treaty, Daniel 11:32 must remain. Revelation 12:17

It will be the conquerors of the Holy Land that the 2 Witnesses will preach to.
I would love to see them spewing fire to consume their enemies. Rev 11:5

Douggg said:
The great tribulation begins when the AoD statue image is set up on the temple mount. So if you are saying that the AoD statue image will be gone the day of Jesus's returns - then the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12 have to end then as well.

But the 1335 days, [1260 + 75] cannot begin before the mid point of the final 7 years.
Logically and scripturally, the extra 75 days must come after the glorious Return.

Douggg · 2025-12-08T00:22:30-0600

keras said:
I did not say it would be.
It will be gone, along with the armies at Armageddon, the 'beast and the FP and all who reject Christianity, when Jesus Returns.

The great tribulation begins when the AoD statue image is set up on the temple mount. So if you are saying that the AoD statue image will be gone the day of Jesus's returns - then the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12 have to end then as well.

Perpetual Student · 2025-12-08T00:19:13-0600

Servus said:
Sure.

I'm guessing this will lead to "then why do you..."

Indeed.
Why do you consider these killings acceptable? Why do you defend that your government abandons these principles?

jonojim1337 · 2025-12-08T00:16:14-0600

Just a couple of inconsistencies

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FaithT · 2025-12-07T23:52:16-0600

lismore said:
According to the newspaper article yes, 1200 reported cases in Glasgow.

Wow. That’s sickening. I read up on it. To make things worse, some of these cases (I don’t know about in Scotland) are done without anesthesia or numbing agents and with broken glass, sharp rocks, fingernails and more. The same “instruments” are re-used on numbers of girls without sterilization. Absolutely barbaric.

BPPLEE · 2025-12-07T23:36:48-0600

Yarddog said:
They clarified the number. They weren't missing . Paperwork was missing. Children didn't show up for hearings or never got notified of hearing.

So they had no idea where they were.

Yarddog · 2025-12-07T23:34:29-0600

BPPLEE said:
The Biden administration did not deny this number, instead they said that those children weren’t actually missing because no one was looking for them

They clarified the number. They weren't missing . Paperwork was missing. Children didn't show up for hearings or never got notified of hearing.

fhansen · 2025-12-07T23:33:58-0600

Mercy Shown said:
I appreciate your point about context, and I agree that Jesus is absolutely confronting hypocrisy in Matthew 7. But the principle He’s teaching goes even deeper than simply “don’t be a hypocrite.” Jesus is warning us about assuming a posture that belongs only to God—the posture of judge.
In the passage, He emphasizes that when we judge others, we end up being judged by the very same standard we apply.That’s not just about hypocrisy; that’s about the danger of stepping into God’s place and setting ourselves up as the ones who decide whose “speck” counts and how severe it is. When we do that, we inevitably judge people according to ourstandards, not God’s—and Jesus says that doing so invites judgment back on ourselves.

And yet we can, and must, be able to discern between right and wrong, justice and injustice.
“Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.” John 7:24

7thKeeper · 2025-12-07T23:32:30-0600

Oompa Loompa said:
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Here are the pictures of the supposed "fishing boats" that were blown up by the US Navy. Note all the bundles of what appears to be either cocaine or fentanyl. Perhaps all the "fishing gear" is underneath it? Now is the part where you dismiss the evidence and continue claiming there is none, even though I cannot provide it to you. Good day. For the record, if I do not reply, it isn't because I cannot provide evidence. It means that evidence is not worth presenting to ideologues who refuse to accept it.

Why do you lie to me sir?

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-12-07T23:30:29-0600

Servus said:
That's exactly his point. You don't really care where he's is from. You were just trying to gatekeep him out if the discussion.

Not at all. My comments don’t stop anyone from posting. You’re just coming to his defense because you agree with his rantings. If he wants dismiss people for their biases, I can do that too.

stevevw · 2025-12-07T23:30:14-0600

NxNW said:
So far nothing has been found.

What, the biggest fraud case in US history is nothing. This is really biased.

NxNW said:
Biden's fine.

Was he fine as president lol. Or are you going to continue the gas lighting.

NxNW said:
Name them, or admit you fabricated that claim.

Just did.

Heres some more

Where Is Democrats’ Transparency on Epstein?

As President Donald J. Trump said, “House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on

www.whitehouse.gov

‘Democrats are going to come to regret this’: After Epstein vote, Trump ready to attack
Trump has already instructed the Department of Justice to investigate links between Epstein and notable Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton, former Harvard President Larry Summers and Democratic megadonor Reid Hoffman.

Summers announced Monday that he would step back from public life after emails revealed that the former Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton and top adviser to President Barack Obama repeatedly sought advice from Epstein on romantically pursuing a woman he referred to as his mentee.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/trump-white-house-train-attacks-on-democrats-in-wake-of-epstein-vote-00657796

Like I said if they want to judge and throw stones then be prepared for the same level of scrutiny and judgement that will come upon themselves.

stevevw · 2025-12-07T23:26:52-0600

NxNW said:
You need a guilty verdict in a court of law before you can make such assumptions.

No you don't when it comes to terrorism. Did Biden and Obama get a guilty verdict in a court of law before they took action against terrorist. Did Isreal. If we waiterd for that then the terrorist win. They don't play by our rules in the first place.

NxNW said:
In this country, we don't kill the innocent, nor do we kill the guilty without a trial.

Yes you do when it comes to terror. They are not innocent. That you frame it that way shows your bias.

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⭐ WHAT DOES “LIKE A MAN” REFER TO?

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