I'm curious how RFK Jr's vendetta against corn syrup will affect the corn growers.

Say it aint so said:

This whole thing is being like Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones not liking being on the losing end of a score at Cowboy Stadium, so he fires the Cowboy Stadium scoreboard operator.

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That's a good analogy.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

But that is the liberal and Democrats, they just can’t help themselves when they criticize President Trump. They argue over every issue, every statement from President Trump, and every tweet, but ultimately accomplish nothing constructive—just a jumble of words.

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I am neither Democrat nor liberal but I can still recognize that "every issue, every statement from President Trump, and every tweet" is basically lie, exaggeration or pure fiction.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

I really don't know where you get the ideas that scriptures are eliminated by each others. That kind of argument isn't logical, though often used by various sectarian proponents to eliminate the O.T. laws for example or eliminating applicability of scriptures they don't like.

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Never said scripture eliminate other scripture. Do you know what hermeneutics is? Scripture interprets scripture. When you take verses in isolation you remove all context, author intent, and extended teachings among others. You guys are the ones that rely on doing exactly that.

Here is a primer on hermeneutics that might help you.

“Biblical hermeneutics is the method of interpreting Scripture so we can bridge the gaps between modern-day readers of the Bible, its original audiences, and God as its ultimate author.”



Do you follow the 613 laws of the old covenant?

BelieveItOarKnot said:

But generally speaking that methodology is simply false and misuse of scripture. ALL scripture is valid for everyone, per Jesus, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3

Jesus drew the lines between people an devils. It is your positions that can not differentiate the parties. But that's not unusual. Spiritually blinded positions can't pick up on it by Divine Decree. Mark 4:15

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I don’t know what you are saying here or even how to take this. Are you accusing me of being spiritually blinded?

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Again, you only see people in these equations.

No matter how many times the obvious is pointed out to you, you simply and automatically, in your own mind, see only PEOPLE. It's actually funny to me that you can't see it. But you simply can't, no matter what. Your mind will continue to divert to condemning your neighbors and missing the adversary.

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Hard to see what isn’t there.

J3thekingofking said:

Because not everyone is able to meet their partner.

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With God, you can find the one you belong with . . . not necessarily the one you would choose, but with God it will turn out so much more and better of more, than whatever you the way you are mature now could want and look for.

After you mature more with one another, then can be when you will do some real discovering of how love is done.

So, trust God about it

God is more "mature" and good and smart than we are, and He started marriage; and nowhere does He say to stop being married because we have had children and turned them loose, or have never had children. Either way, they need our example.

Like I understand you are saying, reproduction is not only physical; be we need to bring up children who know how to love. And in case we do not have our own, we can minister to others who do and their children.

"casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7)

So, we should not limit God to what we are capable and mature enough to know and understand now.

J3thekingofking said:

Sure you can argue the genesis mandate but that's old testament, they're enough unbelievers for you to convert, you need not your own bloodline to be Christian.

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This is true, in case I understand you correctly. it seems you are saying you can reproduce children of God, by reaching and ministering salvation to lost people - - - so they become our Father's adopted children in Jesus.

However . . . God is Father and Son and Holy Spirit > family. And He does still have families . . . where we can learn how to love and share as his family, and minister this to other families and unmarried people. Families, then, can be used by God to help us all learn how to love and share as family in Jesus. This could be part of why our Aposte Paul's qualifications for a "bishop" include how a "bishop" qualified is a family man > 1 Timothy 3:1-10.

J3thekingofking said:

Also there's also practical issue like can't meet with someone you're into. By that it's ok to stay single. It makes no sense for the sake of being married you marry someone you're not interested in.

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Guided by God > this works better than I look for someone who meets my requirements which I am now capable of having as a less mature person. We need to become able to love as God's family with various people of many interests . . . and not get bored and lonely in the process. Because God who is all-loving has adopted all of us.

And our Apostle Paul became as ones he was reaching to > 1 Corinthians 9:19-23. So, from this I see Paul did not pick and choose who had his interests, but he could adapt to each person, in order to communicate with the person. He would take an interest in anything that mattered to someone so he could communicate, and then bring the person to Jesus and Jesus Christ's interests

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

dems in con clothing.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is a democrat? Good luck peddling that story.

ThatDumbChicken said:

If I try to replace "everyone" with "the elect" in my Bible, it makes a smudge.

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Yep the elect ! Them only are commanded by God to repent, and caused to repent.

tampasteve said:

Lol, "innocent people". Not a one.

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Sure, I can see your point about the toddlers, but the babes in arms or still in the womb? All guilty?

Do you even see them as "people"?

Update:
Evidently, the teenager got drunk, said those scary things to my daughter, but fell asleep. My wife called her father, who checked in on her and said she was just sleeping. I don’t know what her family did after that. Hopefully, it was just a passing mood and the family did something. But still, we are worried about our daughters. It is hard when they are in another country that you can't readily get to.
Thanks for your prayers!

iluvatar5150 said:

Dang, you split those hairs so finely that I'm tempted to DM you about tuning up my kitchen knives.

If you rewind and listen to the portion of her speech that was in English (which I concede is a bit tough because there's still an interpreter talking over it), she repeatedly talked about her Guatemalan heritage and how she's a daughter of both countries.

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GUATEMALAN heritage. I have an American heritage. Ever hear the opening theme song to the show American Dad? You know the part where he sings about "the American race"? It's supposed to be a joke.

iluvatar5150 said:

So you didn't click any of the links in the OP? You're just riffing and ignorantly passing on the claims of a bunch of fear-mongers and race baiters? Nice.

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There was only one link in the OP. I clicked on it. There's no photo of her.

Spiritual Jew said:

Paul gave Pharaoh as an example of a vessel of wrath fitted for destruction. Pharaoh's heart was already hardened before God decided to harden it for His purposes. Do you think God didn't want Pharaoh to repent at any point in his life before that? There's no basis for thinking so. Yes, God can use someone like that for His purposes if He wants to, but that doesn't mean He never gave that person a chance to repent.

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The vessels of wrath fitted for destruction, God made them for that purpose, to dam them for their sins

prodromos said:

We don't do the same because we provide evidence.

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Who's we ? What evidence ? You talk as if you were there.

Spiritual Jew said:

LOL. You have no conscience about twisting scripture to make it say what you want it to say. All people everywhere does not equate to "all the elect everywhere". You should be ashamed of how you butcher scripture.

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Well duh, Gods elect are everywhere, not just in the nation of israel, and so everywhere they are God is commanding them to repent

Valletta said:

Why don't you give the media a call and tell them you dispute their translation?

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A lame retort to actual facts. @wing2000 was letting us know what the congresswoman actually said. Why take umbrage with that?

pastorwaris said:

Dear Brother,
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I appreciate your clarity and I believe we’re standing on much common ground when it comes to honoring God's moral principles.

You're right: no sincere Christian is arguing against the moral heart of the Law don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t commit adultery, don’t lie. We all affirm these because they’re written not just on stone, but now, through the Spirit, on our hearts (Hebrews 10:16).

But where the conversation gets more complex and where I believe grace and discernment are both essential is with the Sabbath and its place in the New Covenant.

Let’s be clear: the Sabbath wasn’t man-made. It was instituted by God at creation (Genesis 2:2–3), affirmed in the Ten Commandments, and it wasn’t revoked by Jesus. In fact, He said:



Now you mentioned that the issue is about a “small number” who emphasize Sabbath-keeping, particularly observing the seventh day (Saturday). I hear that. But the number isn’t the issue the principle is.
If we acknowledge the other nine commandments as still holding moral and spiritual weight, why isolate the fourth as optional?

We’re not talking about salvation through Sabbath. We’re talking about what it means to walk in joyful obedience, not to be saved but because we are saved.

You're also right to point out that some take this too far blurring the lines between grace and legalism, between Christian liberty and Mosaic ritualism. I don’t advocate for kosher diets or ritual law-keeping for Gentiles in the church (see Acts 15, Romans 14).

But the Sabbath isn't just "Jewish ritual." It predates Sinai. It’s rooted in creation and fulfilled not erased by Christ. Hebrews 4 speaks of a Sabbath-rest for the people of God, one that points to both a spiritual reality and an ongoing principle of rest and worship.

So the real question isn’t, “Are we saved by keeping the Sabbath?” The answer is no.
The question is, “Has God’s design for weekly rest and holy assembly ceased or has it been spiritually deepened in Christ?”

I believe the latter.
And whether someone keeps the Sabbath on Saturday or gathers on Sunday, what matters is that it’s done in Spirit and in truth (John 4:24) not from compulsion, but from conviction.

So let’s keep this discussion rooted in grace, free of division, and focused on Christ, the Lord of the Sabbath.

With love and respect,
Pastor Waris

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The Sabbath is for man's rest from work.

Jesus is our Sabbath, our rest from our own work to save and in Christ's work which saves to the uttermost.

Nonetheless, we do set aside a day for the assembly to meet in worship of God.

Spiritual Jew said:

Your responses keep getting weaker and weaker. You need to give up your false doctrine already and accept the truth. The natural man is referenced in 1 Corinthians 2:14 and the context there is that the natural man can't understand the deeper things of God. The meat or solid food of His word. That does not include the gospel, which is a very simple and straightforward message. Even the carnal Christians that Paul rebuked in 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 believed the gospel, so your understanding of what someone is capable of doing with their natural mind is flawed. If they hear the truth and their lost state is revealed to them, then they must decide whether to repent and believe or not and nowhere does it say that anyone is not able to do that.

Tell me how it can be that unregenerate men are said to have no excuse for suppressing the truth in unrighteousness while not glorifying God and being thankful to Him, but somehow have an excuse for not repenting and believing, according to your doctrine. That excuse is that they are simply unable to do so.

Why does God condemn people for rejecting Christ (John 3:18) if, as you believe, they were unable to do so? In your view God gets angry with people and condemns them for no reason.

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You cannot believe the Truth. Resisting Spiritual things is natural and normal for the natural man, for his heart is at enmity against God

Chesterton said:

You're missing the point.

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No, I don't think I am.

Chesterton said:

She didn't express pride in any ethnic or racial heritage, she expressed pride in the nationality of Guatemala.

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Dang, you split those hairs so finely that I'm tempted to DM you about tuning up my kitchen knives.

If you rewind and listen to the portion of her speech that was in English (which I concede is a bit tough because there's still an interpreter talking over it), she repeatedly talked about her Guatemalan heritage and how she's a daughter of both countries.

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I've never seen a photo of her, for all I know she could be of white European heritage.

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So you didn't click any of the links in the OP? You're just riffing and ignorantly passing on the claims of a bunch of fear-mongers and race baiters? Nice.

JosephZ said:

I gave some examples of what Israel could do earlier in the thread, but the immediate step Israel should take at this point is agreeing to a ceasefire and allowing humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza from all available sources. This should be followed by agreeing to a complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza in exchange for all of the remaining hostages being released. After this has been achieved, a more comprehensive plan on how to rebuild Gaza and address the grievances that are at the heart of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict can begin.

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In your post #12 you cited a jstor article that stated that 40% of terrorist group have been defeated through policing. Why would you not cite that as a possibility considering Israel’s plan to fully occupy Gaza? I would think that, since Hamas is the de facto government of Gaza, Israel would not want to give them the chance to consolidate power once more.

Lord, have mercy on your suffering servants!

RandyPNW said:

That's a bit deceptive, in my judgment. Was the Apostle John, who gave us the Revelation and the Millennium, an "apostle?" Of course he was! So, in my view, the Millennium is "apostolic teaching."

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Prophecy is not didactical, no matter who pens it.

ugh Lord have mercy!

St. Peter Damian, pray for us!

NxNW said:

I was responding to the claim that all energy came into existence in 4004 BC. That contradicts the evidence that the sun has been burning for billions of years.

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Ahhh, I see.

These rightwing rage manufacturers are pretty sad.

RileyG said:

If I understand correctly, the sun is a middle aged star, and one day, it will eventually die and earth as we know it, will cease to exist.

If I am wrong, someone can kindly correct me?

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I was responding to the claim that all energy came into existence in 4004 BC. That contradicts the evidence that the sun has been burning for billions of years.