mourningdove~ said:

Hey ...

I like some opera ...
Pavarotti ... The Three Tenors ... etc. ...
could you provide a link to the trio you are referring to?

(I tried to find them on YouTube, but have been unsuccessful so far. )

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Try spelling it iL Volo.

Valletta said:

Drag queen shows for children are seen by the radical left as exposing children to the real world, whereas many people see that as sexually grooming the kids.

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As someone who worked with "groomers", it's not grooming kids.

I've only seen one drag event at our library...it's not really my thing though I don't care about others doing it (in the same way I don't LARP or go to Ren faires)

What depravity did I see?
A man dressed garishly as a woman, reading a book about colours to some children.

I have always been very VERY curious. What are the PRECISE behaviours that are considered "grooming" in this context?

a) Just talking about it at all?
b) Normalizing it?
c) Encouraging it?
d) Are they raping or abusing kids at these events?
e) Are parents endangering their kids by going to these events? BEcause unfortunately, statistically libraries are way way way way way safer than churches.
So be careful...

Tropical Wilds said:

I mean, except for the justification that it didn’t happen, which is a pretty big and important one.

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Technically speaking then what the right’s DOJ is being accused of has not happened yet either. Just in time fallacies permeate this forum anyway.

Vambram said:

I don’t care about irrelevant Facebook posts she made. I care about her sworn testimony to investigators. Are you calling her a liar about what she told investigators?

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Fundamentally, the only statements of fact that she made (at least as reported by Fox in the article you linked) are that he started caring more about gay and trans rights, that he expressed a strong dislike of Kirk, and that he fought with his father over political disagreements. Her claim that this made him "left-leaning" is her opinion.

Vambram said:

I don’t care about irrelevant Facebook posts she made. I care about her sworn testimony to investigators. Are you calling her a liar about what she told investigators?

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How can she be called a liar? There would be no basis for it. People would need to know if her FB posts are congruent with her testimony.

But what CAN be stated, are facts.

Hentenza said:

I’m not defending today’s DOJ but merely pointing out the way the the old DOJ was heading. There is no justification.

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I mean, except for the justification that it didn’t happen, which is a pretty big and important one.

Hentenza said:

The Bostok vs Clayton County, Ga. decision opened the door for continued litigation regarding civil penalties for misgendering someone. Many companies use this decision to develop hr policies and arbitrarily fire people for this. Although it begins as a civil penalty there are arguments to add it to a hate enhancement for crimes therefore jumping into the criminal arena. Under a far liberal DOJ the chances increase dramatically that it would become criminal. See England as an example.

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Merrick Garland didn't go after Crocodile Dundee.

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Tropical Wilds said:

“They could have but didn’t, so now we going to” is an odd justification.

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I’m not defending today’s DOJ but merely pointing out the way the the old DOJ was heading. There is no justification.

Vambram said:

Mom of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin describes radical shift in last year: 'More pro-gay and trans rights'

Utah college student Tyler Robinson allegedly killed conservative commentator Charlie Kirk in a politically motivated shooting at Utah Valley University.

www.foxnews.com

Perhaps you understand Tyler Robinson better than his own mother and father???

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I never implied that. She said that they were conservatives but he had been "leaning left".
My politics shows that I am a left leaning Democrat. I am also totally in line with my Catholic Church's teaching.

Most conservatives that I have talked to on this forum claim that I am far left, showing those people are ignorant of political issues.

iluvatar5150 said:

Cribbed from another thread: Deputy AG threatens RICO investigations for people who organize to yell at Trump:

Deputy AG Blanche says 'organized' Trump protesters could face criminal investigations

Todd Blanche said people who noisily protest President Trump could face criminal investigations if their actions are tied to groups pushing violence.

www.usatoday.com

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Up next, the announcement of the administration’s strict enforcement of the “I’m rubber, you are glue” statute. Everybody will have to sit on the tarmac and think about they said until recess is over.

Vambram said:

Are you calling her a liar?

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I'm saying that there's likely a reason that she deleted his posts on social media.

rambot said:

Are you saying she didn't remove those things?

Ahh.....rhetorical games.


The funnest.

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I don’t care about irrelevant Facebook posts she made. I care about her sworn testimony to investigators. Are you calling her a liar about what she told investigators?

Valletta said:

Drag queen shows for children are seen by the radical left as exposing children to the real world, whereas many people see that as sexually grooming the kids.

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I took my kid to drag bingo because I wanted to expose him to fun, so joke’s on all y’all.

Cribbed from another thread: Deputy AG threatens RICO investigations for people who organize to yell at Trump:

Vambram said:

Are you calling her a liar?

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Are you saying she didn't remove those things?

Ahh.....rhetorical games.


The funnest.

Vambram said:

Leftist Teacher Showed Charlie Kirk Assassination to Students Over and Over Again, Told Them He Deserved it: Report

A public school teacher showed the assassination of Charlie Kirk multiple times to students as young as 10 years old.

www.westernjournal.com

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Yeah. I heard that story.

That's just awful...to show that to kids. Not okay. PRetty twisted really.

Hentenza said:

It was just a matter of time before they started heading that way.

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“They could have but didn’t, so now we going to” is an odd justification.

Aaron112 said:

"According to the biblical account, death entered the world as a direct consequence of Adam's disobedience to God's command not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God had warned Adam that on the day he ate from the forbidden tree, he would surely die.

"This death is understood to encompass both physical death, the cessation of life, and spiritual death, a separation from God. The immediate consequence of Adam's sin was that he and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, and the process of physical decay and death began for them and all humanity.

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That is man's revision of God's word. God says that the death will happen that day. Yet Adam lives on physically for many years thereafter. That being so, we know that the death God was speaking of was not a physical one.

"Process of physical decay and death began for them and all humanity" is a modern addition from people who were not satisfied with God's word as it is.

The Barbarian said:

She took down the facebook stuff about his love of guns and other things. So we're getting a revised version now. I'm thinking the stuff she was posting before he shot Kirk is more persuasive.

5.3K views · 12 reactions | Within just 10 hours after Tyler Robinson’s arrest, why did his mother immediately delete all of his social media accounts The truth behind this shocking move has left people stunned. #charliekirk #tylerrobinson #celebrit

Within just 10 hours after Tyler Robinson’s arrest, why did his mother immediately delete all of his social media accounts The truth behind this shocking move has left people stunned. #charliekirk...

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wat?

What 22yo lets their mother have their account logins?

The Barbarian said:

She took down the facebook stuff about his love of guns and other things. So we're getting a revised version now. I'm thinking the stuff she was posting before he shot Kirk is more persuasive.

5.3K views · 12 reactions | Within just 10 hours after Tyler Robinson’s arrest, why did his mother immediately delete all of his social media accounts The truth behind this shocking move has left people stunned. #charliekirk #tylerrobinson #celebrit

Within just 10 hours after Tyler Robinson’s arrest, why did his mother immediately delete all of his social media accounts The truth behind this shocking move has left people stunned. #charliekirk...

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Are you calling her a liar?

Larniavc said:

You just cut and pasted a bunch of opinions. You might as well just be honest and say “what I reckon is…….”. And pass that off as evidence.

Smh

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Those are not opinions but valid criticisms.

Smh

Vambram said:

Would you like to read what Tyler Robinson's mother said about him?

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She took down the facebook stuff about his love of guns and other things. So we're getting a revised version now. I'm thinking the stuff she was posting before he shot Kirk is more persuasive.

DaisyDay said:

The article is long and revealing of the mindset. Worth reading in its entirety.

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Regardless of one's stance on the ideology, it is clear that he has defined modern-day conservatism effectively. As a long-standing conservative, I find myself at odds with nearly all of his statements, which leads me to conclude that individuals like myself no longer have a place in today's Republican Party.

What is particularly surprising is that he and others who hold this viewpoint demonstrate a clear disregard for basic arithmetic, such as the fact that 2+2=4. In a previous discussion, I mentioned that by the 2032 presidential election, only 56% of the electorate is projected to be white. Is it reasonable to expect that focusing on restoring Irish-Scottish heritage would attract Hispanic or African American voters to support the GOP? Is it reasonable to expect that discussing the revival of 14th-century European culture would persuade Arab-American, Muslim-American, Asian-American, and young voters from biracial families to reconsider their stance and support the GOP?