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Trump administration must release billions in SNAP funds, judge says

I’m not the one who said it, love
But it is what you assumed .
Super judgy comment on your part that makes a lot of assumptions.

lol I’m not the one making up the backstories as you are. You need to stop judging others by your liberal agenda.
Maybe their car is paid off, so trading it in so that they can better cosplay as a broke person makes you feel better, but should people be making financial decisions on the performance of poverty you expect of them? Maybe it was gifted to them and they have no payments. Maybe you’re the one making the bad financial choice to pay interest on a loan on a depreciating asset and they’re the smart ones who’ve made better vehicle choices than you. Maybe you’re telling on yourself with your bad car buying habits and projecting it on them.
Another backstory? All of your stories here requires them to spend money they don’t have on things like insurance or charging or gas if it’s a gas powered car. Maintenance also comes to mind.
So your default is people are gaming the system, so those who aren’t should not be fed right along with them, because you saw a news article and determined too many of the cars were too nice.
Not really. You are the one inventing reasons. But I bet that there are quite a few that do game the system. You disagree with that?
Would you have felt better if the showed up like Dickens-era beggars, with rags and tin cans?
Lol Drama much?
30 seconds and I can see you’re wrong. So it seems like you’re not quite the know-it-all you purport to be on cars.

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It didn’t come up for me. However, the location of this is next to Rice University which is a super pricy neighborhood so your aha moment just went out the window.
So your fundamental belief is that people are bad. Anybody who you look at and judge to not look poor is a lying, system-gaming, car-stealing, crack dealer.
Nah. You make assumptions. My fundamental belief is that tax payer support of the needy needs to be thoroughly verified often and those that game the system should be prosecuted.
Again, you’re announcing your bias, not much else.
Nah. Imly based on your bar.
You doubt it. Why? Because looking at a car you can determine with a certainty better than the officials that examine their finances if they deserve benefits? Public transportation is not universal, and in a car pickup line for food, so you really think there is a bus, train, subway, or trolly that will wait in line so they can access it, then help them hoof it back to their doorstep?
There are buses and other public transportation that will take you there. Why would you assume that there isn’t? My example was from Houston which does have public transportation. Your assumption again.
Well, I can because having extensively worked with people in these situations, I’ve seen it. So far we’ve established your information base is “no they aren’t,” “they’re criminals, probably,” “they don’t look poor so they don’t need it,” and “yeah right.”
You have not established anything of the sort. And you don’t have a special gnosis about the needy. I congratulate you for working for them.
Before Teslas came out, they didn’t drive, actually. Or hold a job. And collected benefits. Then they got a Tesla, a job, and off benefits. Before that, they were one of those people collecting food pantry food while not looking suitably broke enough for you. Or they were taken by a family member, also in a car that didn’t look suitably poor enough for you.
Which makes it a very uncommon example. I’m glad they are able to function.
Then you have zero idea of what you’re talking about.
According to your limited knowledge.
You clearly don’t if you’ve not had to apply for any, nor had direct family members under your care who had to. You just know what you’re told from people who want you angry, not informed.
I did apply for them a long time ago but not lately as you structured your question.
No, actually, I’m using the benefit of the experiences I gained during my 780 hours working a homeless shelter last year, and the 646.27 hours I’ve spent this year. I’m relying on the knowledge I had when I helped in a food pantry when a major employer in our town suddenly closed. The situations I saw while handing out over 500 loaves of bread I made this year, the letters I’ve gotten in my mailbox from people who are in need who got the loaves. The stories I’ve heard pairing people in need with services via volunteer weekends at church.
Yours is more extensive than mine but I’ve also had quite a bit of experience working with the needy. I’ve seen both kinds and am sure that so have you.
Every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday after Nov first you can find me handing out bags of food to the temporary shelter residents who leave the shelter at 8a just to get back in line to get in that night.
I do that Saturday and Sunday. I’ve also been on several mission trips to South America, Africa, the Philippines, and Asia providing support, digging water wells, providing health care (along with Doctors Without Borders), teaching people about how to use their resources, etc. No Teslas there.
You yourself are closer to needing food stamps than being part of the 1%. I don’t forget that because I know most of us are 3 paychecks or less, one medical crisis, one disaster away from ruin. I don’t mistake my hard work and luck as me being better than those who have less than I do.
I don’t live paycheck to paycheck. I saved my money and are now retired. If an immigrant like me that came here with nothing can excel so can anyone. It’s all a matter of priorities.
Pointing out you’re making assumptions, being judgmental, and maligning a swath of Americans as cheaters, frauds, and criminals is not a personal attack. If you feel shame over hearing how your words sound, that’s a sign that you need to examine your views, not that people should not question you over viewpoints because it feels mean to answer for them.
You have no clue about what you are saying here. Demonizing me does not change the fact that there are people that game the system. You just refuse to accept that.
I find it suuuuuper interesting that as a deacon who helps in a food pantry that your malign the people who come to your door seeking help. I wonder if a print off of your comments landed on the front door with your name on it if they’d feel safe getting food, or that your space is a safe one, or that you’re in a position to have spiritual leadership. In any church I was in, somebody speaking like that would get them in serious trouble as it so flies so blatantly in the face of Biblical directives.
Again, you have no idea if what you are talking about. Your uber liberal ideas cloud your judgement and bias.
Physically worked? Not in a long time; I have Crohn’s disease and working a large kitchen line with others who rely on me for service is rough. I need bathroom access. I make my food at home or work and bring it where it needs to go.
My daughter has Crohns so I understand. I still work in door kitchens at least twice a month.
That all being said, I used the Instacart donation service last night to send $200 to an underserved pantry in my region, tipping the driver 30%. Last night, I added fresh-baked bread, crackers, cookies and box mixes that use only water to make to the little free library in my front yard. Today, only 2 loaves were left, so I am thawing more, and I added cinnamon rolls, homemade meal replacement cookies, two flats of water, and some crackers.

That’s on top of the donation (soup, bread) I took to the children’s hospital house I took last night. It’s my standing routine to run some meals up there using food I was able to score cheap, or food leftover from work that isn’t enough to use but can’t be donated as-is, or food close-to-date I can bake and send off. I also realized people at the ICU at my hospital are too far from food to leave and get it so I asked permission to leave a crockpot up there or, barring that, a fridge and microwave. Stay tuned.


Specifically? Thursday, from 1ish until 3ish. I made 12 chicken pot pies. Next time I’m back? Tuesday, probably 7am to do a quick dropoff. Then I’ll make and assemble meal kits (15) with breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks to hand out to the people in line waiting for it open. This week it’s focaccia BLTs, meal replacer cookies, oatmeal apple bars, sourdough cookies, muffins, and biscuits with cheese, two bottles of water, and one propel powder. Then I’ll be back Thursday. So far, I’m at 645ish hours. Hoping to beat what I did last year. I’m hoping to make 1k loaves of bread, but will probably cap off at 800. I’m at almost 3,000 cookies, though. I’ll clear 5k cookies this year. I don’t know how many muffins.

I also do rando pizza nights in my front yard, open to the public. I have the dough, sauce, cheese, and Ooni I use to bake it off, BYO toppings. I have one this week.

Does the Instacart count? If so, yesterday, $200. If not, $100 on the first to an organization I’m not allowed to mention. If that doesn’t count, $100 to our local MOW on 11/1. Those are just my standing first of the month donations. I make other donations as needed, but actually prefer to make/donate goods, and save my money for over-tipping service industry people and cash-gifting people during the holidays for services. Having worked in the service industry, I feel like it is more effective to give directly to people. Though for fun, I do hide gift cards in my little free library and front yard.

So, I feel comfortable saying that I do my part, and I do so without auditing if they are engaging in suitable performative poverty before getting it. Having been comfortable, broke, broker than that, ok, broke, comfortable, ok, and comfortable again, I know that not everybody who has need looks like they do. Frankly, some of them who need it most look better than those who look far worse.
I agree. You do your part and so do I. My only problem I have is your misunderstanding and misinterpretation of what I said and your quick demonization and judgement of me as a person. But, that seems to be par for the course by the uber liberal crowd.
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Trump administration must release billions in SNAP funds, judge says

When did Christians decide that denying food to the starving is the right thing to do?
When the choice is between help those in need or vilifying those in need I’m no longer surprised by what I read on this, a Christian website.
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Trump administration must release billions in SNAP funds, judge says

The pell grant is based on income which usually means the parents. The majority aren’t independent for financial aid purposes. And my comment wasn’t in reference to community colleges.

~bella
Not necessarily using the parent’s income since those over 21 don’t have to. It is also designed for the needy which is what we are talking about here.
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Did the Jews Introduce Morality to the Ancient World?

If one considers ethics to an an agreed upon set of rules for conduct such as the code of Hammurabi and other ancient laws, one might consider "morality" as going beyond conduct to motives for behavior such as the danger of "coveting". One might even ask if philosophies such as Stoicism were influenced by Jewish law.

There are elements of ethics in Jewish law as well as proscriptions for activities to remind them of the God they were supposed to remember. However, one can find elements of morality beyond don't steal because you might be punished to don't steal because it is wrong to hurt someone else.

One might even say that God used Israel to introduce morality such that people would start doing less harm to others. One might then see in Christianity and advance in that the idea of even doing good for others is introduced.

Interesting possibilities.
God's laws, including the Ten Commandments, were/are a reflection of His own character, love, justice, and holiness. By living according to these principles, Israel was meant to demonstrate God's way of life to surrounding nations.

A "Light to the Nations": Israel was chosen to be a "light to the Gentiles" and a "kingdom of priests," standing in contrast to other nations. Their obedience was intended to make them a "marvel of prosperity" before the world, showcasing the blessings of a life lived in cooperation with God's principles.

Objective Morality: is rooted in God's word and unchanging principles. The law given to Israel at Sinai was a clear, written expression of this eternal moral code.

A Conditional Covenant: The promises and blessings offered to Israel were conditional upon their faithfulness and obedience. When they failed to live by the law and disobeyed, they experienced curses instead of blessings, serving as an example of the consequences of forsaking God's moral standards.
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Do any of you follow MAGA theology?

The current US national debt is approximately
$38.11 trillion, according to recent U.S. Treasury data. This figure reflects an increase since the beginning of the year. So not doing so well on responsible debt management.

Especially because the US's monetary system is dependent on a series of international relationships to fund that debt. Relationships the current administration takes for granted, or even treats scornfully.
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Democrats clash with ICE over characterization of marijuana farm raid

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Newsweek that Border Patrol was making a targeted arrest when Figueroa's vehicle blocked agents and struck an unmarked government vehicle.
Great, yet another example! Keep 'em coming!

A 15-year-old United States citizen was detained by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents on Chicago’s East Side on Tuesday afternoon and held for five hours in a federal facility garage, according to the family's attorney.

Attorneys from the firm Romanucci & Blandin said he was held for approximately five hours without being formally charged, allowed to contact his family, or granted access to legal counsel.

The teenager was restrained with zip ties and handcuffs and transported to a federal law enforcement facility not affiliated with CBP or ICE, according to the law firm. They also said his mother was not informed of his whereabouts during the detention.

Family attorneys secured the boy's release yesterday evening. No charges have been filed against the boy, the firm said.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Criticism of Trump is probably illegal.

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I have to wonder whether he sits there at night watching a row of TVs of what late night hosts are saying about him.
Or doe he have a cache of administrators doing it for him and then briefing him.
His level of his narcissism is going to drive future DSM-5 publications.
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Is the Bible inerrant?

Romans 15:4 Paul wrote that “everything that was written in the past was written to teach us” and in 2 Timothy 3:16 that “all Scripture is God-breathed.” Everything and all are words that support the doctrine of plenary inspiration.

verbal plenary inspiration view, asserts that the Bible is inspired word-for-word and is completely true, while also acknowledging that God worked through the personalities of the human writers. This is different from dynamic inspiration, where only the general ideas or concepts are considered inspired, and the human author expresses them in their own words and style.

Support of the verbal plenary view ...

  • 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work".
    • This verse is central to the doctrine because the term "God-breathed" (
      theopneustost h e o p n e u s t o s
      ) implies that the very words of Scripture come directly from God.
  • 2 Peter 1:21: "For prophecy never had its origin in the human will. But people spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit".
    • This passage explains the "how" of inspiration, suggesting the Holy Spirit guided the human authors, using their personalities and abilities to write God's message.
  • Matthew 5:18: Jesus states, "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter, will by any means pass from the Law until all has been accomplished".
    • This emphasizes the permanence and accuracy of the smallest parts of God's Law, supporting the idea that every word matters and is reliable.
  • Matthew 24:35: "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away".
    • This reinforces the absolute and enduring truth of Jesus's words, extending the concept of divine inspiration and preservation to all of Scripture.
  • 1 Corinthians 2:13: Paul writes, "...we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual truths to spiritual people".
    • This passage is often used to show that the specific words, not just the ideas, were divinely provided by the Holy Spirit.

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US Hits Highest Layoffs Since COVID

I think the current slowdown in hiring is about uncertainty. It's not clear that AI is really going eliminate white collar jobs. In the past automation hasn't really had that kind of effect, though it's certainly eliminated some jobs. But maybe this one is different. It's also not clear that tariffs are going to kill the economy. But both are plausible enough to make reasonable people pause both hiring and investment.

In my opinion the biggest problem with Trump's tariffs isn't their existence but the fact that he keeps changing them. The US economy can adapt to lots of challenges, but it takes time. When the government keeps changing things, it's impossible to know how to adapt. So managers just pause.

My reading of Trump is that he's not going to stop changing things. He wants to be in the headlines. Maybe eventually the economy will be able to deal with even that, but not for a while.
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Trump administration must release billions in SNAP funds, judge says

I understand what you are saying however when you have a wife and kids to feed you have to act not just hope. I am a statistic in which I got my wife pregnant and married her when I was 19. We had another child a year or so later. At one point I was working three different jobs and attempting to finish college and during these times we sold possessions during the hard times and saved as much as we could during the better times, There was no eating out unless my parents or my wife’s parents invited us. After I lost one of my jobs we took food stamps for a few months until I landed another job. Life is sometimes tough but a person needs to rise to the challenge.
Do you realize the irony of saying “more people than you think are in fact gaming the system,” “life is tough but people need to rise to the challenge,” “When you have no money to eat you have to make it work. Been there done that,” and complaining about “random left leaning pro social behavior,” but then saying “I was on food stamps for a few months until I got a new job”? Like, it’s more than irony… It’s actual cognitive dissonance.

You are complaining about the people protecting a service you utilized, judging negatively those who get it when you yourself were one of them. So where does the line go from “you figure it out and make it work” to “well I need it, so give it to me” and “handout for a lazy person” to “I need it to get by so hand it over.”

So sometimes is better to take a loss to save on the additional costs.
So your solution to people who can’t pay for food to now is to spend more money they don’t have now so that an incremental savings means in several months or years you’re back to breaking even…?

You are not the financial wiz you think you are, my friend.
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President Trump Responds to Judge’s Ruling on SNAP Benefits

You are ignoring the fact that democrats have refused to pass the CR 13 times now ... why doesn't that bother you?
Yes it does bother me that the Dems voted 13 times to not pass the CR having to hold it hostage so people don't have their healthcare premiums rise, or lose it outright, along with in some cases in rural America their only hospital shuttered. Listen, Trump for the last 9 years has said he had a healthcare plan that is both better and cheaper than the ACA. All the GOP would have to do, since they control all of government, is bring that to the floor. If it is what Trump say it is, the Dems would be more than happy to pass it.

**Edit to add: "Trump signals he'll fund SNAP after federal judges ruled the administration must keep sending out benefits despite the shutdown"

I am glad he's signaling to do what the judge ruled. Because with him, sometimes judges rulings are just something to ignore.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

OK how do you pm lol. I am not good at this stuff. Like I said I still type with single fingers lol.

No really. If you notice I said "you are not me". It does not matter if you have read my posts through your eyes and mind. Its not me and you can never know this or focus on the things I do, or see the samne thing said the way I do. How do I know that your take on me is correct lol. You have not offerent anything.

Considering that most of these personal attacks come with demeaning and belittling language I think this is a sure sign that theres more to the opinion than just an univested opinion. If someone is that upset or morally outraged that they resort to personal attacks and moralising what is basically an investigation into ancient advanced knowledge.

Then this in itself is a disqualifyer regardless of what people say.

Thats how I know and am not assuming. Its a truth principle that if someone is distured to the point that they get personal that there is emotional reaction or motivation which will distort the perception and thinking. I am not talking about you.

Hum how do I know that your remark here is a casual dismissal itself of my point of view lol. I see some tar good people who may proposed alternative ideas as automatically being a whacko. This is a fact and virtually happened from page 1. The bias was already in the house before the door was open lol.

I know that some of the posts I was referring to actually has clear personal attacks. That you don't see it this way or missed it, or overlooked it through your version of me is part of the problem and tells me you don't really know.

Heres a experiment. You tell me what my position is. What my arguement is if you know me so well.

The difference is I have not made it personal jibes directly to anyone but rather reasoned my disagreement as to why. Or personalise it about character.

If I say I don't think you can know me as I know me and therefore do my thinking. I am making an arguement based on what I will consider logic, the facts or the experience I have. The important thing is I am not injecting into my replies and arguements personal jibes as little qualifiers. You may take my disagreement and arguement as personal. But its not.

See heres an example. You say 'routine thoughlessness'. I don't even know what that means. You have not explained or reasoned your conclusion or offered any evidence.

'Thoughlessness' seems extreme and vague and there may many ways to take this. One being it implies the person has not thought about things.. Now I may have thought about it and got it wrong. But I thought about it and anyone who knows me knows I think a lot lol. Its the qualification that the disagreement is due to some moral issue rather than any reasoned arguement.

Put it this way from the onset people made out everything said was whacko and psuedoscience. Not just at me but at those who propose such alternative ideas. So already its hostile territory lol. I don't mind this and I don't mind the banter and flack that people give when discussing these controversial ideas.

But there is always a line and because the issue attracts that kind of ridecule it can often slip into going overboard. I point it out occassionally when its constant and move on.
The responses you get are a reaction to your disrespectful behaviour to others not the subject matter.
If the subject matter was as innocuous as say knitting you would get the same criticisms.
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President Trump Responds to Judge’s Ruling on SNAP Benefits

but the courts cannot order that and again even if they could you cannot pull money out of your butts.
No money is being pulled out of any place the sun doesn't shine. It's money already set aside for occasions just as this.
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Democrats clash with ICE over characterization of marijuana farm raid

US Citizen Dragged From Car by Border Patrol in Chicago

Dayanne Figueroa, a U.S. citizen and paralegal, said an unmarked government vehicle struck her car at the 1600 block of West Hubbard Street in Chicago on the morning of October 10, while she was on her way to get coffee before going to work.

"I was in shock and terrified," Figueroa told Newsweek. "Instead of handling the situation as a routine traffic incident, the masked agents, armed in hands, forcibly removed me from my car without questions and without informing me that I was under arrest."

Footage obtained by Newsweek appears to show armed federal agents detaining Figueroa, dragging her by the legs to remove her from her vehicle. Some agents brandish guns, and bystanders can be heard shouting, "You hit her," as the situation unfolds.

"You guys are [doggone] scumbags, [doggone] [brand name authoritarians]. They hit her car. You guys hit her, and you [doggone] know it," the bystander is heard saying.

The paralegal said she was transported to multiple undisclosed locations and was not allowed to contact her family or legal counsel. She said she was never charged with a crime or informed of a legal reason for her detention.

"In fear of public safety and of law enforcement, officers attempted to remove her from the vehicle. She violently resisted, kicking two agents and causing injuries. This agitator was arrested for assault on a federal agent," [DHS spox] McLaughlin added.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Newsweek that Border Patrol was making a targeted arrest when Figueroa's vehicle blocked agents and struck an unmarked government vehicle.
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