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[Apple Sky]

I have looked up all the reference in the bible to "firmament" and not one mentions that it is either solid, or a dome.

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

 

[Apple Sky]

Did anyone ever tell you the Bible is not a scientific book?

Yes, you have many times.

 

[David Lamb]

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

But that verse doesn't say "firmament." the word translated "sky" means cloud, sky , heaven(s)or fine dust. The concordance of my bible software says:

"07834 shachaq [shakh -ak]

from 07833; n m; [BDB-1007a] [{See TWOT on 2367 @@ "2367a" }]

AV-cloud 11, sky 7, heaven 2, small dust 1; 21

1) dust, cloud
1a) fine dust
1b) (thin) cloud"

Indeed, elsewhere in Job it is translated "clouds," for example here:

“Which the clouds drop down And pour abundantly on man.” (Job 36:28 NKJV)

 

[prodromos]

So I'm lying am I ? Where have I lied ?

Hang on a minute, you are getting ahead of yourself.

Is "the truth is not in you" what you knew I was going to say or not?

And you don't have to be lying in order to not have truth in you. You can believe something which is actually false. You are only lying if you know it is false but claim it is otherwise.

 

[Hentenza]

Maybe a couple

Many more than just a couple

 

[Apple Sky]

Many more than just a couple

Most of the bases are shown to to be near the edges except for two which appear to be further in on your map, which BTW is totally fabricated.

 

[Hentenza]

Most of the bases are shown to to be near the edges except for two which appear to be further in on your map, which BTW is totally fabricated.

It is not fabricated at all. This is the actual map of Antarctica.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes, you have many times.

Why don't you listen, then?

 

[Strong in Him]

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

That says "sky" not "dome".
It also says it is AS molten glass - "as" and "like" are similes; comparisons.

That verse does not say "the sky IS a molten looking glass.".

 

[Apple Sky]

Why don't you listen, then?

Because I know God is the greatest scientist of them all.

 

[Apple Sky]

That says "sky" not "dome".

So the sky is strong as a molten looking glass ?

 

[Apple Sky]

It is not fabricated at all. This is the actual map of Antarctica.

Prove it.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because I know God is the greatest scientist of them all.

And yet he did not dictate a scientific account of how he made his creation.

 

[Strong in Him]

So the sky is strong as a molten looking glass ?

That wasn't the point of my quote.
David said that he had looked up all the verses with the word "firmament" in them, and none of them say that it is solid or a dome.
You replied:

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

The verse that you quoted - presumably to prove David wrong - does not have the word "firmament" but the word "sky".
So that's the first thing. The second is that it does not say that the sky/firmament IS molten glass.

 

[Hentenza]

Prove it.

I don’t have to. It is what it is. Is like you asking me to prove that we breathe oxygen. Your conspiracy theory mindset has taken you to a place where you doubt the obvious and the proven. If you get on a plane at 35000 feet you can see the curvature of the earth. There are thousands of commercial flights per day so there are hundreds of thousands of people that see the curvature of the earth daily. Have ever flown on an airplane?

Antartica is called the South Pole because it is in the south part of earth’s globe while the North Pole is on the north. This is fully and completely proven. The earth is round and this has been fully and completely proven. There is no conspiracy, only you feigning ignorance.

 

[Strong in Him]

Prove it.

No one can prove anything to you; you just refuse to accept anything that does not agree with your beliefs.

 

[David Lamb]

That says "sky" not "dome".
It also says it is AS molten glass - "as" and "like" are similes; comparisons.

That verse does not say "the sky IS a molten looking glass.".

I would add that molten glass is liquid, not solid anyway.

 

[Strong in Him]

I would add that molten glass is liquid, not solid anyway.

Good point, I missed that.

 

[Apple Sky]

The verse that you quoted - presumably to prove David wrong - does not have the word "firmament" but the word "sky".
So that's the first thing. The second is that it does not say that the sky/firmament IS molten glass.

The historical-grammatical meaning of raqiya' in Gen. 1:6–8 is very clearly a literally solid firmament.

 

[Strong in Him]

The historical-grammatical meaning of raqiya' in Gen. 1:6–8 is very clearly a literally solid firmament.

So that would mean that your verse from Job is wrong.

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

As David has said, "Molten" is liquid.

Molten metal or rock is in a liquid state because of great heat:

The sky is not molten rock.
How can a liquid sky be strong?

The verse from Job also suggests that "firmament" and "sky" are different things.
But I said this to you some time ago, and you told me I was wrong. Rockets cannot go very far into the sky, you said, in case they hit the firmament.