JSRG said:

That was a different case entirely than Trump v. Anderson, the one that was actually about the disqualification clause.

This is why people shouldn't be trusting the answers an AI spouts out at them, at least without verification. They get things wrong all the time and can give you opposite answers depending on how you phrase your question.

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I am speaking about Presidential immunity not Trump vs Anderson. The real reason why he is able to run again
and again!

MikaHeidi said:

I worked hard all my life and knew to do it right becoming a legal U.S. citizen

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What do you think of what Jesus taught against divorce and remarriage? (Matthew 19:9)

Romans 8 said:

I think if Jesus is coming he'd want us to know so we can prepare ourselves

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Yes. Jesus did that 2,000 years ago almost.

We have had nearly 2,000 years to warn people and prepare thus far Can't get more warning really.

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timewerx said:

I think maybe because men tend to be inflexible in social setups, whatever that is supposed to mean! It gets worse as you get older.

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Yeah, when it comes to social settings, if the man goes out with a woman to a social gathering, he'll tend to sit on the sidelines, while she gabs with her lady friends.

Sometimes, this is why you see women dancing with each other on the dance floors, dancing with each other, or with other single men, while their man watches from a bar stool.
He's just not into that stuff.

It also depends on where you live, if it's in a suburban or small town area, the men and women are pretty much attached at the hip, esp. if they have kids.

I recall a woman that was new in my town, that had a boyfriend, but she started saying to him, "I'm wanting to look for new friends in town" and he said, and no joke, "You don't need friends...you have me".

I will tell you a tiny bit story about like , 2 weeks ago when I was going home from a concert with family friend.
So the 3 of us were in a car, me, family friend, and my mom.
And family friend was like: " Don't you think we are in the edge of new war and our kids would need to go on the battle - front ? "
She was insinuating that war in Ukraine will escalate.
And my first comment was: " It's never been a better time to start reading a Bible. You should totally do that. ".
And she was like : " ??????????? "
And I was like: " Second coming of Jesus, doesn't ring a bell ? ".
She was again like: " ???????? ".
See Christians in my country aren't even aware of what second coming of Jesus is. And the funny thing is: they go to Church literally every Sunday for the last 30+ years.

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What should people expect from people who are producing children to either get a check, they are 14, 15, 16, etc.. years old, they are on drugs and trading sex for drugs or all of the above

Do you really think these people are worried or care how these children are going to grow up.

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When a parent is 14 years old, on drugs, and uncaring about the condition of their children the state usually gets involved and removes the children from the home.

What we don't do is decide we don't care about the conditions that American children grow up in.

I'n Titus we are told as older women to teach the younger women to love their husbands and their children. It's a responsibility to teach the youth how to love and care for their children appropriately. As a society we have the ability to teach kids, how to adult and impress upon them the reasons such things are important.

It is perhaps they don't prefer to live in squalor selling their bodies, if another alternative is shown and taught.

Nithavela said:

So you're saying that we should choose nuclear power because it might not be cheaper than many alternatives, but since the cheapest option would be to not use any electricity at all, cost should not be a factor?

Yeah, no, that makes no sense. Of course cost is a factor.

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Then shiver in the dark. That's the cheapest option of them all.

sjastro said:

Now that we have gone back to images of cuts in rocks here is a statue of Bahubali one of the largest free standing monolithic statues carved from granite and completed around 980 AD.

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(The fig leaf is a modern day construction not to upset conservative Christian sensitivities).

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I'm more impressed that they managed to cultivate such a plant with the perfect foil lol. They could have at least done it in stone to keep in line with the statue.

How do you know that even in 980AD that this culture had knowledge in their own way besides pounding and rubbing for years to achieve what they did.

Though big and impressive it pales into insignificance at some of the early Egyption feats. The pyramids dwaft this status for one and its not just one piece of work by 100s together as part of that one works.



That ain't granite but composite quartzite which is far harder to work with than granite. Its a stone calvers nightmare in stone shaping. The statue itself is 1,000 tons. But the block it comes from would have been around 1500 tons. They had to transport this up river some 500 miles from the quarry. We have problems moving 100 ton loads with heavy lifters and trucks.

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Now lets look at the technological development of iron and when it became hard enough to cut through or shape granite without the use of abrasives.

Period	Material/Technology	Hardness (Mohs)	Could cut granite w/out abrasives?	Notes
< 1200 BCE	Bronze	3–4	❌	Used abrasives (sand + copper saws)
1200–600 BCE	Wrought iron	4	❌	Slightly tougher, still too soft
600–400 BCE	Early carburized steel	5–6	⚠️ Limited	Could peck, not slice granite
18th century	Crucible steel	7–8	✅	First reliable granite chisels
20th century	Tungsten carbide / Diamond	9–10	✅✅	Industrial stonecutting era

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Using the 'logic' employed in this thread based on the fallacies of argument of personal incredulity and argument from ignorance,

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Do you have to add such personalised rhetoric lol. Just state the facts. This is a sure sign that someone is more invested than just the science and facts itself without even determining whether the facts are correct or not.

sjastro said:

even though the carvers of the statue had access to iron tools, the tools were not hard enough to cut directly or shape granite, the technology only became available in the 18th century with the development of crucible steel which is carbon hardened.

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Therefore your logic is even though the signatures clearly look like modern signatures they somehow hand crafted these signatures without any tech at all.

We are talking on par if not superior shaping and cutting of the most hard stones 5,000 plus years ago. Some in composit quartzite.

Not just that we can cut all the crap of these being made by pounding, grinding and rubbing by once again the signatures on the works like statues and other works such as the image of obeliskes with circular saw overcuts in the works themselves as part of creating them. In this case clear circular saw or some sort of saw capable of cutting the entire base of this statue into its thight and overcutting what is one of the hardest stones.



Like the vases we see the superior work of the earliest Egyptians compared to later works such as this precise leg and knee of a statue of pharoah Khufu compared to a later statue from Ramses II.



The Ramses statue does look like it was hand chiseled and roughly made. Theres little fine detail, quite a rough and unpolished finished.

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So therefore they must have used some unknown super technology like the predynastic Egyptians, in fact every cut mark in granite, a granite block or statue that was produced before the advent of crucible steel in the 18th century must have been produced using this super technology which then disappeared without a trace.

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Most of the precision works and I mean precision and have actual modern looking signatures in them are from the earliest dynasties or predynasty. There are some works that are amazing that come later but there is still question over their origin just like the vases. They may also date back to the earliest times.

Nevertheless this is not denying that there may have been some knowledge that was preserved in some limited way within later dynasties. But the vase majority and the best examples come from the earliest times. Which at the vesy least is coming from a time that is suppose to have less tech compared to later cultures who had the wheel, even sophisticated wheels and laths, logistics, and various metals and developed tooling.

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An obvious question which arises why did this super technology disappear only to be replaced by a major backwards step in technology in using crucible steel?!!

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Because the westernised idea of knowledge and tech being a slow and gradual evolution from simple to complex or simple to better techniques through the accumulation of knowledge is a forced idea about what knowledge is.

The whole point of this thread is that knowledge and tech may have peaked and fallen many times and was lost and restarted in different ways. That ancient cultures peaked in their own kind of knowledge different from today and then collapsed for various reasons. If there was a massive catastrophy that wiped out most of humankind today.

In 5 or 10,000 years we could say some of that knowledge was lost and we had to start again to gradually build up to a level of knowledge which may be different to how knowledge was understood in the past.

This may happen in smaller examples where localised knowledge peaks and falls and peaks and falls in different ways. Sometimes some still having that knowledge while others did not. Its a continually peaking and falling phenomena and not this fixed westernised materialistic and scientific idea of simple to complex.

sjastro said:

Here are the facts abrasive cutting went well into the 19th century using a sand and water slurry like the ancient Egyptians had used in combination with copper saws thousands of year earlier.

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Except the signatures are completely different. Copper saw of copper tude and sand abrasions don't cut. They abrase and thus a usually not sharp and thin or leave sharp planes in cuts like electric planers and routers.

This is the orthodoxy that is being challenged by the tests and the out of place signatures that clearly do not have the same witness marks as copper and abrasions.

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Works such as the statue of Bahubali are a testament to craftmanship not technology.

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Therefore there was no lathe, or wheel which produces good circularity. No one is saying there was no pounding and rubbing. Especially rubbing and polishing. They are the final stages. We are talking about the cutting and shaping of the hardest stones. I mean some of these cuts would need to be 50 foot long and 12 feel wide. Thats a massive copper saw.

Good old pounding and rubbing can explain even impossible feats that are well recognised that can only be achieved by tech. In some ways your doing what you protest the whackos. By appealing to such unreality as though humans can rub precision tools into existence without any help from tech.

RainySunflower said:

So you want my small 5 cents - mind your own business. Date settling is between Him and God.

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But it affects others.
Christians believe the date setters; give away money, sell houses and maybe pronounce judgement on those who mock or don't believe.
Then the date in question passes and people write Christianity off that little bit more - just another reason why they can't believe.

Today is Friday Oct 17th.

Apple Sky said:

We can take a guess can't we ?

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Guessing, or surmising, is not wrong.
Using it to further some wacky conspiracy theory, is.

Apple Sky said:

Tell me why is the tribe of Dan not mentioned in Revelation 7:5 ?

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No idea.
Why is the tribe of Manasseh mentioned when Jacob gave his brother, Ephraim, the greater blessing? Genesis 48:13-20
Ephraim and Manasseh were Jacob's grandsons, not his sons.

Jacob DID bless his son Dan, he said that he would provide justice for his people, Genesis 49:16. Why have you not addressed this?

iluvatar5150 said:

If his visa expired 10 years ago, how did he get work authorization using his real name?

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Simply put, he didn't.

It means the people who are doing the hiring in these locations are not looking for work authorization. In short, the hiring managers and higher ups don't care and are intentionally hiring illegals without work authorization.

Usually though, people get a job when they have valid work authorization and then stay in the position after their work authorization ends because employers aren't looking for updates, for example work authorization ends 6 months after getting the job, and the job doesn't check to see if the authorisation has been extended for the individual and a new work authorization given.

It's the employers legal responsibility to make sure a person is legally authorized to work, for the entire time an individual is working. Employers are not doing follow up, because they know when an individuals authorization ends when they hire that person as performimg a reverification on or before the expiration date is their legal responsibility.

So basically, everyone from police departments to school districts in blue states are breaking the law to employ illegals - knowingly.

The Liturgist said:

There literally is. I am aware of no language where Messiah, Christ or Annointed are written with out an i. For instance, Christos, Cristo, Moshiach… Indeed his first name Jesus*, in Hebrew Joshua and in Aramaic, Yeshua, means “I AM saves” referring to the meaning of YHWH

*Also often spelled with an I; indeed in antiquity there was no letter J. Thus Iesous in Greek, Isha and Isho in the Eastern and Western dialects of Classical Syriac Aramaic, and Isa in Arabic, and in Latin before the invention of the letters U and J, IESVS.

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Sorry you missed the point of that or felt the need to post your post. Take care

Servus said:

Vote left to save the planet.

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MAGA are the ones that abandoned science and therefore this whole conversation.

You made the Democrats the default for those who respect... reality.

Our ABC shows Trump scoffing at climate science for humour!

Back on track -

Here you can quite clearly see a guy in the background manipulating the space ship.

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jonojim1337 said:

I’m not perfect, but compared to how vile some people are, who profess themselves to be normal, have a job etc… I have no problem calling myself a saint.

And I wouldn’t know what to do here, and what the purpose of it all is, since they have the upper hand on all levels of society, unless I’m here to witness their demise. Like Jesus said, I’m going to down to see if their actions are as wicked as I have heard.

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But how you compare with other sinners is not the biblical basis for being a saint, being a Christian. It is whether or not you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Once you are saved, it should be your aim to live more and more like the Lord Jesus Christ, but even then, I would say it is wrong t compare yourself to other sinners, saying things like, "I'm not as vile as other people."

+1 on Joshua is reaching millions argument.

Christians in my country don't even know about Jesus's second coming, they don't even know what The Rapture is, and they don't even know what The End Times is. And I am not exaggerating .

At least some of them googled some stuff after Joshua's adventure.

So you want my small 5 cents - mind your own business. Date settling is between Him and God.

Bad people sleep without being aware of it and they are also reset without being aware of it and are brought back up into existing for a temporary time again when their program/person is needed again in other fallen worlds/planets/realities, and they cannot ever change that ever in any kind of world/planet/temporary existence/reality, which is why it is also said to always be happening or going on eternally, but is not so for those being cultivated/harvested always from there for heaven from those always, which is also eternally, as new people are always added/harvested from those for heaven always and continually always, but it's just not so for or with everybody always.

The ones getting to go to heaven always need to be afflicted first before they ever can always, which is why these kinds of places exist always, and is also why some people were needed that always just primarily do the afflcting always, but who never are meant for heaven ever always, but are reset and brought back up again without any remembrance or memory in other places that still need them to do some of the afflicting always, but who have no other kind of existence other than that forever always.

Everyone and everything's fates are already always known/decided for everybody and everything already from before any individual one of these (fallen) places are ever started or are ever made always, and none can ever change any of it/that or anything in these kinds of lower places always, but might only get any kind of true autonomy only in heaven maybe. etc.

God Bless.

Richard T said:

I like this minister/teacher. It is a dispensational view, with a pre-tribulation rapture. I admit that I have not read this book, but I have listened to the 20 or so lessons from this teacher (former pastor) on the end times. He also is one of the few who have written a book on simplified theology from a Pentecostal view. I believe his views mirror the Assembly of God in most things and particularly the end times. Here is the free google preview.

Understanding the End Times

A Last Days Play-by-Play for the ChristianCountless books have been written that link current events to end-time scriptures predicting the soon return of Jesus. But too often Christians have devalued the Bible message by predicting an Antichrist who dies, or by predicting dates that come and go...

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Very nice tip Richard, top-shelf! I'll be securing one! Hoping he offers a little more than others who, ''cautioned against obsessing over news headlines'', yet, advises us to correctly "look up" when they see the prophetic signs of the end times'', one critical and heavy watch? That old, rather amusing fine-line.

rjs330 said:

In America it’s a certain group who is predominantly involved in that percapita.

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You can’t really get more granular than the nationality of a people. They share a common culture, education, health benefits; they all grow up with the American dream.

Leaf473 said:

I asked duckassist the question, if you live in Barrow Alaska, should you keep the Sabbath from sunset to sunset

Here's its answer-
In Barrow, Alaska, where the sun does not set for extended periods during summer, it is suggested to observe the Sabbath from sunset to sunset based on the traditional understanding, but adjustments may be necessary due to the unique daylight conditions. Many people in such regions may choose to follow a local time schedule or consult religious authorities for guidance on how to observe the Sabbath appropriately.

if you live in Barrow Alaska, should you keep the Sabbath from sunset to sunset? at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

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Not a single scripture is quoted. That makes sense, though. I'm not aware of any scripture that says what to do.

God's ways aren't our ways, his thoughts aren't our thoughts

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Among Messianic Christians I have known in northern latitudes, they either keep the Sabbath from 6:00pm to 6:00pm or the times of sunset in Israel. Catholics often begin The Lord’s Day sometime between 5:00pm and 7:00pm on Saturday. I don’t agree with the Roman Catholics, but they believe that they are keeping the commandment, and it is commendable.

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In America its a certain group who is predominantly involved in that percapita.

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Poor people.

linux.poet said:

I find it interesting that the Orthodox and the Baptists agree on matters of the Law. I think sexuality is the principle Bible Church and Orthodox disagreement, as well as how churches are to be structured. Bible Churches believe in in church self-governance, which the Orthodox don't really believe in due to their system of bishops. Still, I imagine that if you get deep enough into our respective theologies, you'll find many areas of convergence. When Protestants rebelled against the Catholics, we were attempting to remove what we thought of as errors in Roman Catholic theology, and we were looking to preserve the truth of God's Word, which gave us some things in common with those who never made those errors in the first place.

Anyway, my pastor decided to take us through the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith as part of an adult Sunday School type thing before the service each week, but I am still relatively unskilled in theology. But this was an easy one. Anyone who has read their Bible cover to cover a number of times, attended Bible studies and church for a length of time would be able to write that post, if they understood the principles of hermeneutics. I've only been a Christian for 19 years, so in comparison to a friend of ours I'm still an amateur. If anything, I have more youthful passion to reign in; for I enjoy debates. It is one of my greater weaknesses, and yes, I will get into an argument about whatever it is .

Enjoying a debate too much, or worse yet, a particular debate partner, is only the road to pain in my 14 years on online forums. I would encourage you to take a deep breath in the power of Holy Spirit and step off that road.


I think you are getting confused between sin and the unpardonable sin. Sin is sin - it hasn't changed before or after Christ died. The unpardonable sin is quenching/blaspheming the Holy Spirit and not believing in Jesus' death and resurrection.




Do you have any Scripture to back up this position? I think sin is far greater than this limited list, and lying has to do with false witness (court of law) and repeated lying:



This verse set alone defeats the list in the previous quoted post. Where is murder on that list? That is clearly a sin. No, I'm going to maintain that sin is defined by the Decalogue as viewed through the teachings of Christ.

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you seem to be questioning for nothing much, what Jesus Christ brought was grace, and sin was what was before what Christ brought, and truth is what was not brought before, as there is no truth in death which was on all the world, so sin did change, the command to repent was given to all the world, and the preaching of the cross is what causes that repentance, as men can then believe in life and no longer death.

Sin was all there was, along, and binding, then eternal life came, which is Jesus Christ coming in the flesh which the antichrist spirit denies, so confession of this alone is the overcoming of sin, which could not be overcome before, so sin did change, it was defeated, it was replacing death by life, sin in its strength to weakness and gone, nailed to the cross of Christ, for us to also be risen away from sin up into heaven with Him.