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Trump’s immigration policies are putting the safety of American citizens at the forefront, where it should have been all along.

We get pretty high figures from the community that is less likely to commit crimes:
Well, let's see what the data say...
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According to your data source, illegal immigrants are about half as likely to commit crimes as are native-born Americans. That's still pretty impressive, although not as good as the original numbers you gave us.

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Trump to sign executive order directing AG to prosecute flag desecration

Actually, a 23 year old man was arrested in the UK for saying “we love bacon” outside a UK mosque several days ago. The entire country doesn’t hate it, but it offended someone.

Ridiculous
But apparently, I am the flaming liar. And no, I am not expecting an apology either.
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"Flaming" huh? "Flat out lie" huh? Perhaps I deserve an apology.
Yup. That was the young man I was referring to.

No one was flaming Islam. Period.
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Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

But wait, weren't they effective? After all, we've had the longest pause in homicides since 2024.
D.C.’s 12-day streak without a homicide is over, Not as rare as Trump says.

“In the last 11 days we’ve had no murders and that’s the first time that’s taken place in years actually, years,” Trump said Monday morning,

“No police officer working in the city can remember a time in their lives when there has been no murders,” Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said during the news conference Monday. “We’ve checked the records, no one can even find a record of being murder-free as long as we’ve been murder-free under President Trump’s leadership.”

D.C. went 16 days without a homicide earlier this year, from Feb. 24 to March 13.

Monday was not the first time Trump falsely claimed unprecedented stretches without killings in D.C., saying in a news conference Friday morning that last week marked “the first time in anybody’s memory that you haven’t had a murder in a week.”

Washington had other such seven-day stretches without homicides in April and May of this year, as well as three times last year. D.C. also experienced a respite from killings around this time last year, when no homicides occurred for nine days from Aug. 3 through Aug. 13.
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Can you imagine love in heaven?

I can imagine what that love is. But words don’t convey it very well. Just light.

You can imagine it? Emotionally?

Do you ever experience this love here on earth?

I did once have a dream that made me feel this type of love. Or at least I think it did. I was even able to emotionally recollect it for a time... until sadly it gradually drifted away and started feeling like the same old suffering/pain context love I always feel.
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Trump to sign executive order directing AG to prosecute flag desecration

And yet the left now acts like the english flag is forever claimed and tainted by racism and can no longer be used in any positive context.
What? I’m sure I’ve seen countless images of Jesus with the English flag and no one ever complained.

(I’m aware the English flag is NOT Union Jack)

I need to be enlightened.
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Trump to sign executive order directing AG to prosecute flag desecration

Thats absurd to even claim and you know it. Flaming another religion by seeking out victimhood is bad enough, but to flat out lie is a bit much.
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"Flaming" huh? "Flat out lie" huh? Perhaps I deserve an apology.
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Trump to sign executive order directing AG to prosecute flag desecration

The problem is that, in both the UK and Australia, overt patriotism just doesn't feel right. Nobody needs to fly the Union flag or the Australian flag to show that they have pride in their country. So when you see them being waved by a crowd of white people, generally men, then it signifies something else. Generally that 'we are British/Australian and anyone who doesn't look like us isn't'.

It's not that the flag has become a symbol of racism, it's simply the context in which it's used.
And yet the left now acts like the english flag is forever claimed and tainted by racism and can no longer be used in any positive context.
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'This is not stealing': Kentucky church defends members for not returning 'sexually perverse books' to library

Baptist church elder says books included depiction of 6-year-old performing sex act

The leadership of a Baptist church in Kentucky says they support members of their congregation who choose to “not return” certain library books that contain LGBT-related themes, but denies the movement is a “church directive.”

Reformation Church of Shelbyville (RCS), located about 30 miles east of Louisville, says it all began in June 2024, when a family attending the church discovered more than a dozen “sexually perverse books,” prompting a video response from RCS evangelist Tanner Cartwright warning about the books. Many of the titles listed, according to RCS, promoted transgenderism and homosexuality, including My Two Dads by Claudia Harrington, Julian is a Mermaid by Jessica Love, and Beyond Magenta: Transgender Teens Speak Out, by Susan Kuklin, which, said the church, includes a story of a 6-year-old child performing oral sex.

At the time, RCS asked for permission from the Shelby County Public Library to hold a “Pastor’s Story Hour” event, but that request was denied. However, the church said it “took that well, because the reason given would also make a Drag Queen Story Hour improbable. We should have known there was something more to it.“

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Shouldn’t that be banned for being child pornography? That’s disgusting! Ugh!
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Biden Appointed Judge Orders Release of ‘Teens’ Who Violently Attacked Ex-DOGE Employee Edward Coristine, AKA “Big Balls”

That is a ridiculous question that appears to be rhetorical, not real. If you seriously suppose I think that. then I question your ability to understand simple conversations - which is why I don't think you were serious.

Yes, this alleged incident is the excuse that Trump used for his governmental overreach. DC's crime problem is not a very high rate compared to some of the red cities or even compared to what it was during Trump's first term. How is a falling crime rate - 30 year low, iirc - an emergency? It isn't, it's an excuse.


Really? It seems like you asked the question to mock.



Remarkable recovery - no bruises, no scratches, no black eye at all! He is quite the healer!

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He must have the same self regenerative genes that miraculously healed Trump’s ear.
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Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals

Let's follow that line -

Link and show me where 100% of Republican voters voted not to have a voice or Representative in their state.
This has nothing to do with the point I made.

How do you even picture that working? A district made of of varying percentages of party affiliated voters, can only elect one representative. IF 60% percent vote one way, does that mean the other 40% are unrepresented? How would the 40% get represented, in your ideal scenario? If you could explain, I'd really appreciate it.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !
There is a reason why the fear of the Lord is coined as being the beginning of knowledge ... and is evident with Adam ... but the fact remains if there were no commandment there would have been no sin ... this is not a test of will, it is the revealing of the process found in the soul ... and the process of a seed in the analytical garden ...

God (it appears) chose one over another (as he did with light) of a sacrifice he never asked for, but then asks Cain the question why was his countenance fallen ...
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Can you imagine love in heaven?

Yes (Assuming you mean mental suffering.) and also detached from the physical aspects.

I just want to be clear. Is earthly love the only kind of love that can be felt by many Christians?

I have heard this term 'earthly love' in Christian circles before. Never gave the term much thought.

Are there any books or other resources that delve into the topic? I have always felt alone pondering this, besides finding a few others with similar thoughts online.
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Trump calls for Biden-appointed Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook to resign

Trump tells Fed’s Lisa Cook she’s fired; she says ‘he has no authority to do so’

Cook, in a statement Monday, said, “President Trump purported to fire me ‘for cause’ when no cause exists under the law, and he has no authority to do so.”

Cook, who was appointed by former President Joe Biden, has hired the high-profile attorney Abbe Lowell to represent her. She has not been charged with any crime.

Lowell, in a statement, said, “President Trump has taken to social media to once again ‘fire by tweet’ and once again his reflex to bully is flawed and his demands lack any proper process, basis or legal authority.”

Congress curbed the president’s authority to unilaterally fire a Fed governor in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which states that the president can only do so “for cause.”

While the law does not elaborate on what constitutes “cause,” it has historically been understood to mean malfeasance or dereliction of duty.
“‘Cause I want to!” isn’t (probably) the type of “cause”, intended by Congress.
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Why are all these leading Democrats suddenly facing mortgage fraud charges? Trump's retribution guy at the Federal Housing Finance Agency

Or maybe in terms of award, it is.
The fat lady hasn't sung.
All that lawfare served to guarantee him the White House.
You'd think they would figure that out. . .but their darkened hearts blind them.
The more they try to undo him, the more they drive him to success and themselves into the wilderness.
They may well remain there for a generation.
That is quite fantastical.
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Jewish Israel is a Misnomer

And do you have a verse that the true ISRAELITES OF God are the faithful CHRISTIAN Peoples ??
Those who respond to the Gospel, are the true Israelites:
The people who hear the voice of Jesus and do what Jesus says: are my people of Israel, My Overcomers, the Victorious ones, literally the Israelites of God. Revelation 3:20-21 Not ethnic Jewish Israel, but the genuine Christian Israel of God. Galatians 6:14-16

Jesus sent His Disciples-Apostles to the Gentiles; non-Jews, where the House of Israel was; scattered around the world. Not to Judah, as He preached to Judah and was rejected. Their mission was amazingly successful, resulting in the millions of Christians worldwide.
They didn’t disobey Jesus’ Command, by going to who the Jews referred to as Gentiles, because the people who heard the Gospel and who accepted it, plainly were Israelites, of the ‘dispersion’, as John 7:35 informs us.
The prophecy of Caiaphas, John 11:50-52, was that; Jesus would die for the nation, in order to gather together the scattered children of God.

Jesus calls us His sheep, because we hear Him. John 10:16 Just as Noah heard God, and just as Abraham heard God. God says that no other people have heard Him but those with the faith of Abraham. He tells us that these are the people He chose... because they heard Him. Deuteronomy 7:6-10

Ephesians 1:4-5 Before the foundation of the world, He chose those who would accept Christ to be His people, to be without blemish in His sight and full of love of Him and their fellow men. It was His good will and pleasure that we Christians are predestined to be adopted as God’s children through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour.

What else can it mean, but that every person who has understanding and who accepts the Gospel of Jesus, belongs to the true Israel? Grafted into the one Seed, Jesus; but an originally chosen, natural born Christian Israelite. John 15:16, 1 Peter 2:9-10
Since every nation in the world has been thoroughly genetically mixed, the sheep who hear Jesus' voice are from all the tribes, races, nations and languages. Revelation 7:9

It IS the way to know that we ARE the true Israel, because we DO hear Jesus and as faithful Christians, worship and obey Him.
John 10:1-18 tells us in very specific terms, the nature of the sheep and the shepherd. If we truly match that definition, mind and soul, we have the faith of Abraham in our being.

Isaiah 51:1-2 Listen to Me, all you who follow after righteousness, all who seek the Lord. Consider the Rock from which you are descended. Consider Abraham, your father and Sarah, your mother, when I called him, he was but one; I Blessed him and he is now many.
This is a direct reference to Christians, the true Israelite sons of God. Romans 9:24-26

The other aspect to this doctrine; is how some people are made for different purposes. Call it predestination, or God the Potter making some ‘vessels’ to be kept and some to be discarded:
Romans 9:21-22 Surely the Potter can do what He likes with the clay? Is He not free to make two vessels out of the same lump, one to be treasured and one for common use?
But if it is indeed God’s purpose to display His retribution and to make His power known, it is that with great patience, He has tolerated vessels that are made for destruction?
Jeremiah 18:1-12

These are Bible truths, therefore it is beholden for us, who have had heard the ‘call of the Lord’ in our hearts, to be very sure to stand strong in our faith at all times and look forward to the great Day when Jesus comes, bringing our rewards with Him. Matthew 16:27
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