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Clare73 · Oct 16, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Its faith in Jesus, we receive the promises of Abraham.

It is the same faith as Abraham (in Jesus, the promise, Ge 15:5-6) by which we receive the promises of Abraham.

SabbathBlessings said:
We are adopted into the family through faith in Jesus .

Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

God's Israel is all those of the faith of Abraham (Ge 15:6) in the promise (Ge 15:5, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).

jacks · Oct 16, 2025

I wonder if it will include Owen Barfield?

JosephZ · Oct 16, 2025

d taylor said:
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Interesting information thanks , i will say though Coahoma County, MS black population is not 65%, but more close to 80%

You're welcome an thanks for pointing out my mistake. I was able to find sources that put the Black population at 75.9%, so I edited my post to show the correct number.

RDKirk · Oct 16, 2025

The Liturgist said:
The Roman Catholic doctrine of General Revelation is quite correct, in that it is possible, as is shown in Acts by the Athenian worshippers of the Invisible God at the Aereopagus. However, they still required the conversion of St. Paul, which was itself facilitated by an act of Divine Grace, the Conversion of St. Paul on the Road to Damascus, to come to have salvific faith in our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ, and thus receive the sacred mysteries of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (which at that time had not suffered any enduring schisms, so there is no need to debate as to its precise identity or configuration).

This reality is expressed by another Roman Catholic doctrine, that of Invincible Ignorance, which states that only those persons who through no fault of their own are not reached by evangelists, for example, uncontacted Amazonian tribes.

Now I should state as an Orthodox Christian my church does not formally recognize either of these doctrines as being accurate, but it also does not reject them, so they can exist in the realm of theologoumemna, in that there is Scriptural support for both of them.

see my #11

LoricaLady · Oct 16, 2025

Please pray for our persecuted brothers and sisters. They need protection from prison, freedom from any imprisonment, healing from any trauma. And healing and provision for left behind family members.

Please pray for them for protection from their enemies and discernment about who to trust. And provision in every way with protection and strengthening of their faith.

“For where 2 or 3 are gathered in My Name, there am I in
the midst of them.”

fhansen · Oct 16, 2025

Hentenza said:
Your arrogance is showing and you had to take it there. Fine. That’s the BIG problem of equaling Holy Scriptures to the traditions of your church. And you know what Jesus said about “for the sake of your traditions” right? The group had to come along in the 16th century to protest your church’s doctrine errors and other problems. Most of the errors persist to this day.

Arrogance??!! It was the whole church, the one Arius questioned as you are now so that the doctrines on the nature of Christ and the Trinity might be hammered out by that same church in response to him. "Tradition" isn't always a bad word such as where it's used in 2 Thess 2:15 where the tradition originates with God. That group came up with their own traditions, of men, and did nothoing but muddy the waters and confuse the understanding of justification.

The problem arises when the historical understanding gets summarily tossed out. At least the controversy served to stir up another council, however, where the concerns and errors were addressed and corrected and the true understanding further clarifed.

Clare73 · Oct 16, 2025

fhansen said:
No, you're assuming that all revelation had to be recorded in written form.

No. . .but any "revelation" not in agreement with what is recorded in the written form is not from God, for God does not contradict himself.

So the written form becomes the measure of the non-written form.

fhansen said:
Then we're faced with a situation here where the whole church, the early church, believed and practiced in a particular way, and then did so for the centuries following. Then a group comes along, some 1850 years after the fact, and says,, 'We got it right. The church had it wrong all this time, even though the group was nowhere near at the time that it all transpired. The church wears parts of revelation in its life, it's lived experience..

And what anything "wears in its life," as distinct from what is "written down," is subject to gradual modification into error when measured by what is "written down."
There is only one measure for all revelation; i.e., what is written down.
Anything else is just license to err.

o_mlly · Oct 16, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
in a different thread. Why should I remember what you wrote elsewhere yesterday?

? The post was a direct reply to you.

Hans Blaster said:
It was a PREDICTION about what I thought would happen ...

And you were wrong.

Hans Blaster said:
We could resume the moral discussion if you like, but I am not going to discuss the nature of "truth"

OK.

o_mlly said:
Do you desire to know the truth about the physical world?

Change that to, "Do you desire to know the reality of the physical world?"

AetheriusLamia · Oct 16, 2025

Jerry N. said:
I couldn’t remember who said the following quote, so I asked AI. Here is the answer:

“The quote "There is no faith without doubt" is attributed to Rabbi Jonathan Sacks. He was a prominent British Rabbi, theologian, and author, known for his insightful discussions on faith, doubt, and ethics. Rabbi Sacks emphasized that doubt can play a crucial role in deepening one’s faith and understanding.”

Respectfully, it may not be prudent to assume as truth the maxims of one who rejects Jesus as Messiah.

It's also important to define 'faith' and 'doubt' so we can be clear and come to agreement on the same things.

d taylor · Oct 16, 2025

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homicides greenwood ms at DuckDuckGo

Hentenza · Oct 16, 2025

expos4ever said:
Who, exactly, has ever espoused open borders!

It’s a progressive agenda. I posted an article about that a few posts back.

Strong in Him · Oct 16, 2025

@Apple Sky , what are you saying, then?

I told you, and emphasized, that it wasn't just one man who walked on the moon, but 12.
I said that it wouldn't surprise me if some conspiracy theorist somewhere tried to make a connection between the 12 men who walked on the moon, the 12 tribes of Israel and 12 disciples. That's what CTs do - look for patterns and say there is something spooky/sinister about them.

You then proved my point by saying that it was a coincidence that NASA had made it so that 12 men walked on the moon.
When asked, you appeared to be saying that this is because Satan is behind NASA and imitates everything that God does.

If you are saying that Satan/NASA deliberately sent 12 men to the moon to imitate God choosing 12 disciples, you are saying that 12 men went to, and walked on, the moon.
If it never happened, there is nothing for Satan/NASA to imitate, so that was a ridiculous comment.

Say it aint so · Oct 16, 2025

camille70 said:
34:30 mark to about 41 min mark

Rumor: Families of cabinet members are purchasing tarriff claims from companies who have paid them in anticipation they will be overturned.

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They are parasites.

Hentenza · Oct 16, 2025

Colo Millz said:
Why?

What's the difference between reading a commentator and listening to a sermon?

Exactly.

Colo Millz said:
I confess I also cringe when listening to sermons, I am a fan of the three minute homily.

Good for you.

Maria Billingsley · Oct 16, 2025

Delvianna said:
But see I dont see it as derailing. How is a woman supposed to, and according to you,

If the change is leadership based and so far your only answer is to become a leader themselves. So my question is very much relevant. If a woman has these issues, what do they do? I can only guess based off your last reply that you mean they say nothing? Because that's not scriptural when we are all called to hold each other accountable.

Go to the Pastor's wife and to the elders wives. They can certainly pass the message.

Other than that, I don't know. I didn't write the proper rules of engagement in a congregational setting, Paul did, for that matter, Jesus Christ of Nazareth didn't either.
Thanks for engaging !

Hentenza · Oct 16, 2025

fhansen said:
No, you're assuming that all revelation had to be recorded in written form.

Then we're faced with a situation here where the whole church, the early church, believed and practiced in a particular way, and then did so for the centuries following. Then a group comes along, some 1850 years after the fact, and says,, 'We got it right. The church had it wrong all this time, even though the group was nowhere near at the time that it all transpired. The church wears parts of revelation in its life, it's lived experience..

Your arrogance is showing and you had to take it there. Fine. That’s the BIG problem of equaling Holy Scriptures to the traditions of your church. And you know what Jesus said about “for the sake of your traditions” right? The group had to come along in the 16th century to protest your church’s doctrine errors and other problems. Most of the errors persist to this day.

d taylor · Oct 16, 2025

JosephZ said:
The gun homicide rate in Holmes County, MS, is 102.8 per 100,000, with a Black population of 80%. Poverty rate 38.0% (26.5% above the national average)

The gun homicide rate in Coahoma County, MS, is 74.6 per 100,000, with a Black population of 65%. Poverty rate 36.3% (24.8% above the national average)

The gun homicide rate in Leflore County, MS, is 66.9 per 100,000, with a Black population of 74.5%. Poverty rate 34.8% (22.9% above the national average)

There are no counties in California with a majority Black population, but there are a few small communities in LA County that are.

View Park-Windsor Hills: 83.8%

Ladera Heights: 72.4%

Leimert Park: 70%

Baldwin Hills: 65%

The gun homicide rate in these communities is 0. These communities are upper middle class to affluent, so they do not have the same issues as Mississippi when it comes to poverty and lack of opportunity.

The four cities in California that come the closest to the Mississippi Delta region as far as poverty, high minority populations (greater than 95% Black and Hispanic), and gang violence are Compton, Watts, Hawthorne, and Inglewood. The combined gun homicide rate in these four cities is 19.3 per 100,000. Poverty rate 16% (5.5% above the national average)

A better comparison would be cities and counties in the state of Maryland, which has similar gun laws to those found in California.

Prince George's County, Maryland, has a Black population of 59% and a gun homicide rate of 16.7 per 100,000. Poverty rate 10.3% (1.2% below the national average)

Baltimore City has a Black population of 60% and a gun homicide rate of 36.3 per 100,000. Poverty rate 20.2% (8.7% above the national average)

The image below is hard to read, but each of the blue dots represents gun laws and safety measures taken in the states of Maryland, California, and Mississippi.

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Conclusion: High poverty rates (Not "Blacks") + Weak gun laws = High rates of gun violence

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Interesting information thanks , i will say though Coahoma County, MS black population is not 65%, but more close to 80%

Hentenza · Oct 16, 2025

Yarddog said:
Facts aren't LALA land. You are lost because you believe lies.

Bye

LoricaLady · Oct 16, 2025

Oct. 16, 2025 | Burkina Faso
Christians Persevere Amid Frequent Attacks
[11] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Christians in Burkina Faso.

Islamist militias attacked three different villages in eastern Burkina Faso on and shortly after July 19, 2025. "Eleven Christians have been killed, and others have been taken hostage or are missing," said a front-line worker. He added that many Christians in the area have fled their homes, and one pastor was evacuated to another city to receive medical care after suffering a serious injury. The incidents occurred near the Mali border, where numerous jihadi groups are based. "Please pray for the church in Burkina Faso as they continue to face attacks on nearly a weekly basis," said the front-line worker. Read More.
Oct. 16, 2025 | Nicaragua
Pastor, Seven Other Christians Disappear After Arrest
[9] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Nicaraguan Christians.

In a series of raids on July 17, 2025, Nicaraguan national police took Pastor Rudy Palacios Vargas and seven other Christians into custody without warning or warrants. The families of those detained have been unable to locate their loved ones. One family member reported that they were being charged with treason and "undermining national integrity." Vargas had been forced into exile in 2018 after he and his congregation brought food and medicine and offered prayer to students protesting the authoritarian Marxist regime of President Daniel Ortega. Read More.
Oct. 16, 2025 | Arabian Peninsula
Christian Man Struggles After Torture
[9] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Jonas.

A Christian man now suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) after being tortured for his faith. Jonas left Islam and came to faith in Christ many years ago. When someone discovered his conversion and reported it to authorities, Jonas was immediately arrested, imprisoned and tortured repeatedly. When he was released, Jonas fled from the region as soon as he was able to and now lives in Europe. Read More.

d taylor · Oct 16, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
Holy jeez. That's more than double the rate of any of the cities on this list.

Why aren't we sending the NG to your town?

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Why would Trump want to send anyone here, he would get no attention for it.

Yarddog · Oct 16, 2025

Hentenza said:
That’s ok you can continue to live in Lala land.

Facts aren't LALA land. You are lost because you believe lies.

Clare73 · Oct 16, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Exo 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the LORD: "Israel is My son, My firstborn.
Hos 11:1 "When Israel was a child, I loved him, And out of Egypt I called My son.
Israel is God's son, His firstborn. If Israel was literal it would mean Adam. Obviously its not literal as it represents God's people.
Who is the true Israel?
Mat 2:14 When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt,
Mat 2:15 and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, "OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON."
Christ is the true fulfillment of Israel.

Christ is the Vine, we are the branches and Gentiles are grafted into Christ or Israel (God's people) through faith

Gal 3:7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.
Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Rom 11:11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles
Rom 11:12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
Rom 11:14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
Rom 11:11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
Rom 11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in."
Rom 11:20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
Rom 11:21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.

The only way we are part of God's Israel is through faith. Tuning out all of the noise of the world and following what God of the Bible says.

God's Israel is all those of the faith of Abraham (Ge 15:6) in the promise (Ge 15:5, Seed, Jesus Christ, Gal 3:16).

mark46 · Oct 16, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Why doesn't Church Schumer and the Democrats care about special needs children? All they have to do is re-open the government.

Democrats are down to one issue on a short-term CR, the extension of Obamacare subsidies. Of course, they will do this again in a couple of months over the Medicaid subsidies to states.

Voters are currently receiving the cost of their options with very large increases in cost. Either Republican voters will convince Trump to make the one paragraph change or not. If NOT, at least 5 Democrats will likely fold by the end of next week.
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ONE ANSWER TO ALL OF THEM is a CR through the end of 2026.

BCP1928 · Oct 16, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Why doesn't Church Schumer and the Democrats care about special needs children? All they have to do is re-open the government.

And Trump will give them the Department of Education back? A department he promised on the first day of his term to eliminate? LOL!

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