ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in US illegally

[Valletta]

ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in US illegally

The Department of Homeland Security says the officer, Radule Bojovic, overstayed a tourist visa that expired in 2015.

www.yahoo.com

Like the school superintendent in Iowa, a false background can get you a long ways. Think of the millions of completely unvetted people that crossed the border during the Biden administration, where are they? How about all of the undocumented Chinese men of military age, how do they survive? I don't think half of America realized the extent of the damage that was done to our country.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It'll be interesting to see how this one shakes out. How do you use a real name with a "fake background" to get employment authorization?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

It'll be interesting to see how this one shakes out. How do you use a real name with a "fake background" to get employment authorization?

There's most likely hundreds of legal citizens named Radule Bojovic. He probably switched identies with one of them.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It'll be interesting to see how this one shakes out. How do you use a real name with a "fake background" to get employment authorization?

How do you use a real name with a fake background? Lie on your resume. You act like that has never been done before.

 

[iluvatar5150]

How do you use a real name with a fake background? Lie on your resume. You act like that has never been done before.

Have you applied for a job in the last 30 years?

Lying on your resume about anything beyond job duties won't even get past a basic background check, much less give you the documentation you need in order to fill out an I-9 and demonstrate employment eligibility. I suppose it's possible that a government agency would skip such formalities, but it strikes me as unlikely.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Have you applied for a job in the last 30 years?

Lying on your resume about anything beyond job duties won't even get past a basic background check, much less give you the documentation you need in order to fill out an I-9 and demonstrate employment eligibility. I suppose it's possible that a government agency would skip such formalities, but it strikes me as unlikely.

It got an illegal immigrant to become a school superintendent and live in the country for decades. All this shows is that fake documentation is far more sophisticated.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It'll be interesting to see how this one shakes out. How do you use a real name with a "fake background" to get employment authorization?

It has to do with data sharing capabilities between certain nations.

Here in Ohio, there was that story about Anthony Emmanuel Labrador Sierra.

Used his real name, just changed the year of birth on his forged documentation, and posed as a 17 year old (despite being 24) and got put into foster care and enrolled in the local high school (and played two sports)

It's because the US didn't have robust data sharing systems with Venezuela, therefore, they was no systems in place to authenticate documentation other than "eyeballing it".

In doing some searching, Montenegro isn't one of the entities we have bilateral data sharing with, they're not part of the visa-waiver program. And even the EU/Interpol only have "indirect access" to their data. (whatever that means)

Certain cities/states doing the "Sanctuary" thing (and skipping certain checks) does complicate matters a bit.

 

[NxNW]

Think of the millions of completely unvetted people that crossed the border during the Biden administration, where are they?

They are nowhere, because they don't exist.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

They are nowhere, because they don't exist.

Wait, so you're suggesting that there were literally zero people who snuck into the US (and are still here) between the years of 2021 through the second half of 2024?

Per Wikipedia:
Between fiscal years 2021 and 2023, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) recorded over 6 million encounters at the U.S.–Mexico border. Of these, approximately 2.3 million individuals were released into the country while awaiting immigration proceedings, and more than 1.5 million were classified as "gotaways," meaning they evaded detection.

Even left-leaning fact checking sites acknowledge as much
“the estimated annual apprehension rate has averaged 78%, identical to the rate of the prior Administration.” That rate would support a gotaway figure of 1.6 million from February 2021 through October 2023."


So unless you have some extraordinary evidence to the contrary (to refute Wikipedia, Snopes, and FactCheck.org), we should operate on the premise that there are 1.5-1.6 million "gotaways" that got into the country during Biden's tenure as president.

 

[Valletta]

They are nowhere, because they don't exist.

There were roughly 2 million known gotaways alone during the Biden administration.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It got an illegal immigrant to become a school superintendent and live in the country for decades. All this shows is that fake documentation is far more sophisticated.

I’d be interested to know how that one worked, too. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone in that position was actually set up as a contractor and had their own LLC. I don’t know how common that arrangement is for school superintendents, but it’s common for other executives, like CEO’s.

It has to do with data sharing capabilities between certain nations.

Here in Ohio, there was that story about Anthony Emmanuel Labrador Sierra.

Used his real name, just changed the year of birth on his forged documentation, and posed as a 17 year old (despite being 24) and got put into foster care and enrolled in the local high school (and played two sports)

It's because the US didn't have robust data sharing systems with Venezuela, therefore, they was no systems in place to authenticate documentation other than "eyeballing it".

In doing some searching, Montenegro isn't one of the entities we have bilateral data sharing with, they're not part of the visa-waiver program. And even the EU/Interpol only have "indirect access" to their data. (whatever that means)

Certain cities/states doing the "Sanctuary" thing (and skipping certain checks) does complicate matters a bit.

In this case, there wouldn’t be any need to share information with another country because it’s the US who issues visas and other documents related to the ability to stay and work. If his visa expired 10 years ago, how did he get work authorization using his real name?

 

[Hazelelponi]

If his visa expired 10 years ago, how did he get work authorization using his real name?

Simply put, he didn't.

It means the people who are doing the hiring in these locations are not looking for work authorization. In short, the hiring managers and higher ups don't care and are intentionally hiring illegals without work authorization.

Usually though, people get a job when they have valid work authorization and then stay in the position after their work authorization ends because employers aren't looking for updates, for example work authorization ends 6 months after getting the job, and the job doesn't check to see if the authorisation has been extended for the individual and a new work authorization given.

It's the employers legal responsibility to make sure a person is legally authorized to work, for the entire time an individual is working. Employers are not doing follow up, because they know when an individuals authorization ends when they hire that person as performimg a reverification on or before the expiration date is their legal responsibility.

So basically, everyone from police departments to school districts in blue states are breaking the law to employ illegals - knowingly.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Simply put, he didn't.

It means the people who are doing the hiring in these locations are not looking for work authorization. In short, the hiring managers and higher ups don't care and are intentionally hiring illegals without work authorization.

That's certainly possible, but it strikes me as unlikely for 1.) a government agency, and 2.) a government agency that then publicly announces that person's employment in their organization.

If we were talking about some random farm hand being paid under the table or a factory worker employed through a placement firm, absolutely. I wouldn't even be thinking about this question. But government jobs tend to be especially strict regarding certain processes and abuses. For example, working two f/t salaried jobs simultaneously in the private sector will get you fired; doing so in the public sector will get you arrested. In the private sector, doing drugs in your personal time is generally overlooked unless there are some legitimate life safety or licensure requirements, but in the public sector (at least for federal jobs), ongoing use of weed an automatic disqualifier for any job, even subcontractors.

Hiring an illegal with a very unique name and then publishing that person's name and picture on official channels seems like an incredibly risky thing to do deliberately.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

In this case, there wouldn’t be any need to share information with another country because it’s the US who issues visas and other documents related to the ability to stay and work. If his visa expired 10 years ago, how did he get work authorization using his real name?

I was referring more to background check part (that gets requested from NICS which gets data from the FBI and state agencies, and in turn, the FBI has hooks into other countries background check data when applicable if there's data sharing agreements) -- For example, my one buddy who's originally from the UK always takes a little longer to get his background checks approved for firearm purchases, because they have to check everything they normally would, plus wait for the UK to provide any pertinent check data from his time living over there.


As far as the work authorization mishap...
That could tie a little more into the "sanctuary" aspect.

Welcoming City Ordinance Explainer - 40th Ward of Chicago

Chicago has proudly operated as a sanctuary city since 1985. But what does that mean, exactly? Below, get answers on some of your most common questions about the Welcoming City Ordinance. What does the Welcoming City Ordinance do? The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things: What does the...

40thward.org

The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things:

1. it prohibits any City employee from asking about or assisting in the investigation of the immigration status of anyone, unless ordered to do so by court or federal law
2. it prevents city services from being denied to anyone on the basis of their immigration status.
3. it prohibits the Chicago Police Department from participating in or cooperating with federal civil immigration enforcement, unless they are required to do so by a court or federal law.

in reading up on it a little more, there's seems to be a disconnect between work authorizations and legal immigration status (in that they exist in different databases)

So if he had work authorization docs that appeared to be valid, but city employees are prohibited from asking questions about peoples' immigration status, you can see how that one may have slipped through the cracks.

 

[BassLine]

This recent info reported by Reuters may clarify some of the speculation in this thread.
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By Renee Hickman

CHICAGO (Reuters) -A suburban Chicago police officer arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Thursday was legally authorized to work in the U.S. and had completed a full background check by the FBI, according to the Village of Hanover Park, where he was employed.

Radule Bojovic, who was born in Montenegro, was arrested "during a targeted enforcement action," according to a press release from the Department of Homeland Security. DHS said Bojovic was in the country illegally after overstaying a B2 tourist visa more than 10 years ago. But a statement from the Village of Hanover Park later on Thursday said its police department received a work authorization card for Bojovic issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which had recently been renewed. The Village also said Bojovic had successfully completed a background check with the FBI and the Illinois State Police.

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So if he had work authorization docs that appeared to be valid, but city employees are prohibited from asking questions about peoples' immigration status, you can see how that one may have slipped through the cracks.

The officer is in Hanover Park, not Chicago

 

[ThatRobGuy]

This recent info reported by Reuters may clarify some of the speculation in this thread.
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By Renee Hickman

CHICAGO (Reuters) -A suburban Chicago police officer arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Thursday was legally authorized to work in the U.S. and had completed a full background check by the FBI, according to the Village of Hanover Park, where he was employed.

Radule Bojovic, who was born in Montenegro, was arrested "during a targeted enforcement action," according to a press release from the Department of Homeland Security. DHS said Bojovic was in the country illegally after overstaying a B2 tourist visa more than 10 years ago. But a statement from the Village of Hanover Park later on Thursday said its police department received a work authorization card for Bojovic issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which had recently been renewed. The Village also said Bojovic had successfully completed a background check with the FBI and the Illinois State Police.

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The officer is in Hanover Park, not Chicago

Isn't all of Illinois a "sanctuary state"?

With laws that restrict certain information sharing between state and federal agencies?

Illinois Sanctuary Law Under Fire - Immigration Reform Law Institute

IRLI demonstrates fatal conflict with federal law WASHINGTON—Yesterday, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) filed a brief in an Illinois federal district court attacking Illinois’ TRUST Act, a law barring state law enforcement officers from cooperating and sharing information with...

www.irli.org

Action by a government employer in Illinois	Allowed?	Authority
Asking about immigration status in an interview form	❌ Generally prohibited	EO 2021-17; TRUST Act policy
Asking if the applicant is a U.S. citizen (for a non-federal, non-security job)	⚠️ Risky — generally discouraged	EO 2021-17; IHRA
Asking citizenship status if a federal contract or security clearance requires it	✅ Allowed / required	Federal requirement exception
Sharing an applicant’s immigration info with ICE or DHS without judicial warrant	❌ Forbidden	TRUST Act §25

For example, in looking at some local municipalities here in Ohio, their questionnaires on the applications follow the pattern of
A) Are you a US citizen?
B) If yes, were you born in the United States?
If not born in the United States, which country were you born in, and what was your naturalization date?

 

[iluvatar5150]

I was referring more to background check part (that gets requested from NICS which gets data from the FBI and state agencies, and in turn, the FBI has hooks into other countries background check data when applicable if there's data sharing agreements) -- For example, my one buddy who's originally from the UK always takes a little longer to get his background checks approved for firearm purchases, because they have to check everything they normally would, plus wait for the UK to provide any pertinent check data from his time living over there.


As far as the work authorization mishap...
That could tie a little more into the "sanctuary" aspect.

Welcoming City Ordinance Explainer - 40th Ward of Chicago

Chicago has proudly operated as a sanctuary city since 1985. But what does that mean, exactly? Below, get answers on some of your most common questions about the Welcoming City Ordinance. What does the Welcoming City Ordinance do? The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things: What does the...

40thward.org

The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things:

1. it prohibits any City employee from asking about or assisting in the investigation of the immigration status of anyone, unless ordered to do so by court or federal law
2. it prevents city services from being denied to anyone on the basis of their immigration status.
3. it prohibits the Chicago Police Department from participating in or cooperating with federal civil immigration enforcement, unless they are required to do so by a court or federal law.

in reading up on it a little more, there's seems to be a disconnect between work authorizations and legal immigration status (in that they exist in different databases)

So if he had work authorization docs that appeared to be valid, but city employees are prohibited from asking questions about peoples' immigration status, you can see how that one may have slipped through the cracks.

Are you just constantly stretching things these days to paint libs as bad guys?

This ordinance is obviously about city services, not employment, for which federal law does require them to verify employment status (which is tied to citizenship). Here's the City of Chicago's (which, again, is not Hanover Park) careers page:

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/dhr/provdrs/emp/svcs/city_of_chicago_jobopportunities.html

The first two prep items they list for prospective applicants are Proof of Eligibility and Residency:

 

[BCP1928]

Isn't all of Illinois a "sanctuary state"?

With laws that restrict certain information sharing between state and federal agencies?

Illinois Sanctuary Law Under Fire - Immigration Reform Law Institute

IRLI demonstrates fatal conflict with federal law WASHINGTON—Yesterday, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) filed a brief in an Illinois federal district court attacking Illinois’ TRUST Act, a law barring state law enforcement officers from cooperating and sharing information with...

www.irli.org

Action by a government employer in Illinois	Allowed?	Authority
Asking about immigration status in an interview form	❌ Generally prohibited	EO 2021-17; TRUST Act policy
Asking if the applicant is a U.S. citizen (for a non-federal, non-security job)	⚠️ Risky — generally discouraged	EO 2021-17; IHRA
Asking citizenship status if a federal contract or security clearance requires it	✅ Allowed / required	Federal requirement exception
Sharing an applicant’s immigration info with ICE or DHS without judicial warrant	❌ Forbidden	TRUST Act §25

For example, in looking at some local municipalities here in Ohio, their questionnaires on the applications follow the pattern of
A) Are you a US citizen?
B) If yes, were you born in the United States?
If not born in the United States, which country were you born in, and what was your naturalization date?

The thing is, we don't know what kind of checking was done. In any case, there are two propositions on the table here:

1. That he was hired intentionally because he was known to be an illegal alien.
2. That he was hired accidently because of inadequate background checking.

I realize that the third possibility, that ICE is wrong about his immigration status, cannot be entertained.