AV1611VET said:

They wouldn't make serious mistakes either, would they?

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It's as easy to make observational errors as it is to make erroneous inferences. The key in science is reproducabiliy. Results, if they can't be replicated, are not valid.

d taylor said:

The current system is creating more dependents on government and not less, that can not be maintained.

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That's because employers give such poor working conditions.

rjs330 said:

Thats not what the breakdown shows.

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H.R. 1 makes significant changes to the Medicaid/Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Medicare and Affordable Care Act (ACA). Changes include new requirements states must meet to maintain federal support for the Medicaid programs, as well as more strict criteria beneficiaries must meet to qualify for and maintain enrollment in federal healthcare programs.

SabbathBlessings said:

So Gentiles can worship other gods and murder and covet and steal or break the least of these commandments despite Jesus saying "whoever" breaks the least of these commandments will be least in heaven Mat 5:19 and according to the next verse means won't be there Mat 5:20 I think you have some misunderstandings of God's law because in His covenant- which has God's laws now written in the heart and mind Heb 8:10 if we are part of the promise, we are grafted in through faith Gal 3:26-28 and have His laws in our hearts.

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This is so off course to my post. Let me just repeat, What does the law say?
The law as some read it, would consider many of these these issues belonging to law in place BEFORE MOSES. So rather than Gentiles obeying JEWISH LAW, The context becomes JEWISH LAW RETAINED LAW among Gentiles. You don't need to agree, just acknowledge that context in the posts of others.
I would like to provide an example of what I am talking about... (again you do not need to agree) Discussion on this point is for another thread.
Lev 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

Clearly, Israelites here were subject to the same prohibitions that the Nations were judged by. NOT VICE VERSA.
Go into any synagogue and ask about law distinct to Gentiles. They are called Noachide today. Sons of Noah. God fearers in the days of Christ.

dogs4thewin said:

I know that which is part of the reason why I do not support incarceration for non-violent offenders at least as a first option.

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The justice system is the most messed up area of government there is. Back in May /June i was in the jury pool to be selected for a murder trial. The murder happened in 2018 and out of 40 to 45 people to pick from, the lawyers could not agree on 14 people to select for the jury.

Pop D. said:

Wouldn't just toss it out, Richard said there was tax software on it which means there's probably sensitive data in there. Would need to wipe the drive first, preferably with a file shredder (just make sure the correct drive is selected). Or physically destroy the SSD with a hammer (watch out for shrapnel).

I do both-I like to be thorough.

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Oh right I didnt read that part youre definitely right on that part yikes! Yeah if the drive is bad wipe it first with a low level format if you know how to do that. If you dont you can just delete all partitions on the drive and format it on the windows 10/11 installation screen. If you need step by step instructions on how to do that I can give them to you.

What ever happened to the idea that the priest or the representative of God to the people was to be above reproach. Aman of good reputation in the community before they are given such authority.

Paul told Timothy not to be too hasty with appointing bishops and priests. It seems like the modern church has become way too hasty.

timf said:

As I understand it in the Hellenistic period before Christ, Jewish rabbis would not allow the use of the Septuagint because it was unreliable.

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Well it was quoted by the Apostles in the New Testament and was the primary Old Testament used by the early church until the Vulgate was translated from Hebrew and Aramaic texts (and also the Ethiopian Orthodox continued to use the Ge’ez Old Testament). , so it can’t be that bad.

If any rabbis objected to it, their objections are irrelevant from a Christian perspective.

Kathleen30 said:

A mere misspelling. But thank you. It seems to be what the latest findings be that Islam embraced Arianism

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I'm aware of theories that certain heterodox forms of Christianity present in pre-Islamic Arabia may have been an influence on Muhammad's religious beliefs. But Islam isn't Arian. Arians believed in a Divine Son of God, but they didn't believe the Divine Son of God was homoousios with the Father. Islam teaches that Jesus is only human, a view held not by Arianism, but was held by some groups like Ebionites and Nasoreans, these Judeo-Christian sects which held to a solely human, or a group similar or related to them, may have influenced Islam.

-CryptoLutheran

Len.M said:

Septuagint Error.

The currently available copies (In English) of the Septuagint (LXX) has some very bad copyist errors between Gen.5:3 and Gen. 11:12. where the life spans of pre-flood people are given. If you calculate the time spans shown (very easy to do) you will see that they show Methuselah did not die until 14 years after the Flood. That of course is wrong and ridiculous, as it is contrary to a large amount of other Scripture. Both the Hebrew and Christian Bibles correctly show that Methuselah died the year of the Flood (just before). This copyist error spread over 5 chapters of Genesis does little to convince that the remainder of the current copy of the LXX is reliable. It also shows that the longevity of pre Flood peoples in the LXX is an error.

As a footnote to this I will add the following.

Archbishop Usher in A.D. 1650 arrived at the date for Adam’s creation as being, BC 4004 & the Flood as being, BC 2348 .
My figures as arrived at using the N.K.J.V. for Adams creation (Not the World) are BC 4162 & the Flood as BC 2530 and the Exodus as BC 1532.
MY figures as arrived at using the LXX (NETS) are ; Adams creation, BC 5508 and the Flood BC 3298.

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You haven’t read it in Greek then?

Which versions of the Septuagint have you read?

The Liturgist said:

We have a cradle Orthodox member of the forum with a great deal of knowledge about Judaism, @Yeshua HaDerekh - he might have heard of that.

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I am aware.

Pommer said:

With regards to the “illegals” at least some of them have “somewhere” to “go back to”. America’s poor are stuck here.

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Then why have many sanctuary cites ignored their own poor in favor of illegals?

Did someone posting in this thread actually claim to be engaging in prophetic utterances?

BCP1928 said:

Why do we have to? Evolution, as you re well aware, is an orderly process. It seems not to require outside intervention at the level of contingent causality. Some theists and some athiests take the position that evolution is bereft of divine Providence.

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Have you read what St. Thomas Aquinas wrote about Divine Providence and necessity vs. contingency?

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Saying "We don't know yet" is a perfectly legitimate, serious and truthful answer.

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Arguably it is a key foundation of science. What interests scientists isn't what they know, but what they don't know. Otherwise they wouldn't be scientists, merely observers of existing information. This is difficult for those distant from science to understand.

NxNW said:

The fossil record is not consistent with all life forms being created at once.

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God doesn't say they were all created at once. Most Christians don't even think the "days" of Genesis are actual time periods.

JosephZ said:

I said most of the people that are going to be hurt by the passing of this bill are not those who entered the country illegally or those scamming the system. There's a lot more to this bill than work requirements being added to SNAP and Medicaid. BTW, there have never been work requirements for receiving Medicaid.

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I look forward to the links from the bill that show who ant what you are alluding to.

dogs4thewin said:

and then you end up in prison ( which I DO believe in Rehab once someone gets to prison I AM left-leaning in terms of what deserves incarceration and how incarcerated people should be treated.

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Prison they are all ready at maxim capacity .

Mississippi prisons may soon exceed capacity – Jackson Advocate

Free2bHeretical4Him! said:

This makes no sense to me … sorry. That is why I have asked you to explain your statement. If you are unable to articulate how you arrive at your position I suggest you take more time and give more thought to how you arrive at this conclusion. Otherwise, just tell me you don’t want to be bothered. Basically all you have done is provide a thesis statement and developed no thought to support that statement.

Blessings

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Let’s look at John 6:


“Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; the one who comes to Me will not be hungry, and the one who believes in Me will never be thirsty. But I said to you that you have indeed seen Me, and yet you do not believe. Everything that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I certainly will not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.””
‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭35‬-‭40‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

This Jesus recitation explaining why He came down from heaven to do the will of the Father and what the result of His sacrifice will be. Notice that the will of the Father is that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life. This is a subsection of the population and not all.

Conversely it is not the will of the Father to save those that do not see or believe in the Son. This would change God’s will and subsequently Jesus’s sacrifice. If God wants to forgive everyone’s sins then He does not need a very visual sacrifice for all to see and believe.

rjs330 said:

Thats not what the breakdown shows.

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The breakdown by the Congressional Budget Office shows that poor and vulnerable get less while the wealthy get more. The reports show show that the bottom 20% of earners will receive less than 5% of tax cut benefits while also facing losses from Medicaid and SNAP reductions and the top 1% will see tax savings averaging $50,000–$100,000 annually. The top 1% would also benefit from estate tax changes and business incentives.

The changes would not be evenly distributed among households. The agency estimates that in general, resources would decrease for households toward the bottom of the income distribution, whereas resources would increase for households in the middle and top of the income distribution.

Resources for households in the lowest decile of the income distribution would decrease by about $1,600 per year (in 2025 dollars) compared with their projected income in CBO’s baseline projections (see Figure 1).5 That amounts to 3.9 percent of their income (see Figure 2). Those projected decreases are mainly attributable to reductions in in-kind transfers, such as Medicaid and SNAP.

Resources would increase, on average, over the projection period by about $12,000 for households in the highest decile, amounting to 2.3 percent of their projected income. Those projected increases are mainly attributable to reductions in the taxes households in that decile owe.

GoldenBoy89 said:

An unchecked Vladimir Putin and unreliable US leadership, mostly.

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Remind me again, who was president when Putin crossed the border with no help to the Ukraine from the US whatsoever

Aaron112 said:

Not necessarily.
Those who decide to walk away from Jesus, just like many of His Own Disciples did in the NT, can walk away and never be resurrected to life.

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I understand what you are saying A112. But those people were never born again. They merely assented to His teaching as long as it benefited them. The first time something came up that they did not like, they hit the road. As John said:

"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."

Thanks for your comment.