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David Lamb · Sep 3, 2025

Hentenza said:
No. The word that was being used was re-distribution (hyphenated) as being different than redistribution. Hyphenated re-distribution is not in the dictionary.

Thanks for explaining.

The Liturgist · Sep 3, 2025

ViaCrucis said:
Enthusiasm doesn't relate, per se, to anything miraculous. Enthusiasm, in its original sense meaning "god-within" is the notion that experience of God is purely immediate (literally, as in without mediation); the Lutheran confession is our experience of God is mediated through Word and Sacrament, through the Church; because Christ our Mediator is here with us in His Church, in Word and Sacrament.

A classic example Enthusiasm from the Reformation era would be Thomas Müntzer/Müntzerism. Essentially, the idea that I have direct, personal access to God through my own interior experience of God entirely apart from Scripture, apart from the preaching of the word, apart from the Sacraments--through immediate revelation and experience. One does not, properly, need Scripture, or need the external operations of the Church's ministry--one need only have direct immediate experience of God. Thus personal revelation through dreams or visions were equal, or even superior, to Scripture.

Where the miraculous comes into play here is the idea that alleged miracles, or "signs and wonders" provide evidence of doctrinal or theological truths entirely apart from the received faith. That is, to say that I can reject solid biblical exposition and teaching and the received confession of faith because "such and such" miracle, or sign, or wonder "proves" the "truth" of the alternative. This is precisely why, we Lutherans, would insist on why it is so important to test the spirits. It's also why Luther went so far as to say that if something claims to be God or from God, but is apart from God's own Self-giving of Himself in Word and Sacrament, then it's not God at all, but the devil. God would never lead us away from Word and Sacrament to something else, they are His precious Means of Grace, He is there, present in these Gifts for us. So a miracle that denies the truth is no miracle at all, but can only ever be a charlatan's trick or a diabolical delusion. What my Orthodox brethren would identify with prelest.

-CrypptoLutheran

That is so beautifully expressed, and represents yet another area of Lutheran-Orthodox doctrinal convergence.

And I am aware of two alleged Marian apparitions that the Roman Catholic Church never officially sanctioned as worthy of belief, but in one case in particular, that of Ida Peerdeman’s claimed encounter with a spirit who referred to herself as “The Lady who was once Mary” who the most recent Archbishop of Amsterdam has distressingly been promoting (along with others in the Dutch Church), who in a manner completely out of character of all Marian apparitions that the Catholics and Orthodox agree are legitimate, as well as a few others, demanded that the church implement a “fifth dogma” declaring her to be co-redemptrix, which is something that would obviously preclude communion with the Orthodox on the basis of being neo-Collyridian, and behaved in a threatening manner.

Also only one person saw this supposed apparition, so assuming it was not a hallucination but an honest and accurate reporting of an experience, I am reminded of the threatening behavior attributed by Muhammed to the entity he claimed was Jibreel, that is, St. Gabriel the Archangel - that assuming that regarding his initial encounters Muhammed was telling the truth (there is some evidence that later on, he was making things up as he went along, such as the “Satanic Verses” controversy, a book about which resulted not just in a fatwa against Salman Rushdie but a recent attempt on his life that left him blind in one eye; it is typical according to the Orthodox fathers for demons to lead someone down the garden path and then abandon them*, which perhaps happened in that case, so I would not be surprised if Muhammed did encounter a demon, but unfortunately due to his lack of spiritual formation, having only encountered a heretic on the fringes of Christianity (the specific heresy being a matter of speculation by fathers such as St. John of Damascus; I myself tend to lean towards the opinion of some fathers that it was an Arian, since an Arian might in their anti-Trinitarianism have imparted to Muhammed the falsehood he believed, that the Trinity consisted of the Father, Son, and St. Mary, which is obviously wrong ).

And of course recently several groups have embraced supposed prophecies which are clearly prelest. I would cite the various Prosperity Gospel preachers as a classic example.

* In the case of some monks, mostly idiorythmic or solitary monks or near-solitaries living in sketes, according to various sources such as the Desert Fathers, they were persuaded they could fly due to their holiness, borne aloft by demons and then allowed to fall into the canyon below. In another case a monk had to be restrained from flinging himself to his death based on the same delusion.

MarkRohfrietsch · Sep 3, 2025

MarkRohfrietsch said:
Zionist Christians need to wake up and see what Israel is doing to the Christians in Palestine; they have earlier this week, told them to leave. There is no place for Christians in Israel's Zion, just as there is no place for those who do not accept Christ in God's "New Jerusalem". Sorry if this is offensive, but someone had to say it.

MarkRohfrietsch · Sep 3, 2025

ozso said:
What if a Lutheran pastor from a different Lutheran denomonation wanted to take communion at your church?

Also does your church consider communion in other Lutheran denominations valid communion?

And what about say communion taken in Southern Baptist churches?

Those from other Synods who's doctrine aligns, not an issue; those from Synods who are not in fellowship and who reject the Biblical Eucharistic Theology as explained in the unaltered 1580 edition of "The Book of Concord" would not, but in rejecting the BOC, would make them not really Lutheran by our definition.

Southern Baptists reject the real presence and also have believers (adult) baptism; there is no unity; to think that there is, is false ecuminism.

Hentenza · Sep 3, 2025

David Lamb said:
Do you mean that you cannot find the word "redistribution" in any dictionary? The Cambridge Dictionary, the Meriam-Webster Dictionary, Oxford English Dictionary and Collins Dictionary all have it, and I am sure others do as well.

No. The word that was being used was re-distribution (hyphenated) as being different than redistribution. Hyphenated re-distribution is not in the dictionary.

Hentenza · Sep 3, 2025

FireDragon76 said:
It's gloss/propaganda.

Prove it.

Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

DaisyDay said:
This report comes amidst an overwhelming wave of anti-transgender legislation. In 2023, for the first time in their 40+ year history, the Human Rights Campaign declared a National State of Emergency

2000 years ago, The Messiah Savior Son of God , with ABBA YAHWEH, continued to verify God's Word,
which is anti-sin always and forever. No sins forbidden in heaven then are okay now or in the future. So strict ? Even that not one greedy person will ever be found in heaven !!! And no adulterer.

Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

Daniel Carlton said:
So after 25 pages is anyone thinking of changing their position and adopting popery?

How many pages is anyone's Bible ? Check any/all/every teaching to verify it is or is not in line with all Scripture BEFORE ACCEPTING anything or anyone or any doctrine or any teaching. Otherwise error gets in too easy, even willingly , and not for good, not from God.

Daniel Carlton · Sep 3, 2025

Xeno.of.athens said:
Not the most clever "question" eh?

. . .

Just asking.

DaisyDay · Sep 3, 2025

rjs330 said:
Oh, yes if course you pull out incomplete statistical information. Its already been proven that the vast majority of assaults etc on trans people are done by their own LGBT community and not the rest of us or had NOTHING to do with them being trans.

Cite?

rjs330 said:
They are not treated badly by society at large, but by their own group. The rest of us wish the radicals among them and the rest of the radical left on this issue would just leave us alone. WE DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE TRANS. Be trans, its no skin off our nose until they start trying to force the rest of us to treat them like the opposite sex when we know they are not. Leave our kids alone.

https://reports.hrc.org/an-epidemic-of-violence-2024

This report comes amidst an overwhelming wave of anti-transgender legislation. In 2023, for the first time in their 40+ year history, the Human Rights Campaign declared a National State of Emergency for LGBTQ+ Americans, in response to the over 550 anti-LGBTQ+ bills introduced into state houses across the country, more than 85 of which were passed into law. This trend continued into 2024, where over 500 additional anti-LGBTQ+ bills were introduced, and over 40 passed into law across 14 states.

Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

So much confusion, not from God. Not loving truth. Nothing can be done here about that, eh?

Pioneer3mm · Sep 3, 2025

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Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

Tuur said:
Uh...breathing produces CO2, which some regard as a pollutant, and what we breath out is hardly clean, which is why surgeons mask when cutting someone open.

No and no.
btw, look up effectiveness of masks.
re surgeons who tried without masks for a few months continued without masks unless ordered otherwise. Many more infections happen when masked. Not popular, so if someone wants to know, they have to find out for themselves what was covered up for decades.
CO2 is required ..... sigh..... A lot of money made though tricking those paying for being tricked.

johnnypapa · Sep 3, 2025

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Tuur · Sep 3, 2025

Aaron112 said:
No. Breathing is not a cause of pollution.

Uh...breathing produces CO2, which some regard as a pollutant, and what we breath out is hardly clean, which is why surgeons mask when cutting someone open.

BelieveItOarKnot · Sep 3, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
This is what the Bible teaches

Acts 3:19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,

G1813
ἐξαλείφω
exaleiphō
ex-al-i'-fo
From G1537 and G218; to smear out, that is, obliterate (erase tears, figuratively pardon sin): - blot out, wipe away.

IF sin were only of the person, you'd have a point.

But we all know sin is in fact "of the devil," Mark 4;15, 1 John 3:8

So when we try to cover the entirety of ourselves, we're really just being pawned by our adversary, to "forgive the devil" as well.

It just don't work. But we can get fat, dumb and happy in those phony shoes

Tuur · Sep 3, 2025

David Lamb said:
Both individual and collective. I believe we should each individually take care with unnecessary use of fossil fuels, and with recycling as much as we can. But So should countries. Here in the UK, for example, the sale of new petrol and diesel cars will be banned in just a few years time, and supermarkets are being encouraged to use less plastic in packaging.

As someone who's worked 40+ years keeping the electricity on, I honestly say "Good luck with that." I stepped out of our HQ maybe three or four days after Hurricane Helene came through, with the power still out, and saw an electric truck. My first thought was "Where are you charging it?" You had to go about forty miles to find a town with electricity, and that was on the edge of devastation. My home electricity was out a few hours shy of a week, and we were one of the fortunate ones. Our utility had most of its grid restored by the second Sunday after Helene, and I know some crews assisting us went to a neighboring utility who still had power out.

Meanwhile, all someone with a petrol fueled vehicle had to do was initially drive outside of the worst damage and fill-up, essentially "recharging" in the time it took to fill the tank. Then places with petrol in the damage area rigged up generators and were selling petrol there, and that was a big help. But unless you had a generator, you couldn't charge an electric vehicle.

Now, in the back of my mind is that the UK is a small country by US standards, and things aren't as far away from each other. But there was someone who does travel articles who tried to tour the UK in an electric vehicle, and it was a fail due to lack of charging locations and limited range. Note: I looked for the article just now and couldn't find it, but it was from a UK source.

There's something else that no one's talking about: When you charge anything electric, a puff of smoke may well be going up somewhere. Wind and solar doesn't have energy storage sufficient to provide a cushion, which means you still have to rely on non-renewables to tide you over, or sit in the dark. Lithium battery stations are a literal nightmare. We looked at one to provide power during peak times on one substation, but we couldn't put it where we needed because of the danger to structures if the thing ever caught fire. The idea behind renewables are good, but without power storage, they can't replace non-renewables.

The one existing solution no one really seems to want much is nuclear power, which produces nuclear waste, but compare the volume of that to the volume of greenhouse gases from other non-renewables.

Then again, I'm an old man, and no one listens to old men., so I guess people will have to learn the hard way.

BelieveItOarKnot · Sep 3, 2025

Aaron112 said:
When Jesus approached someone, and said "Follow Me" , those persons might or might not have realized they were "in fact IN" (whatever you mean , no matter).

Be Becoming like a little child/ infant, "My children KNOW MY VOICE and follow ME - they will not follow another voice - rather run from it. "

Few if any in babylon (including babylon churches), "know" they are deceived . They have been told they are okay, all right, no worries, or some such... or "don't make waves".... ?

1 John chptrs 1 - 5 shows for little children how to know that they are in the light, now to know that they know the truth. Simple. Nor read by many. Not understood by most. Only by those Eternal Almighty Reveals to.

There are some very simple measures involved here.

IF we say we are only light, we're lying and hypocrites

IF we say we have no sin, present tense, have, we're lying hypocrites

IF we say we have no evil thoughts that defile us, we're lying hypocrites

It is so easy to see this, when we take it upon ourselves to tell the truth

And if we try to justify the entirety of ourselves, that is merely the tempter, lying like the devil he is

God is both friend and foe in these equations, both equally important

eclipsenow · Sep 3, 2025

JSRG said:
Ah, Project 2025, the boogeyman of Democrats.

I guess that's why so many former Republican Trump staffer's are speaking out against it?

I guess that's why Australia's ABC’s flagship current affairs program “4 Corners” ran a special on Project 2025?
It's all those Democrats! Riiiiiiight.
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ABC then shared the full interview with the former CIA director.

”Leon Panetta says countries are governed either by leadership or by crisis. He tells Four Corners that democracy would be threatened if Trump was to be re-elected as President of the United States and says, ‘it was bad enough the first time’. Panetta speaks about what he sees as Trump’s disregard for intelligence, focus on power, desire to mobilise the military and what that would mean for the United States. In this interview, Panetta shares his fears about America’s future and exposes the troubles of the first Trump administration.”

Panetta said:-
* Trump did not really take any interest in intelligence briefings. (I'm guessing that's Trump's NPD kicking in - HE wants to be the one that speaks - and cannot admit he needs to learn anything!)
* Without an adequate appreciation of intelligence - does America even have a Commander in Chief?
* His threatening NATO weakens the western world.
* Trump should not be let near a political party - let alone be a Candidate for the White House.
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And we have seen all this come to pass!

Also alarming - Erica Newland served as an attorney at the Department of Justice under Donald Trump.
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I was quite stunned that Trump was returned to office.

JSRG said:
A document so awful that... they have to actually make up stuff about it to attack it.

Some probably did. But it's not just the document - but the new relationships described both in - and in the creation of - this document.

JSRG said:
Now, I sure haven't read much of the thing; it's obscenely long.

You're not wrong there! Project 2025 is 920 pages, and even Mein Kampf was only 720 pages long.

JSRG said:
Maybe there's some absolutely horrible stuff in it.

Watch the 4 Corners and the 2 interviews above. Snopes summarised a few key points I'm concerned about:-

Changing how the FBI operates. According to the plan, the agency is "completely out of control," and the next conservative administration should restore its reputation by stopping investigations that are supposedly "unlawful or contrary to the national interest." Also, the document calls for legislation that would eliminate term limits for the FBI's director and require that person to answer to the president.

And now there's a "Big Lie Believer" and conspiracy theorist Kash Patel in charge.

Eliminating the Department of Education. The plan explicitly proposes, "Federal education policy should be limited and, ultimately, the federal Department of Education should be eliminated." The report also calls for bans on so-called "critical race theory" (CRT) and "gender ideology" lessons in public schools, asking for legislation that would require educators who share such material to register as sex offenders and be imprisoned.

One may as well say "Thought crime".

Reversing Biden-era policies attempting to reduce climate change. The document's authors call for increasing the country's reliance on fossil fuels and withdrawing from efforts to address the climate crisis — such as "offices, programs, and directives designed to advance the Paris Climate Agreement."

This one is less about backsliding on democratic integrity, and more about a policy outcome I really care about. But hey - if America wants to kneecap itself economically - well - that's history now.

Stopping cybersecurity efforts to combat mis- and disinformation. The document recommends the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to stop its efforts to curtail online propaganda campaigns, arguing the federal government should not make judgment calls on what's true and what isn't.

Because that kind of thing is inconvenient when Trump wants to push his narcissistic "Big Lie".

Changing immigration policies. Authors want the federal government to deprioritize DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), the program that temporarily delays the deportation of immigrants without documentation who came to the U.S. as children; phase out temporary work-visa programs that allow seasonal employers to hire foreign workers; impose financial punishments on so-called "sanctuary cities" that do not follow federal immigration laws, and divert tax dollars toward security at America's border with Mexico. (While the Biden campaign claims Project 2025 calls for "ripping mothers away from their children" at the border, there's no explicit mention of separating families. Rather, it calls for stronger enforcement of laws governing the detainment of immigrants with criminal records and restricting an existing program that tracks people in deportation proceedings instead of incarcerating them. In some cases, those changes could possibly play a role in border control agents detaining a parent while their child continues with immigration proceedings.)

And by handing it over to private corporations on a profit-per-detainee model - people with minor paper work glitches (NOT illegal immigrants) on friendly business trips from Canada are being detained for up to 2 weeks!

Reversing protections against discrimination in housing. The Biden campaign emails reference a portion of the document that calls for repealing a decades-old policy—strengthened under Biden—that attempts to prevent discrimination and reduce racial disparities in housing. Project 2025 also recommends making it easier to sell off homes used for public housing — a benefit to real estate developers — but result in fewer cheap housing options for poor and low-income families. The Facts About Project 2025: The Pro-Trump Proposal To 'Reshape America'

But watch the 4 Corners pieces. This was just Snopes.

BelieveItOarKnot · Sep 3, 2025

Aaron112 said:
except for those who do not remain in sin and darkness, even though they willingly and joyously give up their lives and never renounce Jesus nor sin sillily nor value their own lives to save them.

Everyone remains in sin in this present life.

There was only ONE who walked this earth, sinless. Only One. And even He, decided Himself to die in the flesh, like us. God in fact USED the devils in people to kill Him. They stood up to resist Him, and to kill Him.

They still stand up to RESIST Him. On cue. Look at all the so called believers who promote our neighbors to burn alive forever when God for no uncertain fact COMMANDED us to love them. How is it then that we ALL land in the exact opposite place of His Command???

You have to see past this evil at some point. That's what we're called to do. See ourselves PAST our own internal evil that promotes burning people alive. Can our faith be any sicker? I don't think so.

God always planned for their to be natural people, like Adam, planted in weakness, corruption and dishonor, to be raised In Him at our finale. To be "made" spirits apart from this present captivity of darkness. 1 Cor. 15:42-46

But for the devils in mankind, no, their fate is in fact already set up and they will fail at their end.

TWO are in the same bed.

TWO are in the same field.

TWO are grinding

The wheat and the tare grow from the same ground

All of these are pictures of "us" and our "adversary," the tempter who operates INTERNALLY.

Only ONE is moving on, and it's not the tempter or his own within anyone

Divide here and you'll be glad you FELL

Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

BelieveItOarKnot said:
In order to come out, we recognize we are in fact IN.

When Jesus approached someone, and said "Follow Me" , those persons might or might not have realized they were "in fact IN" (whatever you mean , no matter).

Be Becoming like a little child/ infant, "My children KNOW MY VOICE and follow ME - they will not follow another voice - rather run from it. "

Few if any in babylon (including babylon churches), "know" they are deceived . They have been told they are okay, all right, no worries, or some such... or "don't make waves".... ?

1 John chptrs 1 - 5 shows for little children how to know that they are in the light, now to know that they know the truth. Simple. Nor read by many. Not understood by most. Only by those Eternal Almighty Reveals to.

johnnypapa · Sep 3, 2025

Praying to Avoid Stupidities

Private prayer derives from the Church’s public worship, and we apply the insights inspired by God’s grace to our daily affairs.

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Aaron112 · Sep 3, 2025

Tuur said:
The Mother Earth News used to be a good resource for off-grid or sort-of off-grid and generally what was seen as lower environmental impact living. I don't know if the modern magazine is still like that, but if not, the back-issues, found in many libraries, are a treasure-trove of information from those actually used what they were writing about. They are a good resource if someone wants to move to a low-impact lifestyle.

KOOL! (Used to read and look up the mother earth news regularly - great stuff (subject to testing) ! )

Strict Discipline is necessary for LIFE ! Meditating daily/ continually on what God Says, instead of easy brainwashing (like tv, media, politics(don't think for yourself), maybe most preachers(don't think for yourself).... )
Test Everything. Everything, everything, and before accepting anything or anyone, prove TRUE.

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