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And WHAT IS ACTS 16:15 SAYING. TO YOU. ??

ACTS 16:15 reads , And when she and her household were BAPTIZED /. BAPTISO. , is in. the Aorist Tense , means it happened in. the past ,

is in the PASSIVE VOICE , MEANING Christ had a hand in verse 15

in the INDICATIVE MOOD , meaning you better believe it ,

and is in. the Singular , meaning it will. not happen again !

Your thoughts as to what , the BAPTISM is with Water or without Water

OR is it Baptism of the Holy Spirit ?

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The household was baptized in the past, relative to the time it was written about.
If their repentance from sin was true, baptism won't need to happen again, as there will be no more sins to be cleansed of.
As the speaking in tongues wasn't mentioned, (a byproduct of the giving of the gift of the Holy Ghost), I would say it was baptism using water, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of past sins.
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People aren't lifted out of poverty by taking other people's money. No nation has ever been made wealthy by other nations handing over their wealth... ...We could give away our entire military budget and some other nation like China would attack us.
Those examples wouldn't work in alleviating global poverty anyway. I'm not sure why you felt any of those methods would be necessary.

Christians could give away all they have and there would still be poverty in the world.
That's a certainty, because if Christians gave away all they have, they would become impoverished.
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Trust The Process

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Proverbs 3:5 NIV
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

This past Saturday, I ran a 5K with a friend of mine from church. We were both really excited to run in the same race again. Before the race started, we were talking about setting pace and I mentioned how I wanted to get below a certain time. My friend offered to pace me and get my time lower. However, he told me to just listen to him, keep up and don’t look at my race watch. I agreed with the pace he told me and I ran along with him.

Throughout the race, we chatted a lot together and he commented on my breathing as well as asking me how I was feeling. He also encouraged me to keep up when he went faster and explained when he was going to go faster. The last mile, I was hurting and I had to mentally push myself to finish. I was exhausted, but at the end, I sprinted as well as I could. We crossed the line together and I took a few minutes to catch my breath.

When I looked at my final time, I almost fell down! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing! He took me faster than I thought he would. He was sneaky and pushed me harder than the pace time he had originally said. Why?? Because he knew I was capable and could do it. Hearing that blew me away! I had an idea in mind and he took me beyond that! I trusted him to take me through the race and coach me to get a better time. And….he did!

I spent the rest of the day and weekend just blown away at what I had just done. But, I could NOT have done it if I ran on my own. He had a strategy in mind and knew what he was doing. I did not. I just trusted the process and gave it my all.

Friends, so often in our lives, we have our own ways and try to do so many things on our own. We want to improve, but we don’t know exactly how aside from what we think might work. My friend had actually recommended me to set a pace and keep that the entire race, so that was the first 5K race I had done that. It worked and it was amazing!

If we trust God in life and let go of what we think are good ideas and trust His process and timing, amazing things happen! All weekend, I just kept thanking God for this opportunity and for what my friend had pushed me and encouraged me to do. I just couldn’t believe I had done that well and didn’t think I was capable of it quite yet.

We have to trust His process. We have to trust and let Him guide, even when it hurts and we don’t think we can finish. If I had run the race on my own, this would not have happened. I am grateful for my friend’s encouragement and I am grateful that God gave me the endurance to finish this well.

When life gets tough, trust in Him and His process.

ICE continues to arrest worst of the worst--one illegal with 21 criminal convictions

This disastrous invasion, resulting in so many crimes, is due to leaders who thought they were above the laws of our nation.
I'm bemused by these threads. They seem to pop up with a monotonous regularity, as if they are reporting on something surprising or newsworthy. It has me beat. So law enforcement are arresting people involved with violence and drugs. Gee, hold the front page again.

Are you aware that there are well over one million arrests each year for drug related offences: Drug Related Crime Statistics [2023]: Offenses Involving Drug Use. And you can bet your last dollar that some of those arrested will be immigrants, undocumented or not. And that's despite immigrants being one of the most law abiding groups you'll find in the good ol' US of A.

Violent criminals? That would be well over a million again (after hitting a high of close to 2 million in the early nineties: Topic: Violent crime in the U.S.

So I think that any thread worth its weight in newsworthiness would be one in which law enforcement didn't arrest anyone. Or, as is becoming something of a regularity, arrest and deport people without due process.

This'll be my first and last post in this thread (and others like them). I'd hate to be accused of encouraging a waste of good bandwidth.
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Anyone have good arguments against Calvinism.

Not yet brother. You are positionally there by virtue of the atonement, however, your sanctification which leads to glorification is a life long journey. You still sin. Don’t fool yourself that you don’t.
I disagree.
If the Lord's blood didn't sanctify me, then why was it shed ?
Why was blood sprinkled on the OT altars for their sanctification, if blood doesn't sanctify/cleanse ? (Lev 16:19)
Again, read the verses plainly without doing mental gymnastics. 1 John was written to the churches not to unbelievers. The purpose was to fight gnostic false teachers that taught docetism and cerinthianism. John was dispelling the false teachings and assuring the believers of their salvation. Those in darkness are the false teachers not the audience for this epistle.
I walk in the light, and 1 John 1:7 says the blood of Christ washes away ALL sin.
Of course it is incumbent on me to remain in the light-God in order to remain cleansed.

Do you walk in the darkness, or in the light ?
You cannot walk in both.
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Jewish Israel is a Misnomer

What I think is of no consequence.
What the Prophetic Word says is; that only a remnant of Jewish Israel will survive the forthcoming Day the Lord sends His fiery wrath.
As Isaiah 6:11-13 says; ...all that remains is a Holy seed. Ezekiel 21:1-7
So that's a yes then?

You may think you see that.

I don't think any of us are the better sinners

All or none
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Numbers 25:10-29:40 "Being Zealous for G-d" (Parasha "Pinchas")

PARASHA: “Pinchas” NUMBERS 25:10-29:40

This Torah portion starts with a somewhat surprising promotion in rank for an execution committed, and rather suddenly. Pinchas, the grandson of Aaron was a Levite, and during the time of the “weakness and falling away of the men of Israel, He took matters into his own hands, and slew Zimri and Cozbi, who were committing fornication in the sight of all Israel, yet Adonai rewarded him for this and gave him an “everlasting covenant of peace and an everlasting priesthood” because he was “Zealous” for his God, because he made an “atonement” for the Children of Israel”.

to understand this, we must go back to the story of "Balak". King Balak wanted Balaam to curse Israel, yet Adonai did not do this, as Adonai prohibited this. Adonai has already blessed Israel, and whoever Adonai has blessed, no one can curse. However, through the evil counsel of Bilaam, he let Balak know that the Israelites could bring a curse to themselves by going after the pagan gods of Moab and Midian, which would be through the enticing invitations of the women of Moab.

The Torah says that the Children of Israel went after the Moabite prostitutes and went to worship their god “Baal-Peor,” thus bringing down the wrath of YHVH. The result was a plague that killed 24,000 Israelites until Pinchas took action by taking a lance and thrusting it through the bellies of Zimri and Cozbi, thus “staying” the plague. As Adonai called it, “making an atonement for the children of Israel. "Blood for Blood." God gave Pinchas "A covenant of Peace." "Brit Shalom". What is interesting is that the "Vav" (or the letter "o") in the original Hebrew in the word "Shalom" is broken in half. What could this mean? One explanation is that Israel "Was" at peace before the Moabite women came to entice the men of Israel to go worship their gods, but the peace was "broken" through the worship of Baal and the fornication until Pinchas made "blood atonement."

Our Messiah Yeshua had never been separate from the love and fellowship of the Father, yet that "Shalom" was "broken" temporarily when he hung on that cross and bore our sins, as he cried "Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachtani" (My God, My God, why have you forsaken me)

Another thing we must remember is that we ALL have two natures, the “Yetzer Hara” (The evil inclination, or the sin nature) and the “Born again” spirit-filled nature that comes when we accept Yeshua as Messiah and LORD. Both live inside us, and something can “trigger” that old sinful nature and cause havoc and misery in our lives. In the case of the Israelite men, it was the arrival of the Midianite and Moabite prostitutes of Baal-Peor, and not only did they bring a curse upon the encampment of the Israelites, but they also brought death to 24,000 of the population.

Now, it seems like a large number, but if we realize that the Israelites probably numbered 2 or 3 million, then that number is quite small. We also need to realize that not ALL of Israel went after “Baal-Peor,” only the ones that went after the prostitutes. Yet the whole nation of Israel was affected. One can also ask a question: “Can one change his or her nature of being?” To answer this question, we need to look at a story.

A king once had two sons. To test them, he asked them that question. The first son said, “Yes, one can change his or her nature.” Yet the second son said, “No, one can never change his or her nature.

The king then said, “Go out and prove your statement; you have a week.” So, both sons went out, and after a week, they returned to the palace. The first son came near the king and queen with a large cloth bag. He put it on the floor, and out came a cat. The cat was dressed in fine linen and had a servant’s hat. The cat got up and walked on its two hind legs and lifted a small silver tray towards the king and queen. On the tray were two chocolates. The king and queen smiled and marveled at the cat and accepted the two chocolates. Everyone applauded! How wonderful!

The second son said, “Wait a minute.” He took a small cloth bag and emptied it on the floor, and out ran 5 mice. When the cat saw the mice, it dropped the tray and ran after the mice on all four paws. “You see,” said the son, “the cat went back to its old nature, it only needed a 'trigger”. You can dress a cat with fine clothes and teach it a few tricks, but it will always be a cat, and cats chase mice according to their feline nature.

We will always have our “old nature of sin” with us, and it will rear up its ugly head, as Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul) testifies in Romans 7:14-25. Only physical death will free us from the “old sin nature.” Every day, it is a constant battle. The spirit against the flesh and the flesh against the spirit.

Another Prophet who showed "Kana" (zeal) for God was Elijah, who slew the 450 prophets of Baal after God accepted the sacrifice on the altar, and all the people saw that. They were convinced, and many turned from Baal worship.

Later on, in this Parashah, we see that Moshe intercedes for Israel when Adonai tells him to go up Har Abiram and take a look around, because he will die there. Adonai appoints “Yehoshua” as Moshe’s successor to lead the people into the promised land. We see two leaders now, “Pinchas,” who is granted the title and inheritance of “High Priest” for his action, he symbolizes the “Kana” (Zeal) for Adonai, and Yehoshua, who is given the “Ruach Elohim” to lead the people. Yehoshua is the same as “Yeshua” for HE is the one who leads US in our lives today. Yeshua also showed “Kana” when he drove out the money changers in the temple, he used a bit of violence, yet not for “religious” reasons, but for the “love” of HIS father and for respect for HIS HOUSE. Today HIS HOUSE consists of all “Kehilot” (assemblies) of born-again believers all over the world, not buildings

There are other ways one can show “zeal” for YHVH today: loving His Torah, obeying his commandments, teaching His Word to those who would listen, loving our neighbors, supporting our local body of believers, and voting for government officials who also uphold biblical standards. Pointing out sinful ways to sinners (in a loving, not condemning way) and pointing them to a personal relationship with Yeshua, our Messiah.

Chapters 28 and 29 deals with the review of the sacrifices and offerings that the Israelites would offer to YHVH. Remember that they are about to cross over the Jordan to possess the promised land. There, they would be “permanent residents,” and the fight would continue to cast out the Canaanites (another reason for the census) to see how many “fighting men” the nation consisted of. Every element of the offerings and sacrifices illustrates who YESHUA is and what he stands for;

2 lambs per day, fine flour with oil; Yeshua, who is the Lamb of God, who is the BREAD of Life, who has the Ruach HaKodesh (The Holy Spirit) within him. The oil symbolizes the Spirit of Elohim, and the “anointing by the Spirit on ALL believers. Wine was also used to pour over the sacrifices; the “wine” symbolizes the blood of Yeshua that ran down the cross, out of his veins for an atonement for all who believe and accept his sacrifice for sin. Bullocks were also sacrificed; the bullock symbolizes “strength” as the ancient symbol of the letter “Alef” was in the form of a bull. Adonai is “strength,” yet he allowed himself to become “lower than the angels” to walk as a man and be a willing sacrifice for sin. The goats remind us of Yom Kippur, one was set free and the other sacrificed, reminding us that our sins were “cast away” from us as well as dealt with on the cross. The sacrificed rams remind us of the “ram” that was in the thicket when Abraham offered his son Isaac as a sacrifice. That ram was sacrificed instead of Isaac, just as Yeshua was offered as a blood sacrifice in our place.

The sacrifice of Yeshua was ALL SUFFICIENT, for ALL TIME. Nothing lacking. We need to accept HIS sacrifice and atonement for sin in THIS LIFE, because our decision in THIS LIFE will determine where we will spend our NEXT LIFE.

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Thank you for your thoughtful suggestions.

We are elderly. I'm 75, he 72.
You are still youngins, In Eden people lived for hundreds of years, Noah was around 500 when he was building the ARK.

The only thing I could think of is if there were problems in the church or not.
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Right, and you have your opinion about it and I have mine. What I object to is the naming of it. You call it free market capitalism when it is not. What you are describing is neoliberalism, to give it its correct technical name. If that is the economic system you favor, good for you. This is a free country and we can advocate for any economic system we want. The fact that you won't give it it's correct name is suspicious. The other thing which annoys me is that many proponents of neoliberalism promote it by quoting 2 Thessalonians on the subject of work, as if the "work" of the Bible is identical to the concept of employment in a neoliberal economy. This also makes me suspicious, as if we were being sold a pig in a poke.
Look i dont care what its called. I know what I support. No I'm not describing neoliberalism.

I support free market capitalism. Which involves not eating if you aren't producing something that other people want. Free market is I produce and you buy or produce something value I want. And I dont get to decide what its worth. Because if you dont think its worth that then you wont buy it and my work is now worth nothing if I get nothing.

If I need a worker then you and I can decide what your work is worth. If I make widgets and come in and say your work value is a million bucks I can say no its worth ten bucks then you can choose not to work for me ir I can choose to pay you a million.
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If there was anything against Trump in the Epstein files, it would have been leaked

Seriously - this guy makes me ill.

From whining and whining about "Obamna" (some mental health experts fear his slurred speech indicates accelerating dementia) stealing his election (are you sure Donald? Which one? Wasn't that Biden?) to "Obamna" inventing the Epstein files - NOW "Obamna" has the hide to commit TREASON.

Trump claimed the DOJ was politicized when they were just trying to follow the due process of the law in investigating HIS OWN DOCUMENTED and caught on tape interference with the 2020 elections. But then he installs his own "Belief Bureau" in charge of all the top Agencies and Bureaus in the land - and gets them to hold Voldemort like purges of any "Muggle-born" in their ranks!

What's the next diversion from the Epstein files? Start a war?
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Yes, you are correct, the bible's safety net I offered concentrates on God's people. While the poor will always be with us, should we even bother with helping those who are not God's people? Well, Peter did say silver and gold I have none but rise and be healed.. Based on that money does seem to be an option to help others, Give to them that ask, loving your neighbor are not just for Christians. It rains on the just and unjust, so there is a sort of common grace that God wants people to live. Christian charity also does glorify God. So I think an earlier post talked about government themselves boosting faith based giving, which is a great idea, I know that occurs in some ways in various state governments but yes hopefully we will see more of that.
Of course money is always an option. I dont carry a liaf of bread around with me. I don't believe we should only give to fellow church members either. We have helped neighbors and others who we knew were having a hard time with something.

But no where in scripture does it state thats our job to make sure no one is in poverty. And if we are going to claim scripture as a reason why our taxes should be high enough to make sure we have no poor in America then we should also follow scriptures that command us how to live in all facets of life including those who don't follow tge commands.

Its wrong for us to pick and choose which scriptures we should expect everyone to follow and be enforced by government.
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