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On the meaning and applicability of 1 Timothy 2:12-14

In regards to marriage this is what the bible says
Matthew 19: 1-9

When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

“Haven’t you read,” he replied,
“that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Becoming one flesh should not be taken lightly I think. This shows the significance of marriage and procreation. Its Gods creation and order. Its devine that two humans can become one flesh. Especially in an age where individual identity and rights rule above all else.
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Chicago’s low seminary numbers contrast with Tyler’s vocations record

It's absolutely unbelievable that the USCCB doesn't connect the dots here. I know Strickland isn't the head of the Tyler Diocese anymore but as far as I know his legacy is still at work there with it's love for tradition. I'd be curious to see the vocations numbers diocese like San Francisco, Portland, or Cincinnati where the prelates are known to be friends of tradition because I'm sure they'd bear out proof that men are not only properly exposed to the priesthood when they should be but they're recognizing their calls and pursuing it in diocese where Catholicism is Catholic.

Obviously nobody wants to be a priest under Cupich in a diocese where parishes like St John Cantius are punished and St Sabina is allowed to exist.
May God allow many more men to enter the priesthood throughout the Archdiocese of Chicago and bless us with many more holy priests and bishops. God's will be done!

Very well said, brother!
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Queen of the Silent Light

From what I can tell, it is based on/inspired by a prayer given by Bernard of Clirvaux in Dante Alighieri's famous poem The Divine Comedy (specifically, Paradiso Canto 33). So what it's based on isn't something from the actual Bernard of Clirvaux, but a prayer given by a fictional version of him... most specifically, based on the Longfellow English translation of the poem that is linked, from which various phrases are taken (e.g. "Thou Virgin Mother, daughter of thy Son" is directly from it, as is "The limit fixed of the eternal counsel") with others being very close ("thou art a noonday torch of charity" compared to "Thou art the noonday torch of charity").

Here's the full prayer from the start of Canto 33 for comparison:



I am not sure if the original poster made it themselves, or if it was someone else who did it--but it's very clearly based on the prayer from Paradiso Canto 33 (Longfellow English translation).
Thanks for the info!

Peace!

Edit: I've gotten it from Google, and it said the same thing.
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Being Right With God

What a heart and mind for the Word the Lord has given you!

I'm a senior, too, but even in my younger years I couldn't have retained and expressed the Word of God the way that you do. And what a gifting, that you were already committed to the Scriptures at the age of 16! Thank you for sharing your story. We've been talking some about 'ministry' here in this thread, God's calling, and how He works in our lives where we are called ... and your story gives testimony to how God can take a willing, committed heart and work thru it to bless others, while blessing us, too. He is a Great God! :heart:
mourningdove, thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful words of encouragement to me. God bless you! And all glory to God!!
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"Walking in The Spirit"

@David1701

Thanks, David.
And I especially appreciate these cautions:

Two things to avoid: legalism (trying to live by rules, regulations and principles, rather than by loving, trusting relationship with the Lord); and licence (allowing yourself things that are sinful, dubious, or go against your conscience; in fact, even apparently harmless pursuits can be deadening, if not led by the Lord).
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Eli Lilly sues COGIC board member, son, daughter over $200M rebate fraud scheme

The world’s most valuable pharmaceutical corporation has named Jerry L. Maynard Sr., a general board member of the Church of God in Christ and founder of Cathedral of Praise in Nashville, Tennessee, in a lawsuit accusing him, his son, his daughter and others of engaging in a rebate fraud scheme that allegedly robbed the company of more than $200 million.

In the 66-page complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida on May 19, Eli Lilly and Company accuses Maynard Sr.; his son, Jerry L. Maynard II, senior pastor of Cathedral of Praise; his daughter, Pastor Misha Maynard; and Readus C. Smith III, COGIC’s secretary-general of health and business, along with several other interrelated defendants, of defrauding the company “under the guise of a massive ‘prescription cost share program’ for members of the Church of God in Christ.”

According to Eli Lilly, the defendants purchased large quantities of the diabetes drug Trulicity through a pharmacy they operate in Florida and Tennessee, called DrugPlace, which purports to deliver medications by mail. The GLP-1 drug also causes weight loss similar to Ozempic.

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Pray that The Israelite nation upholds Godly judgements against Israel's own citizens, for example Itamar Ben-Gvir, who can themselves be wicked

Deuteronomy 4:1-6

4 “Now, O Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I am teaching you to perform,......................................more scripture...........more scripture..............more scripture.................5 “See, I have taught you statutes and judgments just as the Lord my God commanded me, that you should do thus in the land where you are entering to possess it. 6 So keep and do them, for that is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who will hear all these statutes and say, ‘Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.’

Pray that The Israelite nation upholds Godly judgements against Israel's own citizens, for example Itamar Ben-Gvir, who can themselves be wicked:

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The Sleep Trick That Actually Quiets a Racing Mind

I feel the same. I don’t have sleep apnea but I do get hot flashes which wake me up, and then my mind just races. I finally broke down and tried Moonbrew, even thought I thought it was a scam, but after just a few nights, I was back to sleep quickly after the hot flashes.
I’ll have to look into it! Thanks!
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Jesus gives everlasting life, eternal life, not temporary conditional life

a saved believer will not commit full blown apostasy (become Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, etc)
Subtle, that. Does that in lude all the varieties of Catholic, like Roman, Orthodox, Eastern, Anglo, etc? Or have you only cast your anathema over some of them who don't subscribe to whatever sects meet with your approval?

Must be nice to be your very own pontiff.
follow the voice of a stranger. John 10:5 you see these folks at church some times they come for a while the Holy Ghost is working, gospel is preached but then they go and join the Roman Catholic Church or something. well the bible says that person was never saved in the first place, never one time believed the gospel at any point.
Well, at least we knpw who the Real Christians are, right? <Laugh>
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OUR GOSPEL

Not the first Christian, Paul was first in the body of Christ
And in. 1. Tim 1:15 of whom. I am CHIEF is what some translation say ??

And the word say it. is CHIEF as the Greek word is PROTOS meaning FIRST >

And in 1 Tim 1:16. in. ORDER. THAT in. Me (. in the Greek means is EMPATIC. means ME , PAUL. and no one ELSE )

(. FIRST. PROTOS ). CHRIST JESUS might show forth all long-suffering. for a pattern. of. ones coming to believe on HIM

UNTO everlasting life. !!

And who was saved by grace first , it was b. Paul as in. Acts 9:5 Paul says LORD WHO are you ??

Notice he called JESUS LORD and in 1 Cor 12:3 No ne calls Jesus LORD , except. BY , HOLY SPIRIT !!

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NASA unveils ambitious $20 billion moon base strategy: "This time, the goal is to stay," NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman said.

We’ll see. There were grand plans in the 1960 that came to nothing, and grand programs canceled first under Nixon, then Obama. I often said that if NASA had a rocket that burned cheese, Senator Proxmire would have been one of space exploration’s biggest backers. Such is the way of things.

Back then, we had those who whined that this was too hard and those who were critical because they thought - or claimed- the money spent would have otherwise gone to their pet social programs. At least, that’s what they were selling.

The irony? If it was private industry doing this, there would be calls to shut them down Just Because. And that’s why we can’t have nice things.

THE NEW BIBLES PLACE JESUS IN DANGER OF HELL

[Matthew 5:22 KJV] "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
[Matthew 5:22 NIV] "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
[Mark 3:5 KJV] "And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched [it] out: and his hand was restored whole as the other." ********** The NIV removes "without a cause" from this verse. Jesus expressed anger and therefore would be in danger of hell fire according to the rendering of the NIV.
And you are JOKING , RIGHT ??

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NC Lt Gov Mark Robinson's Latest Issue

Mark Robinson admits ‘I lied’ about CNN story

Robinson initially denied the report and sued CNN for $50 million that fall as he marched on with his gubernatorial campaign. Robinson eventually lost to current Democratic Gov. Josh Stein by more than 14 points.
Now, in a recent podcast interview, Robinson has acknowledged his deception and that he had an “obsession” with pornography and sex. He says he lied about the CNN report to protect those around him, including President Donald Trump, because it was “the most expedient thing to do.”
After leaving office, Robinson dropped the defamation lawsuit against CNN and vowed to retire from politics.
IN addition to suing CNN, he also sued this guy, who wants to recoup the money he had to spend on lawyers against Robinson's phoney-baloney suit.

Former porn-shop worker wants Mark Robinson to pay legal costs for ‘political theater’ lawsuit

Louis Love Money told WRAL and other media outlets that he developed a friendship with former Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at an adult video store. Robinson sued Money for defamation but dropped his lawsuit after losing the 2024 election for governor.

Robinson used campaign donations to pay his legal bills for that lawsuit and dropped the complaint soon after losing the election to Democrat Josh Stein.

Earlier this year, Robinson went on a podcast and said that his previous denials weren’t entirely true, acknowledging an “obsession” with pornography in the past. “I won't say that I completely lied,” Robinson said of his denials during the 2024 race. “Some of the things about the whole story — there's some truth to it.”

Money says the comments on the podcast proves the claims he made all along: That he had told the truth about his relationship with Robinson, and that when Robinson sued him for defamation, he “abused the legal process” for political goals rather than legitimate legal claims.

During the election, Money’s band, Trailer Park Orchestra, released a song called “The Lt. Governor Owes Me Money” in which Money says he used to make bootleg porn videos for Robinson but that Robinson never paid for one.
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