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durangodawood · 2026-07-30T17:47:54-0500

HantsUK said:
But before getting too smug, how many African countries can you locate?

All the ones I need to before sending out material that makes me or my employer look like idiots. Just look at a proper map first!

That said, I did know right away that this image had most of the ones they named in the wrong place.

Aryeh Jay · 2026-07-30T17:45:23-0500

Belk said:
Can't expect the director of the FBI to know the law.

The FBI is the law.

Usingthisaccount123 · 2026-07-30T17:44:07-0500

John Bauer said:
What exactly do you mean by a “demonic attachment”? That is not a clear biblical category. It could mean anything from demonic oppression to haunting or even just recurring frightening thoughts.

As I see it, nothing you have described establishes that a demon is attached to you. Dreams commonly incorporate recent fears, images, conversations, grief, religious concerns, and material viewed online. Just because in a dream you were given a date for your death, that doesn’t somehow mean you will die on that date. It does, however, fit a pattern often depicted in paranormal thrillers (e.g., The Ring).

As you implied, demons do not determine when you will die, and a date given in a dream should not be treated as revealed knowledge about your death. Life and death are in God’s hands.

This is part of the security found in the Christian faith. Those who belong to Christ belong wholly to him; they are indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit and cannot also be possessed or claimed by demonic powers. Demonic opposition can occur, as the book of Job illustrates, but demons can do nothing apart from God’s permission and can go no farther than he allows.

Christians do suffer or experience fear, but they are never outside God’s sovereign rule, never abandoned to hostile spiritual powers, and never in danger of being separated from Christ. The answer to fear of demons is therefore not superstition or trying to decode dreams, but taking refuge in Christ.

When I say demonic attachment I don’t really believe in possessions at all or haunting (I think this can only happen when u perform rituals that invite demons), more like a spiritual attachment like my pastor says. Even when I was agnostic I had a feeling that watching paranormal stuff might draw negative attention but because I didnr experience anything weird at the time I kept going and I was entertained by them. I totally stopped viewing paranormal content a while ago cus of these dreams. I firmly believed that it was not just a case of “stress” because this happened a year after my psychotic episode and months after my grandfathers passing, had it been stress I would have had those dreams long before when I was actively watching paranormal content. Only when my mom became Christian I started having these “demonic“ dreams and even when my mom became Christian I kinda didn’t believe in it until I saw those 2 parallel bright lines mysteriously at night. And yes I’ve heard of stuff like those movies and “don’t look or watch (x) or you will be cursed” it’s been a big fear since I was young. So I think some tging was trying to drag me away from Jesus even if my faith wasn’t strong yet

Aryeh Jay · 2026-07-30T17:43:48-0500

Akita Suggagaki said:
When will this DJT nightmare be over? It is like a bad LSD trip and we can't seem to come out of it.

Once his mission here is finished.

ThatRobGuy · 2026-07-30T17:39:56-0500

DaisyDay said:
It's laughable. Squatters in my experience (I was on the board of a tenant-run building and my husband has owned buildings) usually move in as renters - they get keys and utilities - and then refuse to pay or move out. That's a lot easier than scouting an apartments on the third or fourth floor in otherwise occupied buildings, even modest brownstones where neighbors are very likely to know who does and doesn't belong. NY is pro-tenant, not pro-squatter, even if to the landlord there is little difference, in tenant court there is a huge difference.

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2026/03/05/nycha-has-a-squatter-problem-at-hundreds-of-units/

They couldn't even properly police it regarding units that were under the control of the city housing authority.

...and do you think Mamdani's administration would ever side with a rich person over a squatter? Unlikely.

tall73 · 2026-07-30T17:35:17-0500

Capbook2 said:
No familiarity of it doesn't necessarily mean unBiblical teaching.

Then by all means, get to the thread and start trying to figure it out so you can demonstrate it.

Unqualified · 2026-07-30T17:34:02-0500

LoricaLady said:
Oh, how wonderful that you wrote. I’m sure your letter meant the world to him. May you and yours be blessed as I have prayed.

wont it take forever to get to him?

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2026-07-30T17:18:49-0500

AV1611VET said:
From AI Overview:

And none of those are what Steve is talking about, especially, as I have pointed out at least three times now, whenever he has said advanced technology, he has refused to elaborate on what he means.

Also, the whole thing with 'stones so tight that a razor can't fit between them' is... what even is that? That's not 'advanced', that's basic stone masonry. You don't want loose stones in your wall!

AFrazier · 2026-07-30T17:16:25-0500

WilliamLhk said:
It was your demand that was childish. "Would you" works much better than "you'll have too." Basic etiquette.

All that you have provided is hearsay evidence. How many of these same scholars say that the Book of Daniel was not composed by Daniel? I would bet a lot of them.

You still have not responded to my twice-asked statement and question:

Please state for the record whether or not you believe that Jude was inspired by the Holy Spirit, or was deceived in what he wrote about the prophecy of Enoch.

Yes. I think Jude incorrectly used Enoch as Scripture when it is not. It was composed in the third century BCE. It was not composed by the actual Enoch. It is an apocryphal and pseudepigraphal text. Jude also cites the Assumption of Moses, which is likewise a first-century Jewish apocryphal and pseudepigraphal text. Should we count that as Scripture also? Being angry and trying to belittle me in your pedantry isn't going to get you anywhere. Calling me arrogant doesn't make you right.

In fact, if you can't discuss this in a civilized manner, I would ask you to please stop talking to me. I'm not your child. I'm not beneath you. Nor am I arrogant for insisting on proof of your assertions when they conflict with the work of actual, published scholars. If you have proper evidence that Enoch is a genuine Old Testament canonical work predating Moses, just show me the proof of that. Scholars date it to the third century BCE through a variety of academic disciplines. If you say otherwise, the burden of proof is on you. If you disagree with that, then you don't know how scholarship works.

Gunny · 2026-07-30T17:13:34-0500

2 Timothy 2:3-4 "Endure suffering along with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. Soldiers don't get tied up in the affairs of civilian life, for then they cannot please the officer who enlisted them."

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2026-07-30T17:08:19-0500

Gunny said:
During the shot years it appeared that individuals of certain political affiliations were more prone to receive the shot. Having worked for the government several years ago, It really solidified my mistrust of the government and career politicians.

Be Blessed, In Jesus's Name.

And that relates to the OP... how?

Gunny · 2026-07-30T17:02:51-0500

It's a blessing to have chickens.

Christsfreeservant · 2026-07-30T16:17:10-0500

Psalm 52:1-5 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

“1Why do you boast of evil, O mighty man?

The loving devotion of God endures all day long.

2Your tongue devises destruction

like a sharpened razor,

O worker of deceit.

3You love evil more than good,

falsehood more than speaking truth.

Selah

“4You love every word that devours,

O deceitful tongue.

5Surely God will bring you down to everlasting ruin;

He will snatch you up and tear you away from your tent;

He will uproot you from the land of the living.

Selah”

Those Who Boast of Evil

What does it look like if someone boasts of evil? It can mean to brag, to take pride in, or it can mean to put on display or to flaunt, to make it known to others. And that can be for various reasons, depending on the true intent of the hearts and minds of those who are putting their sins on display. For some, they may just want to brag about what they are getting away with because they take pride in the evil that they do. For others, they may be just wanting attention or the sympathies of others who may take pity on them.

But no matter the intent of the heart, which may be neither of the ones mentioned above, their sins are being put on display. And deceit is one of the aspects of the evil which they perform. And it is clear by their display that they love evil more than (or in place of) good, and they love speaking lies more than (or in place of) speaking the truth. And they could be lying about their sins and what they are actually doing, or about the degree of the sins, or about what leads them to sin or why they are still living in sin, etc.

Passing On The Blame

Some people, for whom sin is their practice, may speak lies about the cause of their sinful behaviors, perhaps to blame God or other humans for why they are on a sinful course, and/or for why they have not been delivered from their sinful course. For it is easier to cast the blame on God or on other humans rather than to take full responsibility for their sins themselves. For if they can put the blame on others for their failures then that relieves them of full responsibility for the evil that they do, which excuses them from fault.

But is it possible to be led into sin by other humans? Yes! The Scriptures cover the subject of those who deliberately, with full intention, lead other believers into sin, that they are committing a severe evil. But that does not relieve the one who sins of responsibility for their own sins. We all still have a choice to say “No!” or “Yes!” to sin. We all have a choice to say “No!” or “Yes!” to God. So both the one who leads the other to sin and the one who follows that lead into sin are guilty of sinning against God without excuse.

A “My Do It” Approach to Victory

There are some people who are captivated to sin who make many failed attempts at having victory over their sin because they take matters into their own hands, and they go at it the way that they choose rather than to follow the ways of the Lord and what the Scriptures teach is the road to victory over sin. And so victory over sin gets delayed because they keep trying in their own strength and according to their own decisions on how to go about this. For they let pride get in the way to having true victory.

And those who continue on this path, doing it their way, and not God’s way, they continue on a path of destruction, and so the same sins keep getting repeated over again. And if they do not change course, and if they do not yield to God’s control, and let go and let God, the ultimate end for them will be that they will be brought down to everlasting ruin, and their lives will be taken from them, and hell (not heaven) will be their eternal destiny because they loved their sins more than they loved God, and so they did not change.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 5:10,15,21; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

So, we all need to take this seriously. We cannot play with sin and think that God will be okay with that. He is not! Might we sin sometimes? It is possible (1 John 2:1-2). But if sin is what we practice, by habit, and not obedience to God, we will not have salvation from sin nor eternal life with God. By faith in Jesus Christ we all must deny self, die to sin, and obey God in life practice.

Tongues Which Devise Destruction
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Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

The Battle for Truth

Based off Malachi 1-4
An Original Work / May 18, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I love you. Honor me.
Tell the truth. You’ll be free.
Sing My praise all your days.
I will give all you need.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

Turn from sin; cleansed within.
Stand in awe of My Name.
Teach what’s true. Walk in peace.
Follow Christ, in His ways.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

Show to God faithfulness.
Do not be adult’rous.
Do not shed shallow tears.
Do not be insincere.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I have sent messengers,
Who have giv’n my address.
They call for repentance,
And they warn of judgment.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I, the Lord, do not change,
So return – blessings gain:
Healing comes; joyfulness;
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essentialsaltes · 2026-07-30T16:15:48-0500

Pommer said:
My economics foo is (admittedly) lacking but combined with the 3.5% inflation rate for June ‘26, wouldn’t this suggest that the economy is shrinking but inflation is keeping the numbers ticking upwards?

AIUI, GDP figures are reported in 'real dollars' so inflation has already been taken into account.

SabbathBlessings · 2026-07-30T16:11:06-0500

Minister Monardo said:
But there is no day of the week by which anyone can claim that they have
ceased from their own works. Your insinuation is baseless.

Yet God said there is, the same day He ceased from all His works, the seventh day, the Sabbath Exo20:10-11.

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

God never ceased from His works everyday, only the seventh day, it says it so plainly in this same passage.

Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

This is not one of those things that is baseless, this is God's own written and spoken Testimony Exo31:18 if we just believe God how God says it, mankind would be living how Jesus instructed us to, not by man, but by God Mat4:4

Why would we have rest for not doing what God says, thats unrest and we see clear examples of this directly with Sabbath keeping in Scripture. Eze20:15-16 Neh 13:17 Jer 17:27, Jer 52:13 why the everlasting gospel message is calling us back to worship our Creator, fear Him and keep His commandments- God’s version, not mans. Ecc12:13-14 Rev14:6-12

NxNW · 2026-07-30T16:10:14-0500

Aldebaran said:
He quotes someone as dismissing illegal votes as not being important enough to do anything about because there supposedly wasn't enough of them to change the results.

What illegal votes?

If there were illegal votes, you'd have convictions.

Aldebaran said:
However, when illegals vote it does sway the actual vote tally, and legal votes are cancelled out by the illegal votes.

No they aren't.

Aldebaran said:
For example, if I along with 399 other people vote for a conservative Candidate, and then there are 400 illegal votes being cast for the Liberal candidate, Then the conservative votes are canceled out. That should not be happening.

It's not.

Aldebaran said:
But to allow it is to say that not every vote needs to count. Allowing 400 illegal votes cancels out 400 legal votes, making them not count.
It's irrelevant whether or not it would have changed the outcome.

The 2000 election was decided by approximately that many mail-in ballots from overseas service members, even though such ballots are not postmarked with a date and were mailed late.

Conservative columnist George Will stated after the 2000 election that there's no point in arguing about discrepancies within the margin of error.

On what date did the conservative position change on that matter?

Aldebaran said:
In smaller communities, that many votes could easily change the outcome.
It's an issue that needs to be dealt with rather than dismissed.

You've yet to demonstrate there is an issue. How many convictions have been obtained (aside from the Trump administration's)?

Yarddog · 2026-07-30T16:09:43-0500

High Fidelity said:
He isn't at all being obtuse.

It's correct what he said that things said by establishment Democrats like Obama, Hilary and Bernie within the past 10-20 years would now be considered 'far-right' positions.

That is completely false. Nothing said by this trio would be "far right" positions today. Bernie is still far left and Obama and Hillary are still moderate Democrats.

Dan Perez · 2026-07-30T16:01:47-0500

#1. He THAT // HO. is a DEFINTE ARTICLE. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#2 BELIEVETH. // PISTEUO. in. the AORIST TENSE in. th ACTIVE VOICE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#4 IS BAPTIZED // BAPTIZO. in. the AORIST TENSE is a PARTICIPLE CASE is in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#5 SHALL BE SAVED //. SOZO. in. the FUTURE TENSE in. he PASSIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#6 BUT // DE. is a CONJUNTION

#7 BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT //. APISTEO. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#8 SHALL BE DAMNED // KATAKNO in. the FUTURE TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULR

What say you ??

dan p

Jan001 · 2026-07-30T16:00:49-0500

Brightfame52 said:
Jesus indicates Election of Some !

Election is perhaps the most despised Gospel doctrine in all the scripture. It magnifies the Sovereign Mercy of God in the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet Jesus who is the only way of Salvation indicates it especially in John's Gospel. Listen to John 6:37

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

The words of Christ here "All that the Father giveth to me" denotes certain ones had been given to Him by His Father !

John 17:2

As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

The words of Christ here "as many as thou hast given me" indicate only certain ones should He give eternal life to. Thats election .

Jesus Christ preached that obedience to God's commandments is necessary for salvation. Every Christian should believe him because God the Father appointed him to be our judge.

Matthew 19:17
So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

2 Thessalonians 1:8
in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:3-4
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Revelation 2:10
Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

Matthew 10:22
And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

Matthew 13:20-23
But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”

LoricaLady · 2026-07-30T15:57:00-0500

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Four Christians, including a former extremist, are in hiding after being harassed. As a young man, Mukesh joined a Hindu extremist group but became interested in dating a Christian woman who shared the gospel with him. After he placed his trust in Christ, they married and began a church that grew to more than 60 Christians. In 2025, Mukesh, his wife and two associates were returning home from a ministry trip when three vehicles followed them. The men in the vehicles were armed with bamboo sticks and forced the four to stop, accusing Mukesh of changing the religion of other men and harassing Mukesh's wife. Read More.
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[9] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Churches in DRC.

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Jipsah · 2026-07-30T15:49:13-0500

DennisF said:
How do you know I'm guessing

Unless you've had some kind of personal revelation, or some other source of arcane information, you're guessing.

DennisF said:
and how do you know it is not better than yours?

No reason to believe it is.

DennisF said:
Egad, there is much physical detail not given in scripture about most events.

DennisF said:
Elijah was taken up into the sky by a vehicle described as what today would be a rocket ship.

Yeah, chariots of rire drawn by horses of fire could easily be mistaken for Saturn V boosted rocket.

DennisF said:
Jesus, according to Luke "was taken up".

Yeah, had to be spacemen in flying saucers.

DennisF said:
The vehicle was not described

ButI'll bet you're certain it looked just like whatever you reckon a 1st century spaceship would have loked like.

DennisF said:
but he did not ascend like a Hindu guru from a children's illustrated Bible story book

Does that happen often in illustrated in books of children;s Bible stories?

DennisF said:
; unless you believe the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi about levitation

I'm not familiar with the Yogi's opinion on much of anything; due to lack of interest.

DennisF said:
, you would have to conclude that some physical conveyance was involved

Because what else could it have been, right?

DennisF said:
and that to do what it did would be more advanced than what the present state of aerospace engineering can do. How would such a vehicle be described?

Something out of "Ancient Astronuts"? I mean, that's even on teevee.

DennisF said:
You are weak on support of your claims so let me help you a bit.

That's OK, I've heard the "Their Powers Are Beyond Our Understanding" ad nauseum from Flying Saucer enthusiasts.

DennisF said:
The first time the official U.S. govt (USG) report on UFOs/UAPs was published as Project Blue Book in the late 1950s, it was stated that of the thousands of evidentiary sources examined, only a small fraction could not be explained. (Though small in fraction, it was still large in number.) So you might have that kind of support for your unsupported claim.

Or I might have a more than passing knoedge of how things work, and litle inclination to "explain" things ine terms of superstitous blatherskite. Your mileage seems to vary.

DennisF said:
Given your sparse support in wafting out your opinions, I can well imagine that you might.

I do have to give you points for imagination.

DennisF said:
So why are your even responding here? And why pick on "folks"? Why not try us engineers instead?

BS in Electrical Engineering from Tennessee Tech, Class of 75. Y tu? A doctorate in Crypto Engineering, your dissertation being on "How To Negate the Laws of Physics", perhaps

DennisF said:
Why should we believe you?

I've have though an old engineer like you would have understood what I was talking about. Are you a Civil Engineer, perhaps?

DennisF said:
Given what you have stated thus far, your opinion is uninformed about aerospace technology.

DennisF said:
Really? Help me, then, what aeronatucal engineering principles allow alow an aircraft to acceleate from a dead stop to, what was it, 45K mph, was it? , flash away below the horizon, stop, turn 180 drgrees, return to roughly its original position, where it again stopped. I'm keen to her how that works; that's pretty impressive stuff. Onliest way I know to do that is for the "object" to be completely massless, and frictionless. Once again, I'm keen to hear your "explantion".
One of yours? Not one of mine.

And what of the category of persons who have no vested interest in a particular outcome

But it;s actually a matter of faith for the Flying Saucer Faithful, isn't it? Y'all know there are magic spacemen driving physics defying flying saucers who can do anything.

DennisF said:
but who know enough physics to know that there is no human explanation for the observed motion unless some secret advanced technology is involved.

Or unless the "object" in question is massless. Your grasp of Physics should be sufficient to understand that. And you should still retain enough of your engineering education to acknowledge that the ability to "defy the laws of Physics" is, for all practicle purposes, non-existent for anything possessing mass. Barring magic, of course, which I do. If youare ready to invoke magic as an "explanation" of anything, then we have nothing to talk about, You're free to just make up rules as you go.

DennisF said:
But you wouldn't want that, would you?

Dunno. I think that Doc Smoth's "Beigenholm Converter" was an elegant solutiuon to interstellar flight. It simply negated inertia in the vessel when it was "free", and restored it (at it's intrinsic velocty) when "inert".
It gave the story a more "realistic" feel than just invoking magic.

Gunny · 2026-07-30T15:39:46-0500

Hamlowe said:
Gonna quote and concur on the sentiment herein expressed. I feel a bit bad for turning this into a thread disputing the rapture as a doctrine when I think the sentiment OP is expressing goes beyond that. God created us to know, love, and serve Him here, and then be happy with Him in Heaven. The hard work of our sanctification is here, on Earth--Heaven is the goal.

Amen and Amen!

keras · 2026-07-30T15:39:38-0500

bling said:
What is man's earthly objective? (Why did God make humans in the first place?)

God made the universe and humans to populate the earth; because He could.

But the basic reason is; that God needed some witnesses with free will, to confirm His Judgment on Lucifer, [Satan] who rebelled against God.
As a righteous God, He could not just arbitrarily dispose of those who rebel, but He has allowed Satan to try his way with mankind, in order to give people a choice for their lives.

As Christians, our task today is to continue on with the Great Commission and to stand firm in our faith thru whatever happens.

tall73 · 2026-07-30T15:39:17-0500

Three quotes from the article:

Ellen White was also much interested in this question. Twice in early visions of Jesus, she asked Him questions related to the “form” and“person” of God. In one early vision, she reported seeing “a throne, and on it sat the Father and the Son. I gazed on Jesus’ countenance,” she said, “and admired His lovely person. The Father’s person I could not behold, for a cloud of glorious light covered Him. I asked Jesus if His Father had a form like Himself. He said He had, but I could not behold it, for said He, ‘If you should once behold the glory of His person, you would cease to exist.’”

In 1850 she reported, “I have often seen the lovely Jesus, that He is a person. I asked Him if His Father was a person and had a form like Himself. Said Jesus, ‘I am in the express image of My Father’s person.’” Thus her visions confirmed what her husband had written in 1846, that the Father and the Son are “two distinct, literal, tangible persons.”32 The visions also disproved, to her mind, the claim of the Methodist creed that God is “without body or parts.”

In the 1890s, when she become convinced of the individuality and personhood of the Holy Spirit, she referred to the Holy Spirit in literal and tangible terms much like those she had used in 1850 to describe the Father and the Son. For instance, addressing the church at Avondale College in 1899, she declared, “the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as

God is a person, is walking through these grounds, unseen by human eyes . . . . He hears every word we utter and knows every thought of the mind.”

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