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Confused-by-christianity · 2026-06-14T07:58:55-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
OP made clear at the beginning that this wasn’t about “southern Christians” vs other Christians. The southeast just happens to have a higher density of self-proclaimed Christians.

ok.

Is iluvatar a reference to Tolkien??

Maine Progressive said:
... ... ...

ok.

Servus · 2026-06-14T07:54:30-0500

iluvatar5150 said:
Is it really so hard to follow the conversation? I realize that sometimes I’m not as clear as I think I am, but I didn’t think that was the case here. Let’s try this again;

MAGA charged that Joe Biden was corrupt because he and Hunter were leveraging Joe’s position to get deals and enrich themselves. In reality, Hunter may have used his name to get deals, but there was never any evidence that Joe was a part of it or got anything from it.

Trump comes along and starts personally selling merch for events that he’s using his official position to stage. That’s in addition to all of the licensing deals into which his family is entering in countries that are vying for various diplomatic deals. He’s very openly doing all of the stuff that he and his acolytes accused the Bidens of doing and none of them even notice the contradiction, much less care about it.

It being whataboutism is obvious. But it falls flat. Because Trump has be hawking things for decades. Trump is also the name of a multi-billion dollar business. There's nothing remotely new about this. It's just the latest out of umpteen ventures.

Also why would anyone expect Party A to measure Party A by the same standard it measures Party B? How often has that ever happened in politics?

What about when primary candidate A goes on about how incompetent and corrupt candidate B is. But after candidate B wins the primary, candidate A gives their full endorsement and support to candidate B.

RileyG · 2026-06-14T07:53:52-0500

I know someone who has it as well as Lyme disease! It sounds horrifying!

RileyG · 2026-06-14T07:53:00-0500

Michie said:
It’s clear but I think it makes no sense. Anything that is a sin has moral aspects to it that are worth discussing. It’s like saying you cannot discuss the morality of adultery, lying, fornication, stealing. Etc. I asked my priest about it and was told any active sin is a moral issue.

Ok.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

God bless

Bob Crowley · 2026-06-14T07:51:39-0500

I have an issue with the business of predestination. I don't know the answer but due to personal experience it makes me uncomfortable.

I've maintained for years that the night my father died he appeared in my room. At the very end he gave this terrifying scream and disappeared. It was more than just a scream. He was terrified to the core and it was obvious something was coming for him.

But during the preceding conversation he blurted out at one stage "I always was doomed! I didn't really have any choice!"

I was an atheist at the time but I answered back "That can't be right!" (in the sense of being fair and just). He replied "Oh, it's right all right. You can see that from here!".

"Here" in his case was, I think, standing in front of the judgement seat. I couldn't see it and whenever I turned around all I could see was the wall behind me. If I had been able to see it, I'd have died myself since "No man can see my face and live" as God said to Moses.

But my father was already dead having died that night.

Later in the conversation he admitted "I was willing!" (to act in the cruel, stupid, bad-tempered and vindictive way he did and to keep doing it all his married life).

Now he died in January 1979. Going back a few years, I had a "vision" one night where "somebody" said "I've had enough of him! He's doomed! All he's done all your life is to ridicule you! .... He's only got about five years left to live!"

That would have been in early 1974 because late that year I moved to Perth, came back in 1977, he kicked me out of the house in January 1978, and about a year later he died in January 1979 - "about five years later".

Then we have Christ's comment about Judas Iscariot -

NIV John 17:12 "While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled."

Even in the case of Pharaoh, I think we read "... and Pharaoh hardened his heart" for the first nine plagues. But for the tenth we read "God hardened his heart". Perhaps God had gotten to the point where He might have said to Moses "I've had enough of him.... he's doomed!"

I don't like it. But I have a suspicion there's more to predestination than we might want to think. In contrast to that we have the parable of the prodigal son in which the sinner is welcomed home to the resentment of the obedient son.

I don't know the full answer. As my father also said the night he died "It wasn't easy for me either you know. And I never had a chance to see anything like this!"

Maine Progressive · 2026-06-14T07:48:38-0500

Servus said:
Why not just articulate what you have to say in plain english instead of doing the cryptic thingy.

And at your listed age you've been hearing that the economy is on the verge of collapse and other forebodings of doom for the last 60 years.

Because that way I can be fairly accused of being cryptic instead of being falsely and rudely accused of being socialist or communist. And as you have been hearing that the American Dream is on the verge of being fulfilled for the last 60 years.

John Bauer · 2026-06-14T07:47:56-0500

BNR32FAN said:
I haven’t paid much attention to which forum I’ve been in but I would say that from what I’ve seen there does seem to be more evolutionists in CF than creationists.

There are lots of creationists here. It's just that their fellow Christians define them out of existence, like the opening post did. I am an old-earth creationist who accepts evolutionary biology. Let me repeat that: I am an old-earth creationist.

But many people define creationism in young-earth terms, effectively defining old-earthers like me out of existence.

Stopped_lurking · 2026-06-14T07:40:26-0500

Tuur said:
There's this resource:

https://www.energy.gov/cmei/systems/windexchange/maps-and-data

Along the east coast off-shore wind turbines look feasible (or perhaps even suitable), the average wind speeds are very good and it doesn't get too deep too fast. The depths increase much faster on the west coast but there it looks like you can build coastal based instead, without any big loss in average wind speeds.

For the Great plains I looked at Nebraska, they seem to have quite good wind conditions for land based installations.

Tuur said:
I have seen functioning windmill powered pumps, and they worked through the use of a huge water tank on the tower. That did two things: Use gravity to provide water pressure and allowed enough water to be captured prior to use that you didn't have to worry about running out if the wind wasn't blowing or not blowing hard. Otherwise, you run into what one peach packer did that used a windmill powered conveyor belt: When the wind barely blew it was useless; when it blew too hard, it was like that Lucile Ball skit with her and Vivian Vance working a high-speed conveyor belt in a chocolate factory. Yes, the wind powered conveyor belt really happened. Energy storage does much the same thing as that huge water tank on the old wind powered water pumps.

I'm talking about large wind power projects where you integrate them with existing power grids, Denmark produces ~60% of their electrical power from wind, the next big contributor for them is waste heat (from district heating by biomass) and bio-energy. No nuclear, coal or natural gas. From time to time they can say that they are 100% carbon-neutral, so they beat us (Sweden) to it

(j/k)

We still have a 660 MW oil fired powerplant left (with some gas turbines), but it only runs if necessary. Still we can't say we our electricity production is carbon-neutral (we are 98-99% carbon neutral).

Tuur said:
I don't think dual reservoir systems have been built as much as they could but there we run into public opposition. The first is the same that's led to the decommissioning of dams in places in the US. The second is fish kills. Utilities typically sell large reservoir projects as providing a place for recreation, including fishing. There was one such energy storage project in the SE US that I recall precisely because, with all the reporters and TV news crews assembled for the ceremony to officially put it online, the water turned red right in front of the cameras. A school of fish happened to get pulled into it and pureed. Public relations disaster. I really think that was behind that utility abandoning another such project, which was purchased and completed by another utility. But it's interesting to note that that other utility, to the best of my knowledge, never built another.

Gas powered peaking stations are typically used to tide over utilities during times of high demands and as a fall back. That's what was built by our power supplier while we were running those great big portable diesel generators to get through peak use. Those turbines can spin up very quickly. They are also noisy and there has been some public opposition because of it. The biggest opposition has been that they use fossil fuels and produce greenhouse gasses. That there might not be a better option doesn't get considered. If the goal is to reduce greenhouse gasses, then building gas powered peaking stations for standby for wind and solar is a big help. It's not like zero emissions but it's less than what we'd have otherwise.

Tell them you can run them on HVO or biogas. If they are only used sparingly the extra cost becomes negligible or very small. With a properly diversified power grid both in terms of sources and geography (in the north-south direction, east-west might be harder due to the long distances) they should only be needed in the most extreme circumstances.

Tuur said:
My favorite is nuclear, which gives some the heebie-jeebies, but when in operation doesn't produce greenhouse gasses at all. Note that this often seems to be off-the-table due to issues like disposing of nuclear waste. That leads to the question of which do we want less? Greenhouse gasses or nuclear waste? There's seldom perfect solutions.

New nuclear plants are very slow to be built.

The US is a gigantic country so there are bound to be different solutions that suit its parts differently well.

I went and checked, right now we import a small amount of power (first picture) because Poland and Germany have some excess capacity (we save money by using theirs instead). We can do this because we have so much "easily" controlled hydroelectric capacity.

Kärnkraft - nuclear power
Vattenkraft - hydroelectric (lit. water power)
Vindkraft - wind power
Ospecificerat - unspecified (mostly solar)

Delvianna · 2026-06-14T07:37:58-0500

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reddogs · 2026-06-14T07:29:46-0500

The Liturgist said:
This argument, aside from being irrelevant to me personally (since I am not Roman Catholic) is also logically fallacious and entirely invalid.

The two logical fallacies you are engaging in are the equivocation fallacy (which is where one makes an argument based on a word meaning two different things; since Ishtar was a sex and fertility goddess and the Blessed Virgin Mary very obviously is not, the argument accusing Catholics of Ishtar worship fails for the same logical reason that it would be illogical to criticize an airline pilot for his lack of knowledge of harbor conditions (or indeed to criticize a pilot in one body of water for a lack of knowledge of pilotage such as the location of reefs, tidal conditions et cetera in another body of water). For that matter I suppose we could get on the case of NASA space shuttle pilots since very frequently the actual landing was performed by the Commander with the pilot acting in a monitoring role rather than vice versa. In all cases we would be engaging in the equivalence fallacy.

The more severe fallacy is called “the genetic fallacy” and has nothing to do with the human genome or genetics, but rather refers to the older meaning of the word, in the sense of origins - it is the fallacy that because a word originally meant X, people using that word must still mean what it originally meant. To which I would note this would create rather an awkward problem for many Adventists who refer to the Sabbath for clarity of communications as Saturday since Saturday is of course the Pagan name for that day (which Rome suppressed in the Latin language but was unable to do so in the English language); obviously no one would accuse Christians who use the word “Saturday” of engaging in Saturn-worship.

The idea that Roman Catholics are engaing in Ishtar worship is quite literally absurd, and astonishingly offensive. But let’s not take my word for it, I propose we ask them - @Xeno.of.athens @Michie @chevyontheriver @Valletta - would I be correct in assuming you regard the attempted insinuation that the use of the title “Queen of Heaven” in the beautiful Gregorian chant “Ave Regina Caelorum” (“Hail heavenly Queen”) has anything to do with Ishtar? Because I find it offensive, as I have sung that hymn with my Roman Catholic friends in veneration of Our Glorious Lady Theotokos and Ever Virgin Mary, the Mother of God.

Also the Adventist argument ignores a very elegant bit of Roman Catholic theology, which I found out about through use of Google’s AI (in conformity with the site rules I am declaring the following text came from Google Gemini):

“The Biblical Context of the Catholic Title

Roman Catholics do not pull the title out of ancient paganism; rather, they derive it from biblical theology regarding the Davidic Monarchy.

In the ancient Kingdom of Israel, the queen was not the king's wife (since kings had many wives), but rather the king's mother. This office was known as the Gebirah (the "Great Lady" or Queen Mother). As seen with King Solomon and his mother Bathsheba in 1 Kings 2:19-20, the Queen Mother held a throne at the king's right hand and acted as a powerful advocate for the people.
Because Christians believe Jesus is the ultimate King of the Line of David, his mother, Mary, naturally fulfills the prophetic role of the Gebirah. Since Jesus' kingdom is the Kingdom of Heaven, His mother is honored as the Queen Mother of Heaven. Furthermore, Catholics point to Revelation 12:1, which describes "a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars," giving birth to the Messiah, as a scriptural image of this heavenly queenship.”

Assuming that Gemini is correct, which I regard as a safe assumption, this is theologically elegant and appropriate to the person of our Lady, the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Unfortunately I suspect that no matter how emphatically we declare this we will still be falsely accused of engaging in pagan worship by some, despite the fact that we in no respect, either Orthodox or Catholic, or Protestants who venerate the Theotokos such as Martin Luther, had any interest or intent to worship anyone other than God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and in particular no interest in worshipping a pagan fertility goddess, and the criticism is therefore not only logically fallacious and historically inaccurate but grossly offensive. Thus while we Eastern Orthodox do not refer to the Theotokos as the Queen of Heaven in our hymns, this is not for dogmatic reasons, and I see no dogmatic issue with referring to her such, so I will continue to sing “Hail Heavenly Queen” in solidarity with my Roman Catholic friends.

I should add we might use that hymn in Western Rite Orthodoxy, I don’t know, to be clear, but I do know several other Western hymns such as Agnus Dei and Gloria In Excelsis Deo are used in the Western Rite (I particularly like that our Western Rite uses the hymn Agnus Dei, which was included in the mass in defiance of the Byzantine Church during a low period in our history, in the aftermath of the Quinisext Council, where some Patriarchs of Constantinople tried to impose that council on the Church of Rome and tried to argue that its prohibition against iconographical depictions of Christ as a lamb precluded the use of language which is absolutely scriptural and found in the Apocalypse, thus Agnus Dei was properly added to the Roman Mass as a means of telling us off, and with justification. This was around the same time the future Pope St. Gregory the Great, who is venerated with great importance by the Eastern Orthodox was disputing one of our Patriarchs who was making the embarassingly Docetic claim that in His resurrection Christ’s body lacked physicality, which is so wrong it makes me want to cry - fortunately St. Gregory won the argument and teaching was precluded among the Orthodox. He then composed the Presanctified Liturgy you use on Good Friday and that we use on weekdays in Lent and Holy Week and introduced the Gregorian system of chant among other elegant liturgical reforms, and also saved the people of Rome from starving after the civil government collapsed, and also sent St. Augustine of Canterbury to England to evangelize the Angles, a Nordic tribe from the region of Denmark known as Anglia, who had conquered Brittania (and would be followed by the Jutes from Jutland, also in Denmark, and the Saxons, hence the phrase Anglo-Saxon, then the actual Danes from Copenhagen, Zeeland and adjacent islands, who founded Jarvik, now known as York, which I have been blessed to visit (actually I visited York and Canterbury on the same day in 2002).

Yes, history is such a illogical and untenable narrative, but is it true. That is the question which one must search for and find as we know the axiom for those who set it aside... 'Those Who Cannot Remember the Past Are Condemned To Repeat It'

FredVB · 2026-06-14T07:04:56-0500

FredVB said:
We are in a biological family with greater apes, the way the biological family is defined recently, but having enough in common with them does not mean that we share any biological ancestors rather than having the Creator who designed us in common. The Bible isn't disproven, all creatures have design from the Creator they have in common being shown in the Bible. The earth itself may be millions of years old, more or less, but the Bible shows that all life on it is descended from the creatures, including the humans, in the six days of God's creation shown at its beginning. So what older earth there would have been, from what the Bible shows, must have been with it being the formless earth that there was before the six days of creation from which all life is descended. And the seventh day then was the first Sabbath.

I have no reason to think the Bible account is wrong at all with the earth being so old, from when God made it and anything to start with, but it was not with life on it then, and remained formless, without the design God provided on this chosen planet, until the six days in the creation week, with life made with all life in this world after that descending from that. And the first Sabbath came in that seventh day with all other days of the Sabbath, every seventh day, for our rest, based on that.

Pioneer3mm · 2026-06-14T06:55:33-0500

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iluvatar5150 · 2026-06-14T06:20:21-0500

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
He's sexual pervert/pedofile, that may have raped teenagers girls. He admitted to sexting them. Like it's no big deal. I thought sexting underage girls was against the law. Sexting means sex talking, touching private parts, encouraging the teenager to do the same thing. And exchanging pictures of each other. Usually private parts. Taking pictures of underage kids and teens is against the law. I hope his victims come forward. So he can be prosecuted.

Where have you seen anything about underage girls or rape? All I’ve seen are claims that he was rough with some of his girlfriends.

lucypevensie · 2026-06-14T06:14:31-0500

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johnnypapa · 2026-06-14T06:04:35-0500

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johnnypapa · 2026-06-14T05:52:36-0500

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stevevw · 2026-06-14T05:42:42-0500

Dave... said:
What do you think of this statement that I found browsing the net?

"The root of every sin is a breaking of the first commandment"

Yes I think so. Thats why its number 1. It also relates to the greatest commandment to love God with all your heart and strength. This is not so much a commandment but an appeal. The spirit of the first commandment. That whatever is in your heart that you make God is what you will be and become. Is also the root of all evil in that it begins in the heart. Christ mentions this as being the fullfillmnt of the law.

I think it also relates to hierarchy. Who is the ultimate lord of this world and the universe. Many gods and truths are claimed as the one true way to enlightenment and salvation. But it is in the nature of truth and reality that there can only be one God and truth in Christ.

Satan rebels against this and wanted to be God. Wanted to be the god of the world. He put the idea in minds of Adam and Eve to disobey God so they could be like Him.

That why God made the 1st commandment as He knew that there would be many false gods and idols that were competing for devotion. As God was the one true God it makes sense that this be a commandment for our own good. Whatever you make your god is what you become.

Dave... said:
I only have one distinction to categories my thoughts in this matter.

Pre-made. This is a person suppressing the truth in unrighteousness and heaping up for himself false teachers who tell him what his itching ears want to hear. This is a idol that was made to appeal to the flesh and attract the masses.

Thats why I think it begins with the 1st commandment and its fullfillment in the greatest commandment. Which leads to the 2nd greatest commandment.

Because if you begin with the one true God it leads to the keeping of the commandments and to Christs fullfillment as God promised. The foundation is God and the fruits are obedience to God in keeping the rest of the commandments. Which naturally leads to Christ.

But if you place false gods and idols as the basis for your devotion and worship then you are subject to this. Whatever that may entail. Much of the time with pagan gods and idols or with money and materialism or with science and tech and even worshipping other humans as the pharoahs did. This is usually based around making human desires and the flesh gods and idols.

Its a backdoor way to worshipping the world and self as god.

I think the main reason why God is resisted is because people have to give up the idea of self as the god of their own life and world. Bowing down to someone else as God. Due to our fallen nature we inherently rebel against God. Because satan wants to be God.

Dave... said:
Custom made idols. These I would define as a person making a god in his own image. Making Him as he wants Him to be, and not trusting and loving Him as He is, even if we don't understand everything to get a clear picture of Him. This is a person who plucks out from Scripture all the things that he doesn't want, and replaces that with his own wants, thus creating a god in his own image.

Is all sin idolatry? Is it all motivated by the breaking of the first commandment?

Thoughts?

Your are right that we humans tend to make what we want into gods and idols. Its sort of a justification for allowing sin that we make it a god or something worthy of worshipping. Money is a good example. Many don't even realise we are slaves to money. When God said he would give us all we need.

The hardest thing I think is that in todays world it is full of false gods and idols that make people happy and give pleasure and that this has been made to be a good thing. A measure of what is moral and something that should be aspired to. Its a bot like how 'pride' has become a virtue. Which is basically the worship of self and others.

Xeno.of.athens · 2026-06-14T05:35:23-0500

Blueprints said:
Already did that - Do the holy scriptures teach or imply that space aliens exist?

Blueprints said:
Yes. See previous and original reply and linked materials.

As much as I would like to work through your posts in detail and address the issues of logic and interpretation, I think it is wiser for me to step back at this point, as further engagement would be time‑consuming and unlikely to be fruitful for either of us.

johnnypapa · 2026-06-14T05:21:34-0500

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johnnypapa · 2026-06-14T05:19:55-0500

Ave, María, grátia plena,
Dóminus tecum.
Benedicta tu in muliéribus,
et benedíctus fructus ventris
tui, Iesus.
Sancta María, Mater Dei,
ora pro nobis peccatoribus
nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.
Amen.

rachelrising · 2026-06-14T05:18:53-0500

I am not sure what is going on with you and your mother. I think perhaps both of you need to sit down and you should ask her what she finds difficult with you living at home. Perhaps her telling you to wash the floor she meant to just dry it up after yourself with a towel. May be you need some clarification about what she means. There should be a set time for house work.

Xeno.of.athens · 2026-06-14T05:16:50-0500

Several posts in the thread strongly imply that the seventh‑day Sabbath is a universally binding moral law, which in Seventh‑day Adventist theology makes it a salvation‑related issue even if the poster never states this outright. In Post #3, the SDA participant argues that none of the Ten Commandments have been changed, that God “sanctified the seventh day,” and that Isaiah 66:23 proves Sabbath‑keeping continues into the New Earth - a classic SDA doctrinal framework in which rejecting the Sabbath is rejecting God’s eternal moral standard. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

The implication becomes clearer in Post #7, where he explicitly states that the Sabbath is moral law, not ceremonial, and is binding on “all mankind,” again citing Isaiah 66:23 as proof that Sabbath observance is eternal. In the same post, he adds that “tradition came along and edited the moral law of God,” which in SDA theology is the foundation for the claim that Sunday observance is a human corruption of divine law - the very logic behind the SDA teaching that the end‑time “remnant” are those who keep the seventh‑day Sabbath. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

The observation in Post #12 accurately identifies the implication: that some SDAs on CF treat seventh‑day Sabbath observance as a marker of who is saved and who is not. While the SDA poster avoids explicitly saying “non‑Sabbath‑keepers are not saved,” the combination of claims - Sabbath as eternal moral law, binding on all humanity, unchanged in the New Covenant, and contrasted with “tradition” that edits God’s law - is the standard SDA doctrinal structure that leads to the conclusion that rejecting the Sabbath is ultimately a salvation issue. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

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