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School officials sued after male trans wrestler accused of sexually assaulting female opponent

This would have been prevented from happening if girls and women were being protected from biological males competing as females.
No, that would not have prevented this.

For one thing, grabs like this happen accidentally in grappling sports all the time. Second, “oil checks” are sort of a running joke in some circles and happen on purpose between opponents of the same birth sex.
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Solar generates more energy than coal in US for 1st time: Report

"given enough time and economic desperation, it will come."
Yes, but I want things being in place an,d running before the situation becomes desperate.
The scientific world has been warning for this at least since the 80's, but politics remained deaf.
Trump is even rewinding the little efforts that have been done.
Sigh.

Trump, Trump, Trump. There needs to be a separate discussion area where people can go to just type "Trump." It wasn't Trump who had the "bright" idea of zero emissions. It wasn't Trump who pushed load deferment, then load deferment and purchasing power elsewhere as a means of not having to build new generation. Good flipping grief. We were looking at rolling blackouts before Trump ever thought about running for office.

If this nation thinks it can go to zero emissions with what we have now, it's going to be sitting in the dark. Period. You want renewables? Fine. Require energy storage for the same capacity, or keep standby fossil fuel powered generation to get you through the shortfalls. But that's the common sense solution, so it won't happen.
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Scandal-plagued Graham Platner clinches Dem Maine Senate primary: ‘I’ve made mistakes’

He's sexual pervert/pedofile, that may have raped teenagers girls. He admitted to sexting them. Like it's no big deal. I thought sexting underage girls was against the law. Sexting means sex talking, touching private parts, encouraging the teenager to do the same thing. And exchanging pictures of each other. Usually private parts. Taking pictures of underage kids and teens is against the law. I hope his victims come forward. So he can be prosecuted.
Where have you seen anything about underage girls or rape? All I’ve seen are claims that he was rough with some of his girlfriends.
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Devotion for June – The Month of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus

The Sacred Heart of Jesus – Short Meditations for June. June 14 — The Chief Desires of the Sacred Heart

Day 14: What Breaks the Heart of Christ

The Church teaches that the sorrow of the Sacred Heart is not weakness, despair, or defeat. It is the sorrow of Divine Love confronted by sin, indifference, and ingratitude.

In this catechetical Short, we examine the traditional doctrine of the Sacred Heart, the mystery of the Incarnation, the reality of human rejection of grace, and the mercy of Christ that never ceases to seek sinners.

The Sacred Heart reveals both the seriousness of sin and the greatness of Divine Love.

This Short concludes Part II:
The Wounded Heart

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Eleventh Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year A) (OF)

Morning Prayers

The Morning Offering

Daily Quote...“A humble soul does not trust itself, but places all its confidence in God.” - St. Faustina

Eleventh Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year A) readings & commentary

Eleventh Sunday in Ordinary Time readings & commentary

We the Troubled Sheep and Our Good Shepherd: 11th Sunday in Ordinary Time readings & commentary

A Scriptural Reflection on the Readings for Sunday, June 14, 2026

Sunday Reflections, 11th Sunday in Ordinary Time, Year A. 14 June 2026

11th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Cycle A) Bible study

We Are God’s Special Possession

Daily Gospel

The Sacred Heart of Jesus – Short Meditations for June. June 14 — The Chief Desires of the Sacred Heart

St. Elisha

14 June: Saint Elisha

Is all sin Idolatry?

What do you think of this statement that I found browsing the net?

"The root of every sin is a breaking of the first commandment"
Yes I think so. Thats why its number 1. It also relates to the greatest commandment to love God with all your heart and strength. This is not so much a commandment but an appeal. The spirit of the first commandment. That whatever is in your heart that you make God is what you will be and become. Is also the root of all evil in that it begins in the heart. Christ mentions this as being the fullfillmnt of the law.

I think it also relates to hierarchy. Who is the ultimate lord of this world and the universe. Many gods and truths are claimed as the one true way to enlightenment and salvation. But it is in the nature of truth and reality that there can only be one God and truth in Christ.

Satan rebels against this and wanted to be God. Wanted to be the god of the world. He put the idea in minds of Adam and Eve to disobey God so they could be like Him.

That why God made the 1st commandment as He knew that there would be many false gods and idols that were competing for devotion. As God was the one true God it makes sense that this be a commandment for our own good. Whatever you make your god is what you become.
I only have one distinction to categories my thoughts in this matter.

Pre-made. This is a person suppressing the truth in unrighteousness and heaping up for himself false teachers who tell him what his itching ears want to hear. This is a idol that was made to appeal to the flesh and attract the masses.
Thats why I think it begins with the 1st commandment and its fullfillment in the greatest commandment. Which leads to the 2nd greatest commandment.

Because if you begin with the one true God it leads to the keeping of the commandments and to Christs fullfillment as God promised. The foundation is God and the fruits are obedience to God in keeping the rest of the commandments. Which naturally leads to Christ.

But if you place false gods and idols as the basis for your devotion and worship then you are subject to this. Whatever that may entail. Much of the time with pagan gods and idols or with money and materialism or with science and tech and even worshipping other humans as the pharoahs did. This is usually based around making human desires and the flesh gods and idols.

Its a backdoor way to worshipping the world and self as god.

I think the main reason why God is resisted is because people have to give up the idea of self as the god of their own life and world. Bowing down to someone else as God. Due to our fallen nature we inherently rebel against God. Because satan wants to be God.
Custom made idols. These I would define as a person making a god in his own image. Making Him as he wants Him to be, and not trusting and loving Him as He is, even if we don't understand everything to get a clear picture of Him. This is a person who plucks out from Scripture all the things that he doesn't want, and replaces that with his own wants, thus creating a god in his own image.

Is all sin idolatry? Is it all motivated by the breaking of the first commandment?

Thoughts?
Your are right that we humans tend to make what we want into gods and idols. Its sort of a justification for allowing sin that we make it a god or something worthy of worshipping. Money is a good example. Many don't even realise we are slaves to money. When God said he would give us all we need.

The hardest thing I think is that in todays world it is full of false gods and idols that make people happy and give pleasure and that this has been made to be a good thing. A measure of what is moral and something that should be aspired to. Its a bot like how 'pride' has become a virtue. Which is basically the worship of self and others.
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Do the holy scriptures teach or imply that space aliens exist?

Yes. See previous and original reply and linked materials.
As much as I would like to work through your posts in detail and address the issues of logic and interpretation, I think it is wiser for me to step back at this point, as further engagement would be time‑consuming and unlikely to be fruitful for either of us.
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Third Sunday After Pentecost (EF)

Morning Prayers

Divinum Officium

Daily Quote...A tree is known by its fruit; a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost; he who sows courtesy reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love. - St. Basil the Great

Third Sunday After Pentecost propers & commentary (Gueranger)

Third Sunday After Pentecost propers & commentary

Fr. Leonard Goffine's instruction on the Third Sunday After Pentecost

The Merciful Orations of the Third Sunday after Pentecost

In Illo Tempore: 3rd Sunday after Pentecost

Daily Gospel

The Sacred Heart of Jesus – Short Meditations for June. June 14 — The Chief Desires of the Sacred Heart

Saint Basil the Great propers & commentary

Saint Basil the Great Bishop, Doctor of the Church

Sermons for Everyday Living - St Basil the Great 6/14/26

The Soul Worth More Than the Whole World | Third Sunday After Pentecost
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I found out why my mother is so angry at me

I am not sure what is going on with you and your mother. I think perhaps both of you need to sit down and you should ask her what she finds difficult with you living at home. Perhaps her telling you to wash the floor she meant to just dry it up after yourself with a towel. May be you need some clarification about what she means. There should be a set time for house work.
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Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

Several posts in the thread strongly imply that the seventh‑day Sabbath is a universally binding moral law, which in Seventh‑day Adventist theology makes it a salvation‑related issue even if the poster never states this outright. In Post #3, the SDA participant argues that none of the Ten Commandments have been changed, that God “sanctified the seventh day,” and that Isaiah 66:23 proves Sabbath‑keeping continues into the New Earth - a classic SDA doctrinal framework in which rejecting the Sabbath is rejecting God’s eternal moral standard. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

The implication becomes clearer in Post #7, where he explicitly states that the Sabbath is moral law, not ceremonial, and is binding on “all mankind,” again citing Isaiah 66:23 as proof that Sabbath observance is eternal. In the same post, he adds that “tradition came along and edited the moral law of God,” which in SDA theology is the foundation for the claim that Sunday observance is a human corruption of divine law - the very logic behind the SDA teaching that the end‑time “remnant” are those who keep the seventh‑day Sabbath. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?

The observation in Post #12 accurately identifies the implication: that some SDAs on CF treat seventh‑day Sabbath observance as a marker of who is saved and who is not. While the SDA poster avoids explicitly saying “non‑Sabbath‑keepers are not saved,” the combination of claims - Sabbath as eternal moral law, binding on all humanity, unchanged in the New Covenant, and contrasted with “tradition” that edits God’s law - is the standard SDA doctrinal structure that leads to the conclusion that rejecting the Sabbath is ultimately a salvation issue. Link: Must I keep Saturday as a day of scrupulous rest from worldly works?
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Jesus = Michael?

Uh, I never said they did.
You quoted three passages of created angles and applied it to the SDA’s view of Jesus which is false and misleading
Some people have this petty little thing that when the term "angel" comes into play it automatically means HOLY, which is not the case.
Agree, the devil and his angles, created fallen beings that is a good example of not being holy.
And in case you missed it, there really is NOT one single instance in the entire Bible where Michael is stated to be Jesus or pre-incarnate Jesus, so there's that. IF there was you'd actually have a case, but there isn't.
Well there is the prediction that the Son of God’s voice will raise the dead at His Second Coming John5:25,28-29 and then elsewhere its the voice of the Archangel that raises the dead 1 Thes4:16

Jesus goes by many Titles in Scripture some examples

  • Bread of Life — John 6:35, 48
  • Light of the World — John 8:12; 9:5
  • The Door — John 10:9
  • The Good Shepherd — John 10:11, 14
  • The Resurrection and the Life — John 11:25
  • The Way, the Truth, and the Life — John 14:6
  • The True Vine — John 15:1, 5
  • Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace — Isaiah 9:6
  • Branch — Isaiah 11:1; Jeremiah 23:5; Zechariah 6:12
  • Servant — Isaiah 42:1; 52:13; Matthew 12:18
  • Man of Sorrows — Isaiah 53:3
  • Root of Jesse — Isaiah 11:10; Romans 15:12
  • The LORD Our Righteousness — Jeremiah 23:6
  • Sun of Righteousness — Malachi 4:2
  • Cornerstone / Chief Cornerstone — Isaiah 28:16; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6
  • Rock — 1 Corinthians 10:4
Jesus is not a literal rock or bread, or vine or sun, Jesus is not created and angel does mean messenger and has been referred to as God in Scripture

  • Genesis 22:11–18 — the Angel of the LORD speaks as God to Abraham.
  • Exodus 3:2–6 — the Angel of the LORD appears in the burning bush and identifies Himself as "I AM" / the God of Abraham.
  • Exodus 23:20–23 — God sends an Angel in whom "my name is in him," with authority to pardon transgression (a divine prerogative).
  • Judges 13:18 — the Angel of the LORD's name is "Wonderful" (cf. Isaiah 9:6, where "Wonderful" is the Messiah).

"Archangel" comes from the Greek archangelos — a compound of archē (chief, first, ruler, beginning) and angelos (messenger/angel). So it literally means "chief messenger" or "chief of the angels."

which is another Title for Jesus as its His voice that raises the dead. This is not a unique teaching of the SDA church many of the Reformers believed this as well.
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Define the Rapture and history of various versions of it

It seems that the Judgment and the old earth disposed of, will happen at the same time. More or less simultaneously. Both after the Millennium.

It will be all of the earthly and mortal world finished and gone. Eternity is entirely Spiritual.

In the Nicene Creed we confess a belief in the resurrection of the Body and the life of the world to come, and eschatological texts in the New Testament very clearly describe a physical World to Come.
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Is Hell Annihilationism or Eternal Torment

lol Thanks. I suspected that is what it meant but I wanted to be sure. My argument, however, has nothing to do with the heresies but with the fact that God can do as He pleases. If He chooses to remove Himself from a location He can certainly do that.
Uh, except for the fact that there is no statement anywhere saying God does that other than in your imaginations.

God is in fact Omnipresent so there is no such thing as "separation from God." God isn't a "locale" on a universal multidimensional map of some sorts.
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Jasmine Crockett suggests she also would have stabbed Austin Metcalf in stunning defense of Karmelo Anthony

I don't think its an opinion but a fact. Crockett lied that the jury was all white (fact). She implied the jury was biased because no blacks were on the jury (fact). Simply mentioning these facts is not bias.

The black jurorers were not disqualified from being jurorers. They all went through the process to qualify and those who were disqualified did not meet the qualification. Nor did many other people including whites and minorities.

By implying that the blacks were disqualified due to racism is unsubstanciated and therefore stirring up trouble. People make unsubstanciated claims as though truth. This is what stirs up trouble.

I just trust the system until its proved that something is wrong. Its worked for decades and 1,000s of times before regardless of race. White men have been convicted of murder under the same circumstances and are doing more time than Anthony.

I don't know. But I bet some think its because they hate blacks. Thats the stock standard race focused answer. Which stokes the fires and now we see more violence as a result.

This is a good example of how words and narratives lead to division and hatred on the streets.

We would expect the majority of jurorers be white considering they represent the majority of the population. Not that this is the criteria based on skin color or ethnic background.

The premise for grievances about the jury mix and black representation is based on the unsubstanciated belief that this is because of racism. As I mentioned earlier the ideology makes all differences and every inequality due to race and descrimination.

It assumes racism and descrimination before and without any evidence. It turns other reasons into racial reasons. The entire worldview lens is about victim and oppressed and perpetrator and oppressor. Theres no room for any other reasons.

This is what I mean by fixating on everything being about race and differences as the measure for what is good and truth. The idea of making everything the exact representation of every single difference people have so its fair and equal, regardless of all else. I think this is what is creating descrimination by hyper focusing on the differences.

The ironic thing is even if we do go along with this DEI thinking the jury should have mostley been whites because thats exactly the right % reflected in society. Yet still people complain its not good enough. We need to force it so that we have skin color over everything else. To me that is racism plain and simple.

It was inaccurate and a lie that Crockett used the example of a 300lb person threatening a smaller man. To build a case for self defense that caused Anthony to fear for his life that he had to pull out a knife and stab the big man in th heart.

Metcalf was average size, he did not have a weapon nor make life threatening attempts to Anthony. The jury was presented with the facts and they concluded it met the criteria for murder.

It was inaccurate to bring in George Floyd as an example of this case as no police officer was involved and there was no struggle where Metcalf was on top of Anthony using life threatening physicality. This was between two male students at an athletic meet.

Totally uncalled for and irrelevant. Designed to tap into the same hatred and anger for Floyd and that is exactly what we are seeing.

In fact here are those words coming out of her own mouth.

But notice how she exaggerates the example by saying not only was this a threatening massive bully but that they were on top of her. To push home the false defense that Metcalf was the agressor and he posed a life threatening threat. She is creaating a false narrative.

Maybe like a pocket knife that has a couple of other uses. But still a knife that went through his bone and into his heart. Its still the use of a deadly weapon when it does that.

I think I have shown its more than an opinion. I mean you could argue why saying those things is ok. I know that in todays postmodern society morals and the truth are relative. But I think for most of our history we sort of know justice and what is fair and good. We have lost this in recent times and its all become a mess and fighting over what is real and truth.

The proof is in the pudding in that we now see it on the streets. We are literally killing each other for being different. For holding different opinions.

As I said the proof is in the pudding. In the fall out from what has been said. We are now seeing death threats and actual harm and violence on the streets and escalating the culture war.

I know and its not the only example. Why have we come to this point that we want to kill others over social matter ? I think its because we lost God. We need Jesus back in the forefront of our hearts and minds to unite us. Its the only way. He sacrificed Himself for this very reason.

One actually said they could not convict a brother. At least some of the others were excluded because they were teachers. But that also applied to all teachers. I would imagine they had a reason. perhaps because it involved students and within the schooling system. The point is it was not based on race.


I reckon we could go through all court convictions for murder and find examples where the jury consisted of all sorts of combinations. Including large % of minorities and blacks in white cases. But no one complains then. They trust the system for the most part. Anthony's case is no different to 1,000's of others where no one is complaining or citing racism.

Ok then why are you making objections to the jury mix. Why this case and not 1,000s of others which are the same.

How ?. According to the eye witnesses and the evidence presented the jury determined Metcalf did not pose a physical threat to justify leathal force to kill Metcalf. Simple as that. They reached the verdict pretty quick (3 hours) as it was pretty clear. This kind of murder happens time and time again (too much) and the same verdict is given.

People are playing th race card as has been happening in recent years and its now spilling into the streets and leading to more murders.

Two wrongs don't make a right. That is wrong as well. !0 years for a murder and home invasion seems light. I hate the court system with all these compromises and plea deals. It blurs the line between right and wrong.

Yes the false claim that all the students surrounded Anthony has also been pushed to build a case of self defense. The eye witnesses and evidence presented in court does not support these false narratives.

Imagine if an officer or official asked someone to leave because they were causing trouble. They persisted to stay and cause trouble. They were not suppose to be in the area but refused to leave. Then the person has to be physically removed. So they stab and kill the person trying to remove the trouble maker. Is that justified or self defense.

This sort of reminds me of the same ideas being displayed out on the streets where any authority is attacked with violence. Where the actual perpetrator is made out to be the victim and the victims made out to be the perpetrator.

I don't think so. If we take away the false narratives and just look at the facts I think its pretty straight forward. If we started to say that the mere presense of someone without a weapon, following normal protocols for dealing with trouble makers. Which can end with having to physically remove them. Then It seems clear Metcalf was not an immenent threat to Anthony's life.

That anyone who is asked to leave or has to be physically removed because they are causing disruption can literally kill someone because its self defense. That would be a blood shed.

Surveys show that many young people/students believe violence and even killing someone who is percieved as hateful and a threat because of their beliefs is justified.



Wow, you really put a lot of effort into these posts that I don’t read.
I guess it’s a fun endeavor, (I’ve been know to be long-winded), so, enjoy!
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Trump's Easter message.

Yes, for the forth time.

Apparently seeing that ad is supposed to make me soil my pants or something. But so far I just see an ad for medallions.

Here, I'll try again:
Nope.

Maybe this time.
Nope.

Maybe this time
Still nope.
I guess that the President can’t help but hawk merch, while he’s also serving our fair land.
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30 trillion reasons sex can’t change

Instead of affirming that “God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them (Genesis 1:27),” the trans ideology states, “I create my own image, I can make myself to be male, female, or anything I choose.” (Embracing God’s Design by Walt Heyer and Jennifer Bauwens, Ph.D., Chapter 1)

My story

In the 1980s, I fell for the idea that I could make myself to be female even though I am male. I took cross-sex hormones, had numerous surgeries to feminize my bodily appearance, and for 8 years, identified as Laura Jensen, female. I came to realize that none of it changed my male body into a biological female. I knew I was a fake and not really a female.

Thanks to a loving church, Christian counseling, and leaning on faith, I offered my life to Jesus and Jesus offered me His divine grace. The Lord Jesus redeemed and restored my sanity.

I admitted to God I had been wrong and foolish to identify as a “trans” female. I came to see that I had elevated my fake “female” self above God and family and was living a blatantly sinful and self-centered life, missing out on God’s divine grace. Today I live as the man God created me to be, bringing Him honor with 40 years of sobriety, 29 years of marriage, and a ministry to others wanting to get their life back, as I did.

The body testifies to the truth

Continued below.

Do you have any Interesting stories to tell ?

On Wednesday, the day of the cup final, the Cats looked ready—all except Gary. He walked into the arena pale, glassy-eyed, and heavy-footed, his stomach waging a brutal rebellion. He blamed a bad night's sleep when Coach Santini asked why he looked off.

From the first possession, Gary was a shadow of himself. His explosiveness was gone, his footwork was sluggish, and he missed layups blindfolded, clutching his stomach after rebounds. The Foxes pounced relentlessly. By halftime, the Cats were down by twelve.

The second half was worse. Gary’s legs betrayed him, his vision blurred, and his passes sailed out of bounds. As cameras zoomed in on his pale face, unmistakably suffering from Monday night’s feast, the Foxes widened the lead. With two minutes left, the Cats were down by eighteen.

When the final buzzer sounded, Gary sat frozen on the bench. Coach Santini patted his shoulder. “Don't worry, Gary. We'll try again next year.” Gary could only nod.

The Foxes celebrated on the court as the Cats walked off in silence. Gary Meldrum, the league’s golden boy, had been defeated. He finally understood the truth: he hadn’t lost to the Foxes. He’d been defeated by himself. (The end)
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Weekly homilies

Homily Monday, June 15, 2026



1 Kings 21:1-16



God teaches us that the only true authority is love, the joy of a child, welcoming, and respect.



Matthew 5:38-42

Jesus said, "Offer no resistance to one who is evil."



There are two good reasons for this: to ease tension, and to allow time to find equitable solutions.



Biblical texts: NAB-RE

Normand Thomas.
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