Like, saying that the people who took the COVID jab are committing 'mass suicide' is such an out there comment that it needs evidence to back it up.

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No, it's what you posted.

The quoted passage are your words, not mine.

It's still unclear what you think my position is.

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Your copying/pasting was apparently botched there.

NxNW said:

Nobody is saying otherwise.

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Actually, you did 12 minutes ago.

So not what God said:

Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Gen 2:1: Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Who gives anyone permission to edit God's Word?

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Do love a second generation a trust fund brat lecturing on affordability.

durangodawood said:

I admit I did have to look up where Eswatini is when it was in the news recently for hosting Taiwan.

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(aka Swaziland (until 2018 (I had to look it up also)))

But then you don't work for the State Department (I assume).

Well at least Trump ended all the wars and inflation.

Federal judge denies DOJ motion for Portland police protest footage​

A judge on Friday denied a U.S. Department of Justice motion that sought to compel Portland to share police body camera footage and documents related to its handling of protests outside the federal immigration enforcement building, finding it was filed in “bad faith and with unclean hands.”

The Justice Department sought the material first on Oct. 3 and again on Oct. 29 in an effort to enforce one provision of a longstanding settlement agreement it reached with the city in 2014, saying it was investigating “potential viewpoint discrimination.”

The city’s settlement, approved in 2014, was aimed specifically at reducing unnecessary or excessive force by Portland police against people suffering from a mental health crisis, city attorneys argued.

[Presumably Nick Sortor.]

Sortor’s lawyer later filed a notice to sue the Portland Police Bureau, alleging bias by the bureau’s leaders against conservatives after his arrest on a disorderly conduct allegation which was dropped by the Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office days later.

Simon highlighted that [Assistant Attorney General] Dhillon also shared a social media post from Sortor on Oct. 3, using “strong language of a threatening nature.” Dhillon reported a Sortor comment about a federal investigation into Portland police with her own, writing: “Portland: It’s FO time. Buckle up.” FO is shorthand for “find out.”

“That is neither language nor tone of a good-faith investigation by the United States Department of Justice,” Simon wrote. “Instead, it exhibits all the hallmarks of a threat and attempted intimidation.”

2 Timothy 3:1-17 Remember, the final age of this world is to be a time of turmoil! People will love nothing but self and money, they will be boastful, arrogant and abusive. Disobedient to parents, devoid of gratitude, piety and natural affection. They will be uncontrolled in their violence, hating all goodness, perfidious, foolhardy and self important. They will love their pleasures more than their God. While preserving the outward form of religion, actually, they deny its power. Have nothing to do with them.
Persecution will indeed come to everyone who wants to lead a godly life as a follower of Christ Jesus, while evil doers and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But for your part, stand by the truths you have learned and are assured of, because you are familiar with the Holy scriptures which have the power to make you wise and lead you into salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
All inspired scripture has its use for teaching the truth, refuting error and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be capable and equipped for good works of every kind.

2 Timothy 4:1-5 Before God and before Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, I charge you solemnly by His coming appearing and Kingdom reign – to proclaim the gospel, press it home, in season and out of season, use argument, reproof and encouragement with all the patience that teaching requires.

For the time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will follow his own ideas and will gather crowds to hear whatever they fancy. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn aside to myths.
But, you must keep your head whatever happens; put up with hardship, work to spread the gospel and discharge all the duties of your calling.

1 Timothy 1:3-11 I asked you, Timothy, to instruct certain people to refrain from teaching erroneous doctrines and devoting themselves to interminable myths and fruitless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculations that do nothing to further God’s plan for humans, that works through faith in Him. The goal of this Command is love, which comes from a pure heart, a good conscience and a genuine faith. Through a lack of these attributes, some have gone astray into a plethora of theories and false notions. They set out to be teachers of the Law, but they do not know what they are talking about or the true meaning of the Word.

We all know the Law is a good thing, if it is used properly, it’s there not just for the righteous, but is necessary for the lawless and sinful, the godless and worldly, the murderers and fornicators, perverts, liars, perjurers, in fact all whose behaviour flouts the glorious Gospel of God. Ref: Revised English Bible

The end of this era, will be a time of turmoil, Paul may be referring to the Tribulation period, but we have for the last 200 years experienced an increasing proliferation of wars and disasters. Matthew 24:6-8

Persecution will come to everyone who follows Jesus, Hebrews 12:8 This totally refutes any ‘pre-trib/wrath rapture to heaven’. 1 Peter 4:12 However, the faithful Christians will be taken to a place of safety on earth, during the Great Tribulation. Revelation 12:14

While preserving the outward form of religion, they deny its power. Many, so called Christian Churches have deviated so far from the true Gospel, they are no longer a Church of God. Isaiah 58, Jude 1-25, Revelation 3:14-22

The time has come when people refuse sound teaching, they believe false theories, ignore, allegorise or place Bible prophecy into past history, so have no proper understanding of what the Lord has planned and will happen soon. Isaiah 29:13-14, Isaiah 30:8-11

False teachers are more prevalent than ever, promoting their erroneous doctrines. Ministries, TV shows, books, etc, on the end times are a big business. Their judgement comes, false teachers will meet their end on the Day of wrath. Jeremiah14:13-16, Isaiah 56:9-12

SabbathBlessings said:

She is not directly quoting Colossians 2:9 as an exegetical explanation of Christ’s incarnation.

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Yes, we certainly gathered that.

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She is using related theological language to affirm the complete deity of both the Father and the Son, while distinguishing how they are revealed:

• The Father possesses the complete fullness of deity but remains invisible to human sight.
• The Son possesses the complete fullness of deity and makes God known or “manifested.”
• The Spirit is described in the following sentence as the fullness of the Godhead exercising divine agency.

Therefore, “bodily” in her sentence about the Father does not appear to mean “incarnated in a human body.” It appears to be an older use of “bodily” meaning substantially, fully, or in complete reality, rather than partially or figuratively.

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Did you read the article we are discussing? Did you have Chat GPT look at the article we are discussing? Anyone who did knows that the AI is missing a few things.

SabbathBlessings said:

That usage is not identical to Paul’s precise application in Colossians 2:9.

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To say the least.

SabbathBlessings said:

Ellen White is adapting biblical terminology for a broader theological statement.

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And we are asking you what that statement is. The author in the article gave his view.

SabbathBlessings said:

The central problem in their argument is that they seem to assume:“If ‘all the fullness of the Godhead bodily’ is used of anyone, it must necessarily mean that person became incarnate.”

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Which is exactly NOT the case, which was why I asked you what you thought it meant.

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But that conclusion depends on the context.

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And did you share the context of this discussion with the AI? Did you share the article that was the basis of this thread? And did you read it?

SabbathBlessings said:

In Colossians 2:9, “bodily” refers to the fullness dwelling in Christ in embodied form.

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Yes.

SabbathBlessings said:

In Ellen White’s statement, the immediate contrast is between the Father being invisible and the Son being manifested. Her point is about the fullness and distinct revelation of the divine persons

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That doesn't spell out what she meant by "bodily". The article gives one explanation. You were asked for yours.

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but their earlier argument relied heavily on bringing up the fact that the Father was not incarnate.

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Right, because He was not. That seems relevant. And the statement about Christ in Scripture is about Him being incarnate.

So we were asking you about how she applied the language to the Father.

And if you read the article, you should have seen one Adventist explanation.

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That would clarify the issue without pretending the misunderstanding came entirely from you.

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Did you read the article the thread was based upon? Because if so, then you should not have come to the conclusion that you did. And if you did not read the article the whole conversation is based on--that is really on you.

SabbathBlessings said:

This is typically how these threads go about EGW. A lot of misrepresentation

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Well they do seem to have a lot of misrepresentation by you, when you don't actually read the thread and post things based on your lack of understanding of the topic.

Example 1. In the Ellen White--Jesus could have failed, lost His "eternal existence" thread you claimed misrepresentation, and posted an AI Analysis--of the wrong statements entirely. You analyzed Ellen White Comments that were not the subject of the thread, but assumed were the subject of the thread, rather than reading to see what was actually discussed:

Example 2: In the Adventist: amalgamation in CERTAIN races of men thread you apologized after initially claiming I was trying to guess about what races she meant, until it was pointed out you didn't read the thread, and I had not guessed at all, but was simply looking at what explanations Adventists offered themselves on controversial statements. You also posted an AI analysis that had you read the thread you would know was redundant.

Example 3: In the The Timeline to 1844 came from Bible Scholars and believers not William Miller thread the topic of the shut door was referenced, so I linked to a document on said topic from the White Estate, by a White Estate director. You then posted an AI analysis of the Ellen White Estate document! And you claimed "some people" were presenting partial quotes to misrepresent Ellen White. Well, if you think the White Estate is misrepresenting Ellen White, you can take that up with them. But it was an odd choice to fact check the White Estate document that was defending her on the point.

SabbathBlessings said:

Anyway, this is my last post here.

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Ok, next time please read a bit more carefully before reaching for AI.

AFrazier said:

That's a really petty and childish response.

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It was your demand that was childish. "Would you" works much better than "you'll have too." Basic etiquette.

AFrazier said:

I'm not asking you to believe me. I'm asking you to show an ounce of respect for actual scholars who have dedicated their careers to these studies.

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All that you have provided is hearsay evidence. How many of these same scholars say that the Book of Daniel was not composed by Daniel? I would bet a lot of them.

You still have not responded to my twice-asked statement and question:

WilliamLhk said:

Jude says his quote is a prophecy of Enoch. You are in effect claiming that Jude was deceived by a 3rd-century BC forgery. ,,,should I believe you and not Scripture??

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Please state for the record whether or not you believe that Jude was inspired by the Holy Spirit, or was deceived in what he wrote about the prophecy of Enoch.

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Good. I'm not suggesting otherwise. Whatever the reign of the Holy Spirit directs you to do or be will, in that moment, indicate where you are at relative to those three states of faith.

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Ephesians 4:
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

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#20 But what does this have to do with you calling out your brothers?

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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

It we wouldn't want our children forced to study other religions or Christian theology not taught in our Church, we should not force other people's children to study ours.

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It would seem as if there's still some enforcement and regulatory oversight.

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Its a big swamp for one little DOGE to drain.

ThatRobGuy said:

....If it were me, I'd be focusing more of the finite time and resources on inspecting foods sourced from countries that have weaker (or more potentially corrupt) domestic inspection regimes. In the case of Canada, their food (and food safety) standards are higher than ours, so I'd be okay with redirecting half of the inspection staff currently at the Northern Border, down to the Southern Border, and pre-approving most packaged/sealed goods coming in from Canada.

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Seems reasonable. But I think its politically harder to announce a specific enforcement stand down than to just slowly starve the whole system of resources across the board.

Tornado !

Larniavc said:

Like energy? Sure.

Now will you answer the question I asked you in post #34?

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If religions have been claiming there is an eternal thing for centuries and I have now proven that energy is eternal, then is that not evidentiary support for there being an eternal thing as so claimed?

I been looking into his politics .He opposes against mandated national paid sick leave, for American workers. While, our tax dollars is paying, for his sick leave. He doesn't work with Obama, to get things done. He opposes things, until Trump gives the okay. I just feel he's never worked for our needs. It seems typical now days, with the Republican party. If he's dead or alive. I doubt he cares, about what people are saying about him.

Sheriff blasts FBI’s Patel over ‘inaccurate’ claims in Nancy Guthrie case​

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has accused FBI Director Kash Patel of spreading inaccurate information about the investigation into Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.

During an interview on “The Sharpe Exchange,” Nanos criticized Patel’s public comments about the case, saying the FBI chief received incorrect information early in the investigation and warned that when inaccurate information is released, he believes “it hurts the case.”

Nanos also pushed back on Patel’s claim that local investigators delayed contacting the FBI, calling the director “misinformed” and revealing the two have never met or spoken with each other.

The State Fair of Ohio has just commenced in the last day or two. I have a doctor's appointment in Columbus next Thursday and told my daughters we can go to the Fair when I'm finished. I had taken my mother and daughters down to Cincinnati Tuesday to watch the Reds play baseball and then see Ken Hamm's interpretation of Noah's Ark in Kentucky. Skyline chili does not agree with my mother's digestive system but we love it. It was 3-2-1 Tuesday at the ballpark: $3 beers, $2 hot dogs, $1 ice cream cups. And the Reds shut out their in State rival the Cleveland Guardians!

We saw the Ark Wednesday. An expensive place but I think probably worth the price of admission. I don't agree with every hypothesis or conclusion that is presented but just seeing that thing up close is spectacular; then walking into it. . . There is also a small zoo within the park. And a theatre and couple of other little things. They've improved the food service from, oh, probably 3 years ago when I last took my daughters.

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In a world where a mediocre standup comic / mma announcer becomes the most popular podcast host in the country, anything is possible.

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The crux of the issue is two pronged...

It's demonization combined with aggregation/distribution.


You can imagine if the shoe was on the other foot.

Imagine a state or city GOP official who'd built a brand on using hostile rhetoric towards non-citizens, announced a new tax on residential properties owned by foreign nationals, and then hopped on Twitter to announce to a sometimes-rabid, millions-strong, fan base that they'd be releasing a nice sortable searchable list of the impacted names/addresses.


...you think just maybe some people would be throwing up the red flag on the grounds of privacy/safety concerns? Would the fact that it's technically public record negate those concerns?


Because that is tantamount to what's happening here. The DSA (of which, Mamdani is the "star player on the team") has spent the last 2 years bashing "the bourgeoisie", accusing them of not paying their fair share, and then suggesting their tax avoidance is the reason for all the ills of the "working class".

And then hops on Twitter with a taunting message to announce that they're release an "easy to use" list of the potential tax-avoiders.

It very much comes across as a "you know the group that I said was the source of all your problems??? Well here's a list "

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Thats not for me to judge, God makes it clear... Acts 17:30

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I would like to see these churches they claim are keeping the Sabbath, are doing so, to honor the 4th commandment. The church this person gave as an example, when you actually pull up their own stated beliefs, they offer Saturday night mass (Sabbath is Friday evening to Sabbath evening) as a way to honor Sunday, not stated to honor the Sabbath and 4th commandment. God looks at our heart, its not just going through motions, but our reasoning matters too. Also the Sabbath has always been more than church service, its part of it, but according to God, we are to keep the entire day holy unto the LORD Exo20:8-11 Isa 58:13