I pray that God would bring you and your fiancee back together and that God would overcome your fiancee's alcohol addiction. I pray that God would help you deal with the mentally disabled woman and would provide everything you need. In Jesus' name, amen.

I pray that God will protect you and allow you to keep electrical power. I also pray for God to bless your family with health, happiness, and healing. In particular, I pray for God's blessing on your son Jakeb. In Jesus' name, amen.

I pray that God will protect you so that the tornado does not harm you at all. In Jesus' name, amen.

DaisyDay said:

Wait, who's being prosecuted?

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Olympic athletes.

reddogs said:

Tall please, you know better, its not scriptural...

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No, I actually agree with Ellen White on this one. The wavesheaf was on Sunday, and it did point to the resurrection, and Jesus fulfilled it, and Scripture says so.

It is not wrong to worship on Sunday.

reddogs said:

I think we are seeing a desperate search for anything to keep from obeying it.....

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I think we are seeing a desperate search for a way to NOT see he already said he was keeping Sabbath by resting and worshiping.

You need to add a file to your talking points for those who keep Sabbath and also worship on Sunday.

The Liturgist said:

No we don’t - the synods were ecumenical, except for the Second Council of Constantinople.



Nope.



Also nope.



I’ve got a better idea - you clarify that you did not just accuse my denomination of idolatry and desist from further flaming and goading.

If you have an actual interest in learning about the very substantial difference between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism, The Orthodox Church and The Orthodox Way by Metropolitan Kallistos Ware of Diokleia is generally a good place to start.

Among Western churches, the Anglicans, Confessional Lutherans and Old Catholics are closer to us due to having adopted some of our prayers and due to a lack of a doctrine of Papal Supremacy which the Orthodox never accepted (indeed a predominantly Greek Orthodox council deposed Pope Honorius I, but the RCC accepted it; at one time a state of unity existed between the Orthodox and the Catholics but all of the aspects of the Roman church that the original Protestants such as St. Jan Hus (Venerated by the Eastern Orthodox as a hieromartyr), John Calvin (definitely not venerated by the Orthodox), Martin Luther, Thomas Cranmer, et cetera objected to either happened within 300 years prior to the schism and were the proximate cause of it, or followed the schism. In the case of the Oriental Orthodox, they were out of communion with Rome since 451 AD (and are also the closest denomination to the EO, indeed the two are so close as to be basically compatible).

The Orthodox (Eastern and Oriental) along with the Assyrian Church of the East also have the highest ratio of martyrs and confessors to Christians who did not suffer martyrdom or torture of any denomination including the Waldensians (while we are horrified by the Piedmont Easter, it pales in comparison to what the Roman church did to us - and has apologized for, and we are forgiving, during the Crusades, which included cannibalizing Eastern Christians when food supplies ran low, and also raising the fourth crusade ostensibly to liberate Jerusalem from the Saracens, but at the request of the Venetian Republic and with the approval of the Pope it was diverted to attack and conquer the Byzantine Empire.

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Well even AI knows...

Authority of the Catholic Church on Dies Solis (Sunday)​

In Catholic teaching, Sunday (Dies Solis, “Day of the Sun”) is the first day of the week and the day set apart for the public worship of God. Its authority comes from both Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium of the Church.

truthuprootsevil said:

Are you trying to tell me that my belief will cause me to be left behind?

We differ again in beliefs: I believe in post tribulation of what is referred to as the rapture - not PRE-tribulation.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 says now we beseech you bretheren by the coming of our Lord and our gathering together unto him...... Let no man deceive you by any means, FOR THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME except they're coming falling away first and that man of sin be revealed. (((Speaking of the beast AKA Satan and his Antichrist)))



1 Corinthians 15:52 say in a moment in a twinkling of an eye - AT THE LAST TRUMP - the trumpet will sound and the dead in Christ shall be raised uncorruptible ....... what happens at the last Trumpet ------ Revelation 11:15 the seventh trumpet sounded
the THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD HAVE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF GOD ........ (((he's here - no returning three and a half years later))

1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV - In a moment, in the twinkling of an - Bible Gateway https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/search=1 Corinthians 15:52&version=KJV

Revelation 11 KJV - And there was given me a reed like unto - Bible Gateway Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 11 - King James Version

What John Nelson Darby started in the 18th century of the pre-rapture was made popular by evangelists like Billy Graham, Hal Lindsey, Oral Roberts, and I'll add Jack Van Impe to this and it's sad because many will be looking to be raptured away - but instead will be here at the rise of the beast and the Antichrist and just may will fall because of the miracles they will see.

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reddogs said:

Tall, come on. Even Adventist hold they were inspired..

"Luther was the man for his time; through him God accomplished a great work for the reformation of the church and the enlightenment of the world.

Like the first heralds of the gospel, Luther sprang from the ranks of poverty. His early years were spent in the humble home of a German peasant. By daily toil as a miner his father earned the means for his education. He intended him for a lawyer; but God purposed to make him a builder in the great temple that was rising so slowly through the centuries. Hardship, privation, and severe discipline were the school in which Infinite Wisdom prepared Luther for the important mission of his life. . . ."Ellen White: Protestantism and Martin Luther (Part 1)

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You sure you want to endorse everything Luther wrote? I think we can oblige you with a number of his statements you wouldn't care for or call inspired.

Someone being used of God is not the same as someone being inspired in what they wrote.

Jipsah said:

Dunno. I think that Doc Smith's " Bergenholm Converter" was an elegant solution to interstellar flight. It simply negated inertia in the vessel when it was "free", and restored it (at it's intrinsic velocty) when "inert".
It gave the story a more "realistic" feel than just invoking magic.

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Indeed, there’s a hilarious moment in his novel Triplanetary where two ships traveling at extreme velocity using the Bergenholm system just bump into each other and stop without any impact, because there’s no inertia, just, boink, we’re stopped. Not even a boink, just, a gentle touch. (in the Lensmen series I think he called it something else, but I can’t remember - I haven’t read The Skylark series, only Triplanetary and Galactic Patrol, Grey Lensman and Second Stage Lensman all the way through, plus parts of the second Lensman book (I forgot the name of it, but it was fun) and Second Stage Lensman). The Skylark of Space is definitely a work I have wanted to read since my adolescence, it just never crossed my path.

Now the inertialess drive is not scientifically plausible, obviously, but it is cool (it would also not solve the FTL issue from the perspective of causality, although with no inertia, I suppose it would no longer require infinite energy to reach the speed of light, indeed it would require no energy at all, which actually becomes the real problem, if we delete inertia we delete any linkage to an inertial reference frame and thus our position in spacetime becomes meaningless.

Back then, when it came to vintage SF, most of it was out of print, so it was a question of what I could find at the local used bookstore that controlled what I was able to read. Thus when I was 14 and got a complete set of the short stories of Cordwainer Smith I thought that was the greatest thing ever - and they were so good.

Personally I think his FTL drives were also the most interesting - ships that took an extreme toll on their human operators in stories like “Scanners Live In vain,” and the story about the Go-Captain and Stop-Captain and the giant “Rats” that would hunt the Planoform ships in deep space, which had to be fought off using telepathic cats - and the “Pinlighters” who had some other dangerous job connected to the FTL system.

James Blish also came up with some cool FTL drives - the Spindizzies which were antigravity FTL drives used in Cities In Flight (I never made it into the books about the city-starships, but I did enjoy the book about their discovery which involved constructing a fantastic artificial wall of ice in the atmosphere of Jupiter to test the limits of gravitation, which was fascinating because the point of the project wasn’t even understood by most of the scientists and engineers involved in it. Another featured an antimatter powered Dirac Drive, and another featured an experimental Dirac Drive that in transporting its passengers to Alpha Centauri, it took them inside an atom, and then back out again, allowing for a brief glimpse at the surface of an electron. Not technically accurate since the size of photons would preclude being able to see anything that small, but still very cool.

My least favorite FTL drives are the ones which completely ignore relativity and the consequences. The hyperdrives from the original Star Wars films for example - now I love Star Wars for what it is, science fantasy, at least the first three films, however, as it grew, and as more imitators appeared, there are too many FTL drives with no time travel characteristics, which ignores the fact that any FTL drive would by definition include a temporal component, since you’re exceeding the speed of causality.

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I have been holding on for so long, believing the LORD Jesus for a miracle... And I have hoped in vain.
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tranquil said:

I already know you think it is one event. And you haven't posted anything proving that tamid is the same as zebach.

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If you were truly paying attention to what I've been saying you'd understand that my connection between the passages in question comes down to their patterned language. Patterned language doesn't have to include the same exact words or phraseology for two passages to be connected. I've demonstrated this multiple times using color-codes passages and other examples, as quoted below:

Garrett.theo said:

Abomination of Desolation​	Man of Lawlessness​	Little Horn in Daniel 7​	Little Horn in Daniel 8​
"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." - Daniel 9:27​	"Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God." - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4​	“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully... I also wanted to know about the... other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom. “He gave me this explanation: ...different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time. - Daniel 7:8, 20-22a, 23a, 24b-25​	The goat became very great, but at the height of its power the large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven. Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them. It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down. Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground. - Daniel 8:8-12​

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Garrett.theo said:

when we look at these texts side-by-side, we see that the little horn of Daniel 8 puts an end to the daily sacrifice, just like the person who confirms the covenant. The idea that they are two different people doesn't make sense because the act of taking away the daily sacrifice only happens once, in the middle of the seven year period.

Abomination of Desolation​

Little Horn in Daniel 8​

"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." - Daniel 9:27​

The goat became very great, but at the height of its power the large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven. Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them. It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the Lord; it took away the daily sacrifice from the Lord, and his sanctuary was thrown down. Because of rebellion, the Lord’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground. - Daniel 8:8-12​

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Garrett.theo said:

Similar to the English language, different words in Hebrew can be used to point to the same thing. Here are some examples:

"New York City"
"The Big Apple"
"Concrete Jungle"

"The President"
"The Commander in Chief"
"The Head of State"
"The Nation's Leader"

"Moby Dick"
"The White Whale"
"The Great Leviathan"
"The Monstrous Creature"

Here are examples from Scripture:

"The Church"
"The Body of Christ"
"The Bride of Christ"

"The Holy Spirit"
"The Spirit"
"The Comforter"
"God's Spirit"
"The Spirit of God"

"The Gospel"
"Gospel of God"
"The Gospel of Christ"
"The Gospel of The Kingdom"

As it relates to Scripture, you can be sure that these phrases use different Hebrew words. Yet, we can still understand they are relating to the same thing because of context.

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tranquil said:

If you can't explain what the 'locusts' are and what they are doing in 2 sentences, it's probably not worth my time reading an entire post about some convoluted explanation.

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Locusts are mentioned multiple times throughout the Bible. We see them in Exodus as a plague sent upon the Egyptians (Exodus 10), we see them mentioned a curse to bring famine upon those who disobey the Lord (Deuteronomy 28), and we see them used a metaphor for large groups of people, such as armies, as you explain (Judges 6 & 7; Joel 1). While connecting patterned language throughout the Bible can help us to understand it, we need to make sure we're doing so in the the correct contexts. The reason why we know not to connect the passages the way you're saying they're connected is because a careful examination of scripture already tells us how to view the locusts mentioned in Revelation. I linked it to you, but you didn't want to read it. You expect me to take my time to read and understand your long and convoluted explanations, but you don't give me the same respect. This is hypocritical.

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That's not what I wrote. What I wrote is: "Both are angels 'swearing an oath to heaven' after the occurrence of the abomination (Dan 11:31-39) and Rev 9:13-21, respectively. Both are in the context of 'time, times, half a time'/ 1260 days of the holy people (the 2 witnesses)."

The angels are swearing oaths AFTER the appearance of the abomination.

Dan 11:31 is the abomination placed by the forces of the despicable person. (The 'locusts' are the 'forces' that place the abomination.) THEN comes the angel swearing an oath to heaven in Dan 12:7.

Dan 12:7 comes after Dan 11:31, yes?

Because the 'locusts' are cutting off the 'daily'/ tamid (Joel 1:4-9), the events at the start of the 6th Trumpet (Revelation 9:13-21) parallel Daniel 11:31-39 (the 'forces of the despicable person place the abomination'). THEN the 'mighty angel' swears an oath to heaven in Revelation 10:5-6.

Rev 10:5-6 comes after Revelation 9:13-21, yes?

The 'man in linen' is the 'mighty angel'.

The 'holy people' of Dan 12:7 are the same 'holy people' as the 2 witnesses in Rev 11.

Dan 12:7And the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by Him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”​

is the same as this:

Rev 10:5And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven 6and swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that there would be no more delay,​

Rev 11:3And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.​

That timeframe of 1260 days (time, times, half time) is right before the 7th Trumpet. Revelation 9:13-21 is happening right before this 1260 days. It is not happening at the 6th Seal as you assert.

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Okay, I understand now, you were referring to the man in linen and the mighty angel of Revelation 10. We, clearly see them as the same being one-in-the-same. But the description of the Lord's return clearly ends in verses 1-3, as quoted below:

"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever." -- Daniel 12:1-3

It isn't until after that do we see the man in linen make an oath.

Not only that, we see that a scroll lays open in the hand of the mighty angel of Revelation 10 when he is making an oath. Being that the scroll symbolizes the very same one only Jesus was able to open, which was sealed with 7 seals, demonstrates that the end other world has already taken place by this event mentioned in Revelation 10. We know this to be true because the both the sixth and seventh seals refer to the return of the Lord.

If this is that case then the things you proclaim to happen after the oath mentioned in these two passages can't possibly be true.

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Huh?
Yes, the false messiah confirms the covenant of Dan 9:27. Revelation 10:5-6 is where this occurs.

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I use the word "should" to indicate obligation or advisability. I use the word "could" to express possibility. Just because it's possible for humans to make an oath, doesn't mean that God permits us to do so. The reason why He doesn't want us to, is because we are fallible and prone to mistakes/error. Because God is perfect, it's impossible for Him to break His word, hence why He is the only one who should make oaths!

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The scroll has the covenant written on it. That is what explains the punishments for disobedience. It is this from Zech 5.

Zech 5:1Again I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, a flying scroll! 2And he said to me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying scroll. Its length is twenty cubits, and its width ten cubits.”a 3Then he said to me, “This is the curse that goes out over the face of the whole land. For everyone who steals shall be cleaned out according to what is on one side, and everyone who swears falsely shall be cleaned out according to what is on the other side. 4I will send it out, declares the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter the house of the thief, and the house of him who swears falsely by my name. And it shall remain in his house and consume it, both timber and stones.”​

The 7 bowls of wrath at the 7th Trumpet are the punishment for the breaking of this covenant being given in Rev 10:5-6. That angel is 'swearing falsely' and will be punished. It is in the context of the abomination in Jerusalem which then leaves and travels to 'Mystery Babylon', aka 'Shinar'.

Zech 5:5Then the angel who talked with me came forward and said to me, “Lift your eyes and see what this is that is going out.” 6And I said, “What is it?” He said, “This is the basketc that is going out.” And he said, “This is their iniquityd in all the land.” 7And behold, the leaden cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting in the basket! 8And he said, “This is Wickedness.” And he thrust her back into the basket, and thrust down the leaden weight on its opening.​

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9Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, two women coming forward! The wind was in their wings. They had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven. 10Then I said to the angel who talked with me, “Where are they taking the basket?” 11He said to me, “To the land of Shinar, to build a house for it. And when this is prepared, they will set the basket down there on its base.”​

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Similar to how all other symbols mentioned in Revelation 10 point to Jesus, we can be sure that the scroll is not as you proclaim it is. Rather, it's the same scroll which had the seven seals covering it.

The meanings behind the seven trumpets and bowls can be found in the article I linked to you earlier, which is here.

MarkRohfrietsch said:

Nothing new there, that is simply a "believers baptism", an affirmation of faith and withholds the grace, forgiveness, and the Holy Spirit from infants and Children. Baptism is both an Exorcism and a gracious blessing

This neglects the promises of grace and the forgiveness of sins that accompany a baptism in, with and under the water and the word, administered in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as well.

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How would you read this from Gods Word...
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Bro.T said:

You can't go around picking verses out the Bible that lines up with your doctrine.

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This is hilarious. Over 95% of professed Christians disagree with your doctrines and I’m the one picking verses? My brother get out of whatever sect your in. You should recognize false teachers when you hear them.

Photo: IG @patrick13free (Patrick Bernard)

The photo posted to Instagram on Sunday July 26th, quickly went viral.

As wildfires ravage Europe and the western United States, one specific image has taken the internet by storm. In France, photojournalist Patrick Bernard captured a crucifix on his iPhone that was left standing among the ashes of the fires that struck Saumos, a small commune in the Médoc region near Bordeaux. The photo posted to Instagram on Sunday July 26th, quickly went viral.

Bernard has spent four decades as a photojournalist, chronicling stories from the road with a self-imposed rule: every photo, every word, every piece of music he shares is created entirely on his iPhone. When he's not traveling, he calls Bordeaux home.

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Author and Christian activist Ryan Bomberger has denounced a recent appeals court ruling against an Oregon public school employee who was fired for displaying books written by Bomberger and his wife, Bethany, that promote the biological understanding of sex.

Oregon public school employee Roderick E. Theis II is waging a legal battle over whether he can lawfully display the books He is He and She is She, two children’s books authored by Ryan and Bethany Bomberger.

Theis is represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a conservative legal nonprofit that has successfully argued First Amendment cases before the United States Supreme Court.

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BPPLEE said:

All I can find is how bad things are since the earthquake

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Can't blame Trump for that one, and I can readily believe that under Maduro, it would be even worse.

I guess we'll have to see how this shakes out. In any case, a victory round seems premature.

Indiana Fever guard Sophie Cunningham came to the defense of two teenage girls who claim that Seattle Storm co-owner Celeste Keaton cursed at them and invoked religion after they expressed support for the WNBA player who said it's "common sense" to bar men from women's sports.

“I truly believe there is a safe space and love for EVERYBODY. Biological girls, biological boys, trans women, and trans men. Everyone is welcome at my table! You can disagree and still be kind,” Cunningham wrote in an X post.

“Bravo to those girls for standing up for what they believe. You’ll be hearing from me soon ... yay for gifts,” the female athlete continued. “Truly embarrassing of the co-owner. Unfortunately shows the type of leader she is.”

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He said He SHALL give it, future active, indicative. He had not yet given it.



And He did give it:

BobRyan said:

35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

So then when His followers get stuck on the too-literal application of eating a human... Jesus disabuses them with vs 63

63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

At that point the teaching in vs 49-51 is fully explained

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As was noted, He said the flesh profits nothing because they were rejecting the true bread from heaven. Instead they wanted regular bread, which He already said at the beginning. They wanted food that would feed their flesh, rather than the words of life that are Spirit.

But you again ignore what He actually said. He did not say eating His flesh is worthless. He said:

That is the opposite of your contention that eating His flesh profits nothing.
He explicitly says it is food indeed, and drink indeed. Hardly a way to convince them it is all symbolic.


He speaks of the fellowship of abiding in Him through the flesh and blood. Which is what we see fulfilled:

BobRyan said:

On the contrary He points out that this is not at all speaking of cannibalism. Rather it is the symbolism He uses "for believing:" His WORD.

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No he says it is food and drink indeed. He does not say: " a symbolism for believing in me".

BobRyan said:

Matt 16:11 How is it that you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread? But beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12 Then they understood that He did not say to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

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Yes, there they misunderstood His teaching, thinking He was speaking of bread. And He corrected them there. Here we have something different. He does not correct them because they are being too literal. He states it is food indeed. It is drink indeed.

He says:


He will give, future.

And when they started taking offense at this, He did NOT say "oh you don't get it, it is symbolic. Why do you always think so literally?


Instead what He said was:


He says, you must eat it or you have no life in you, and it is food and drink indeed. The opposite of the situation in the context you post.

BobRyan said:

The hearers in both Matt 16 and John 6 took Him "too literally" and He corrects them on that point both times.

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No, in fact He said it is real food, and they must eat it. And He had already told them He WILL give it, future, for the life of the world.

BobRyan said:

In vs 31

John 6: 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.

Already bread, already came down. Jesus' teaching already existed.

58 This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.”

already bread
already came down
HE who EATS,,, not "someday in the future , he who shall eat"

68 Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life."
Peter was already "eating"

57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.”

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Yes, the bread already came down from heaven. But it has not yet been given for the life of the world. That is stated to be future.

Then He states the principle: He who eats this bread will live forever.

It is the present active participle, used substantively.


And while you contend it means they would have to take a bite out of Him right now, that is not accurate. We see a similar statement in John 7, and John definitively assigns it to something yet future.



Same construction with the present active participle but a FUTURE fulfillment.

And Because Peter stuck with the One Who Has the Words of Life He received the Spirit:


And because He stuck with the One Who Has the Words of Life He received the flesh indeed, and blood indeed.

Peace in Christ.

We have all repeated the errors of the past. The prophecies of yesterday applies to us today. The Word of God is living.

We do not hear the Word of Truth being preached by the man-based churches as they do not obey His voice nor receive correction. Truth is perished and is cut off from their mouth.

Jer 7:28-31 KJV
(28) But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.

The LORD has rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath.

What we have witnessed so far in the Christian world before us is the “generation of His wrath” and not the generation of His mercy. He has displayed His power upon the vessels of His wrath because of their disobedience. His glory does not appear upon the generation of His wrath.

(29) Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.

The children of Judah…those who are following in the footsteps of Judas their guide…have done evil in His sight.

They have set their abominations in the house which is called by His name to pollute it.

The abomination of desolation (“desolation” because He has rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath) is standing where it should not be found….in the holy place…in the house which is called by His name. His glory is not found there as it has departed. We must flee from "Judaea"...the land of Judas.

Mat 24:15-16 KJV
(15) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
(16) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

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Those MULTITUDES who are following in the footsteps of Judas have bought a field of blood.....the generation of His wrath....the flock of the slaughter. They fall "headlong" after the reward of the iniquity...they go after earthly things. They "burst asunder in the middle"...that is, they rejoice in their hearts. "All his bowel gushed out"...that is, they have no pity in them for the people they are leading astray.

Act 1:18-19 KJV
(18) Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
(19) And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

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The followers of Judas feed the flock of the slaughter....the generation of His wrath....the vessels of His wrath. They slay the people that they are supposed to be "feeding". It is a field of blood. The life of Jesus is not being made manifest in the mortal flesh of those they are preaching to. They are cutting His life and glory from being made manifest in the earth.

They "burst asunder in the middle" as they rejoice in their nurtured hearts: "Blessed be the LORD for I am rich". Their own shepherds...their own pastors PITY THEM NOT....which is another way of saying all their "bowels gush out".

Zec 11:4-6 KJV
(4) Thus saith the LORD my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter;
(5) Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
(6) For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.

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The abominations are man’s governing handwritings of ordinances they have set up highly in their churches to keep and serve. They should not be found there.

The man-based churches keep and serve their handwritings of ordinances (their statements of faith, church constitutions and by-laws, creeds, dogmas, etc, etc) rather than keep and serve God’s commandments which are written upon our hearts and minds. They judge others using their external handwritings as a standard.

The man-based churches all have at the core church handwritings to govern themselves by and judge others with.

Their gatherings around their church documents are polluting themselves. They are tainted by the works of man’s hands…his handwritings. They are unclean and we need to come out from among them and be separate and not be attached to the unclean thing.

Jeremiah 7:
(30) For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.

They have passed their governing documents down to their sons and daughters for them to keep and serve…burning them in the fire of His wrath that comes upon the children of disobedience. The church fathers have passed down their church handwritings of ordinances down to the generations after them to also keep and serve and so they also perish under His wrath.

(31) And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.

Professing themselves as wise, they became fools.

Rom 1:22-24 KJV
(22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

They change the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man. The glory of God has departed from the man-based churches as they have copied the nations around them in making governing documents for themselves and placing them in their churches. They have exchanged His glory for their images…their man-based governing handwritings which are patterned after the nations/ people of the outside world.

“Corruptible man” = the people of the outside. The nations are all likened to the animal kingdom who only mind earthly things.

(23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Therefore they are unclean. God gave them up to uncleanness. They dishonor their own mortal bodies between themselves. We must not be joined along with them or we are unclean. We must come out from among them and be separate.

(24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

MULTITUDES have gone down the broad way that leads to destruction.

They have all turned again to the “weak and beggarly elements” contained in their church handwritings of ordinances. They are doing service unto other “gods”.

“the weak and beggarly elements” =church handwriting of ordinances = other “gods”.

Gal 4:8-9 KJV
(8) Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
(9) But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

If we are dead with Christ from the “rudiments” of the world…the elements…the founding principles contained in governing documents of men, why as living in the world are we subjecting ourselves to ordinances?

MANY go to a man-based church where they have copied the nations around us (who do not know God ) and have put their own governing documents of men (the commandments and doctrines of men into their gatherings)…in the place where His name is being called.

Col 2:20-22
(20) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
(21) (Touch not; taste not; handle not;

We PERISH with the using of them. The generation of His wrath perishes in His fire (for our God is consuming fire) because they serve man’s church handwritings of commandments rather than His.

(22) Which all are to perish with the using) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

We are dead with Christ to the world’s (Egypt) governing documents. He has delivered us from out of the land of Egypt so-to-speak.

Exo 20:1-6
(1) And God spake all these words, saying,
(2) I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

We are not to have other gods before Him. We are not to have any “graven image”….handwritings graven by the lying pen of the church scribes.
3) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

The graven image is the handwriting of ordinances that are patterned in the likeness of the nations around us. They have their governmental documents (such as a “constitution”). We are not to be like them and do the same thing for our gatherings in His name. These governing documents of men are abominations that pollute us.

(4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

The man-based church “fathers” had made graven images for their “children” after them to bow down to and serve.

They made graven images….church handwritings of ordinances/dogmas…to keep and serve. These “images” are patterned in the likeness of the outside nations around us. The governing documents are made in the likeness of the people of the outside world…corruptible man.

The church fathers have them passed down from one generation to another as they are set up in exalted positions in their churches and they never move from them. The iniquity of the church fathers are then visited upon the children after them who also keep and serve their church fathers’ governing documents.

We are to keep and serve God’s commandments that are written upon our hearts and minds rather than keep and serve church graven images. We show that we love Him by keeping and serving His commandments.

Those who “hate” Him do not keep and serve His commandments but instead keep and serve the church handwritings of men.

(5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth of them that hate me;

But the FEW…the “thousands” …the vessels of His mercy…keep His commandments. He shows mercy to "Jacob".

(6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Whoever loves God keeps His commandments (in contrast to keeping the commandments of men that are contained in their handwritings).

1Jn 5:2-5 KJV
(2) By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
(3) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

We are to overcome the world…the orderly arrangement (Greek: kosmos) …organized religion …which is structured upon their church handwritings.

(4) For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
(5) Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Michie said:

August 2026​

For evangelization in the city
Let us pray that in large cities often marked by anonymity and loneliness we find new ways to proclaim the Gospel, discovering creative paths to build community.

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Lord. Hear our prayer

High Fidelity said:

And yet all of them were very firm about border control and I'm pretty sure Obama deported more than Trump under both administrations.

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That might be, but I'm not so sure. From what I understand, under the Obama administration, they counted "turnarounds" at the border as deportations. So that skews the numbers by quite a large amount. What is certain though, is that Biden allowed something like 20 million illegals to come through the border, and so far Trump has only managed to deport about a million of them (with the Democrats fighting him every step of the way, I might add). Can the US survive another 4-8 years of a Democratic administration where they open up the borders again?

The DSA has openly stated that as one of their goals - open borders.

Aldebaran said:

People were claiming that during Trump's first 4 years. The Democrats got cocky as a result and thought Kamala was going to defeat him the second time around. Result: Trump's second term in office.

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I'm not sure cocky is the right word. After midterms, Biden should have announced he was not going to run again. I doubt Harris would have won the nomination in that case. The way things worked out, they went with Harris because she'd get Biden's delegates. She still would be a much better President than the criminal we have in office now, but sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize you have a problem. I see gas prices in Indiana are set to jump 60 cents, which might get people's attention.

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