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A question concerning gravity... and the animations thereof

Here is another of my AI tests relevant to this thread and applicable to OpenAI's latest version ChatGPT-5.6 SOL which is reputably 'smarter' than version 5.5 which I have been using on this site.

Firstly I posed the question whether it was familiar with the following works which I had used in formulating my responses and is used in undergraduate applied mathematics.

Are you familiar with the following works?
(1) Vector analysis and an introduction to Tensor analysis (Schaum's Outline Series). Murray R Speigel.
(2) Introduction to General Relativity. H.A. Atwater.


Yes, I am familiar with both.

  1. Murray R. Spiegel, Schaum’s Outline of Theory and Problems of Vector Analysis and an Introduction to Tensor Analysis. The surname is spelled Spiegel, not “Speigel.” It is a calculation-oriented text covering vector algebra, differential vector operators, integral theorems, curvilinear coordinates and an introductory treatment of tensor notation and tensor operations. Its large collection of worked problems makes it especially useful for developing the mathematical techniques required before studying general relativity. (Google Books)
  2. H. A. Atwater, Introduction to General Relativity. This is a relatively compact introductory text of nine chapters covering special relativity, tensor methods, curved spacetime, Einstein’s field equations and standard applications of general relativity. It was intended as an accessible physics introduction rather than a comprehensive modern differential-geometric treatment. (Elsevier Shop)
They complement each other reasonably well. Spiegel supplies much of the computational background in vectors and elementary tensors, while Atwater applies tensor methods to spacetime and gravitation.

For the Gravity Probe B discussion, the most relevant material would be:

  • from Spiegel: curvilinear coordinates, tensors, covariant differentiation and transformations;
  • from Atwater: the metric, geodesics, Christoffel symbols, parallel transport, curvature and the weak-field gravitational equations.
One limitation is that Spiegel’s introductory tensor section may not develop manifolds, tangent spaces, differential forms and connections in the modern geometric language used in current general-relativity texts. Atwater likewise uses an older, comparatively coordinate-based presentation. Nevertheless, together they are adequate for working toward a mathematical description of the Gravity Probe B orbit, spin-vector transport and relativistic precession.
I requested ChatGPT-5.6 SOL to only concentrate on these two sources in coming up with a representation of spacetime curvature around the Earth using the Gravity Probe B results.

Only use these two references to develop a representation of spacetime curvature using a modelled cumulative deviation curve and an infinite number of tangent space slices.
You must show the spin deviations are defined by the Christoffel coefficients as the Gravity Probe B's orbit undergoes parallel transport.
Finally produce a spacetime diagram showing the spacetime curvature around earth on a spacetime diagram with the t-axis being vertical.


An explanation of Christoffel symbols and parallel transport was discussed in the following thread.

In curved space the projection vector does change direction.
This can be illustrated by the change of a projection vector as it moves along the arcs (parallel transported) on the surface of a sphere.

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The concept of the derivative in curved space needs to be redefined which factors in the changes in the projection vectors.
In this case we need to calculate the partial derivatives of the metric tensor components which define the geometry of the spacetime in which the projection vectors change.

Without going in specific details which would require a detailed knowledge of tensor analysis the derivative of a tensor known as the covariant derivative is defined as:

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The left hand side of the equation is the covariant operator applied to a vector v.
The first term on the right hand side is the normal partial derivative of the vector, the next term contains information how the metric tensor components g
uv change by calculating their partial derivatives which impacts on changes to the projection vector.

The operator in the second term is known as a Christoffel symbol and is defined.

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With this information which comes from both books, ChatGPT-5.6 SOL came up with the following depiction of spacetime around the Earth using an infinite number of slices unlike the 4 slices used by ChatGPT-5.5 in a previous post.

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Used to be a non believe now I am having strange spiritual experiences and nightmares ever since my mom converted

What exactly do you mean by a “demonic attachment”? That is not a clear biblical category. It could mean anything from demonic oppression to haunting or even just recurring frightening thoughts.

As I see it, nothing you have described establishes that a demon is attached to you. Dreams commonly incorporate recent fears, images, conversations, grief, religious concerns, and material viewed online. Just because in a dream you were given a date for your death, that doesn’t somehow mean you will die on that date. It does, however, fit a pattern often depicted in paranormal thrillers (e.g., The Ring).

As you implied, demons do not determine when you will die, and a date given in a dream should not be treated as revealed knowledge about your death. Life and death are in God’s hands.

This is part of the security found in the Christian faith. Those who belong to Christ belong wholly to him; they are indwelt and sealed by the Holy Spirit and cannot also be possessed or claimed by demonic powers. Demonic opposition can occur, as the book of Job illustrates, but demons can do nothing apart from God’s permission and can go no farther than he allows.

Christians do suffer or experience fear, but they are never outside God’s sovereign rule, never abandoned to hostile spiritual powers, and never in danger of being separated from Christ. The answer to fear of demons is therefore not superstition or trying to decode dreams, but taking refuge in Christ.
When I say demonic attachment I don’t really believe in possessions at all or haunting (I think this can only happen when u perform rituals that invite demons), more like a spiritual attachment like my pastor says. Even when I was agnostic I had a feeling that watching paranormal stuff might draw negative attention but because I didnr experience anything weird at the time I kept going and I was entertained by them. I totally stopped viewing paranormal content a while ago cus of these dreams. I firmly believed that it was not just a case of “stress” because this happened a year after my psychotic episode and months after my grandfathers passing, had it been stress I would have had those dreams long before when I was actively watching paranormal content. Only when my mom became Christian I started having these “demonic“ dreams and even when my mom became Christian I kinda didn’t believe in it until I saw those 2 parallel bright lines mysteriously at night. And yes I’ve heard of stuff like those movies and “don’t look or watch (x) or you will be cursed” it’s been a big fear since I was young. So I think some tging was trying to drag me away from Jesus even if my faith wasn’t strong yet
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Lucifer is not the proper name of Satan

It was your demand that was childish. "Would you" works much better than "you'll have too." Basic etiquette.


All that you have provided is hearsay evidence. How many of these same scholars say that the Book of Daniel was not composed by Daniel? I would bet a lot of them.

You still have not responded to my twice-asked statement and question:

Please state for the record whether or not you believe that Jude was inspired by the Holy Spirit, or was deceived in what he wrote about the prophecy of Enoch.
Yes. I think Jude incorrectly used Enoch as Scripture when it is not. It was composed in the third century BCE. It was not composed by the actual Enoch. It is an apocryphal and pseudepigraphal text. Jude also cites the Assumption of Moses, which is likewise a first-century Jewish apocryphal and pseudepigraphal text. Should we count that as Scripture also? Being angry and trying to belittle me in your pedantry isn't going to get you anywhere. Calling me arrogant doesn't make you right.

In fact, if you can't discuss this in a civilized manner, I would ask you to please stop talking to me. I'm not your child. I'm not beneath you. Nor am I arrogant for insisting on proof of your assertions when they conflict with the work of actual, published scholars. If you have proper evidence that Enoch is a genuine Old Testament canonical work predating Moses, just show me the proof of that. Scholars date it to the third century BCE through a variety of academic disciplines. If you say otherwise, the burden of proof is on you. If you disagree with that, then you don't know how scholarship works.
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Senator Ron Johnson says the [COVID-19] 'injection injured' are dying of suicide at increasing rates

During the shot years it appeared that individuals of certain political affiliations were more prone to receive the shot. Having worked for the government several years ago, It really solidified my mistrust of the government and career politicians.

Be Blessed, In Jesus's Name.

And that relates to the OP... how?
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Tongues Which Devise Destruction

Psalm 52:1-5 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

“1Why do you boast of evil, O mighty man?
The loving devotion of God endures all day long.
2Your tongue devises destruction
like a sharpened razor,
O worker of deceit.
3You love evil more than good,
falsehood more than speaking truth.
Selah
“4You love every word that devours,
O deceitful tongue.
5Surely God will bring you down to everlasting ruin;
He will snatch you up and tear you away from your tent;
He will uproot you from the land of the living.
Selah”

Those Who Boast of Evil

What does it look like if someone boasts of evil? It can mean to brag, to take pride in, or it can mean to put on display or to flaunt, to make it known to others. And that can be for various reasons, depending on the true intent of the hearts and minds of those who are putting their sins on display. For some, they may just want to brag about what they are getting away with because they take pride in the evil that they do. For others, they may be just wanting attention or the sympathies of others who may take pity on them.

But no matter the intent of the heart, which may be neither of the ones mentioned above, their sins are being put on display. And deceit is one of the aspects of the evil which they perform. And it is clear by their display that they love evil more than (or in place of) good, and they love speaking lies more than (or in place of) speaking the truth. And they could be lying about their sins and what they are actually doing, or about the degree of the sins, or about what leads them to sin or why they are still living in sin, etc.

Passing On The Blame

Some people, for whom sin is their practice, may speak lies about the cause of their sinful behaviors, perhaps to blame God or other humans for why they are on a sinful course, and/or for why they have not been delivered from their sinful course. For it is easier to cast the blame on God or on other humans rather than to take full responsibility for their sins themselves. For if they can put the blame on others for their failures then that relieves them of full responsibility for the evil that they do, which excuses them from fault.

But is it possible to be led into sin by other humans? Yes! The Scriptures cover the subject of those who deliberately, with full intention, lead other believers into sin, that they are committing a severe evil. But that does not relieve the one who sins of responsibility for their own sins. We all still have a choice to say “No!” or “Yes!” to sin. We all have a choice to say “No!” or “Yes!” to God. So both the one who leads the other to sin and the one who follows that lead into sin are guilty of sinning against God without excuse.

A “My Do It” Approach to Victory

There are some people who are captivated to sin who make many failed attempts at having victory over their sin because they take matters into their own hands, and they go at it the way that they choose rather than to follow the ways of the Lord and what the Scriptures teach is the road to victory over sin. And so victory over sin gets delayed because they keep trying in their own strength and according to their own decisions on how to go about this. For they let pride get in the way to having true victory.

And those who continue on this path, doing it their way, and not God’s way, they continue on a path of destruction, and so the same sins keep getting repeated over again. And if they do not change course, and if they do not yield to God’s control, and let go and let God, the ultimate end for them will be that they will be brought down to everlasting ruin, and their lives will be taken from them, and hell (not heaven) will be their eternal destiny because they loved their sins more than they loved God, and so they did not change.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 5:10,15,21; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

So, we all need to take this seriously. We cannot play with sin and think that God will be okay with that. He is not! Might we sin sometimes? It is possible (1 John 2:1-2). But if sin is what we practice, by habit, and not obedience to God, we will not have salvation from sin nor eternal life with God. By faith in Jesus Christ we all must deny self, die to sin, and obey God in life practice.

Tongues Which Devise Destruction
An Original Work / July 30, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


The Battle for Truth

Based off Malachi 1-4
An Original Work / May 18, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I love you. Honor me.
Tell the truth. You’ll be free.
Sing My praise all your days.
I will give all you need.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

Turn from sin; cleansed within.
Stand in awe of My Name.
Teach what’s true. Walk in peace.
Follow Christ, in His ways.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

Show to God faithfulness.
Do not be adult’rous.
Do not shed shallow tears.
Do not be insincere.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I have sent messengers,
Who have giv’n my address.
They call for repentance,
And they warn of judgment.

Truth is marching, truth is marching.

I, the Lord, do not change,
So return – blessings gain:
Healing comes; joyfulness;
Freedom from your distress.

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"The golden age of America begins right now." What is it?

My economics foo is (admittedly) lacking but combined with the 3.5% inflation rate for June ‘26, wouldn’t this suggest that the economy is shrinking but inflation is keeping the numbers ticking upwards?
AIUI, GDP figures are reported in 'real dollars' so inflation has already been taken into account.
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Christians face persecution. Ebola outbreak impacts Churches. Historic Church destroyed by regime.

  • Christians in many parts of India risk arrest and harassment for forced conversion even for simple acts of worship or prayer.
    July 30, 2026 India​

  • Christians, Former Extremist Face Persecution​

    Four Christians, including a former extremist, are in hiding after being harassed. As a young man, Mukesh joined a Hindu extremist group but became interested in dating a Christian woman who shared the gospel with him. After he placed his trust in Christ, they married and began a church that grew to more than 60 Christians. In 2025, Mukesh, his wife and two associates were returning home from a ministry trip when three vehicles followed them. The men in the vehicles were armed with bamboo sticks and forced the four to stop, accusing Mukesh of changing the religion of other men and harassing Mukesh's wife. Read More.
  • Jul. 30, 2026 | Congo, Democratic Republic of the​

    Ebola Outbreak Impacts Local Churches

    [9] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Churches in DRC.
    Churches in western DRC, like this large one in Bunia, face great challenges.
    A front-line worker reported that the Ebola outbreak has increased pressure on churches in the DRC as they carry out their ministry. "Pray for those ministering within the local church while they serve as critical front-line responders," he asked. "Many people don't seek medical attention soon enough or refuse to change their burial rituals, allowing the disease to spread rapidly." Read More.
  • Jul. 30, 2026 | Iran​

    Historic Church Destroyed by Regime

    [10] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Christians in Iran.
    Iranian Christians are facing increased pressure.
    On June 4, 2026, workmen under orders from the Iranian regime bulldozed the Evangelical Church of Mashhad, Iran, without explanation. The church was around 80 years old but had been closed by Iranian officials for more than two decades. Still, some Iranian Christians hoped that it would one day reopen, despite a 2012 government ban on Iranian churches holding any services in Farsi. Read More.

Aliens, UFOs and the demonic: Thinking like Christians about the weird stuff

How do you know I'm guessing
Unless you've had some kind of personal revelation, or some other source of arcane information, you're guessing.
and how do you know it is not better than yours?

No reason to believe it is.
Egad, there is much physical detail not given in scripture about most events.

Elijah was taken up into the sky by a vehicle described as what today would be a rocket ship.
Yeah, chariots of rire drawn by horses of fire could easily be mistaken for Saturn V boosted rocket.

Jesus, according to Luke "was taken up".
Yeah, had to be spacemen in flying saucers.
The vehicle was not described
ButI'll bet you're certain it looked just like whatever you reckon a 1st century spaceship would have loked like.
but he did not ascend like a Hindu guru from a children's illustrated Bible story book
Does that happen often in illustrated in books of children;s Bible stories?
; unless you believe the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi about levitation
I'm not familiar with the Yogi's opinion on much of anything; due to lack of interest.
, you would have to conclude that some physical conveyance was involved
Because what else could it have been, right?
and that to do what it did would be more advanced than what the present state of aerospace engineering can do. How would such a vehicle be described?
Something out of "Ancient Astronuts"? I mean, that's even on teevee.
You are weak on support of your claims so let me help you a bit.
That's OK, I've heard the "Their Powers Are Beyond Our Understanding" ad nauseum from Flying Saucer enthusiasts.
The first time the official U.S. govt (USG) report on UFOs/UAPs was published as Project Blue Book in the late 1950s, it was stated that of the thousands of evidentiary sources examined, only a small fraction could not be explained. (Though small in fraction, it was still large in number.) So you might have that kind of support for your unsupported claim.
Or I might have a more than passing knoedge of how things work, and litle inclination to "explain" things ine terms of superstitous blatherskite. Your mileage seems to vary.
Given your sparse support in wafting out your opinions, I can well imagine that you might.
I do have to give you points for imagination.
So why are your even responding here? And why pick on "folks"? Why not try us engineers instead?
BS in Electrical Engineering from Tennessee Tech, Class of 75. Y tu? A doctorate in Crypto Engineering, your dissertation being on "How To Negate the Laws of Physics", perhaps
Why should we believe you?
I've have though an old engineer like you would have understood what I was talking about. Are you a Civil Engineer, perhaps?
Given what you have stated thus far, your opinion is uninformed about aerospace technology.
Really? Help me, then, what aeronatucal engineering principles allow alow an aircraft to acceleate from a dead stop to, what was it, 45K mph, was it? , flash away below the horizon, stop, turn 180 drgrees, return to roughly its original position, where it again stopped. I'm keen to her how that works; that's pretty impressive stuff. Onliest way I know to do that is for the "object" to be completely massless, and frictionless. Once again, I'm keen to hear your "explantion".
One of yours? Not one of mine.

And what of the category of persons who have no vested interest in a particular outcome
But it;s actually a matter of faith for the Flying Saucer Faithful, isn't it? Y'all know there are magic spacemen driving physics defying flying saucers who can do anything.
but who know enough physics to know that there is no human explanation for the observed motion unless some secret advanced technology is involved.
Or unless the "object" in question is massless. Your grasp of Physics should be sufficient to understand that. And you should still retain enough of your engineering education to acknowledge that the ability to "defy the laws of Physics" is, for all practicle purposes, non-existent for anything possessing mass. Barring magic, of course, which I do. If youare ready to invoke magic as an "explanation" of anything, then we have nothing to talk about, You're free to just make up rules as you go.

But you wouldn't want that, would you?
Dunno. I think that Doc Smoth's "Beigenholm Converter" was an elegant solutiuon to interstellar flight. It simply negated inertia in the vessel when it was "free", and restored it (at it's intrinsic velocty) when "inert".
It gave the story a more "realistic" feel than just invoking magic.
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Lord please take me in the rapture

Gonna quote and concur on the sentiment herein expressed. I feel a bit bad for turning this into a thread disputing the rapture as a doctrine when I think the sentiment OP is expressing goes beyond that. God created us to know, love, and serve Him here, and then be happy with Him in Heaven. The hard work of our sanctification is here, on Earth--Heaven is the goal.
Amen and Amen!
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

Federal judge denies DOJ motion for Portland police protest footage

A judge on Friday denied a U.S. Department of Justice motion that sought to compel Portland to share police body camera footage and documents related to its handling of protests outside the federal immigration enforcement building, finding it was filed in “bad faith and with unclean hands.”

The Justice Department sought the material first on Oct. 3 and again on Oct. 29 in an effort to enforce one provision of a longstanding settlement agreement it reached with the city in 2014, saying it was investigating “potential viewpoint discrimination.”

The city’s settlement, approved in 2014, was aimed specifically at reducing unnecessary or excessive force by Portland police against people suffering from a mental health crisis, city attorneys argued.

[Presumably Nick Sortor.]

Sortor’s lawyer later filed a notice to sue the Portland Police Bureau, alleging bias by the bureau’s leaders against conservatives after his arrest on a disorderly conduct allegation which was dropped by the Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office days later.

Simon highlighted that [Assistant Attorney General] Dhillon also shared a social media post from Sortor on Oct. 3, using “strong language of a threatening nature.” Dhillon reported a Sortor comment about a federal investigation into Portland police with her own, writing: “Portland: It’s FO time. Buckle up.” FO is shorthand for “find out.”

“That is neither language nor tone of a good-faith investigation by the United States Department of Justice,” Simon wrote. “Instead, it exhibits all the hallmarks of a threat and attempted intimidation.”
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Truths of the Final Age

2 Timothy 3:1-17 Remember, the final age of this world is to be a time of turmoil! People will love nothing but self and money, they will be boastful, arrogant and abusive. Disobedient to parents, devoid of gratitude, piety and natural affection. They will be uncontrolled in their violence, hating all goodness, perfidious, foolhardy and self important. They will love their pleasures more than their God. While preserving the outward form of religion, actually, they deny its power. Have nothing to do with them.
Persecution will indeed come to everyone who wants to lead a godly life as a follower of Christ Jesus, while evil doers and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But for your part, stand by the truths you have learned and are assured of, because you are familiar with the Holy scriptures which have the power to make you wise and lead you into salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
All inspired scripture has its use for teaching the truth, refuting error and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be capable and equipped for good works of every kind.


2 Timothy 4:1-5 Before God and before Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, I charge you solemnly by His coming appearing and Kingdom reign – to proclaim the gospel, press it home, in season and out of season, use argument, reproof and encouragement with all the patience that teaching requires.

For the time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will follow his own ideas and will gather crowds to hear whatever they fancy. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn aside to myths.
But, you must keep your head whatever happens; put up with hardship, work to spread the gospel and discharge all the duties of your calling.


1 Timothy 1:3-11 I asked you, Timothy, to instruct certain people to refrain from teaching erroneous doctrines and devoting themselves to interminable myths and fruitless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculations that do nothing to further God’s plan for humans, that works through faith in Him. The goal of this Command is love, which comes from a pure heart, a good conscience and a genuine faith. Through a lack of these attributes, some have gone astray into a plethora of theories and false notions. They set out to be teachers of the Law, but they do not know what they are talking about or the true meaning of the Word.

We all know the Law is a good thing, if it is used properly, it’s there not just for the righteous, but is necessary for the lawless and sinful, the godless and worldly, the murderers and fornicators, perverts, liars, perjurers, in fact all whose behaviour flouts the glorious Gospel of God.
Ref: Revised English Bible

The end of this era, will be a time of turmoil, Paul may be referring to the Tribulation period, but we have for the last 200 years experienced an increasing proliferation of wars and disasters. Matthew 24:6-8

Persecution will come to everyone who follows Jesus, Hebrews 12:8 This totally refutes any ‘pre-trib/wrath rapture to heaven’. 1 Peter 4:12 However, the faithful Christians will be taken to a place of safety on earth, during the Great Tribulation. Revelation 12:14

While preserving the outward form of religion, they deny its power. Many, so called Christian Churches have deviated so far from the true Gospel, they are no longer a Church of God. Isaiah 58, Jude 1-25, Revelation 3:14-22

The time has come when people refuse sound teaching, they believe false theories, ignore, allegorise or place Bible prophecy into past history, so have no proper understanding of what the Lord has planned and will happen soon. Isaiah 29:13-14, Isaiah 30:8-11

False teachers are more prevalent than ever, promoting their erroneous doctrines. Ministries, TV shows, books, etc, on the end times are a big business. Their judgement comes, false teachers will meet their end on the Day of wrath. Jeremiah14:13-16, Isaiah 56:9-12

Texas is poised to require millions of students to study Bible stories

#20 But what does this have to do with you calling out your brothers?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

It we wouldn't want our children forced to study other religions or Christian theology not taught in our Church, we should not force other people's children to study ours.
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Dozens hospitalized with cyclosporiasis as cases of gastrointestinal illness spike in 31 states

It would seem as if there's still some enforcement and regulatory oversight.
Its a big swamp for one little DOGE to drain.

....If it were me, I'd be focusing more of the finite time and resources on inspecting foods sourced from countries that have weaker (or more potentially corrupt) domestic inspection regimes. In the case of Canada, their food (and food safety) standards are higher than ours, so I'd be okay with redirecting half of the inspection staff currently at the Northern Border, down to the Southern Border, and pre-approving most packaged/sealed goods coming in from Canada.
Seems reasonable. But I think its politically harder to announce a specific enforcement stand down than to just slowly starve the whole system of resources across the board.
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The Timeline to 1844 came from Bible Scholars and believers not William Miller

Thats not for me to judge, God makes it clear... Acts 17:30
I would like to see these churches they claim are keeping the Sabbath, are doing so, to honor the 4th commandment. The church this person gave as an example, when you actually pull up their own stated beliefs, they offer Saturday night mass (Sabbath is Friday evening to Sabbath evening) as a way to honor Sunday, not stated to honor the Sabbath and 4th commandment. God looks at our heart, its not just going through motions, but our reasoning matters too. Also the Sabbath has always been more than church service, its part of it, but according to God, we are to keep the entire day holy unto the LORD Exo20:8-11 Isa 58:13
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Apalachee High School: Multiple shooting victims at high school, one person arrested

Father sentenced to 15 years in prison in Georgia high school shooting carried out by teenage son

[Judge] Primm said the father was convicted because "the warning lights were flashing brighter and brighter" and he didn't get his son help or remove his access to guns.

"No parent thinks that their child is going to be the next school shooter, but it became more and more obvious that something bad was going to happen," Primm said.

The judge told Colin Gray that if he had used gun locks or removed the ammunition from his house, "you wouldn't be here today."

Primm sentenced the father to 15 years confinement for each second-degree murder count. Those and lesser sentences on his other counts will run concurrent with one another, for a total 15-year prison sentence, the judge said.
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Catholic Marriage

As with any Sacrament, to be valid requires proper matter, form, and intention. With Marriage these are:

1. Proper matter (one baptized man and one baptized woman consenting to the Sacrament
2. Proper form (The wedding vows, a free mutual consent from each)
3. Proper intention (permanence, fidelity, free, and fruitfulness)
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Disputed doctrine.

Saint Paul wrote the following words about erroneous doctrines:
1Ti 1:3-11 As I exhorted you when going to Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may command certain ones not to teach a different doctrine, (4) nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the stewardship from God which is by faith. (5) But the goal of our command is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and an unhypocritical faith. (6) For some, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, (7) wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.​
(8) But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, (9) knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and godless, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, (10) for sexually immoral persons, for homosexuals, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, (11) according to the gospel of the glory of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.​
And here is what THE APOSTLE PETER wrote about Paul in 2 Peter 3:16 !!

#1 AS. // KAI is aN ADVERB

#2 ALSO // EN is a CONJUNTION

#3 IN // EN. is a PREPOSTION

#4 ALL. //. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#5 EPISTLES //. EPISTOLE. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#6 SPEAKING // LALEO. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#7 IN // EN is a PREPOSITION

#8 THEM. // AUTOS. is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#9 OF. // PEN is a PREPOSITION

#10 THESE THINGS //. TOUTON in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the NEUTER in. the PLURAL

#11 IN. // EN PRPOSITION

#12. WHICH // HOS. is a RELATIVE PRONOUN in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#13. ARE // ESTI. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#14 SOME THINGS //. TIS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the NEUTER

#15 HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD. //. DYSNOETOS. ion. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL in. the NEUER

#16 WHICH // HOS. is a RELATIVE PRONOUN in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL in. the NEUTER

#17 THEY THAT // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE n. the PLURAL

#18 ARE UNLERNED // AMATHES. in the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL in. the NEUTER

#19 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#20. UNSTABLE // ASTEBLOO. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

#21 WREST // STREBLOO in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLUAL

#22. AS. // is an ADVERB

#23. ALSO // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#24. THE // is a DEFINITE ARTICLE is a ACCUATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#25. OTHER. // LOIPOS is ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#26 SCRIPTURES //. GRAPHE. is a ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#27 UNTO // PROS is a PREPOSTION

# 28 THEIR // AUTO is a PERSONAL POSSISSIVE PRONOUN in. the GENITIVE CASE in the PLRAL

#29 OWN // IDIO. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#30 DESTUCTION //. APOLEIO. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR


#A And we see that even PETER did not understand what. Pauls GOSPEL.

#B. AND IN. ACTS 15:11 SAYS BUT we believe through the GRACE of. the LORd WE SHALL BE SAVED

as they ALSO. !!

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