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BPPLEE · Saturday at 3:45 PM

Trump was right. Six months post-Maduro, Venezuelan recovery defies critics

Six months after U.S. forces captured Maduro, the predicted chaos has not materialized. Here’s what the skeptics got wrong

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Trump Was Right. Six Months Post-Maduro, Venezuelan Recovery Defies Critics

Nithavela · Saturday at 3:53 PM

BPPLEE said:
Trump was right. Six months post-Maduro, Venezuelan recovery defies critics

Six months after U.S. forces captured Maduro, the predicted chaos has not materialized. Here’s what the skeptics got wrong

www.newsweek.com

Trump Was Right. Six Months Post-Maduro, Venezuelan Recovery Defies Critics

Behind a paywall. Not saying that it isn't a convincing argument, but I can't read it. I did try to search for news about Venezuela's current economic situation, but mostly found stuff about the earthquake.

Aldebaran · Saturday at 3:58 PM

Here's what I got as an AI overview using Google Gemini:

Venezuela’s post-Maduro economy shows signs of an oil-led rebound and market reform, driven by increased production, private investment, and renewed international engagement. Key developments include rising oil production, economic liberalization reforms, and persistent high inflation. [1, 2]

Oil Sector and Revenue Growth

- Production Rebound: Crude output surpassed 1 million barrels per day, reaching over 1.2 million bpd by April 2026—the highest level in more than seven years. [1, 2]
- Exports and Partners: Exports recovered significantly with shipments to U.S. and Spanish refineries, facilitated by flexible licensing and operations involving companies like Chevron. [1, 2]
- Projected Revenue: Estimated 2026 oil revenues approach $22.1 billion, a 76.8% increase over previous levels, supported by favorable global energy conditions. [1, 2]

Economic Reforms and Policy Shifts

- Private Investment: Acting leadership under Delcy Rodríguez has advanced laws rolling back past nationalizations, opening hydrocarbons, mining, and other public assets to private and foreign operators. [1, 2]
- International Engagement: Venezuela re-engaged with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and adjusted domestic policies to stabilize the heavily dollarized foreign-exchange market. [1, 2]
- GDP Projections: The IMF projects real GDP growth to reach around 4% for 2026, marking a moderate stabilization after historic economic collapse. [1, 2]

Persistent Hardships and Inflation

- High Inflation: Despite slowing down, annualized inflation remains extreme, projected to hover above 150% through the end of 2026.
- Living Costs: Everyday goods and basic staples remain expensive relative to local wages, maintaining economic pressure on standard households despite macroeconomic growth. [1, 2, 3]

BPPLEE · Saturday at 3:58 PM

Nithavela said:
Behind a paywall. Not saying that it isn't a convincing argument, but I can't read it. I did try to search for news about Venezuela's current economic situation, but mostly found stuff about the earthquake.

All I can find is how bad things are since the earthquake

Nithavela · Saturday at 4:09 PM

BPPLEE said:
All I can find is how bad things are since the earthquake

Can't blame Trump for that one, and I can readily believe that under Maduro, it would be even worse.

I guess we'll have to see how this shakes out. In any case, a victory round seems premature.

wing2000 · Sunday at 8:44 AM

Aldebaran said:
Here's what I got as an AI overview using Google Gemini:

Venezuela’s post-Maduro economy shows signs of an oil-led rebound and market reform, driven by increased production, private investment, and renewed international engagement. Key developments include rising oil production, economic liberalization reforms, and persistent high inflation. [1, 2]

Oil Sector and Revenue Growth

Production Rebound: Crude output surpassed 1 million barrels per day, reaching over 1.2 million bpd by April 2026—the highest level in more than seven years. [1, 2]

Exports and Partners: Exports recovered significantly with shipments to U.S. and Spanish refineries, facilitated by flexible licensing and operations involving companies like Chevron. [1, 2]

Projected Revenue: Estimated 2026 oil revenues approach $22.1 billion, a 76.8% increase over previous levels, supported by favorable global energy conditions. [1, 2]

Economic Reforms and Policy Shifts

Private Investment: Acting leadership under Delcy Rodríguez has advanced laws rolling back past nationalizations, opening hydrocarbons, mining, and other public assets to private and foreign operators. [1, 2]

International Engagement: Venezuela re-engaged with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and adjusted domestic policies to stabilize the heavily dollarized foreign-exchange market. [1, 2]

GDP Projections: The IMF projects real GDP growth to reach around 4% for 2026, marking a moderate stabilization after historic economic collapse. [1, 2]

Persistent Hardships and Inflation

High Inflation: Despite slowing down, annualized inflation remains extreme, projected to hover above 150% through the end of 2026.

Living Costs: Everyday goods and basic staples remain expensive relative to local wages, maintaining economic pressure on standard households despite macroeconomic growth. [1, 2, 3]

Say, how have Venezuelans benefited? When is the next election?

wing2000 · Sunday at 8:49 AM

First paragraph of the two that we can see without forking over 4.99 to Newsweek:

Representative Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, drew the parallel directly. “This is exactly the euphoria we felt in 2002 when our military took down the Taliban in Afghanistan,” Himes said, “in 2003 when our military took out Saddam Hussein, and in 2011 when we helped remove Muammar Qaddafi from power in Libya.”

The Trump approach would have been to bomb Hussein, demand concessions, repeat bombing until Hussein complies and if not, kill him and appoint a yes man while keeping the the Hussein regime in place.

DaisyDay · Sunday at 9:51 AM

BPPLEE said:
Trump was right. Six months post-Maduro, Venezuelan recovery defies critics

Six months after U.S. forces captured Maduro, the predicted chaos has not materialized. Here’s what the skeptics got wrong

www.newsweek.com

Trump Was Right. Six Months Post-Maduro, Venezuelan Recovery Defies Critics

Maybe, hopefully. But, from the article:

When President Donald Trump ordered an early morning raid to arrest Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in January and brought him to the United States to face trial on narco-terrorism charges, the warnings came fast. House Armed Services Committee ranking Democratic member Adam Smith cautioned that United States military intervention always “ends badly,” citing Iraq and Libya as examples.

Representative Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, drew the parallel directly. “This is exactly the euphoria we felt in 2002 when our military took down the Taliban in Afghanistan,” Himes said, “in 2003 when our military took out Saddam Hussein, and in 2011 when we helped remove Muammar Qaddafi from power in Libya.”

Does invasion and overthrow generally work out well for us?

Aldebaran · Sunday at 11:30 AM

wing2000 said:
Say, how have Venezuelans benefited? When is the next election?

A country's economy improving is beneficial.

Aldebaran · Sunday at 11:31 AM

wing2000 said:
First paragraph of the two that we can see without forking over 4.99 to Newsweek:

Representative Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, drew the parallel directly. “This is exactly the euphoria we felt in 2002 when our military took down the Taliban in Afghanistan,” Himes said, “in 2003 when our military took out Saddam Hussein, and in 2011 when we helped remove Muammar Qaddafi from power in Libya.”

The Trump approach would have been to bomb Hussein, demand concessions, repeat bombing until Hussein complies and if not, kill him and appoint a yes man while keeping the the Hussein regime in place.

Regardless of method, either way could work.

Aldebaran · Sunday at 11:33 AM

DaisyDay said:
Maybe, hopefully. But, from the article:

When President Donald Trump ordered an early morning raid to arrest Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in January and brought him to the United States to face trial on narco-terrorism charges, the warnings came fast. House Armed Services Committee ranking Democratic member Adam Smith cautioned that United States military intervention always “ends badly,” citing Iraq and Libya as examples.

Representative Jim Himes, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, drew the parallel directly. “This is exactly the euphoria we felt in 2002 when our military took down the Taliban in Afghanistan,” Himes said, “in 2003 when our military took out Saddam Hussein, and in 2011 when we helped remove Muammar Qaddafi from power in Libya.”

Does invasion and overthrow generally work out well for us?

It worked against Japan, and again against Hitler's regime.

DaisyDay · Sunday at 12:11 PM

Aldebaran said:
It worked against Japan, and again against Hitler's regime.

Yeah, it's a good thing in those cases that we just up and decided to change their governments.

wing2000 · Sunday at 12:57 PM

Aldebaran said:
A country's economy improving is beneficial.

...is beneficial to whom? Delcy Rodríguez and the regime that has held power?

It's amazing how suddenly the Venezuelan regime is viewed favorably by some sectors.

DaisyDay · Sunday at 2:51 PM

Aldebaran said:
A country's economy improving is beneficial.

Stability is an improvement.

Aldebaran · Sunday at 3:34 PM

DaisyDay said:
Yeah, it's a good thing in those cases that we just up and decided to change their governments.

You originally asked, "Does invasion and overthrow generally work out well for us?" I answered accordingly.
Now you move the goalposts with it being, "we just up and decided to change their governments".

Aldebaran · Sunday at 3:37 PM

wing2000 said:
...is beneficial to whom? Delcy Rodríguez and the regime that has held power?

It's amazing how suddenly the Venezuelan regime is viewed favorably by some sectors.

Getting Maduro out of there has that effect. Don't you prefer that over us having to bomb his drug boats to keep those drugs from coming here?

DaisyDay · Sunday at 4:03 PM

Aldebaran said:
You originally asked, "Does invasion and overthrow generally work out well for us?" I answered accordingly.
Now you move the goalposts with it being, "we just up and decided to change their governments".

We didn't just invade and overthrow them, Japan bombed us and Germany declared war on us - so no, the goalposts are firmly where they were before.

Aldebaran · Sunday at 4:23 PM

DaisyDay said:
We didn't just invade and overthrow them, Japan bombed us and Germany declared war on us - so no, the goalposts are firmly where they were before.

Japan killed fewer people at Pearl Harbor than died in 9/11, and sank a few ships as opposed to "knocking a couple buildings over", which some people seem to think wasn't enough to go to war over.
Germany never even attacked the United States, did they? A "declaration" is nothing. People declare things all the time.

Look, if going after Japan and Germany was righteous, then so is making sure Iran doesn't possess a nuclear weapon. Iran's leadership has declared things too; things which are often dismissed by people who simply don't like Trump.

DaisyDay · Sunday at 5:31 PM

Aldebaran said:
Japan killed fewer people at Pearl Harbor than died in 9/11, and sank a few ships as opposed to "knocking a couple buildings over", which some people seem to think wasn't enough to go to war over.

Afghanistan didn't do 9/11

but we wrecked them anyway

because the Saudis are our friends.

Aldebaran said:
Germany never even attacked the United States, did they? A "declaration" is nothing. People declare things all the time.

Japan did its ally Germany declared war on us while we were allies with countries that Germany did attack. A formal declaration of war does mean quite a bit in the geopolitical world - even if not to you.

Aldebaran said:
Look, if going after Japan and Germany was righteous,

I don't know if it was righteous, but we did it before I was born so it's not as though I had any say about it.

Aldebaran said:
then so is making sure Iran doesn't possess a nuclear weapon.

Why? And they weren't working on one until Trump unilaterally broke the agreement and imposed sanctions.

Aldebaran said:
Iran's leadership has declared things too; things which are often dismissed by people who simply don't like Trump.

It's a horrible thing to cry "Death to America!" but bombing a girls' school is defensible to people who simply like Trump.

Aldebaran · Sunday at 7:46 PM

DaisyDay said:
I don't know if it was righteous, but we did it before I was born so it's not as though I had any say about it.

I'll remember to use that line the next time someone condemns the United States because of slavery.

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