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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Well, off we go

Trump Voter Angry as ICE Take Nanny—‘I Thought We Were Targeting Criminals’

A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump told Newsweek that federal agents detained her longtime childcare provider at a routine immigration check-in and later notified her that she faced more than $1.8 million in civil immigration penalties.

Mendrek-Laske said Basele helped raise her four children and worked for the family for years as a childcare provider and caregiver.

"She's really part of our family," she said. "We have no family in the area. It's been the three of us, really."

Mendrek-Laske said she and her husband are conservative voters who supported Trump's calls for stronger border security.

"I don't think this is really what I voted for if I was voting for immigration reform," Mendrek-Laske told Newsweek in a phone interview. "I thought we were targeting criminals."

"Joyce is really the epitome of the American Dream. She's raised two kids on her own. She's worked two jobs for 15 years. She fully supports herself. She's been completely compliant."

....someone wasn't paying attention to Trump's campaign promises.
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Critical Elements

I like the conclusion: "because God could", but that does not tell us, "why did He want to?"
Would God's Love not compel God to make humans, "because He could", for the sack of those individuals who would humbly accept His Love, even at the cost of those who will reject His Love?
I do not see God needing "witnesses" and there are already angels.
I view Gods need for unbiased jurors at the trial of Satan, as a requirement and perfectly sensible.
Angels are Gods servants in heaven and some did follow Lucifer in his rebellion,, but humans are more like God, with free will.

Isaiah 43:9-12 All the nations are gathered together.....at the Great White Throne Judgment. The people say: That is the Truth and the Lord declares: You are My witnesses.......
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U.S. military ready to cut support to Scouting America, accusing them of attacking 'boy-friendly spaces'

Hegseth was never a Boy Scout, and has said he grew up in a church-based youth group that focuses on memorizing Bible verses.

The Scouting Oath still requires Scouts to be Reverent:

Be reverent toward God. Be faithful in your religious duties. Respect the beliefs of others.

Reverence?
Respect?

Yea, he would not have done well in the boy scouts.
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A rural Nebraska clinic blames its closing on Trump’s Medicaid cuts. Patients don’t buy it. "Horse Feathers"

Ahead of midterms, Republicans run ads after cutting healthcare funds

Republicans campaigning in swing districts are running ads about healthcare after facing criticism of the cuts in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Many of these ads target voters over 35 years old and focus on three topics: Medicaid fraud, rural hospitals and affordability.

In response to criticism over cuts to rural hospitals, Congress included the Rural Healthcare Transformation Act (RHTA), co-sponsored by Lawler, in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. The $50 billion in funding from the RHTA doesn't offset the $137 billion in Medicaid cuts that would directly affect rural areas, though, according to an analysis by KFF.

There's also an expected gap in implementation, with the threat of "clawbacks," where money is taken back if states don't meet outcomes.

Key changes [in the BBB], like the reduction of Medicaid funding, don't occur until after this year's midterms, so candidates see this as an opportunity to emphasize other, popular parts of the law, like tax cuts.

Republican lawmakers are laying the groundwork for blame if the opposing party gains power in the future, according to political scientist Daniel Hopkins.

"Some of the key changes, for instance, [like] the reductions in Medicaid funding, are scheduled to kick in years down the road," he said. "That time disconnect makes it really hard for voters to tangibly feel and react to changes that are in the future."
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The Lives of the Popes, Part One of Infinity

The Lives of the Popes - The Sword of Peter

This installment of Lives of the Popes covers two popes of the early 5th century, the first of whom passed on multiple complicated situations for his successor to resolve.

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So far, at least nine (now ~40) (now ~160) (now hundreds) judges, including Trump appointees, have ruled against Trump orders

Trump loses the fifth straight time on appeal — thanks to his own judge

President Donald Trump has lost again at another appeals court over the mass detention policy he's pushed out over the past year.

MS NOW producer Kyle Cheney reported that the 9th Circuit rejected U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) detention policy. It's the fifth straight loss at an appellate court.

Of the five courts that have ruled this way so far, Politico cited, are the Atlanta-based 11th Circuit, the New York-based 2nd Circuit, the Colorado-based 10th Circuit and the Cincinnati-based 6th Circuit, explained the report. Only two courts, the 5th and the 8th Circuit, have ruled in Trump's favor. There are court battles in four other circuits forthcoming.
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Baltics and Poland warn Russia could launch limited military or hybrid provocation against NATO

NATO forced to scramble fighter jets to intercept Russian plane again

Polish Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz said the aircraft was flying in international airspace without a flight plan and with its transponder turned off.

A pair of F-16s intercepted a Russian Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft some 40 kilometers (24 miles) north of Kołobrzeg.
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U.S.-Iran Conflict: Oil Hits $120/Barrel

Major oil companies reap massive profits as US and Iran fighting drives energy prices higher

“If you’re a company like a U.S. (oil) producer, even a U.S.-based international company like an Exxon or Chevron who’s got lots of production outside the Gulf, things are good."
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The Colorado River, a lifeline for seven states, is drying up at its source

You can't extract what isn't there.

At 50% humidity (ETA: at 20°C) (I searched "water per volume of air for a given humidity") there is less than 9 g/m³. That means it would take around 111 cubic meters to get a single liter of water (if you could get all of it). This means that it would take extracting the water from 105,278 cubic meters to get 250 gallons of water. (And if you're in Arizona, it'll take more than double that.)

I've seen various videos debunking this kind of thing. The only places where such technology works are places that don't need the water (i.e., humid places).

Color me skeptical.
But theres a decent amount of air floating around out there.

Plus Lukes Uncle did it on Tatooine, so there you go.
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All You Who Fear God

Psalm 66:10-12 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

For You, O God, have tested us;
You have refined us like silver.
11You led us into the net;
You laid burdens on our backs.
12You let men ride over our heads;
we went through fire and water,
but You brought us into abundance.

Faith in Jesus Christ is not “smooth sailing.” It is not absent of problems, difficulties, and obstacles. Sufferings and persecutions are to be expected if our faith in our Lord is genuine biblical faith. Why? Because opposition, persecutions, and sufferings are what humble us and what help to mold us into the likeness of our Lord Jesus. They draw us closer to the Lord, if we will let them. And they make us more determined to live the life God has for us to live, and to share the truth of the gospel with the people of the world.

Psalm 66:13-15 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

13I will enter Your house with burnt offerings;
I will fulfill my vows to You—
14the vows that my lips promised
and my mouth spoke in my distress.
15I will offer You fatlings as burnt offerings,
with the fragrant smoke of rams;
I will offer bulls and goats.

Now the “house of God” is not in a physical temple or building. It is not a place we go to once or twice a week for “worship” of God. We who believe in Jesus with genuine biblical faith are now the house of God, where God dwells by His Spirit. We are the temple of God. And we are to worship God in spirit and in truth every day of the week, throughout the day. And biblical worship is not just about singing songs of worship to God. It is about lives surrendered to the will of God in obedience to His commands in holy living.

What kinds of vows and offerings does the Lord require now of those who are of faith in Jesus Christ? Jesus said that if anyone would come after Him, He must deny self, take up His cross daily (die daily to sin and to self) and follow the Lord in obedience to His commands. For, by biblical faith, which comes from God, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in Him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but now as servants of righteousness in obedience to our Lord’s commands.

We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls Jesus “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING the will of God. For God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives until HE comes.

Psalm 66:16-20 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

16Come and listen, all you who fear God,
and I will declare what He has done for me.
17I cried out to Him with my mouth
and praised Him with my tongue.
18If I had cherished iniquity in my heart,
the Lord would not have listened.
19But God has surely heard;
He has attended to the sound of my prayer.
20Blessed be God, who has not rejected my prayer
or withheld from me His loving devotion!

What does it mean to “fear God”? It means that we believe what He says, that we believe both His promises and His warnings. We take them to heart to do what they say to do, and to not do what they say not to do. But it also means to honor, respect, value, worship, reverence, and obey Him. And this involves living the lives He has for us to live, in doing what He has called us to do, no matter how difficult, and no matter how we might get treated by others. For our lives are now to be given over to the Lord for His service.

And what does it look like if you “cherish iniquity” in your heart? Well, to cherish is to treasure, to value, to esteem, and to take pleasure in. And iniquity is sin, immorality, evil, and wickedness. If sin is what we practice, by habit, repeating the same sins over and over again, in addiction to sin, without genuine biblical remorse and repentance sustained, and if obedience to our Lord and to His commands are not what we put into practice in our lives, then we don’t know God, and God will not listen to our prayers.

But God hears the prayers of the righteous. And this does not mean that He is going to do everything we ask of Him, or that He will do it immediately or while we still live. I am most certain that there have been followers of Christ who have died not knowing whether or not their prayers were answered, but who remained faithful to the Lord in trusting the Lord that He will do what is best. Some people pray for many years for the salvation of their loved ones only to die before any of them turn their hearts to the Lord. So wait on God!

And then there are times that we pray and we get an immediate response from the Lord, and we know that He heard us and that He attended to our prayers and that He did not reject our prayers. And these can be little things like just having a clear mind, and the ability to stay awake, and for certain pains to disappear, and for understanding of the Scriptures or of our circumstances or of what is going on in the world around us, or just for the strength to make it through every day. God does hear and answer prayers.

Prayers hindered or accepted: [John 15:1-11; James 1:5-8; James 4:1-10; 1 Peter 3:7; 1 John 1:5-9; 1 John 3:22; 1 John 5:14-15]

All You Who Fear God
An Original Work / July 31, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


I speak here from personal experience when I tell you that there is no greater joy and peace in life than to walk with Jesus, to do His will, and to follow Him wherever He leads you.

In Keeping Them

Based off Psalm 111:10; Psalm 19:7-11
An Original Work / June 3, 2014
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


Stand in awe of your Lord. Harken to His teachings.
Follow where He leads you. Live for Him today.
Through Him you gain wisdom; knowledge; understanding.
To my Lord belongs all worship and my praise.

Perfect is the Word, refreshing souls in His love.
His commands are faithful, guiding us each day.
Joy comes to the heart of those who love His teachings;
Follow His instructions. He will light their way.

Abide in the Lord, and obey His commandments.
His Word is more precious than all of our gold.
By His Word He warns us, comforts, and implores us.
When we follow His Word, there is great reward.

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The Lord's Rest Is Not A Day Of The Weak, It Is A State Of Being Perpetually In Christ

Is "worship", ever work? and
define worship?
God does not define spending our time focused on Him on the Sabbath as work, again why priests (Bible version) doing His work, He deemed blameless Mat12:5

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words
,

The Sabbath according to God, is the day He said to keep holy Exo20:8 laying aside secular work and activities Exo20:10 placing aside our secular desires for the day, so we honor God placing our focus on Him spending sanctified time with our Creator Isa 58:13 why He blessed and sanctified the seventh day Sabbath to do so. Exo20:11 Gen2:2-3

Jesus defined false worship, speaking God with our lips, not with our hearts laying aside the commandment of God quoting from the Ten Commandments for what man is doing instead Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13

We see this play out in the everlasting gospel. Rev 14:11-12 Worship and who we serve is whoever we obey Rom6:16KJV, if we are replacing what God says with another voice, we are serving that voice we replaced God's with., even if we speak God with our lips. God knows the wheat from the tares, He is the one who will sort it out. Jesus said many will say Lord Lord, but He does not know. The Sabbath is a sign says that we may know that He is the LORD thy God Eze20:12 Eze20:20. Its the one commandment that deals with our time with God. Its how we know someone is through time. Its always been very important to God throughout the Bible, He asked us to Remember it for a reason. Sadly, its the one commandment that gets attacked the most.


Being in Christ is a full commitment, living by what God says, not man Mat4:4
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Multiple immigration sweeps reported across Los Angeles, with a tense standoff/protest downtown; SEIU union leader arrested

Videos showed federal agents running after people in the parking lot of the Home Depot in Westlake, not far from downtown Los Angeles

Another raid occurred at a business in the Garment District near 9th and Towne streets, with agents in riot gear detaining workers at a clothing store as dozens of people began to gather outside. As workers were hauled off in cuffs, throngs of people yelled at the agents and held up cellphones to record them, according to videos of the showdown. One person threw eggs at one of the vehicles as agents pushed members of the public back, the videos showed.

In the street, immigrant-rights advocates stood on a bed of a truck, using megaphones to speak to the workers inside the store, reminding them of their constitutional rights and instructing them not to sign anything or say anything to federal agents. They also told the agents that lawyers wanted access to the workers, and sometimes called out specific names.

“I want to talk to my clients Luis Lopez and Michel Garcia. We are here," one person could be heard saying. "The community is here with you. Your family is here with you."

Yasmeen Pitts O'Keefe, a spokesperson for Homeland Security Investigations, a branch of ICE, said federal agents in downtown Los Angeles were executing search warrants related to the harboring of people illegally in the country. At least 44 people were arrested and one for obstructing No other details were provided.

The crowd remained mostly peaceful, but photos and videos of the scene showed some unmarked vehicles used by ICE had been vandalized with graffiti. As agents whisked away workers in white SUVs, members of the crowd walked and ran alongside the vehicles, videos from the scene showed. At one point, a man backpedaling in front of a departing SUV was nearly run over when he tripped and fell in front of the vehicle.

Officials from the Service Employees International Union said in a statement that its California president, David Huerta, was detained and injured during a downtown raid "while exercising his First Amendment right to observe and document law enforcement activity."

An SEIU spokesperson said Huerta was taken to LA County General Hospital for his injuries and later released into federal custody.

Ilse Escobar, a United Teachers Los Angeles political organizer, told The Times she saw a scuffle take place before seeing Huerta being thrown to the ground by a federal agent.

"I told him, you just arrested a labor union president," Escobar said.

[Having watched some of the protest live on local TV, it looked like many union organizers were there and kept their protest disciplined and legal.]

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The World in Ten Years

I want to hear what major world events people think will happen over the next ten years. Or a bit longer than ten years if it's major enough.

Will the Iran War spiral into a world war? Or will nothing come of it?

Will China finally have a duel with the US? Or will they trade places peacefully?

Will the US face civil war? Or will the next elections pass by peacefully?

Is the increase in natural disasters and man-made political disasters we're facing actually God's warning? That soon enough all of these world leaders, who have corrupted the land with their crimes and their lies, as well as their loyal followers, will clash and kill each other in a world war? And that this is God's wrath? Then those who survive are will be the decent people, and they will build a clean world order, and that this is God's mercy?

Or do you think everything I just suggested is wrong? Nothing will happen and life will go on as normal? Or will something I didn't mention happen?
When I read the Bible considering the prophecies for the last days we are seeing them now more intensely, the closer we get to the END OF DAYS the more intense they become.

All one can do is hope that the next election passes without chaos, I believe Trump knows now his intentions of remaining in office will not work. Probably one of the reasons he's trying to put his name on everything.

I don't think anything will rise to cause China and US conflict to a great magnitude.

No I don't think the Iran war will spiral into a world war - most countries don't like Iran, then many countries don't like the US but they like Iran less.

If anything happens it would probably be another plague killing millions and more intense natural disasters.
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Iran Negotiations

The terrorists have attacked numerous countries in the region, blatantly violating the cease fires.
Which
1) has nothing to do with your previous lie that Iran was violating the JCPOA agreement and building a nuclear weapon. You're moving the goal posts.
2) a situation created by the idiotic war of Trump.
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Doctrine of Unconditional Election

"Your argument completely confuses the root of salvation with its fruit. Scripture never teaches that human obedience causes salvation; it teaches that obedience is the inevitable result of God's sovereign grace. ......The good ground in Matthew 13 bears fruit because God prepared the soil. The other soils never had true, rooted spiritual life. We do not work to be saved; we work because we are saved by unmerited, unshakeable grace."


A person gains eternal salvation by cooperating with God's grace—his Holy Spirit—until his death. He who endures faithfully to the end of his life in his obedience to God's commandments with the help of God's grace will spend eternity with God.

Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.


The Christian who becomes disobedient and dies unrepentant will receive God's wrath for eternity. Titus 1:16, Ephesians 5:6, Hebrews 4:11

2 Thessalonians 1:8
in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:4
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


All unrepentant Christian liars are thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
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Another No-Bid Contract to Gild Horses on DC Bridge

The work has been completed and unveiled.


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Have you got personal opinions and private interpretations of the holy scriptures for which you feel pride?

Paul is obviously taking about what he teaches, the tradition he teaches, not what others in the centuries ahead come up with.
What "tradition" was Paul talking about when he wrote:

1 Corinthians 11:2 Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.

What "tradition" was Paul talking about? Was it "the Church has the authority to interpret Scripture" as was suggested by The Liturgist?? Let's take a look.

The verse before, 1 Corinthians 11:1 reads: Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
And the verse after 1 Corinthians 11:3 reads: 3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

So, the tradition Paul is setting up is that the Christ (Jesus) is the head of men NOT THE CHURCH!!!!!
If indeed we listen to Him, like He listens to His Father (and that is exactly what Jesus the Christ did and still does to this very day, and why He is The Word of God, not your Bible) then we have a tradition of listening to the Lord our God everyday called TODAY, just like Paul!! In that case we are THE CHURCH, the Lord's people who listen to Him, do what He asks, and come into a personal relationship with Jesus Christ vis His Holy Spirit communicating back and forth with our spirit.

So how do men, and women, get this wrong? Well, it was just like Saul/Paul got it wrong and had to be correct by the Lord!! Men, start following other men, (great religious leaders) instead of the Lord!! Saul was a Pharisee of Pharisees, until he heard the Lord speaking to him on the road!! So the tradition Paul is talking about is absolutely not the tradition of religious leaders, who glorify themselves and their supposed great thinking about God, but rather the tradition of real believers in Christ is a tradition of listening to Him every day!!

Therefore the premise in the OP is correct!! We are not getting our interpretation from The Church, but from the Lord. And anyone that is in the true church, (which is all people, His sheep, who listen to Him) so should be found at any Christian church regardless of denomination) know the Lord our God Jesus Christ personally! Thus, they get private interpretations!! They have to, because we are not all called to do the same thing, unless we are talking about how we are all called to listen to Him for instructions. So that is the message the church has for this world! The good news is that He, Jesus Christ, wants to and will talk to us if we seek Him, which is not exactly the same thing as seeking The Church!! It is nice to be around other people who also know Him and talk to Him, and they should be found at any and all Christian churches, regardless of that churches little man-made traditions, but doing the little individual traditions of a particular church is not necessarily the tradition of actually seeking the voice of our Lord. Maybe those little traditions help us remember to seek our Lord, but if you think the little traditions are the way instead of Jesus Christ, you have it all wrong!! You are making the same mistake Saul, the Pharisee of Pharisee was making, and thus need a word from the Lord, like Acts 9:4 "and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”

That is what we remember about Paul, right??? That at one point he didn't know Jesus Christ and His voice, but was living off traditions of men, and then he finally realized the Jesus spoke to him from heaven and then listening to Jesus Christ became the tradition of Paul!!!
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Portugal just ran on 100% renewables for six days in a row

California produced over half its May electricity from solar, a world* record**​

It’s the first time *a large-scale power system is known to have surpassed 50% solar for an entire month and the second significant power record set by the state recently. For the first five months of 2026, California made more electricity from solar than from natural gas, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Burning natural gas has long been the dominant source of electricity in the state. This could be the first year that solar beats gas in California’s power mix.

A big part of the story is the boom in new battery storage around the state, which allows it to save solar power when it’s overabundant and use it when the sun goes down.

Ember, which promotes renewable energy, takes its data from the EIA’s monthly power reports. **Its electricity tracker includes only the energy that is produced in state, not imports from Arizona, for example. Solar generation includes both utility-scale solar and rooftop.

California is making more clean electricity, and the amount made from natural gas, which generates air pollution and heats up the climate, has been declining over the last few years. Under legislation signed in 2018, all of California’s electricity is to come from clean sources by 2045.
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Christians Who Inspire Thanksgiving

2 Corinthians 1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed
upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.

Finding inspiration in this meditation this morning.

May Thanksgiving be offered on behalf of the CF community in the face of worldly consternation.

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