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Chesterton · Oct 25, 2025

They usually sue unethical accountants.

NTANT

Chesterton · Oct 25, 2025

Don't imbibe wine now.

WINE

Daniel Martinovich · Oct 25, 2025

Carl Emerson said:
Wearing a cross tends to make the air turn blue - there is a definite anti-Christ attitude among average Jews.

There are also secret believers and many genuinely open to the Gospel.

I was supporting new believers who lost their jobs and families when they committed to Jesus.

Well, I have certainly seen that. But if it were my business witnessing to Jews or Muslims. I would not lead off wearing a cross.

Robban · Oct 25, 2025

Fourleafl leaf klover.

Catherine Connolly from Galway elected as new president of Ireland,

There you go mother dear,

a breath of fresh air.

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Daniel Martinovich · Oct 25, 2025

Carl Emerson said:
Me...

I was aware of Him by the age of 3 and somehow knew I belonged.

Well that is good. But being a horrible sinner before I came to Christ and being familiar with lots of others like myself. That is usually what we have to deal with

Chesterton · Oct 25, 2025

Anyone here aware of the big TikTok trend where people on EBT are threatening mass thievery of food from stores come November 1st? They're saying that if they don't get their free food, it's still going to be free because their just going to walk into the stores and steal it. I mean, many people do that already but they're talking about doing it en masse. And they say if it takes violence, that's what it takes. Through compilations I've come across hundreds of these videos. And of course these aren't the elderly, the sick, the disabled. These people look (and talk) as if they're quite capable of doing a days work, but just refuse to. You think this is all just them venting their entitlement or do you think there's trouble ahead?

Unfortunately I can't post any of the videos because I can't recall a single one which wasn't laced with profanity from start to finish.

sjastro · Oct 25, 2025

David Hine7 said:
Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!!

This short work supports the universe was Created by God. The Hubble Constant, Ho, (universe expansion) is central to Creation.
The equations here are HATED by secular science, BECAUSE they support that God Created the universe and the maths framework that controls it:-

My name is David Hine, and here is an interesting Hubble Constant equation that "fixes" Ho to local light speed, C.

Ho is now "fixed" to local light speed, C by this simple Ho equation worked in the old algebra style of Maxwell:-

2 x oneMpc x C, divided by Pi to the power of 21 = 70.9449 k/s/Mpc

In this equation, directly input the values below:-

oneMPC is 3260000 light years

C (local) is 299792.458 k/s

Pi is 3.142..........

Astronomers measuring Ho give the "ballpark" values of Ho, and now we have an Ho equation that "fixes" Ho to
local light speed, C, which has to be much more precise.

Note:- In the numerator, distance (Mpc) is multiplied by speed (k/s), and that is NOT an error in this situation, as the "distance squared" does not affect the numerical value of the Ho redshift by
"spreading out" (as any light source does) when viewing that redshift for Ho along just
one dimension only.

The dimensionless denominator Pi^21 sets the scales of this Ho equation correctly into the Dynamic Aether framework.
The Dynamic Aether Framework is not the static aether that the Michleson-Morley experiment could not detect, but
the Dynamic Aether that Faraday knew caused electrical "reluctance", and that Maxwell used as the basis for his
electric and magnetic "inertia" constants, and used in his Aether equations to calculate light speed. C..

With very kind regards, David Hine.

Email:- dhine2999@yahoo.com

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Hubble Constant (Ho) Hubble Horizon Distance light years calculated from Ho of 70.9449 k/s/Mpc.

oneMpc X C, divided by Ho, and then divided by one billion = 13.7758 billion light Years

In this equation, directly input the values below:-

oneMpc is 3260000 light years

C (local) is 299792.458 k/s

Ho is 70.9449 k/s/Mpc

one billion is 1,000,000,000 used to give the answer in convenient units of
billions of light years.

Note:- This Hubble Horizon Distance equation prevents falsifying the terminology of
declaring light years as years only.

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The "Hubble Tension Issue"

Note:- In the "Dynamic Aether Framework" of the Ho calculating equation in which Ho is "fixed" numerically to C,
the "Hubble Tension issue" is caused by the "DISTANT LOCAL VALUE" of C in the observed space regions being
directly affected by the presence of huge galaxies, black holes. or void areas, RELATIVE to the observer.

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If you didn't mess around with the units of Hₒ we would have a pretty good idea of the age of the universe.

Hₒ is a misnomer it is a constant as measured today, H(a) as a function of the scale factor 'a' deceases with time as the universe is metrically expanding.
1/Hₒ ≈ (3.086 x 10¹⁹)/70 = 4.4 x 10¹⁷s ≈ 14 billion years.

This is an approximate value as it assumes the universe is expanding uniformly.

To get a more accurate value we need to start off with Einstein's field equations.

A cosmological solution to the field equations is the FLRW metric.

When the metric is plugged into the field equations the Friedmann equations are obtained.

From these equations we find:

This explains why the Hubble value decreases with time as the scale factor 'a' increases with time, hence:

The equation for t(a) allows the age of the universe to be calculated by summing piecewise the various stages when the universe underwent different expansion rates.

From this the age of the universe is around 13.8 billion years.

Daniel Martinovich · Oct 25, 2025

Ed Parenteau said:
You're not harmonizing those verses with the whole of scripture. The new testament gives light to the old testament.
It seem that you're trying to fit an infinite God into a physical shape when He says of Himself that the "heavens are His throne and the earth His footstool, who can build me a house"? He's not created and not confined by time and space, otherwise there would be laws above Him.

John 1:18
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side, has made Him known.

1 Timothy 6:16
14Keep this commandment without stain or reproach until the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15which the blessed and only Sovereign One—the King of kings and Lord of lords—will bring about in His own time. 16He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God remains in us, and His love is perfected in us.

John 6:46
not that anyone has seen the Father except the One who is from God; only He has seen the Father.

Colossians 1:15
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

And your not honoring the scriptures where he has shown himself to the prophets in a physical form,

Now if you were to say that physical form the prophets saw does nor come within a million miles of revealing all that God is. I’d agree completely. The mind of man is no more capable of comprehending God than they are comprehending eternity and have no beginning,

I mean for crying out loud. Look at the universe. We are supposed to comprehend a being that spoke that into existence? We can’t. But that does not mean the father has not appeared in physical form to men. Even if that physical form is nothing compared to what he teallly is.

AvilaSurfer · Oct 25, 2025

I am 99% anti death penalty. I know some death row inmates still issue orders to the outside. Some are hits on enemies. Those criminals should die.
On another note, I don’t get all the mistakes that happen. Why can’t they just shoot them up with enough morphine to get the job done? It happens all the time in hospitals.

Chesterton · Oct 25, 2025

Larniavc said:
If someone said “I put a brick through my (slur) neighbour’s window” or “I hired someone to kill my brother” or “I diddle kids” what do YOU think I should do?

Keep quiet?

Well you said this within the context of your post #154. I assumed you were talking about much milder things, since you mentioned things you yourself would only say around friends. I assume you don't admit to serious felonies you've committed even to friends. What are you, a psychiatrist for the violently deranged? lol

Dan Perez · Oct 25, 2025

# 1 FOR // GAR , is a CONJUNCATION

# 2 SIN // HAMARTIA. , in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

# 3 SHALL // KYRIOUO. , in. the FUTURE TENSE , in. the ACTIVE VOICE. , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , in. the SINGULAR

# 4. NOT //. OU. is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and NOT means NEVER

# 5. HAVE DOMINION. OVER // KYRIEUOV , in c the FUTURE TENSE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , means it can not , in the SINGULAR

# 6 YOU. // HYMON , is a POERSONAL POSSESSEITIVE PRONOUN. in the GENITIVE CASE , in the PLURAL

# 7. FOR // GAR , is a CONJUNCATION

# 8 YE ARE // ESTE. , is in. the PRESENT TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD . in. the PLURAL

# 9 NOT // OU . is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , meaning Never ever

# 10 UNDER. // HYPO , is a PREPOSITION

# 11 THE LAW // NOMOS. , means the LAW of Moses. , in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR.

# 12 BUT. // ALLA is a CONJUNCATION

# 13 UNDER // HYPO. is a PREPOSTION

# 14 GRACE. // CHARIS is in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in. the SINGULAR

# A. And since we are NOT. under the Law of Moses.

# B WE do not NEED a Priest

# C. We do not NEED an ALTER

# D WE do not NEED. and LAMB. for a Sacrifice

# E. WE do Not NEED to CONFESS SINS , do it. ONLY to GOD

# F No need to. to make the SIGN. of a CROSS

# G. And you can eat MEAT on. any DAY you want

# H. No worrys about the KEEPING the Sabbath

# I And for all other questions BELIEVE the KJV. BIBLE

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Larniavc · Oct 25, 2025

Chesterton said:
What are your feelings on hot dogs?

Is that something you're forced by law to do, or are you just being a faithful comrade?

If someone said “I put a brick through my (slur) neighbour’s window” or “I hired someone to kill my brother” or “I diddle kids” what do YOU think I should do?

Keep quiet?

Amo2 · Oct 25, 2025

Job 33:6 said:
Lets review by going back over my prior post.

"This is simply misinformation (your source). For example, your first article states:

“Dinosaurs are supposed to have evolved into birds. But Confuciusornis was a true beaked bird that pre-dates the ‘feathered’ dinosaurs that it allegedly came from. It also has been found in the stomach of a dinosaur.”

Lots of feathered dinosaurs predate confuciosornis.

Examples:

Anchiornis | Natural History Museum

Explore Anchiornis, a meat-eating theropod dinosaur in the Dino Directory.

www.nhm.ac.uk

New Candidate for World's First Bird

The discovery of the feathered Aurornis stokes the debate over the first avian.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Epidexipteryx - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tiny Feathered Dinosaur Discovered

Researchers have discovered a new feathered but flightless dinosaur from the Jurassic period.

www.livescience.com

Pedopenna - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"

I could probably list a couple dozen. Hence why it's obvious that you're simply peddling misinformation.

And even if we move the goalpost and discuss different birds dated to 150mya as your more recent article suggests, plenty of feathered dinosaurs predate that still.

I am not aware of any birds dated to 170mya. The article you referenced in your last post noted Baminornis - Wikipedia at 150mya.

If you had a bird dated at 170 mya, I would be surprised.

Yet your sources are way off base, acting like the fossil record is out of order due to birds found much later at 120-130mya. But that obviously doesn't make any sense. Anyone with a basic understanding of the fossil record would identify that falsehood a mile away.

Notice the following quote from the link provided before it -

The discovery of the Baminornis zhenghensis reveals for the first time that the body structure of modern birds appeared in the Jurassic, pushing the origin of birds back to around 172 to 164 million years ago. It is currently the most definitive and only known Jurassic bird, reshaping people's understanding of avian evolution.

Global Times

Chinese scientists discover oldest bird fossils, rewrite history of avian evolution - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Please do supply the information about feathered dinosaurs earlier than the origin of birds suggested in the above quote. Not that I would believe either, but would like to examine the issues regarding them for myself. As I often find that what one evolutionist declares as scientifically proved ages regarding birds and other supposedly evolved creatures, is not agreed upon by others. It is not an issue of course, that I do not believe any of this imagined testimony.

Maria Billingsley · Oct 25, 2025

Lets talk insurance coverage. Maybe this will help.

The core, non-negotiable principle of the ACA is that insurance companies can no longer deny coverage or charge more money to anyone because of a pre-existing condition. This was the fundamental promise to end medical discrimination. However, this protection only works because the ACA also provides subsidies (financial help) to keep premiums affordable and implements market rules to get enough healthy people into the system. If you try to strip away the subsidies or other conditions, the cost of insuring the sick would skyrocket, effectively canceling out the pre-existing condition guarantee by making the insurance utterly unaffordable. For true security, the whole structure must remain intact.

Fervent · Oct 25, 2025

concretecamper said:
Exactly. But there is always a but.

Yeah, though what the "but" is often differs.

concretecamper said:
However, defining the 2 Nature's of Christ and the incarnation (something most everyone who calls themselves Christian believe) is certainly extra-biblical. The Church Fathers are critical for this.

We have the same Scripture they used, and can read their writings to see when and where they used specific Scripture to arrive at the same conclusion. We need not take them as more than Scriptural interpreters as we are today, privileged as their opinions may be. The councils all can be lined up with Scripture, so their usefulness is more in the brevity they allow rather than some kind of argument from authority.

concretecamper said:
Also, the Church Fathers can be used as proofs that the Immaculate Conception or the Perpetual Virginity of Mary are not some recent innovations (as some claim) and were beliefs held since the beginning of His Church.

They certainly can show that the beliefs arose in antiquity, but they weren't exactly ubiquitous.

Amo2 · Oct 25, 2025

Till the thirtieth year of his age, Clovis continued to worship the gods of his ancestors. His disbelief, or rather disregard, of Christianity, might encourage him to pillage with less remorse the churches of a hostile territory: but his subjects of Gaul enjoyed the free exercise of religious worship; and the bishops entertained a more favorable hope of the idolater, than of the heretics. The Merovingian prince had contracted a fortunate alliance with the fair Clotilda, the niece of the king of Burgundy, who, in the midst of an Arian court, was educated in the profession of the Catholic faith. It was her interest, as well as her duty, to achieve the conversion of a Pagan husband; and Clovis insensibly listened to the voice of love and religion. He conesnted (perhaps such terms had been previously stipulated) to the baptism of his eldest son; and though the sudden death of the infant excited some superstitious fears, he was persuaded, a second time, to repeat the dangerous experiment. In the distress of the battle of Tolbiac, Clovis loudly invoked the God of Clotilda and the Christians; and victory disposed him to hear, with respectful gratitude, the eloquent Remigius, bishop of Rheims, who forcibly displayed the temporal and spiritual advantages of his conversion. The king declared himself satisfied of the truth of the Catholic faith; and the political reasons which might have suspended his public profession, were removed by the devout or loyal acclamations of the Franks, who showed themselves alike prepared to follow their heroic leader to the field of battle, or to the baptismal font. The important ceremony was performed in the cathedral of Rheims, with every circumstance of magnificence and solemnity that could impress an awful sense of religion on the minds of its rude proselytes. The new Constantine was immediately baptized, with three thousand of his warlike subjects; and their example was imitated by the remainder of the gentle Barbarians, who, in obedience to the victorious prelate, adored the cross which they had burnt, and burnt the idols which they had formerly adored. The mind of Clovis was susceptible of transient fervor: he was exasperated by the pathetic tale of the passion and death of Christ; and, instead of weighing the salutary consequences of that mysterious sacrifice, he exclaimed, with indiscreet fury, “Had I been present at the head of my valiant Franks, I would have revenged his injuries.”But the savage conqueror of Gaul was incapable of examining the proofs of a religion, which depends on the laborious investigation of historic evidence and speculative theology. He was still more incapable of feeling the mild influence of the gospel, which persuades and purifies the heart of a genuine convert. His ambitious reign was a perpetual violation of moral and Christian duties: his hands were stained with blood in peace as well as in war; and, as soon as Clovis had dismissed a synod of the Gallican church, he calmly assassinated all the princes of the Merovingian race. Yet the king of the Franks might sincerely worship the Christian God, as a Being more excellent and powerful than his national deities; and the signal deliverance and victory of Tolbiac encouraged Clovis to confide in the future protection of the Lord of Hosts. Martin, the most popular of the saints, had filled the Western world with the fame of those miracles which were incessantly performed at his holy sepulchre of Tours. His visible or invisible aid promoted the cause of a liberal and orthodox prince; and the profane remark of Clovis himself, that St.Martin was an expensive friend, need not be interpreted as the symptom of any permanent or rational scepticism. But earth, as well as heaven, rejoiced in the conversion of the Franks. On the memorable day when Clovis ascended from the baptismal font, he alone, in the Christian world, deserved the name and prerogatives of a Catholic king. The emperor Anastasius entertained some dangerous errors concerning the nature of the divine incarnation; and the Barbarians of Italy, Africa, Spain, and Gaul, were involved in the Arian heresy. The eldest, or rather the only, son of the church, was acknowledged by the clergy as their lawful sovereign, or glorious deliverer; and the armies of Clovis were strenuously supported by the zeal and fervor of the Catholic faction. (The History of the decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Vol. 4, Chap. 38, pgs. 57-60 of the Everyman's Library edition)

Another unconverted king and many thousands of his subjects, received into the supposed “Christianity” of Catholicism, with political gains in view. The carrying out of in the name of “Christianity” which, included mass assassinations, bloodshed, war, and perpetual violations of moral and “Christian” duties.

eclipsenow · Oct 25, 2025

Servus said:
Climate scientist peer review is kinda like parapsychologist peer review.

My prescription for you living with "your truth" as you see the world start to change is to say this phrase above three times before bed. Have a chocolate cookie and a nice mug of warm milk.

As the Oracle in the Matrix said, "...eat the cookie - and pretty soon you'll feel right as rain."

FreeinChrist · Oct 25, 2025

Saw this on Politifact:

PolitiFact | Federal Budget

PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.

www.politifact.com

fhansen · Oct 25, 2025

Neogaia777 said:
Judgement

Salvation might be assured for those put their faith/hope/trust/love in Jesus Christ, but a gain or loss of rewards isn't though, etc, and it's regretable to suffer loss, etc.

I'm aware of that, but I do thank you though.

Yes, thank you.

Judgemental and hypocritical people who don't think, etc.

But, I probably shouldn't have taken it out on @fhansen though, because he might not be one of those maybe, etc.

So, I apologize to you @fhansen, ok.

God Bless.

No worries, you were just being judgemental, LOL . JK. But my main point was that the gospel isn't only about forgiveness of sin but also about the grace to begin to align ourselves with God's will, to His determination for each of us even if still imperfectly in this life.

childeye 2 · Oct 25, 2025

CoreyD said:
I appreciate your taking the time to look up the definition, and share it.
Would you mind putting the definition in your own words. Thanks.

Free will
2 of 2

1
: voluntary choice or decision
I do this of my own free will

2
: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention

Number 1 represents a certain type of choice/decision and that is a voluntary choice/decision. An involuntary choice/decision is one that is dictated out of necessity, obligation, coercion, external events outside of one's control --> see determinism.

Number 2 is the philosophical meaning which ponders to what degree human choices are determined by antecedent events including God's role.

CoreyD said:
Would you agree that atheists display these qualities in some measure - love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance:?

Yes, because God's Word is the Light and life of all people.

CoreyD said:
Do, we understand then that these qualities are of true value... that is, they refer to qualities of a godly nature, that are demonstrated to God's honor?

I think that's what we're experiencing in the knowledge of good and evil.

CoreyD said:
They are what God looks for in those who learn the Christ.

If you mean God seeks those who worship Him in truth and spirit, I agree. The Christ is a revelation through the Holy Spirit and He is the one who renews the mind..

CoreyD said:
So, love shown by those in the world, is surpassed by love which is a quality of the spirit.

I would say it's the same love. The quality or purity is what the world tends to diminish.

Amo2 · Oct 25, 2025

CHAP. II.—CONGRATULATIONS AND ENTREATIES.

As to our fellow-servant Burrhus, your deacon in regard to God and blessed in all things, I pray that he may continue blameless for the honour of the Church, and of your most blessed bishop. Crocus also, worthy both of God and you, whom we have received as the manifestation of your love to us, hath in all things refreshed7 me, and “hath not been ashamed of my chain,” as the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ will also refresh9 him; together with Onesimus, and Burrhus, and Euplus, and Fronto, by means of whom I have, as to love, beheld all of you. May I always have joy of you, if indeed I be worthy of it. It is therefore befitting that you should in every way glorify Jesus Christ, who hath glorified you, that by a unanimous obedience “ye may be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment, and may all speak the same thing concerning the same thing,” and that, being subject to the bishop and the presbytery, ye may in all respects be sanctified.

Ignatius of Antioch, “The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians,” in The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, vol. 1, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 50.

Do the scriptures really teach us to be unanimously obedient to the bishop and presbytery? To all say the same thing concerning the same thing? As though what, Bishops have all knowledge and alone express the teachings and will of God by way of proper witnessing? So that we should imitate and subject ourselves to their examples and manner of teaching in the place of who, Jesus and His apostles?

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

Mat 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. 26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; 27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: 28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Our Lord and the Apostle Paul did not point to Bishops or a presbytery or clergy to whom a supposed laity were to be subordinated. To the contrary, they warned against those who desired after and sought such titles or exalted positions. Nor were those of the church with varying gifts instructed to seek out the approval of other mere men to learn what to say or how to present the truths of the gospel. To the contrary, they were pointed to the study of the scriptures themsleves for knowledge of such, and the power of the Holy Spirit of God unto the recollection of truth and power of presentation unto conversions. It was only in the apostasy that the Christian religion became Imperially mandated, and a laity was subjected to a clergy that were supported and backed up by Imperial command. Though some such as Ignatius planted the seeds for such illicit authority and exaltation of one man over another within professed Christianity. Once the church and the empire were united, then such illicit union brought about the enforcement these sentiments previously sought out only by way of persuasion by such as Ignatius. Bringing persecution upon those who would not conform to such wishes by mere men, with no scriptural command concerning it.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Nevertheless -

2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The knowledge of truth was to be obtained by careful and prayerful study of the holy scriptures. Not the boasted positions of mere men who sought and seek to lord themselves over us. As to the type and power of the presentation of scriptural truths -

Jhn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. 29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

Mrk 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

Luk 12:11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: 12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

rjs330 · Oct 25, 2025

Yarddog said:
Nobody has done what Trump has done. He has pardoned his friends and tried to jail his enemies. No President has ignored the law in ways Trump has.

Exercising constitutional authority is not facist no matter how you wish to spin it.

What laws has he ignored?

His enemies have tried to jail him. Yet you didnt call them facists. Hypocritical arguments won't be accepted as evidence of facism.

Fervent · Oct 25, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
Can you provide me an example of some Skeptic who presses their form of skepticism in the way that you're citing. There are different degrees of Skepticism and even Hume recognized this. Citing an example of the challenge you're wanting to put a crack into may help me identify some Christian philosopher or other who has said something substantive in regard to this issue.

Russell's teapot-like arguments, the common canard of "you can't prove a negative", and arguments along those lines. Basically the assertion that the one making the "positive" claim bears the burden. My main point of contention is that in ordinary discourse we don't routinely accept skepticism as the appropriate response to every claim, we require some kind of reason for skepticism. If my neighbor tells me about their friend from work Mark, whom I have never met, my first response is not to demand that my neighbor prove to me Mark exists because I have never met him. I have to have a reason to not believe Mark exists.

2PhiloVoid said:
Personally, while I identify myself as skeptic from time to time, mine is only a mild form, a nuance of my appropriating a Critical line of inquiry. I have a difficult time thinking anyone can be a Global skeptic or even a Pyrronnian skeptic.

My skepticism is more a rhetorical matter, because I am more of a pragmatist in that I see "knowledge" as an unattainable goal and instead rely on a tentative model-based epistemology. I don't think skepticism is tenable to live by, but I do think that the skeptical position isn't given enough weight in most discussions of "truth"...we are far too quick to accept that because it is necessary to adopt either a circular justification or a dogmatic one in order to escape infinite regress that we let whatever it is that we think is the right fit for an axiom off and accept assertion as a valid grounds for acceptance. So I maintain that I am a skeptic, but recognize that skepticism is fundmentally untenable. My point is simply to reverse the question from "why should I believe?" to "why shouldn't I believe?"

2PhiloVoid said:
Oh, I never pretend to do so. I just hold folks accountable for their negligences all the way around.

Fair enough

2PhiloVoid said:
Let me rummage through my library and see what I can come up with.

Much appreciated

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