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John MacArthur admitted to hospital with pneumonia, ‘may be in the presence of the Lord soon’

For what it is worth this was my experience earlier today. It's personal revelation if that.

My wife got home from her Baptist Bible study about 11.30am this morning. I then borrowed the car and went to the library to exchange a couple of books. On the way home I got a couple of bottles of wine as I usually have a glass after the evening meal. I'm having a glass now as I type the post.

But as I was driving home I had this brief sense of something. I said to myself "I wonder if John Macarthur has died?" I also had a sense of somebody being acutely embarrassed. I thought to myself "If he has, maybe he's been shown just how wrong he was about the Catholic Church?". I suppose this was about midday.

Out of curiosity I searched the net tonight (it's now 7.54pm local time) to see if he had died.

I found out he'd died 6.17pm today in Santa Clarita, California.

6.17pm in California is 11.17am Brisbane time, which is not that long before I had the sense while driving the car.

For what it's worth.
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Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Most of my evidence comes from the Bible, as I've said before most of the verses in Scripture contradict a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
The problem is that you keep posting the same thing - a link to 200 bible verses which are supposed to teach a flat earth. But as I have mentioned, most of the headings under which the verses are grouped are nothing to do with the earth's shape. "Earth created before the sun" for example, and "Universe complete." You haven't so far posted a single verse that clearly tells us what shape the earth is.
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Do you agree with the President on border enforcement and illegal aliens?

You seem to have missed the stuff about caring for the foreigner in your midst and remembering that you were once foreigners and slaves. Putting laws above the humanitarian issues smacks of pharisaical obstinance, especially when those laws involve human designated borders. Rule of law and order are important, but not more important than human dignity and an obligation to care for the needy.
I am the son of a legal immigrant. Break the law coat the price.
Yet you are in favor of deporting people who did come into the country legally and have committed no other crime while here.
Nope. Never said such a thing. I have only addressed. Illegal aliens.
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Do you agree with the President on border enforcement and illegal aliens?

The left hasn't tried to purge the ranks of civil service of Republicans. Obama even appointed Republicans to his administration.
Yeah I remember Obama

Quote: We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

Btw Trump has Democrats in his administration
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The BRICS Conference fights back...

Bwahahahahaha! Nobody ‘likes’ Trump. It’s about ‘giving the baby its bottle (to coin a phrase) until the America has another go at choosing leader.

Three years and back to normal (hopefully).
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! I believe you believe that. Even though the leaders say different.

If Trump passed away, the headlines would read. Trumps Quits
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King Solomon's 1000+ wives and concubines, etc

What the Christian Church used as moral norms throughout history may not necessarily be the same as what God has declared sin or not. Adam was given one Eve, so that's the golden standard it seems. But God didn't declare a man being married more than once to be a sin. No such rule can be found in either TNK/OT or NT. Even more so, four of the Heroes of the Faith in Hebrews (NT) engaged in polygyny and were never condemned for that - so even the author of Hebrews in the 1st century AD didn't consider those men to be adulterous.

A situation differing from the ideal is not necessarily a sin - otherwise choosing to remain single would be sinful as well. We have to be very, very careful adding man-made prohibitions to God's Law.

Yet it's obvious that the relationship between husband/wife mentally/socially would have very different dynamics when more than one wife is present. I am not recommending that, yet there may be circumstances in life or society where one man having two wives may represent less evil/suffering than one woman remaining unmarried.
the church have the power to declare something forbidden or permitted.

Matthew 18:18
Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
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What's the use of faith alone?

Such heresies do not exist - what you don’t seem to understand is the moment someone starts a heresy (which literally means sect or cult), they have founded a different religion, an alien religion, and have ceased to be Church Fathers, for they have anathematized themselves by preaching another Gospel according to Galatians 1:8-9.

Thus, the moment Arius denied that Christ was God incarnate, the uncreated and only begotten Son of God, of one essence with the Father, begotten of the Father in eternity before all ages, Arius cut himself off from the church and became the heresiarch of a new counterfeit religion, like Mormonism and J/Ws of today.
And here you have the rift between Protestant and Catholic.. which makes it quite difficult for either "side" to be charitable. A tragedy indeed.
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California professor arrested for allegedly tossing tear gas canister at ICE agents during raid on cannabis farm

Such an act can result in assault charges. Everyone should have respect for those who uphold the law. Delaying officers can stop someone who needs help from getting the assistance they need.
We agree that what the professor did was probably a(n) (alleged) crime…what I question was that someone instigated him to do so.
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What's the use of faith alone?

False, no heresy was started by an actual Church Father. In one isolated and lamentable case, Tertullian, a latin divine who coined the word “Trinitas”, apostatized and joined the Montanist sect, for he was seduced by their rigorism, but that sect was founded by a Montanus who claimed to be the Paraclete. There are two other cases of church fathers who are venerated by some but not by all, or who are controversial and not universally venerated, who some regard as heretics, namely Theodore of Mopsuestia and Origen.

Those three cases aside, setting aside the EO/OO schism and thus the unfortunate lack of complete mutual veneration that resulted from this (but partial mutual veneration exists; St. Romanos the Melodist being venerated in both churches, and possibly being Oriental Orthodox, St. Theodora likewise, and definitely Oriental Orthodox, and also St. John of Damascus, definitely Eastern Orthodox), no Church Father can be considered a heretic, much less an heresiarch, for the two concepts are mutually exclusive.

Ones status as a church father is contingent upon one’s dogmatic orthodoxy. Thus, the likes of Arius, Nestorius, Valentinus, Marcion, Eutyches, Tatian, Bardesanes, Mani, et cetera, are not Church Fathers, for they were either never members of the church in the case of Mani, or apostasized in the case of Arius and Tatian, embracing doctrines incompatible with Christianity.
I was using "Fathers" colloquially and being jocular.. I probably should be more careful with my language.
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What's the use of faith alone?

I'm speaking of heresies that emerged out of the rhetorical conflicts of theologians in the early Church.. NOT the Apostles.

Such heresies do not exist - what you don’t seem to understand is the moment someone starts a heresy (which literally means sect or cult), they have founded a different religion, an alien religion, and have ceased to be Church Fathers, for they have anathematized themselves by preaching another Gospel according to Galatians 1:8-9.

Thus, the moment Arius denied that Christ was God incarnate, the uncreated and only begotten Son of God, of one essence with the Father, begotten of the Father in eternity before all ages, Arius cut himself off from the church and became the heresiarch of a new counterfeit religion, like Mormonism and J/Ws of today.
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What's the use of faith alone?

Firstly, I encourage the study of Church History and the Patristic literature, you've misunderstood me on that. I don't vaunt them over scripture, I fully acknowledge their value. And second, I think you are confusing Church Fathers with Apostles. I would never in my life accuse the Apostles of heresy. I'm speaking of heresies that emerged out of the rhetorical conflicts of theologians in the early Church.. NOT the Apostles.
Is there anyone who "vaunts them over scripture"? And accusing the Patristics of being heresiarchs is still a highly inflammatory charge.
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What's the use of faith alone?

They didn't "start" the Gnostic rot that undergirds so many of them,

There is no trace of Gnosticism in any recognized Church Father venerated as a Father of the Church by the Roman Catholics, traditional Anglicans, Confessional Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox or the Assyrian Church of the East.

Some people allege that St. Augustine was influenced by the Manichaen religion he converted from under the influence of his Christian mother and St. Ambrose, but this is not true, as anyone with an intimate knowledge of the Manichaean faith will recognize the extreme difference between their doctrines and those of St. Augustine, and recognize this as an anti-monastic smear.

And of all of the Church Fathers, only St. Augustine has been, to my knowledge, accused of Gnostic ideas by any substantial number of people.

lighthearted tease

I’m sorry but its not appropriate to engage in ”lighthearted teasing“ over those who we as Orthodox Christians regard as holy men, on a par with the Prophets and Patriarchs of the Old Testament, in some cases Equal to the Apostles for their work in spreading the Gospel to new lands (for example, St. Gregory the Illuminator, St. Nino and Saints Cyril and Methodius), and who in a great many cases were martyrs and confessors, who were horribly tortured and gave their life to preserve the faith, for example, St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Polycarp, St. Irenaeus of Lyons, St. Maximus the Confessor and indeed St. John Chyrsostom (who was death marched for criticizing the Empress for wasting money on a solid gold commode while people were starving in Constantinople).

These Church Fathers (and in the case of St. Nino, a Church Mother) are holy, bearing the image of Christ, having picked up their cross to follow Him, and having made their lives an icon of his life. Glorified in death, their lives are an icon of the life of Christ and a demonstration of the power of God’s grace to transform us and sanctify us entirely( the doctrine of Theosis, which John Wesley translated as “entire sanctification”*

*Wesley had a particular gift for taking ancient Greek terminology, for instance, Presbyter and Bishop, and translating it into modern English, referring to Presbyters as Elders and to Bishops as Superintendents - both of which are correct (although in the most contemporary modern dialect, due to the bureaucratic connotations of the word “superintendent” i.e. the Superintendent of Public Works and so on, Overseer would be preferable in modern American culture). That being said, I would prefer to keep the Greek words alive where possible, because the Greek language was uniquely expressive; and it is not a coincidence that God chose that language as the language in which the New Testament would be written, for it contains words capable of encapsulating Hebrew theological concepts, such as the Memra, encoded into Greek as Logos, as well as those aspects of God clarified by our Lord, for example, the three prosopa of the Trinity.
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What's the use of faith alone?

Accusing the church fathers of starting heresies is quite an inflammatory charge, particularly coming from someone who speaks so highly of IFB. As for a rise in cults, I haven't seen an uptick but that may be a geographical thing. Patristic literature is extremely important because it gets us closer to the historical context of the NT and helps us understand what the concerns of the NT authors were. Avoiding such literature leads to anachronistic readings and the imposition of modern(well, 19th and 20th century) philosophical structures on the text.
Firstly, I encourage the study of Church History and the Patristic literature, you've misunderstood me on that. I don't vaunt them over scripture, I fully acknowledge their value. And second, I think you are confusing Church Fathers with Apostles. I would never in my life accuse the Apostles of heresy. I'm speaking of heresies that emerged out of the rhetorical conflicts of theologians in the early Church.. NOT the Apostles.
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Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Believe what you like. But if your only evidence is other people's videos from YouTube and you dismiss scientific facts without, yourself, knowing any science or offering any alternative,

Most of my evidence comes from the Bible, as I've said before most of the verses in Scripture contradict a rotating globe orbiting the sun.
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