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What video games are you currently playing?

Super Marios melee, super Mario party five...good memories! :D

Yeah. I also loved Mario Kart Double Dash and the original Animal Crossing.

Did you ever watch the television show X-Play? It was a great TV show that featured videogame reviews. TechTV (later G4) also had other videogames themed shows.

So nostalgic.
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Sad news *prayer request*

I continue to ask for your deep and fervent prayers, please.

Unfortunately, my brother got back together with his ex-"boyfriend." Even though he habitually cheated on him, among other issues.

Please pray for a final break up, and they will permanently part ways.

Please pray for my brother to return to Christ and the sacraments, lest he lose his salvation.

Thank you

God bless

Chaplet

Does yours have a metal centerpiece of a rose? And If so, what is the image on the back of the rose? Is that Jesus, Mary or St. Dymphna? It’s so small I can’t tell, but I THINK it might be Mary.
No. It has St. Dymphna, and the other side has "pray for us." All the beads are blue, and it came with a prayer card to St. Dymphna.
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what Bible (or 2 or 3 translations to read)?

yeah I'd like to know ur preferences,
If I am sharing with a group that uses a certain Bible, I might use that one so we are communicating with the same one.

But in private and for these forums I use the New King James Version. Because it seems fairly close to the King James Bible and also is more up-to-date in English, like a lot of other Bibles.

And I look up Greek and Hebrew words using the Strong's Concordance dictionaries in the back. Plus, I use interlinear work and Spanish Bibles.
i just watch a pastor who knows Hebrew n Greek that he recommends KJV, NKJV, n ESV
My opinion is that any person will choose a Bible and conclusions, based on how that person is capable of understanding. So, what I mean, then, is one genius in Hebrew and Greek can get conclusions which are the exact opposite of what another genius in Hebrew and Greek is able to get. So, knowing a Bible manuscript language does not automatically guarantee how well anyone can know which Bible is really right and what God's word means.

So-o-o-o > pray and trust God to guide you :)

Each of us has motives which can affect how well we can accept what God's word means. And our character can affect if and how we understand the LORD.

I think of this > the disciples with Jesus could fight among themselves about which one was the greatest. And, they did not understand things Jesus plainly told them. They had access to I would say the "original" language of God's word . . . talking with Jesus Himself in Person! However . . . they did not get it. Why? I note how they seem to have been in a state of pride, so ready to worry about who was the greatest, and what they could use Jesus to get for their own selves; and in that spirit they could not rightly receive and understand things which Jesus was telling them.

And they were self-righteous, I would say . . . so ready to judge and look down on somebody else who was wrong or even not wrong, instead of first evaluating themselves with God guiding the evaluation.

Do we answer to God, first, in our prayer and Bible study????

So, may be we should ask what is the best translator and interpreter of God's word? I might say, a humble heart in God's all-loving family caring and sharing love. And, by the way, in case you are already growing in this love which is how Jesus is . . . then, already, you have the living meaning of God's word, growing in you. Because Jesus is the living love meaning of God's word . . . I would say.

And Jesus in us is our Creator, able to create in us whatever understanding and explanations and beliefs He pleases to share with us. And Jesus in us is able to create with us how to love each and every person, as God rules us in His own peace with His own creativity for loving >

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

Oh yes . . . another item > God's word says a child of God is God's message >

"You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart." (2 Corinthians 3:2-3)

So, you want to read people who are growing in Jesus while ministering the word of God to you, so that you (like their example > 1 Peter 5:3) are growing in Jesus and how to love like Jesus who is growing in us as our new inner Person > Galatians 4:19.
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Does Jesus have the power to raise all dead humans from a decade ago?

The time has been set, for the resurrection and judgment of all the dead and whoever is alive and remain.

Why would he raise a portion call those who have died and reset time?

After the resurrection of the Dead time will no longer exist, the end of days mean the end of time, time equals days, time equals death, there will be no more death when time ends.
And do. you have a verse where TIME ENDS. ?

DAN P
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Anyone up for a chat thread?

That's... not far away. I hope you have good support for recovery!

I know where I'm going next, now. It hasn't been publicly announced yet, so I have to be a bit discreet still, but at least I can start to plan the move and research schools and all of those things.
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WE ARE AT WAR! Trump approves military action against Latin American cartels classified as terrorist organizations.

Paragraph III attests to external trauma, not internal trauma, dear. In an autopsy of a suspicious/untimely death, they remark on injuries that appear readily obvious on the body, both to deconstruct a crime, establish time of death, and contributing causes to death. That part of the report states that he had injuries that were visible, but superficial, and not a cause of his death nor a contributing factor.

The first line tells you cause of death, which is “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression” and the finding of “homicide,” which appears on the papers submitted to both the state and the court and were the basis of charges being brought.

You realize in order to make your theory remotely sound, you’d have to believe three autopsy reports lied, the six-eight doctors who were involved in them lied, the testifying doctors lied in court under oath, the defense who said they agreed that the doctors spoke without coercion based off of their findings from the autopsy (which they attested to three times), and the judge and jury who agreed with the findings also all lied.

It’s ok, you can admit you’re wrong. We all see it.
Nope. Show me in the autopsy that Floyd's death was a result of police intervention. Please! Prove me wrong! Have you even looked at the Toxicology report in paragraph VI?
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Is belief/non-belief a morally culpable state?

I say that your argument does not address the OP because the OP is inquiring into the relation between belief and culpability. Your response is something like, "If someone has a belief, refuses to consider any evidence to the contrary, and artificially and lazily produces supports for their belief, then they believe culpably." Right, so we have a case of a theoretical person who believes culpably, but we haven't done much work to elucidate the relation between belief and culpability.
Belief is a position that you hold on any given proposition which you consider or accept to be true. I'm using consider to imply some thought has gone into it and accept to imply that no investigation has been made.

If you accepted that I was telling the truth when I say that I have a phd in astrophysics, have written a best seller and won 3 Olympic gold medals then I wouldn't class that as you being culpable. Rather that you were being gullible.

But if you said that vaccines are dangerous because the guy in the pub said so and you intentionally ignore evidence to the contrary and try to convince others that you are right then you have moved from being gullible to being culpable.

You can't blame someone for being gullible. But you can blame them if you intentionally promote a belief that any honest investigation would prove false.
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ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

They ruled that LOOKING like an immigrant and doing something immigrants do (like waiting for a bus) is sufficient grounds.
Baloney. What he said was:

"To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court’s case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a 'relevant factor' when considered along with other salient factors."

One of the other relevant factors was NOT waiting for the bus.

The other factors are:
1. those individuals tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work;
2. that those individuals often work in certain kinds of jobs, such as day labor, landscaping, agriculture, and construction, that do not require paperwork and are therefore especially attractive to illegal immigrants;
3. and that many of those illegally in the Los Angeles area come from Mexico or Central America and
4. do not speak much English.

So, looking Hispanic is not a reason, waiting for a bus, is not a reason.
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US students' reading and math scores at historic lows: 'Devastating trend'

From the article:

“The Department of Education has notably been cutting staff and services under McMahon's leadership, including the researchers who produced the new nation's report card. President Donald Trump has also tasked McMahon with dismantling her departmentaltogether and handing control over education agendas to the states.”

Maybe stop dismantling it?
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The Cross – Then Surrender

While I do not doubt that many a child of God has received distinct and marked blessings at certain stages of life, I believe it is a great mistake to construct a theory out of it. Many a devout Christian has enjoyed the liberty of the Spirit under some such name as “the second blessing,” “higher life,” “a baptism of the Spirit,” “perfect love,” “entire sanctification” or “Spirit filled life.” But under whatever name, it is an experience, and it is made dependent upon the “surrender of self,” as it is called.

But notice: It occupies us with self instead of the Lord Jesus Christ. It may be a very lovely self, but self-occupation never helps the soul. It begets subtle pride (Gal 6:3—NC). There must be a fresh, daily feeding upon Him, in the Word. Again, it tends to divide God’s people into classes; some have experienced the “blessing,” and others have not.

Now, while it is perfectly true there are various stages of maturity in the Christian life, and while Scripture speaks of “fathers, young men, and children” (1Jn 2), yet it is not in this way of attainment. People do not set themselves to be fathers, etc. It is a matter of growth. Further, I am convinced that surrender is not what God calls for first, nor in this connection. You will find that where these systems call for surrender, God’s Word puts the Cross.

The sixth of Romans comes before the twelfth. In the latter we have the surrender, but it is not to get or to attain; it is because he has entered into what is his; he has accepted the wondrous fact of his death with Christ, and of the Spirit’s presence and power. A crucified man has no experience to speak of. To him the Lord Jesus Christ is all.

Keep the Cross in its scriptural perspective, dear brethren. Let us ever say with the Apostle, “God forbid that I should glory except in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world” (Gal 6:14). Not surrender, but death—an accomplished death—in the person of the Lord Jesus.

Thus we pass dry-shod, as the type has it, out of the Egypt-of-bondage to sin, into the Canaan of the liberty of the Spirit. Still with the sense of all the wondrous fullness of the blessing in Christ Jesus, we will say with the same dear servant of God we have just quoted, “Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect (mature), but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which I was apprehended of Christ Jesus” (Phl 3:12).

—S Ridout (1826–1895)







MJS daily devotion for September 9, 2025

The object of the Christian life is that we may center in the Object of the Father—His Beloved Son. -MJS

"If we go on with the Father, sweet as is the assurance that we belong to Him, yet the uppermost thought will in the long run be Himself. We shall come back to His Person. We shall in our praises weave with them what the Lord Jesus has done, suffered, and won for us; but the primary thought in our hearts is, not what we have gained, however true, but what He has been for us and what He is for us, yes, what He is in Himself." -J.B.S.

"There is usually only occupation with the Lord Jesus for the relief of the conscience, and if so, where does it stop? It stops when the relief is gained. But if He is the object of the heart, you will never be satisfied but in fellowship with Him where He is."

"I know of no arguments, and I am acquainted with no power, that will move the heart to devotedness except the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Himself and His love. It is possible to read books by the score, and to listen to the most faithful and blessed ministry for years on end, and yet never know the Lord Jesus as a present loving Object in heavenly glory. It is nigh impossible to see and know Him there by faith without a resulting intense desire to be wholly devoted to Him here.

"We have a new Person before us as the Object of our faith and affections; and as we drop ourselves and have the Lord Jesus as our Object, He is formed in us. What has been judicially accomplished at the Cross has its fruition by the Spirit in our souls, and it is by that principle that we grow." -C.A.C.

ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

Then let them get out of the country on their own volition, not because they were forcibly deported.
Nah. You want them, you can try to get them, but through all of us who won’t make it easy.
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ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

You can only speak toward your own goal. I know that Trump and conservatives have been at the forefront of stopping racism, and are pro-legal immigration.
That’s not what your cohorts are saying, they’re talking about profiling people of those makeups for interrogation and deportation.
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WE ARE AT WAR! Trump approves military action against Latin American cartels classified as terrorist organizations.

Refer to paragraph III of the actual autopsy report I provided and try again. All you have show was the examiner lied under oath in the kangaroo court because he was too cowardly to tell the truth that would send a BLM mob to attack him and his family.
Paragraph III attests to external trauma, not internal trauma, dear. In an autopsy of a suspicious/untimely death, they remark on injuries that appear readily obvious on the body, both to deconstruct a crime, establish time of death, and contributing causes to death. That part of the report states that he had injuries that were visible, but superficial, and not a cause of his death nor a contributing factor.

The first line tells you cause of death, which is “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression” and the finding of “homicide,” which appears on the papers submitted to both the state and the court and were the basis of charges being brought.

You realize in order to make your theory remotely sound, you’d have to believe three autopsy reports lied, the six-eight doctors who were involved in them lied, the testifying doctors lied in court under oath, the defense who said they agreed that the doctors spoke without coercion based off of their findings from the autopsy (which they attested to three times), and the judge and jury who agreed with the findings also all lied.

It’s ok, you can admit you’re wrong. We all see it.
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Liberal media accused of covering up Ukrainian girl's brutal murder in Dem-led city as video explodes online

He at least should have been in custody in a psychiatric facility and not on the street.
The fact is no one tried to put him in one despite his behaviors. If they couldn't have gotten him in one the prison will do. It turns out that the biggest predictor of future criminal behavior is past criminal behavior. This guy had enough chances that he should have been locked up permanently or at least for 50 years. Then this poor woman would still be alive.
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I hold a view similar to the Open View of God.

Good question, Surely God knew their location.
I know what you were suggesting about that scripture :) I meant if the following is not to be taken literally. How should it be interpreted?

Gen 6:5-7 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."
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