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RocksInMyHead · Oct 22, 2025

eleos1954 said:
He has also stated that he don't need the money and that he would give it to charities.

So it's an excuse to funnel federal money into causes that Trump supports, rather than his own pockets? Somehow, that doesn't make me feel any better about it.

Christworshiper · Oct 22, 2025

I just went food shopping and the prices are not going down at all.

RocksInMyHead · Oct 22, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
Cite proof please or remove the post - we would not to bear false witness.

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

Among those who say billionaire didn't pay: dishwashers, painters, waiters

www.usatoday.com

Donald Trump has a long history of not paying people - including his lawyers.

Always in His Presence said:
From MSN:

"But I was damaged very greatly," Trump added. "And any money that I would get, I would give to charity."

Remember: This is a man who lost close to 50% of his personal wealth his first term - and donated his salary each year.

For some perspective, a man with a net worth of $2,000,000,000 donating $400,000 is the equivalent of a man with a net worth of $1,000,000 donating $200. It's pretty insignificant.

Always in His Presence said:
So - no he is not gaining wealth through the office of President.

He didn't do a great job of it during his first presidency (though COVID takes a lot of the blame there for crashing the commercial real estate market), but he's really been raking it in since starting his campaign for his second term.

The Definitive Net Worth Of Donald Trump

What’s Donald Trump really worth? Forbes looks at everything on his balance sheet—including crypto, Truth Social and real estate—to determine the answer.

www.forbes.com

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/trump-family-amasses-6-billion-fortune-after-crypto-launch-567faec5

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-family-reportedly-1-billion-213107964.html

eleos1954 · Oct 22, 2025

Mercy Shown said:
In my reading of the bible I have come to Ezekiel 40 and 41. Here I read about a detailed description of a temple that does not exisit and never has. I began thinking about this and wondering if this is a failed prophecy or something else. These are my thoughts on it so far. Which one do you subscribe to?

The Context

Ezekiel 40–48 presents a remarkable vision of a temple given to the prophet in 573 BC, after Jerusalem and the first temple had been destroyed by Babylon. Ezekiel and the people were in exile, cut off from their land, their king, and the visible presence of God that had dwelled in the temple. Into that despair, God gave this vision to restore hope. The detailed description of architecture and measurements in chapters 40–42, the renewed worship and priesthood in 43–46, and the life-giving river and redivided land in 47–48 together form a picture of restoration and divine presence returning to a renewed people.

Main Views of the Temple’s Significance

Literal / Millennial Temple (Futurist View)

Some interpreters, especially within dispensational theology, see Ezekiel’s temple as a literal structure that will be built in a future millennial kingdom when Christ reigns on earth. They point to the extraordinary precision of the measurements as evidence that this is a real architectural plan. The sacrifices described are viewed not as atoning, since Christ’s sacrifice was once for all, but as memorial or symbolic acts of worship that look back to the cross. This view draws heavily on passages such as Ezekiel 43:7, where God calls the temple “the place of My throne,” and on the reinstated offerings in Ezekiel 43:18–27, interpreting them as part of a renewed worship system under Christ’s earthly rule.

Symbolic / Spiritual Temple (Typological View)

Others interpret the temple as a symbolic representation of God’s restored presence among His people, ultimately fulfilled in Christ and His Church. In this view, the detailed measurements and perfect symmetry signify holiness and divine order rather than literal construction. The New Testament supports this interpretation when Jesus identifies His own body as the true temple (John 2:19–21), and when Paul says that believers are “built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit” (Ephesians 2:19–22). The vision finds its ultimate fulfillment in Revelation 21–22, where the New Jerusalem has no temple because “the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.” Thus, Ezekiel’s temple points forward to the reality of God dwelling fully and eternally with His redeemed people.

Idealized Vision for Israel’s Restoration (Historical View)

A third interpretation sees Ezekiel’s temple as an idealized theological blueprint rather than a literal plan for construction. According to this view, the vision was meant to inspire holiness, hope, and repentance among the exiles by presenting a perfect image of worship and order under God’s rule. The post-exilic temple built under Zerubbabel and later expanded by Herod did not match Ezekiel’s plan, suggesting it was never intended as a physical design. Instead, it was a call for spiritual renewal, demonstrating that God’s presence would once again dwell among a sanctified people who obey His laws (Ezekiel 43:10–11).

Theological Themes

The first great theme of the temple vision is the restoration of God’s presence. In Ezekiel 10, God’s glory departed from the temple because of Israel’s sin, but in Ezekiel 43 His glory returns from the east, symbolizing reconciliation and renewed fellowship. Second, the precise measurements and divisions throughout the vision underscore holiness and order, teaching that God is transcendent and pure, and that access to Him must be rightly ordered. Third, the temple represents the renewal of true worship. The reestablished priesthood and offerings point to the principle that worship must conform to God’s holiness — a principle later fulfilled in worship “in spirit and truth” (John 4:23–24). Finally, the river flowing from the temple in chapter 47 symbolizes new creation and life, echoing the Garden of Eden and anticipating the river of life in Revelation 22. The temple thus becomes a picture of creation restored and sanctified by God’s presence.

Summary

In summary, the temple of Ezekiel 40–41 can be understood through three main lenses. The literal or futurist view sees it as a physical temple yet to be built in the messianic age. The symbolic or spiritual view understands it as a figure of Christ and His body, the Church, through whom God now dwells with His people. The ideal or historical view treats it as a visionary blueprint expressing God’s holiness and desire to restore His people after exile. Each view, in its own way, points toward the same ultimate truth — that God intends to dwell once again among a holy and renewed people.

My Take (Synthesis)

Taken together, Ezekiel’s temple is best understood as a vision of God’s presence restored to a sanctified people in a perfectly ordered creation. It carries both a spiritual fulfillment in Christ and His Church today, and a future consummation when God’s glory fills the new heavens and new earth. The temple’s meaning is not limited to architecture; it reveals the heart of God’s redemptive plan. In essence, Ezekiel’s temple signifies the full return of God’s presence to dwell among His people forever — the ultimate restoration of holiness, worship, and life.

The REAL temple is in heaven .... always has been.

fli · Oct 22, 2025

truthuprootsevil said:
God gives every person grace and mercy. The fact that any are alive and walking the Earth the fact that any were born are under God's grace and mercy.
The fact that he's giving every individual a chance to choose whom they will serve is giving grace and mercy.

To "justify" the ungodly seems to be speaking of God's just judgment that is passed.

Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! 15 For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." 16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH." 18 So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. NASU

Romans above does not agree with your statement. I did not post the above scripture, but I did mention it in my first post.

truthuprootsevil said:
Works alone is not the way.

And as James said faith without works is dead, so faith alone is not the way.

But I'm no scholar.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. NASU

I did cite the above. Would you call that a work?

Colossians 1:3 We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints; 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel NASU

It is a work given to us when we have hope in Jesus. But as it states in Matthew 5:7 we must be merciful people to get mercy.

truthuprootsevil said:
What does Romans 4:5 mean? | BibleRef.com

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, - What is the meaning of Romans 4:5?

www.bibleref.com

If you will read my first post, you will see that I did cite Romans 4:5. What in my post disagrees with Romans4:5 or why did you include it in your post?

JosephZ · Oct 22, 2025

Delvianna said:
Imagine living close to this...

For more than five years I lived less than 500 feet from a mosque. There was a second one located within a half a mile. Once you become used to it, you rarely notice the call to prayer.

eleos1954 · Oct 22, 2025

Say it aint so said:
President Donald Trump is pressing for his Justice Department to pay roughly $230 million as a settlement for investigations he faced during the Biden administration and his first term in office, sources familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC News Tuesday.

The extraordinary arrangement, as first reported by The New York Times, would likely first need sign-off from top officials in the department who previously served as Trump's defense attorneys or otherwise represented his allies.

The settlement negotiations stem from two separate administrative claims that were submitted by attorneys for Trump while he was out of office in 2023 and 2024. One sought damages over the investigation he and those in his orbit faced surrounding ties his 2016 campaign had to the Russian government.

Let that marinate.
All it takes is the sign off from current department heads who used to be his personal lawyers.
One has to wonder if they are still on retainer.

He has also stated that he don't need the money and that he would give it to charities.

camille70 · Oct 22, 2025

Virginia’s GDP growth drops from 6.2% to 1.7%. Three new economic reports issue warnings about why and what comes next.

The reports also suggest the state may be losing high-wage jobs but gaining lower-wage jobs.

Virginia’s GDP growth drops from 6.2% to 1.7%. Three new economic reports issue warnings about why and what comes next.

The reports also suggest the state may be losing high-wage jobs but gaining lower-wage jobs.

cardinalnews.org

Three new economic reports that came out last week suggest that Virginia’s next governor is going to have to spend a lot of her time dealing with a sluggish economy.

The state’s two largest metro areas — read: Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads, the state’s largest economic engines — are now losing jobs.
Virginia’s economic growth is now among the lowest in the country and is projected to remain slow through at least the first two years of the next governor’s term.

Unemployment is rising statewide and is projected to keep rising in 2026.
The three reports come from the Brookings Institution, Old Dominion University’s Dragas Center for Economic Analysis and Policy and the University of Virginia’s Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service. All three cite the same thing for this sour economic outlook — President Donald Trump’s policies, which have reduced federal employment and increased tariffs, both of which have hit Virginia uniquely hard because many of Virginia’s jobs have been tied to the federal government and beyond that the state has a trade-based economy

Florian7051 · Oct 22, 2025

chevyontheriver said:
Glad it went well.

The Hallow app is good. I don't use it myself but it seems a smart way to go.

If you cannot get it for some reason they can do a 'conditional baptism' just to cover for it. sort of 'accepting your original baptism if only you had proof of it' while covering the possibility that it never actually happened as everybody remembered. Hopefully the baptismal certificate will turn up.

It's a long slow process, but it does cover a lot of things, and give you plenty of opportunity to consider whether this is for you.

We did make it complicated, didn't we.

I hope they did explain that at communion time you can go up and get a blessing. Pick a line with a priest or a deacon because they can actually give the blessing. You CAN switch lines. Walk up with your arms crossed over your chests so they know you are seeking a blessing and not yet seeking the Eucharist. They bless you. That's it.

They explained that I could, but preferred if I didn't. They also said I was encouraged to take part in confession prior to converting which is the opposite of what I thought but it's very possible I misunderstood my battalion chaplain when it was explained to me many years ago. I didn't think to ask if I should start confession immediately or if I'm supposed to wait for 1 of these 2 sets of classes, but I can always ask again when we go for our tour of the grounds or just send an email.

Yarddog · Oct 22, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
We are saved by grace through faith.

Yes.

SabbathBlessings said:
Does faith void the law or establish it according to Scripture Rom3:31

As a Gentile, I am not under the Law. (Romans2:14)
The Law was given to the nation of Israel. (Remember Deuteronomy)
Paul is talking to Jews of the Roman church, in the first of the book of Romans. He later starts talking to the Gentiles. (Romans 11:13)

SabbathBlessings said:
Does faith obey God's voice or disobey in your view?

Faith leads us to obey God as Abraham did, who also did not have the Law. (Deuteronomy)

SabbathBlessings said:
Works of the law is when we go outside what God asks to try to save ourselves, like the Jews were doing that Paul was correcting.

Yes. God has written his commands in our hearts and we obey them through his Spirit.

SabbathBlessings said:
They thought all they had to do was circumcise themselves and they would be saved outside of Christ. Gal2:3 Acts 15:1 This is what Paul was correcting, not dishonoring God Rom2:21-23 and disobeying Him and His commandments which Paul said keeping is what matters 1Cor7:19.

We are under the New Covenant.
Luke 22:20
And the cup in like manner after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood, even that which is poured out for you.

Jesus is the meditator of the New Covenant. (Hebrews 9:15)

Clare73 · Oct 22, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Please quote where I said that you said that.

More misrepresentation. . .demonstrates a lot about the handling of Scripture in one's hermeneutic.

Jerry N. · Oct 22, 2025

Leaf473 said:
Amen to the Sabbath being about a relationship with Jesus

And Amen to it being celebrated everywhere in the world

a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem - John 4

If you keep the Sabbath, it forces you to turn away from the cares of the world, like working to pay bills, and it leads you to study of God’s word and praising Him for all the blessings. Paramount is the sacrifice of Christ.

Apple Sky · Oct 22, 2025

Flat Earth

UN logo

You'll notice that the continents are in the same position, what do they really know ?

B♭

camille70 · Oct 22, 2025

Without data centers, GDP growth was 0.1% in the first half of 2025, Harvard economist says | Fortune

Without data centers, GDP growth was 0.1% in the first half of 2025, Harvard economist says | Fortune

Is a U.S. without data centers a country without GDP growth?

fortune.com

U.S. GDP growth in the first half of 2025 was almost entirely driven by investment in data centers and information processing technology, according to Harvard economist Jason Furman. Excluding these technology-related categories, Furman calculated in a Sept. 27 post on X.com GDP growth would have been just 0.1% on an annualized basis, a near standstill that underlines the increasingly pivotal role of high-tech infrastructure in shaping macroeconomic outcomes.

Furman’s findings, shared online and echoed by financial analysts including Robert Armstrong of the Financial Times‘ Unhedged (the same writer who coined the term “TACO trade’), echo several months of observations on the remarkable surge in data-center infrastructure. In August, Renaissance Macro Research estimated, to date in 2025, the dollar value contributed to GDP growth by AI data-center buildout had surpassed U.S. consumer spending for the first time ever. That’s remarkable considering consumer spending is two-thirds of GDP.

LynnMaria · Oct 22, 2025

That's really interesting, thanks for sharing!!

Christworshiper · Oct 22, 2025

Today was my 27th straight day doing prayers of the Rosary. It was the Glorious Mysteries day. For the first time, I was overcome with emotions during the Coronation of the BVM. This was the first time that this ever happened. It was a beautiful experience. Has this happened to anyone else?

Clare73 · Oct 22, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
No, its the words Exo34:28, the terms were this:

Exo 19: 8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

The Ten Commandments started way before the terms and agreement was given according to God Exo20:11

Not according to the record of Ex 20:1-17, where the Decalogue was first given.

That's some seriously loose handling of Scripture. . .any ole' port in a storm.

Clare73 · Oct 22, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Loving neighbor is not breaking these commandments why love fulfils it. What is flawed is thinking we do not have to keep these commandments and its love,

What is also flawed is thinking you can be saved apart from faith in Jesus Christ.

Relevance? . .does misrepresentation work for you. . .not a good look.

JosephZ · Oct 22, 2025

Tuur said:
If you do want to go there, will observe that while local snowfalls are rare, have seen more measurable accumulations in the last half of my life than the first. Then there's the period of mild winters that led to the widespread planting of lupine as a cover crop and locals not buying heaters as an option on vehicles. Then back-to-back hard winters practically wiped out the seed stock in the US, and that ended that.

When you look at long-term averages, the mild/harsh winters and periods of higher or lower than average snowfall aren't as pronounced. What is notable, though, is how the average snowfall in most parts of the country has been decreasing over the years and temperatures warming.

This is an experiment that anyone can do for the temperatures and snowfall averages in their area of the country. Just go to weather.gov and access your local NWS office page and click on "Climate and Past Weather."

From there you will have the option to choose from several cities and find the averages for temperatures and precipitation for any time period you want. I did a comparison of the average temperature and snowfall for Greensboro, NC, and Roanoke, VA, since I'm located between the two. NOAA uses a 30-year period to come up with its average. The current period being used is 1991-2020. I did the same but used the current 30-year period, 1996-2025, and went back from there. I could only go back 70 years because the data is incomplete after that. Below are the results I got.

Greensboro Average Temperature:

1956-85 -- 57.6°
1966-95 -- 58.0°
1976-05 -- 58.2°
1986-15 -- 59.1°
1996-25 -- 59.7°

Average Temperature Increase of 2.1°

Greensboro Average Snowfall:

1956-85 -- 10.5"
1966-95 -- 8.9"
1976-05 -- 8.3"
1986-15 -- 7.4"
1996-25 -- 7.3"

Greensboro has seen a 30.5% decrease in average annual snowfall

Roanoke Average Temperature:

1956-85 -- 55.9°
1966-95 -- 56.0°
1976-05 -- 56.8°
1986-15 -- 57.2°
1996-25 -- 58.1°

Average Temperature Increase of 2.2°

Roanoke Average Snowfall:

1956-85 -- 26.3"
1966-95 -- 22.5"
1976-05 -- 17.9"
1986-15 -- 16.0"
1996-25 -- 13.8"

Roanoke has seen a 47.5% decrease in average annual snowfall

I know this is only very a short period of time considering the age of the planet, but it does show just how much warmer temperatures have gotten and how much snowfall has decreased in my area during my lifetime.

Washington, DC, has records that are complete going back to 1888. For the 50-year period 1888-1938, the average annual temperature was 55.5° and the average snowfall was 21.9". The period between 1939 and 1974 had an average temperature of 57.2° and an average snowfall of 17.3". The past 50 years, 1975 to 2025, have had an average temperature of 58.9° and an average snowfall of just 14.3". That's an increase of 3.4° in temperature and a 34.7% decrease in snowfall for Washington, DC, since 1888.

Mercy Shown · Oct 22, 2025

bling said:
I agree with most of what you point out, but if you can keep from quenching the Holy Spirit for an hour can you also keep from sinning for that hour?
If we look at it from the perspective of not: "I" being perfect, but the Spirit within in me, allowed to perfectly do what He can do perfectly. You can observe His perfection.
Trying to keep from sinning never works, but allowing the Spirit to freely work within you can avoid any sinning (you do not have time to sin).

I worked with sincere Christians in prison and for them to show any sign to the snitches constantly watching them, anything that might be considered less than what Christ would say or do, resulted in that information being told to the bulls (gang leaders). The Gang leaders would take this weakness as an opportunity to make the Christian prisoner his slave (often a sex slave), since the Christian might not be willing to be beaten to death (die for the cause). Killing the Christians has no value and making him a martyr can get the bull in trouble, since others might speak up for a hero.

I agree, but I know of no person who is perfect in their behaviour. Perhaps there is such a living person on the earth since I have not met every living person. I assume you do not claim perfection either so that leaves us dependent upon Christ and his perfection while ever growing more and more like Christ by the author and finisher of our faith. Does this make sense?

Ed Parenteau · Oct 22, 2025

David Lamb said:
I don't understand how you can say that He was born of a virgin, but that He didn't actually come physically the first time. If He didn't come physically, why does the bible say:

“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” (Joh 1:14 NKJV)

Like it says, He ""became flesh", He didn't come already in the flesh.

David Lamb said:
“Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”” (Ac 1:11 NKJV)

In other words, He didn't ascend invisibly, and He will not return invisibly.

That's not quite what it says. Did He disappear in a cloud first or did He go into heaven first?
Acts 1:9After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. 10They were looking intently into the sky as He was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”
How did they see Him go into heaven? In a cloud. How will He return? In the clouds of heaven. Proof:
Matthew 24:30
Mark 14:62
Matthew 26:64

Is there any proof where it says He will return in the flesh? Certainly not that I'm aware of, in fact, just the opposite can be proven. Hebrews 5:7 7"In the days of his flesh", Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence.
Here's a list of the phrase "in the days of" and you will find that it always confines something to a period of time.
https://biblehub.com/searchnt.php?q="in+the+days+of"

Jipsah · Oct 22, 2025

Hentenza said:
383 and 386

Nice try, but neither of those posts include a Scripture that says everyone lives forever. Probably because there is no Scripture that says that everyone lives forever, ,and the oly one that comes close is Satan telling Eve "Ye shall not surely die."

Clare73 · Oct 22, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Rom13:9 Mat4:4 seems to say something different. The Ten Commandments predates Moses according to the Testimony of God Exo20:11

So your understanding of Scripture has Ro 13:9, Mt 4:4 contradicting Gal 5:14, Ro 13:8: "he who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law"?

Scripture is not flawed, contradicting itself. . .it is your understanding that is flawed.

Always in His Presence · Oct 22, 2025

Fantine said:
What were his legal expenses? True to form he hasn't paid his lawyers.

Cite proof please or remove the post - we would not to bear false witness.

From MSN:

"But I was damaged very greatly," Trump added. "And any money that I would get, I would give to charity."

Remember: This is a man who lost close to 50% of his personal wealth his first term - and donated his salary each year.

So - no he is not gaining wealth through the office of President.

truthuprootsevil · Oct 22, 2025

fli said:
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: NASU

How can the ungodly be justified? To be justified means God pronounces the person to be righteous. How can a person be right with God and still be ungodly? To be ungodly means that the person does not obey God. This must be an example of God's grace- giving a person what they do not deserve. An ungodly person does not deserve to be called righteous. Does God give an ungodly person mercy- not give them what they deserve? Mercy would mean the ungodly person did not go to hell but would go to heaven instead.

Romans 11: 32 states that God may show mercy to all. God shows His mercy through those who have received His mercy. That does not mean that everyone receives mercy. By Romans 9:15 God will give compassion, or give mercy, to those whom He gives mercy. How does God decide on those who He will give mercy to?

Matthew 5:7 "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. NASU

Those who are merciful will receive mercy from God. In other words, if you are not a merciful, or compassionate, person, you will not get God's mercy.

James 2:12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment. NASU

Those who do not show mercy to others will be judged mercilessly.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. NASU

According to John when we show compassion to our brethren, we have passed into life eternal. This supports the 2 commandments explained in the first epistle of John.

1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. NASU

We are to keep those 2 commandments to abide in Him. Neither of the above 2 commandments were part of the OT 10 commandments. None of the OT commandments states we are to believe in Jesus.

In verse 24 above we are told to love each other. In 1John 1:3 John is writing his epistle to those who have fellowship with Jesus Christ the son of God. Not all the world has fellowship with Jesus Christ. In his gospel John makes the second commandment clear as to who each other means.

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." NASU

Jesus starts by saying it is a new commandment, meaning it is not part of the old covenant commandments. Second in the new commandment we are commanded to love as He, Jesus Christ, loved us. No where in the OT commandments are we commanded to love as God loves. No where in the OT are we commanded to love our brothers. We are told to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. While our brother maybe our neighbor, all our neighbors and brothers are not disciples of Christ.

God gives every person grace and mercy. The fact that any are alive and walking the Earth the fact that any were born are under God's grace and mercy.
The fact that he's giving every individual a chance to choose whom they will serve is giving grace and mercy.

To "justify" the ungodly seems to be speaking of God's just judgment that is passed.

Works alone is not the way.

And as James said faith without works is dead, so faith alone is not the way.

But I'm no scholar.

What does Romans 4:5 mean? | BibleRef.com

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, - What is the meaning of Romans 4:5?

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