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The Christians who would not compromise and dishonor God found themselves in a dilemma. Satan had worked things around so that you were forced to honor the pagan "day of the sun" or pay the penalty. Even after the Emperor's Sunday law, many Christians continued to honor and keep holy the seventh-day Sabbath that their Saviour had kept. God knew what was going on and had predicted that the man of sin would "think to change times and laws." Satan was about to pull off a world-wide hoax.

Bibles were forbidden by the priests. As the years went by, the new generations (without Bibles) would forget all about the Sabbath of the Lord.

Not only that - from time to time, great church councils were held. In nearly every one, the Sabbath which God had given as a memorial of His creation of the world was pressed down and Sunday was exalted. The pagan festival finally came to be regarded as the "Lord's day" (by Pope Sylvester, 314-337 A.D.) and the church leaders pronounced the Bible Sabbath a relic of the Jews, and those who honored it, in obedience to the fourth commandment of God, were pronounced to be "accursed."

To rip out the commandment right in the center, put in Sun- day worship as a counterfeit, take the Bibles away, and command the whole world to accept it - this was the king of all swindles!

Keep in mind that our God is kind and fair. Those who are keeping Sunday and breaking God's fourth commandment ignorantly are not under condemnation. It's only those who know what God commands and willfully disobey who are committing sin. God's enemy knows that to break one of God's commandments is a sin which hurts our Saviour and robs us of eternal life with Him if not repented of.

Satan laid this plot so deep that even many ministers are not aware of it. Many religious leaders are putting forth desperate efforts to keep the facts on this subject away from the people. Shocking but true, many ministers have not learned at school anything different than their teachers have learned before them. Then they teach their congregations what they learned from their teachers. It is perpetuated for generations. This is why even your own parents or grandparents may not have understood what God's word teaches about His seventh-day Sabbath. But when people honestly study the Bible for themselves - their eyes are opened. Many people take the preacher's word and just don't study God's word for themselves.

The Biblical Sabbath, however, is and has always been on the seventh day of the week, or Saturday. Despite the prevalence of Sunday worship in Christendom, we must look to the Bible as our authority and keep the seventh day Sabbath ordained by God. Now go into your history books and prove me wrong, I challenge you to do so.

So sisters and brothers read your bible for yourself and pray for understanding. Don’t let some unlearned or false preacher deceive you. The Sabbath of the Lord has, and will always be the seventh day of the week (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and has not been changed.
 
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Rom13:9 Mat4:4 seems to say something different. The Ten Commandments predates Moses according to the Testimony of God Exo20:11
Not in my Bible (Ex 19:25-20:17).

That explains a lot. . .
 
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Rom13:9 Mat4:4 seems to say something different. The Ten Commandments predates Moses according to the Testimony of God Exo20:11
The Decalogue is not presented in Scritpure before Moses.

And the sacrifices also predate the cross, so are you still making animal blood sacrifices?

That's a lotta' wrong "knowledge."
 
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Not in my Bible (Ex 19:25-20:17).

That explains a lot. . .
You're confusing a covenant/agreement, with God's laws.

God made a covenant/agreement to keep God's laws Exo34:28 Deut4:13, but according to the Testimony of God written and spoken by God Exo31:18 they came much sooner than when the covenant was made Exo20:11. They after all reside in heaven in the Most Holy of God's Temple Rev 11:19 Rev 15:5 Heb8:1-5 because a King has a government and a government needs laws to keep things orderly. God never left it up to man to write His holy and eternal laws, He personally numbered them, He named them, He claimed them as His and He personally wrote them. Sadly man has tried everything to chip away from them, but sadly it's just chipping away something far more valuable, where He no longer knows us Mat7:23 nor we know Him 1John2:4
 
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No, I am understanding the terms of the covenant, which is the Decalogue.
No that was the words of covenant. Exo 34:28 The terms was based on the people doing in the OC Exo 19:8 the New Covenant is established on better promises Heb8:6 based on what God will do Heb8:10 John14:15-18 if we don't rebel Rom8:7-8 Heb3:7-19

It still doesn't change when God said they started in the Ten Commandments Exo20:11 God's written and spoken Testimony Exo31:18 or change the location of where they are Exo 25:21 Rev 15:5 Rev11:19 now written in our hearts for His New Covenant people.
 
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That's what words of the covenant are; i.e., the terms of the covenant.
No, its the words Exo34:28, the terms were this:

Exo 19: 8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

The Ten Commandments started way before the terms and agreement was given according to God Exo20:11

I am okay agreeing to disagree. All will get sorted out at His soon return.

Be well.
 
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I’m still waiting for a post crucificion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. Anyone?
If you love Me, keep My commandments. John14:15 The 4th commandment is one of God's commandments Exo20:6 Deut4:13, just like any of the other 9 commandments James2:11. The 4th commandment is the one that tells us which God we are to worship Exo20:11 Rev 14:7 as there are many gods in this world but only one that has the power to sanctify a day and sanctify us and the power to create heaven and earth and all of these links to the Sabbath. Exo20:11 Eze20:12 Gen2:1-3
 
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Rom13:9 Mat4:4 seems to say something different. The Ten Commandments predates Moses according to the Testimony of God Exo20:11
So your understanding of Scripture has Ro 13:9, Mt 4:4 contradicting Gal 5:14, Ro 13:8: "he who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law"?

Scripture is not flawed, contradicting itself. . .it is your understanding that is flawed.
 
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So your understanding of Scripture has Ro 13:9, Mt 4:4 contradicting Ro 13:8: "he who loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law"?

Scripture does not contradict itself, therefore, your understanding is flawed.
Loving neighbor is not breaking these commandments why love fulfils it. What is flawed is thinking we do not have to keep these commandments and its love, when in reality its sin and rebellion Rom8:7-8 Heb7:3-19 as if we can worship other gods and that is loving God with all our heart mind and soul or breaking the least of these commandments Mat5:19 or stealing from our neighbor and that's loving our neighbor, the very opposite of what the Scriptures teaches. 1John5:2-3
 
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Loving neighbor is not breaking these commandments why love fulfils it. What is flawed is thinking we do not have to keep these commandments and its love,
What is also flawed is thinking you can be saved apart from faith in Jesus Christ.

Relevance? . .does misrepresentation work for you. . .not a good look.
 
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No, its the words Exo34:28, the terms were this:

Exo 19: 8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

The Ten Commandments started way before the terms and agreement was given according to God Exo20:11
Not according to the record of Ex 20:1-17, where the Decalogue was first given.

That's some seriously loose handling of Scripture. . .any ole' port in a storm.
 
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Not according to the record of Ex 20:1-17, where the Decalogue was first given.

That's some seriously loose handling of Scripture. . .any ole' port in a storm.
God said they were commandments prior to them being written Exo16:26-28 and in the Ten Commandments said they started way before Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3

Believe as you wish, it has no impact in my life, but we will all be accountable for what we teach Mat5:19 Col2:8
 
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What is also flawed is thinking you can be saved apart from faith in Jesus Christ.

Relevance? . .does misrepresentation work for you. . .not a good look.
Please quote me ever saying that. I am not sure why it always turns this way when trying to discuss Scriptures with you, but I will keep you in my prayers.

Faith however is not disobeying God. Luke 6:46 That is sadly just lack of faith and unbelief, which is sin and rebellion. Rom8:7-8 Heb3:7-13

Anyway, its best I move on. Take care.
 
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If you love Me, keep My commandments. John14:15 The 4th commandment is one of God's commandments Exo20:6 Deut4:13, just like any of the other 9 commandments James2:11. The 4th commandment is the one that tells us which God we are to worship Exo20:11 Rev 14:7 as there are many gods in this world but only one that has the power to sanctify a day and sanctify us and the power to create heaven and earth and all of these links to the Sabbath. Exo20:11 Eze20:12 Gen2:1-3
Jesus fulfiiled (completed) the law and became the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt 12:8) and He is now the Christian’s rest (Heb. 4).

Now, please post a post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.
 
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Jesus fulfiiled (completed) the law and became the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt 12:8) and He is now the Christian’s rest (Heb. 4).

Now, please post a post resurrection verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.
I wish you well with this, according to Scripture there is no rebellion in Christ rests to any of His commandments Rev 14:11-12 Isa 48:18 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God according to God Exo 20:8-11 Exo20:6 no different than the commandment to only worship God or not steal from our neighbor, so I guess we all find out one day soon if Jesus became the 4th commandment so we can profane it and keep God's holy day Isa58:13 as a common day Eze22:26. It never worked out before doing this Eze20:13 etc . I do not suspect it will again Heb4:11, but I guess we shall find out soon enough.

I personally find keeping the Sabbath to be a huge blessing Isa 56:1-2 and has only changed by life for the better. There's not much I am missing, nothing from the world can surpass the special time God set aside from Creation, Gen2:1-3 Exo20:11 on the Holy Day of the Lord thus saith the Lord Isa 58:13 on the only day He sanctified Gen2:1-3 made for man Mark2:27 Isa56:2, to bless and sanctify us. Eze20:12 so we can be sure we are worshipping the One true God Eze20:20 Rev14:7 Exo 20:11 Those who enter His rest Also, (in addition), cease from their works as God did Heb4:10 on the seventh day Heb4:4 Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3.

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and Jesus who is God told us how to keep the Sabbath and warned over and over of profaning. Jesus who is Lord of the Sabbath never told us to not keep the Sabbath, He Himself kept it Luke4:16 and said it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath Mat12:12 the same God who said its evil to profane Neh13:17 so who is man to tear down the Lord of the Sabbaths holy day Isa 58:13, only day He sanctified Gen2:1-3 the day that connects Him as our Creator Exo20:11 and Sanctifier Eze20;12 its like someone coming into your house and tearing it down. Its what Jesus condemned. Mat21:13

Isa56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
 
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I wish you well with this, according to Scripture there is no rebellion in Christ rests to any of His commandments Rev 14:11-12 Isa 48:18 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God according to God Exo 20:8-11 Exo20:6 no different than the commandment to only worship God or not steal from our neighbor, so I guess we all find out one day soon if Jesus became the 4th commandment so we can profane it and keep God's holy day Isa58:13 as a common day Eze22:26. It never worked out before doing this Eze20:13 etc . I do not suspect it will again Heb4:11, but I guess we shall find out soon enough.
I guess I’ll take this as you being unable to post a post crucifixion verse that commands the Christian to follow the 4th commandment.
 
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