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LizaMarie · Jul 12, 2025

LizaMarie said:
No I don't believe he is kidding. I mean- I think he would do it if he could, but he knows he likely can't.
And conservatives who are OK with this(And I am a conservative who wants to see the border secured, remain in Mexico, don't like ICE being attacked and think the DEM party should call this out but they don't)

They should. Because what happens when the Democrat party gets back in power and a Democrat President were to say something like this about someone they disagreed with politically? They could say: " So and so is a domestic terrorist- they pray in front of and block abortion clinics, etc." I think I'll strip their citizenship."
Do people realize how dangerous this is?

Chesterton · Jul 12, 2025

You obviously underestimated rabid emus.

RABID

LizaMarie · Jul 12, 2025

joymercy said:
Trump floats stripping Rosie O’Donnell of US citizenship: ‘She is a Threat to Humanity’

“Because of the fact that Rosie O’Donnell is not in the best interests of our Great Country, I am giving serious consideration to taking away her Citizenship,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Surely, President Trump is just kidding around?

No I don't believe he is kidding. I mean- I think he would do it if he could, but he knows he likely can't.
And conservatives who are OK with this(And I am a conservative who wants to see the border secured, remain in Mexico, don't like ICE being attacked and think the DEM party should call this out but they don't)

newton3005 · Jul 12, 2025

Whither the “Harmful Spirit?”

There are stories in the Bible whose main plot is given the most attention but missing are the details behind the plots. For example, a lot of people are familiar with the Biblical story of “David and Goliath,” but are they familiar with the events leading up to that famous encounter between the two, which has fostering ideas including the size of a person may not necessarily make him a victor in a fight with a much smaller person? And where does the “Harmful Spirit” fit in? Well, here’s the story behind the story.

It starts in 1 Samuel 15:1 in the OT. In those days, the Philistines were a massive headache to the people of Israel. Do things like this ever change with the people Israel? Anyway, as told in 1 Samuel 15, the Lord says to Samuel to go to Saul and tell him God has anointed Saul King over Israel. Samuel further says to Saul that God wants him to annihilate the Amalekites, who had tormented the Hebrews on their way to Israel in their 40-year journey from Egypt. Samuel says that God wants nothing left, not “man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey,” as it says in 1 Samuel 15:3.

So, Saul defeats the Amalekites, but contrary to God’s command, Saul spares its King and takes alive “the best of the sheep and of the oxen and of the fattened calves and the lambs, and all that was good,” not destroying them, according to 1 Samuel 15:9.

In Verse 10, God tells Samuel He regrets having made Saul King since Saul, by sparing the animals mentioned above, has disobeyed him. In subsequent Verses Samuel conveys this message to Saul, and he also essentially tells Saul that God has fired him as King of Israel.

What follows in Chapter 16 is a tie-in that eventually leads to David’s fight with Goliath. In 1 Samuel 16:14–17, God sends a “harmful spirit” to torment Saul. Saul’s servants, seeing this, tells Saul that a man who is “skillful in playing the lyre” will make Saul well when he plays it. Saul tells his servants to provide such a man. The man happens to be David. Not only that, but before David appears to Saul, David in 1 Samuel 16:12 is anointed the new King of Israel by God, and Saul doesn’t know this; neither do most of Israel’s people.

So, when David appears before Saul and plays his lyre, Saul is made well and he keeps David by his side, not knowing that he’s keeping by his side his own replacement.

Shortly thereafter, in Chapter 17, Goliath issues his challenge to Saul to send one man alone against Goliath to fight him. David, knowing he has Saul’s ear, convinces Saul to let him fight Goliath. Saul, convinced, says ‘OK, go,’ and the rest is history.

Would David have known of the challenge if he wasn’t in Saul’s company? Who knows? But in Chapter 18, Saul becomes jealous of David who is glorified by the Israelis, to the point where he tries to kill David with a spear. But the Harmful Spirit appears again in 1 Samuel 18:10, causing Saul to rave within his house. With the presence of the Harmful Spirit, though, Saul misses and he realizes at that point that God is with David and He had departed from Saul.

Too make a long story short, after a number of interceding events including battles involving David, in 2 Samuel 5:1–3 David is anointed King by the people of Israel. All things considered, it seems the “Harmful Spirit” was harmful only to Saul.

Say it aint so · Jul 12, 2025

Always in His Presence said:
IMHO - Using the death of innocents to promote a political perspective is about as low as it gets...

It was a natural disaster - just three days before the authorities reviewed the evacuation plans the camp is required to have and approved them. How do you prepare for a flood that rose 32 feet in less than an hour?

Good grief - let them mourn the loss of their children without making them have to relive it by making a political swipe at the party you do not agree with. They are not even buried yet.

Kindness and compassion are what is needed - not politicizing.

That is my .02

You're one step behind. The use of political perspective to not just deny, but spit in the eye of those providing funds to pay for a system you know darn well you need, is about a low as it gets. That system in place would have saved lives.

essentialsaltes · Jul 12, 2025

Canuckster said:
Oh yes.... the Internet is a much safer place with experts on the left to differentiate the conspiracies from the theories.

Sure, the situation would have been much better if Wired hadn't run the story, and the first news of the editing came from Mike Flynn.

Chesterton · Jul 12, 2025

Wow, thread is thirteen pages long. Can't believe people are still desperately grasping at straws to try to politicize a natural disaster.

essentialsaltes · Jul 12, 2025

The finest diplomacy! Making Autocrats Gleeful Again!
Maybe he can fix everything like he did with North Korea.

Shunned Myanmar leader thrilled at US recognition after Trump tariff letter

Min Aung Hlaing expresses ‘sincere appreciation’ for letter from US president threatening 40% tariff

Myanmar’s military leader has praised Donald Trump and asked him to lift sanctions, as the junta sought to capitalise on a tariff letter from the US president believed to be Washington’s first public recognition of its rule.

US diplomats do not officially engage with Min Aung Hlaing or the ruling junta, which seized power from the elected government of Aung San Suu Kyi.

Strong in Him · Jul 12, 2025

SimplyMe said:
But while we are at it, James Irwin, the 8th person to walk on the moon, is now a Born Again Christian. So do you deny his testimony or just his consistent statements that he did walk on the moon and saw a globe Earth from space? Why would he continue the alleged lie after becoming a committed Christian?

Sadly, she probably will.
Charles Duke is also a Christian, his testimony is on YouTube and Apple Sky said that she once found it very moving - so much so that she said that Flat Earth was nonsense, repented for having doubted the astronauts and asked for God's help in sticking to her new beliefs in a globe earth.
Then she changed her mind again and started calling Charles Duke a liar.

essentialsaltes · Jul 12, 2025

Conspiracy Theories About the Texas Floods Lead to Death Threats

Disinformation around a “weather weapon” and cloud seeding is being widely promoted by everyone from anti-government extremists to GOP influencers—leading to real-world consequences.

Death threats over Texas flooding cartoon force museum journalism event to be postponed

An online fury erupted this week over an editorial cartoon in The Buffalo News by Pulitzer Prize-winner Adam Zyglis showing a man in a MAGA cap being swept away by the Texas floodwaters.

Larniavc · Jul 12, 2025

Love365 said:
Is there something wrong with the original post?

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Larniavc · Jul 12, 2025

Love365 said:
What information do you think I’m lacking?

AI answer.

Larniavc · Jul 12, 2025

Love365 said:
What if there were four new observer seats ?

Russia would immediately attempt to annex the two seats on either side.

essentialsaltes · Jul 12, 2025

Why are these enemies of the people allowed to ask questions of our commander in chief?

Love365 · Jul 12, 2025

Gene2memE said:
Depends on the seat and the body it resides in. Generally speaking, their role is to report on the goings on (discussion, debate, decisions) within a foreign political body in order to facilitate common goals or enhance co-operation.

In the case of the European Parliament, observers are taken from prospective member states in the process of joining the EU (ie, they've formally commenced accession negotiations). In the case of the US Congress, there are no foreign observers. Same with the Russian Duma.

The Council of Europe has observer seats (US, Canada, Japan, Mexico, the Vatican), which are intended to enhance co-operation on treaties/arrangements that they are jointly involved in. Observer states need to "share the ideals and values of the Council of Europe" and be engaged in dialogue "particularly in that of democratic security with a view to reinforcing democratic institutions, establishing the rule of law and reinforcing human rights".

Russia doesn't share the ideals and values of the Council of Europe.
Russia isn't reinforcing democratic institutions, establishing the rule of law and reinforcing human rights

As for whether a Russian observer seat would have done anything to avoid the Russian invasions of Ukraine, I suggest you read up on recent history.

Because Russia had one seat in the Council of Europe,
you don’t want to try 4 new seats ?

essentialsaltes · Jul 12, 2025

Yes, but BIG SAVINGS!

‘TERMINATED!’ Trump Calls to End FEMA and Let States Manage Disasters for ‘BIG SAVINGS’

Trump has made similar comments since taking office, but in his most recent post added that FEMA is “now under review and investigation” – presumably by Elon Musk’s DOGE. According to recent reports, the three states that have collected the most in FEMA funding are Florida, Louisiana, and...

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US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told a Cabinet meeting Monday that the department would move to “eliminate” the government’s disaster relief agency, days after President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing state and local governments to “play a more active and significant role” in responding to such catastrophes.

essentialsaltes said:
The spokesperson said under Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and Richardson "FEMA is shifting from bloated, DC-centric dead weight to a lean, deployable disaster force that empowers state actors to provide relief for their citizens."

SimplyMe · Jul 12, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Yes, OK each to his own.

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That isn't much of an argument -- space is fake because CGI has gotten much better? Though, honestly, that Mars clip doesn't even require CGI -- there are various spots in the American West that look like Mars (other than maybe coloring the sky).

But while we are at it, James Irwin, the 8th person to walk on the moon, is now a Born Again Christian. So do you deny his testimony or just his consistent statements that he did walk on the moon and saw a globe Earth from space? Why would he continue the alleged lie after becoming a committed Christian?

NewLifeInChristJesus · Jul 12, 2025

Xeno.of.athens said:
Jesus encouraged his disciples to struggle against sins. We are also his disciples. We also struggle against sins.

Saints like Maximilian Kolbe taught that repeated falls can be occasions for deeper humility and dependence on grace—not despair.

The Church sees the struggle with sin as a path to holiness, not a sign of failure. As Augustine said, “God would not allow evil if He were not powerful enough to bring a greater good from it.”

The Church offers Confession and the Eucharist as means of grace to strengthen the soul against sin.

Prayer, fasting, and cultivating virtues like chastity, humility, and temperance are essential tools in this struggle.

I encourage every reader of this post, Catholic and non-Catholic to take courage from the holy scriptures and from the example of the saints and the teaching of the Church in their struggle against sins.

I am having a hard time relating to this post. What is the goal you are promoting?

wing2000 · Jul 12, 2025

Judge Blocks Trump Administration Tactics in L.A. Immigration Raids

In the orders, the judge, Maame E. Frimpong of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, directed agents to stop racial profiling in the course of seeking out immigrants and mandated that the federal government, which has deployed hundreds of agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other agencies in Los Angeles County, ensure detainees have access to legal counsel.
“What the federal government would have this Court believe — in the face of a mountain of evidence presented in this case — is that none of this is actually happening,” the judge wrote of the tactics barred in her order.

She said that “roving patrols” without reasonable suspicion violated the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution and that denying access to lawyers violated the Fifth Amendment.

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