What we are seeing is anarchy and violence from the left. Supported by Democratic voters. The same voters who claim Congress created laws and Trump has to follow them.

With apparently the exception of immigration law. And when we dont like the enforcement of law we will get violent. I think its time LE arrests every single person who obstructs them and charge them with a federal crime. They need to bring in transport trucks and throw everyone in the back and haul them off to receive official federal charges and be put in jail. Felony charges should be filed with all who attack an officer.

The left has finally shown their stripes. These were people who were LEGALLY arrested. The Marijuana farm was legally raided with a warrant. So was the place in LA. All this "warrant" business from the left is all lies. They dont care about a warrant. They care about anarchy and revolution. And they are bringing it.

FaithT said:

I’ve got tinnitus but it must be mild because it doesn’t interfere with anything. Most of the time I don’t even realize my ears are ringing. But now that I’m posting about it I’m aware of it.

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That is the strange thing about our attention. I can be sitting there in outer silence a nd it seems loud. And yet I can stil shift my attention away from it. That is part of what happens in the practice of Centering Prayer. We practice shifting our attention away from all our daily distractions and refocusing where we want it , on the Lord.

A New Dawn said:

1. You must have missed that part of the Politifact fact check that says the sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the house. He is the go-between for the Speaker and the Capitol Police. I highly doubt that the second in command made that decision himself.

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Then please document exactly when Speaker Pelosi made that decision herself.

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2. Steven Sund, chief of the Capitol Police at the time, requested for National Guard troops several times, before they were actually asked for by Pelosi and the sergeant-at-arms.

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You forgot to provide documentation for this claim.

A New Dawn said:

3. President Trump did request National Guard troops for Jan. 6 in the days leading up to that.

Transcripts Show President Trump's Directives to Pentagon Leadership to "Keep January 6 Safe" Were Deliberately Ignored

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on House Administration

cha.house.gov

Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat'l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Keith Kellogg said President Donald Trump requested National Guard deployments in Washington D.C. before Jan. 6, 2021.

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So why weren't they there, then? And what part did Speaker Pelosi herself play in that?

-- A2SG, she was the one you claimed was responsible, did you not?

FireDragon76 said:

The deaths are definitely climate-change related (1 in 1,000 year rainfall that came down relatively suddenly), so the argument I suppose is, they should have known to update their flooding estimates.

The Christian Post at least are talking frankly about something that isn't hype . Many southern states have development patterns that involve a "good old boy" network used to waiving aside environmental concerns. And climate change related risks? It's often a political football nobody wants to touch if it involves raising property insurance rates and development costs, which are already rising along the sunbelt. Nobody wants to say, "the emperor has no clothes", where the developers have huge lobbying interests in state houses (true in Florida as well), and are used to selling swampy muck as "prime real estate".

I live in Orlando, and while it's not quite as low lying as parts of Texas, it's basically all swampland that developers pretend isn't flood prone, when in fact much of it is, especially when you plaster concrete parking lots everywhere.

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First, there's no indication that it's "climate change" related. The problem is the lack of a long baseline here in the US. For the US. 250 years is a long time. For Europe, that's practically yesterday. Consistent weather records in the US are a surprisingly recent thing, only going back to the last half of the 19th Century, if we're lucky. Before that, it's spotty and highly dependent on settlement and if someone bothered to note it.

Here's something I noticed last year. Pecan trees didn't fair well. Had seen that happen in other areas that experienced hurricanes, so started wondering just how old these pecan groves were. Surprise! There wasn't a big push locally until about a century ago, and I sort of remembered a big 19th Century storm that came through. Trying to track that down, found this resource here: Historical Hurricane Tracks I put in "Atlantic Basin" and the results were interesting. Out of curiosity, compared that to the natural range of pecans. Another surprise: the natural range is partially out of the areas where most recorded tropical system tracks have gone through in the SE US. Then realized that these storm tracks have a relatively short baseline. Some famous storms aren't recorded, likely because there's insufficient record. Since the soil and climate in parts of the SE are out of the native range of pecans, can't help but wonder if the reason they didn't exist locally until someone set them out was because of those storms. That would indicate this is something that's been going on for a long time, at least in human terms.

The regular flooding I observed that came close to the all-time record was in the 1990s. The all time record was set around 1920s, the point being it was higher then than now. That doesn't mean flooding could never be higher, only that it's not fitting climate change assumptions.

Second, I had to think a moment about the "good old boy" reference in regards to building. "Good old boy" networking is, well, networking, but as you've notices, it's more "I know you, you know me, so go ahead, it will be alright." But my pause is that in most cases that's not even necessary. Your land? Build what you please. Permitting and inspections were more of a city thing. Outside of it;, it's whatever, or was whatever.

Counties are getting more into permitting over things like septic tanks due to some letting raw sewage run on top of the ground. Not joking here. But such wasn't the norm except in municipalities.

As to what's required to build in Texas, don't have the slightest idea.

FWIW, the elevation that flooded in Texas is over 1,000 feet above sea level. The problem is all relative elevation and the terrain that flooded being like in a little valley.

Xeno.of.athens said:

Jesus encouraged his disciples to struggle against sins. We are also his disciples. We also struggle against sins.

Saints like Maximilian Kolbe taught that repeated falls can be occasions for deeper humility and dependence on grace—not despair.

The Church sees the struggle with sin as a path to holiness, not a sign of failure. As Augustine said, “God would not allow evil if He were not powerful enough to bring a greater good from it.”

The Church offers Confession and the Eucharist as means of grace to strengthen the soul against sin.

Prayer, fasting, and cultivating virtues like chastity, humility, and temperance are essential tools in this struggle.

I encourage every reader of this post, Catholic and non-Catholic to take courage from the holy scriptures and from the example of the saints and the teaching of the Church in their struggle against sins.

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How about repentance? I did not read that in your post. Jesus Christ of Nazareth taught repentance, to change ones mind, to turn away, from sin. He sent His Holy Spirit to Help!
Blessings

A New Dawn said:

Actually, yes. Several of the aides have admitted to using the autopen without authorization, and since none of them were elected to be the president of the United States, it is a treasonous offense.

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Who exactly were these aides, and when will they be indicted?

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Although treason is generally considered a wartime offense, there are other times the accusation can be applied, if the intent to betray can be seen as the motivation. In the current investigation, Biden’s doctor, an old family friend, used the 5th as a response to all the questions asked of him, an indication of guilt, itself, but without the ability to ascertain the motive.

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First, invoking the fifth amendment is never viewed as an admission of guilt in a court of law.

Second, he cannot divulge private, confidential patient information per HIPAA. He could lose his license to practice medicine for that.

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To be clear, I am not accusing Biden (he was the puppet), or the doctor (he somehow thought he was being loyal to a friend). It is the people who actually used the auto pen with the intent to betray.

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And who, exactly, are these people? I look forward to their trial.

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But why am I explaining to people who have accused Trump if treason without a shred of evidence?

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When did I do that?

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rocknanchor said:

What is the evil master of the mind? God has revealed it to you, many are still in darkness over it by being tripped up by the lack of "the love of the truth" they cannot escape the "strong delusion" of verse 3,

"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, ,"

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There are Paul's examples of letting ''them alone'', committing heretics to darkness. His tears to compel and ''warn'' are for fellow warriors, the beloved. But the delusion is the result of no small infraction of those who choose to disregard and treat redemption as an unholy work by targeting another. The trick for them is how can their heart whose lips speak so fair for the Savior be so removed from Him when,

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So where is it stated in The Bible that satan only works against Christ sheep.

Why does satan need to blind an unbeliever, as Calvinist say they are dead to began with.

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We were all dead to begin with, dead in trespasses and sins. Satan, in spite of what Jesus says about all that the Father gives Him will come to Him, will try and stop people believing in the Saviour.

Valletta said:

First, as to the banning of Bible, you, as a good number of others, were simply misled. I hope you now realize how Catholics have and do revere the Bible. The Bible is the book of the Catholic Church--no Catholic Church, no Bible. As to governments, heads of state have often made whatever their own religion as that of the people. Moral issues, such as abortion and human trafficking, are often caught up in politics and what any religion can and should do, including the Catholic Church, is to continue to address those moral issues as per the teachings of Jesus passed down through the Apostles. Over the almost 2000 years of the Catholic Church there have been numerous problems and wrongs that needed to be righted, the times of the reformation were no different in this respect. There are well-known cases of saints coming forward having to straighten out the popes. It is the unfortunate results of the reformation that such a loss of unity took place.

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Yes many Catholics do and have revered the bible. But I am not the one who has been misled about what we are discussing. The majority of the leadership of Roman Catholicism has warred against the spreading of the biblical gospel throughout its history by their teachings which greatly contradict many biblical truths. Also by literally preventing all who would submit to their usurped authority via illicit relationships with kings, queens, and governments, from having the scriptures in a language they could understand for themselves. As the facts of history have chronicled. Let's take a look at a couple of links I have already provided again, and expound upon the implications with further examination of more events directly tied to the issue of Rome's Index of Forbidden Books. From which point we will further address the more specific histories which relate to Rome's censorship of the bible.

The Roman Index of Forbidden Books, by Francis S. Betten, S.J.—A Project Gutenberg eBook

Quote below from link above, emphasis is mine.

The Roman Index of
Forbidden Books - 1909

BRIEFLY EXPLAINED FOR CATHOLIC
BOOKLOVERS AND STUDENTS BY
FRANCIS S. BETTEN, S.J.​

Rule 10. Episcopal approbation, to be printed in the beginning or at the end of the book, is required for all editions of the Bible or parts of the Bible in any language, likewise for all prayer books, books of devotion and of practical piety. Without episcopal authorization such publications are forbidden, though they may have been issued by the most learned and pious men.

Note 2. All editions of the Bible, edited by non-Catholics, in ancient as well as modern languages, are permitted to those, and those only, who are engaged in serious theological or biblical studies, provided, however, that the prolegomena and annotations do not of set purpose impugn the Catholic faith. It is not enough that the text itself is faithfully and completely rendered.

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Index of Prohibited Books

Quotes below from link above, emphasis is mine.

The Index of Prohibited Books (Index Librorum Prohibitorum) was a list of written works condemned as heretical or injurious to the Christian faith by the Catholic Church at the Council of Trent in 1563. It remained in effect until 1966 when it was suspended, but Catholics were still expected to abide by its basic precepts.

The Council of Trent (1545-1563) was the first comprehensive effort by the Catholic Church to respond to the challenge raised by the Protestant Reformation (1517-1648). The Council effectively began what is known as the Counter-Reformation (also the Catholic Reformation, 1545 to c. 1700), which reestablished the authority of the Catholic Church. The Council of Trent decreed the Vulgate translation of the Bible as the only authoritative scripture, reformed abuses within the Church, clearly defined terms such as 'justification', 'sacraments' and 'penance', and condemned the Protestant Reformation as heresy…………………..

I: All books which have been condemned either by the supreme pontiffs or by ecumenical councils before the year 1515 and are not contained in this list, shall be considered condemned in the same manner as they were formerly condemned………….

III: The translations of writers, also ecclesiastical, which have till now been edited by condemned authors, are permitted provided they contain nothing contrary to sound doctrine. Translations of the books of the Old Testament may, in the judgment of the bishop, be permitted to learned and pious men only, provided such translations are used only as elucidations of the Vulgate edition for the understanding of the Holy Scriptures and not as the sound text. Translations of the New Testament made by authors of the first class of this list shall be permitted to no one, since great danger and little usefulness usually results to readers from their perusal. But if with such translations as are permitted, or with the Vulgate edition some annotations are circulated, these may also, after the suspected passages have been expunged by the theological faculty of some Catholic university or by the general inquisition, be permitted to those to whom the translations are permitted. Under these circumstances, the entire volume of the sacred books, which commonly called the biblia Vatabli, or parts of it, may be permitted to pious and learned men. From the Bibles of Isidore Clarius of Brescia, however, the preface and introduction are to be removed, and no one shall regard its text as the text of the Vulgate edition……..

Finally, all the faithful are commanded not to presume to read or possess any books contrary to the prescriptions of these rules or the prohibition of this list. And if anyone should read or possess books by heretics or writings by any author condemned and prohibited by reason of heresy or suspicion of false teaching, he incurs immediately the sentence of excommunication. He, on the other hand, who reads or possesses books prohibited under another name shall, besides incurring the guilt of mortal sin, be severely punished according to the judgment of the bishops.

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From the above highlighted sections of quoted materials, among the few english translations of the index’s under examination which I could find, we can ascertain the following.

Catholics were forbidden to read and or probably therefore own, any Bible that did not have an official printed or stamped church approval in the beginning, or at the end of the book.

None but those engaged in serious theological or biblical studies, with permission from the church, were allowed to have or read any Bibles edited by non Catholics. Even at that, such could only read them if they contained no question or critical critique of the church. Regardless of how accurate a translation they were or not. Any Roman Catholic however, who wished to translate the bible into the vernacular or language of the common people, would likely be excommunicated for doing so. Thereby of course, making their translation a forbidden one.

The Catholic church declared a translation of the Bible (the Vulgate), which most of the populations of Europe could no longer read or understand, to be the only authoritative translation of the Bible. While forbidding the reading of newer translations of the Bible written specifically for the purpose of those very people, to know and understand the Holy Scriptures for themselves. As the following links and or quotes state.

What Happened to Latin After the Fall of Rome?

Quotes below from link above, emphasis is mine.

Latin’s diverging paths

From 75 BC to the 3rd century AD, Classical Latin was the norm, at least in written works. This eventually evolved into Medieval Latin from the 600s to 1000s AD. While Medieval Latin was still spoken by European elites, common people spoke their own local dialects. It was important for elites to be able to talk to other elites from other regions, but the local dialects were becoming increasingly diverse. As a result, they also became less and less intelligible to people outside those local regions.

By the 5th century AD, Vulgar Latin was already divided into several dialects and forms. As the Western Empire fell and the cultural sphere fragmented, the various dialects began to evolve in different directions……………………….

The process was slow but real. Nobody had any idea of it; they thought they spoke Latin, just as ever. But it had been 800 years since Latin was first codified into a written language, and the written High Latin and spoken Vulgar Latin had separated quite effectively. Already in 753, the Papal legates complained they had difficulties understanding the envoys of the Frankish king Pepin the Short……………………..

In the 1000s AD, we reach an important linguistic crossroads, where elites begin speaking their own local tongues and Latin itself is relegated to the scholarly realm, which we now refer to as Renaissance Latin. This, in turn, morphed into so-called Contemporary Latin (an odd term, since no-one writes scholarly papers in Latin anymore). And that’s more or less where Latin stands today……………….

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Christians were people of a Book. With one or two exceptions, no religion in the ancient world concentrated so much on a sacred text in its thinking, liturgy, and spirituality like Christianity and Judaism. Of course, this text was the Bible. This commitment to the Bible, and the eagerness of Christians to share its message with all nations, would be a leading factor in Latin’s continued survival.

Jerome was a Church Father who spoke Latin, Greek, and Hebrew. In the late-4th century — a mere century before Rome’s collapse — he was commissioned by Pope Damasus to translate the Bible into Latin. For the next two decades, this was his biggest project. Despite popular opinion, Jerome’s translation was not the first Latin Bible. There were many Old Latin Bibles in circulation. Jerome’s job was to produce a corrected standard edition. His translation would not catch on at first, but it grew in authority over time. He would not complete the project, but others after him would continue his work. The eventual result would be the Vulgate Bible………………………

By the seventeenth century, however, the attempts by humanists to restore classical Latin became overshadowed by the rise of the vernacular languages and the discoveries of the scientific revolution. Many European vernacular languages, such as French, English, and Italian, were highly developed and had become classical languages in their own right by this time. Each could boast of their own great writers, such as Dante (1265–1321) and Shakespeare (1564–1616). Furthermore, people still had to come up with new words to describe the new discoveries in science and technology that surpassed those of the Romans. Although scholars of the scientific revolution were trained in classical Latin, the number of academic works written in the vernacular began to increase rapidly. For example, Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) published some of his scientific results in Italian, Isaac Newton (1642–1727) in English, and Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz (1646–1716) in French. It took a long time before Latin was altogether replaced by the vernacular languages. In the early modern period, the choice of Latin still offered a writer several advantages. First, a work in Latin reached a broader audience since Latin was an international language. Second, Latin offered a more stable and standardized medium, while the vernacular languages were in a state of flux and changing rapidly. As society changed, the need for knowing Latin declined, and by the nineteenth century the vernacular languages had all but taken over.

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Apart from the issue of usurped authority or not, the real problems with papal restrictions concerning vernacular translations of the Holy Scriptures, are regarding the defense of and or attack upon personal freedoms and liberty. The Roman Churches Index of Forbidden Books was in and of itself, just that. Instructions regarding what its own adherents could read or not. It was the Roman Churches amalgamation with the state, and the legislative state’s enforcement of her desires, that posed and effected the real threat. And a real threat upon the personal liberties and lives of all, she most certainly was, and continues to be. To this very day, she seeks and establishes accords with every and any nations she can. Any and all governments which will accept and enforce her teachings upon their citizens, are just another arm of her usurped power over individual consciences. It was these laws enforced by the state, which destroyed liberty, and established tyrrany. Which laws the church of Rome first inspired and then supported. The following testimony sums up the truth well, concerning the church of Rome’s real effect upon societies regarding the Holy Scriptures.

It is idle for Rome to say, “I gave you the Bible, and therefore you must believe in me before you can believe in it.” The facts we have already narrated conclusively dispose of this claim. Rome did not give us the Bible — she did all in her power to keep it from us; she retained it under the seal of a dead language; and when others broke that seal, and threw open its pages to all, she stood over the book, and, unsheathing her fiery sword, would permit none to read the message of life, save at the peril of eternal anathema.

We owe the Bible — that is, the transmission of it — to those persecuted communities which we have so rapidly passed in review. They received it from the primitive Church, and carried it down to us. They translated it into the mother tongues of the nations. They colported it over Christendom, singing it in their lays as troubadours, preaching it in their sermons as missionaries, and living it out as Christians. They fought the battle of the Word of God against tradition, which sought to bury it. They sealed their testimony for it at the stake. But for them, so far as human agency is concerned, the Bible would, ere this day, have disappeared from the world. Their care to keep this torch burning is one of the marks which indubitably certify them as forming part of that one true Catholic Church, which God called into existence at first by His word, and which, by the same instrumentality, He has, in the conversion of souls, perpetuated from age to age. (THE HISTORY OF PROTESTANTISM BY THE REV. J. A. WYLIE, LL.D., BOOK 1 CHAP. 12, Page 94)

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While a very different form of Catholicism of the 4th century may be credited with giving us the Latin Vulgate, it most certainly did not give us the bible. A though God had not up until then, nor would not have seen to it through other means. Nevertheless, pastime progressed the Roman Church declared a monopoly upon biblical translations, which resulted in countless people not having the scriptures in their own language for many centuries. Dependent therefore upon Roman Catholicism for truth as it were, which was the real point of doing so. Ungodly control over the masses it determined to lord over.

A more thorough and specific examination of the laws enforcing the church of Rome’s wishes, will be forthcoming, not to mention specifically recorded punishments regarding the same. This is not for the purpose of trashing Catholics as many will no doubt claim, but for the sake of historical accuracy. In the hopes of preventing any such future abuses upon humanity in the supposed name and or authority of our blessed Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. For it is also well and right for all to remember, that these events took place within and or upon predominantly Roman Catholic peoples. From among whom the greater part of all those excommunicated and finally declared to be Protestants, arose. Roman Catholics both desiring to place the scriptures in the hands of the majorities in their vernacular, and those demanding their individual right to have and read such, which they believed the present leadership of their own faith was denying them.

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So where is it stated in The Bible that satan only works against Christ sheep.

Why does satan need to blind an unbeliever, as Calvinist say they are dead to began with.

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Because Christ’s sheep carry out Christ’s work. Christ is the winner of the war, except satan doesn’t seem to know or accept it. Besides, who else is he going to do battle with?

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BelieveItOarKnot said:

Can we at least presume God has a sound mind? So when you quote "all things are possible with God" does that then mean God can be a 3 foot tall green Martian?

God didn't make anyone but Himself sinless

The position of all mankind is a position of being sinners -> because God Himself bound us ALL to our enemy in the flesh, the spirit of disobedience, the tempter. Mark 4:15, Romans 11:32, Eph. 2:2, Romans 3:9 etc

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I’ll quote you, asking the same question: Can we at least presume God has a sound mind? God is goodness itself and everything He creates is good as per Genesis 1. If God created man to sin then God would be the worst of sinners Himself, at least more blameworthy than any of His creation. Sin is possible only due to the abuse of another good, that of free will, given to certain rational created beings. God allows that evil as He allows that freedom, for a time, for His purposes, ultimately to bring about an even greater good in the end. If God cannot create a being who is free from moral evil then He’s a limited God, indeed, and the act of creating beings with free will would be evil itself.

United with God now, the source of all goodness, yes, all things are possible, including living as a child of His, made in His image and likeness, should live.

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NxNW said:

In other words, doctors delayed treatment because of protesters? You keep claiming that, but nobody with half a brain believes that.

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Actually I haven’t claimed that at all. Except in your own mind.

A2SG said:

The article I posted quoted acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, no mind reading necessary.

Though, I can't help but notice you did not provide documentation for your version of events. Will that be forthcoming?


The Politifact article you quoted said: "[Former House sergeant-at-arms Paul] Irving told [Capitol Police Chief Steven] Sund ahead of the riot that he did not want National Guard troops at the Capitol on Jan. 6 because of bad "optics," the Washington Post and the New York Times reported."

Two different people, neither of them Nancy Pelosi, made two different statements, so yeah, we can have it both ways.

In the end, whether or not Trump actually did offer to call in the National Guard depends on whether or not you believe Donald Trump, a man convicted of fraud on multiple occasions, including 34 felony convictions.

-- A2SG, you can do your own math here....

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1. You must have missed that part of the Politifact fact check that says the sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the house. He is the go-between for the Speaker and the Capitol Police. I highly doubt that the second in command made that decision himself.

2. Steven Sund, chief of the Capitol Police at the time, requested for National Guard troops several times, before they were actually asked for by Pelosi and the sergeant-at-arms.

3. President Trump did request National Guard troops for Jan. 6 in the days leading up to that.

trophy33 said:

While it is daytime, we must do the works of Him who sent Me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
J 9:4-5

When Jesus left, He sent the Holy Spirit. And there is church and a lot of people are doing good works. What does it mean that "night is coming, when no one can work"?

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It does appear to be speaking about the brief window of time of His earthly ministry. The context--the healing of the blind man--suggests to me that the window of what Jesus is doing in His earthly ministry is short.

In the Gospel of Matthew Jesus will identify His Church (a la His disciples) as "the light of the world"; and returning back to the Gospel of John, as you note, the Holy Spirit will be sent and He will empower the Church to do the works of God and preach the word, etc.

Yet there is a distinction, between the Lord's earthly ministry, and the ongoing ministry of the Church.

Jesus at times speaks of how He will no longer be with them/us, and simultaneously speaks of how He will always be present and with them/us.

Ultimately I think Jesus is saying, "What needs to be done needs to be done right now, while I am here doing these things".

-CryptoLutheran

FutureAndAHope said:

The idea (above) of God fixing destinies was not believed for the first 400 years of recorded Christian history. Those who came directly after the Apostles believed our actions determine if we are saved. The Earliest Church Leaders believed in Free Will theology. The idea that we work in Synergy with God, that our actions, either good or evil, determine if we are saved. Making statements like.

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I am completely against Calvinism, but this is a sad statement about the people who came directly after the Apostles. That is, if they did believe that actions determined if people are saved and that our actions either good or bad determine if we are saved.

No wonder Calvinism and election came about, one incorrect theology going against another incorrect works based theology of good and evil being the determiner of a person eternal life salvation.

Michie said:

The clerical sexual abuse crisis in the Cathollic Church has demonstrated how clever predators are in covering up their predatory behavior just like homosexual clergy are good at covering up their sexual orientation and misconduct. Two young priests who lived with Monsignor Francis B. McCaa, whom the Pennsylvania Grand Jury identified as a sexual “monster,” had no idea that their supervisory pastor was sexually abusing boys in their Ebensburg parish. Likewise, when I served with Father Robert Kelly for three years and Father Martin Cingle for two years, both the pastor and I had no idea that they were abusing teenage boys in our State College parish. One reason this happens is that we often assume that people with whom we live and work are very much like ourselves. Consequently, priests and parishioners who would never even think of harming a child often think other coworkers feel and act the same way,

Because most Catholics are heterosexuals, they have a difficult time believing studies that show how over 80 percent of American-born bishops and priests today are homosexuals. Likewise, because most Catholic couples are faithful in marriage, they have a hard time believing studies that show how, at any given moment in time, no more than half of all priests are leading celibate lives. If it were not for my years of supervisory and confessional experience, I too might question these findings. Consequently, I am not surprised if a devout Catholic might say to me, “You don’t know what you’re talking about.” However, when asked about the validity of studies involving the high celibacy failure rate, Cardinal Jose Sanchez, a former Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy responsible for overseeing matters regarding priests and deacons, responded, “I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of those figures.”

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DOES THE SEXUAL ORIENTATION OF THE POPE AND BISHOPS MATTER?

The clerical sexual abuse crisis in the Cathollic Church has demonstrated how clever predators are in covering up their predatory behavior just like homosexual clergy are good at covering up their sexual orientation and misconduct.

johneighteenthirtyseven.substack.com

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Dear Michie, my post above was truly not intended to ignore or hi-jack the OP, but to address the symptom-problem with the larger problem. A broader still address to that larger problem is recently addressed by Bp. Strickland here:

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RileyG said:

Do you have any specific denominations in mind?

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Not really.