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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Baloney.

So if I put some botulinum toxins in all my friends food, and eat some myself, you think that's not a sin? Yeah..! It is..!
You poisoning your friends without their knowledge and consent = sin.

I agree.

How is that relevant?


How do we know that that boatload of folk actually are jihadists? How do we know they have a bunch of bombs? How do we know they are heading towards America? It would help to know their names to be sure that they are what you're claiming they are.
Doesn't start to seem like some folks only need to FEEL justified without ever having to BE justified.



I wasn't really following this story that closely. What evidence has been made public to justify this action? Is it a boat registration thing? Did they see it get loaded up with drugs?
Do they have named? What drug?
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Is it not exactly as God decreed it to be? Did man overpower Him somehow and ruin the world?

I see you dodged my basic question.
You complain when God doesn’t give us a choice and then you complain when He does. Which is it? Was God right to give us a choice or was He wrong?
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Question for my Catholic brothers and sisters

Amen. I think its why the Orthodox Church is now growing faster than even the Pentecostals; we have parishes seeing annual membership increases of 18%. We now have a clergy shortage due to all of the converts combined with the high birth rate among most Orthodox populations except for the Greeks (the birth rate among the Oriental Orthodox by the way is … beautiful).
Glory to God in all things!
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This is the scariest verse in the bible for believers

Interesting story.

Righteousness motivated by fear is self righteousness, the opposite to the righteousness of living by faith.

The bible does not say that being afraid of God results in confidence on the day of judgment.

At the mountain with Moses the people said that they didn't want to be afraid anymore, and God says "this is good" and then talked about Jesus who they would need to listen to.

Since fear is a carnal reaction to God, and the flesh is at animosity towards all God related things ... being fearful is not a reasonable goal.
I think there’s a mix-up here between terror (which Christ delivers us from) and fear as reverence (which Scripture repeatedly commends).

You’re right that righteousness isn’t meant to come from a slavish, cowering fear, that would indeed be self-righteousness. But the Bible is clear that godly fear is not carnal. It’s spiritual, and it’s commanded:
- “The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever” (Psalm 19:9).
- “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you” (Philippians 2:12-13).
- “Since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire” (Hebrews 12:28-29).
Notice that these verses are addressed to believers already saved by grace, not to unbelievers at Sinai. The difference is that the fear Israel felt at Sinai was terror without mediation. But in Christ, our fear is transformed into reverence because He is both Saviour and Judge.

God Himself said in Deuteronomy 5:29: “Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!” That shows fear of the Lord is a good and ongoing thing, not something to be discarded.
So, I’d say this: fear of God isn’t about cowering in terror; it’s about living with holy awe, reverence, and seriousness before Him. Love gives us confidence, but fear keeps us from taking God lightly. And both work together in shaping our walk with Him.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

You do know that the state of the world we live in is man’s fault, right?
Is it not exactly as God decreed it to be? Did man overpower Him somehow and ruin the world?
The only way he can prevent atrocities would have been to take away any choices from Adam and THEN he/us would really be puppets.
I see you dodged my basic question.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

So he actively prevents people from coming to Christ, but doesn't prevent atrocities?
You do know that the state of the world we live in is man’s fault, right? The only way he can prevent atrocities would have been to take away any choices from Adam and THEN he/us would really be puppets.
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Donald Trump ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million, will appeal verdict

Appeals court upholds $83 million judgment against Trump for defaming E. Jean Carroll

"Trump has failed to identify any grounds that would warrant reconsidering our prior holding on presidential immunity. We also conclude that the district court did not err in any of the challenged rulings and that the jury's damages awards are fair and reasonable," the opinion said.
Then he was wrong and should pay. perhaps he could use some of the funds that major media has had to pay him....
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

@A New Dawn



Yes in that context of Rom 11 Mercy is equivalent to salvation, its actually regeneration as in Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Thats when an elect person in unbelief will be able to believe through the saving mercy of the Holy Ghost.
Mercy isn't equivalent to salvation. Mercy and grace are the ways God treats us. Mercy just means that God chose not to punish you for your sins when he graciously turned our hearts to Himself and saved you. There are lots of ways mercy is shown to the just and the unjust. For example the way Jesus responded to and treated the woman caught in adultery at the well was merciful, or how the father in the parable of the prodigal son forgave his son was merciful.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

I don’t know what to think about this action but there appears to be a wide link to Middle Eastern terrorism and the Venezuelan cartels.


Back in the 80s, America traded guns for drugs (thanks, Ollie!) for the Iran-Contra wars. Perhaps America is directly responsible for the creation of the Salvadorian gangs and increased drug use in the US.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Certainly you remember that it's not what goes INTO our body that is a sin but it is what comes OUT.

You could certainly argue they are unhealthy and bad for us....but "evil" ain't it.
Baloney.

So if I put some botulinum toxins in all my friends food, and eat some myself, you think that's not a sin? Yeah..! It is..!
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Do they need to? Let's say a boat load of jihadists were coming with a bunch of bombs to blow up Americans and we caught them on the high seas, do you think we have to know their names before blowing them up?
How do we know that that boatload of folk actually are jihadists? How do we know they have a bunch of bombs? How do we know they are heading towards America? It would help to know their names to be sure that they are what you're claiming they are.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Nobody said He meticulously controls every detail. You are free to make lots of decisions for yourself EXCEPT on the matter of salvation. He COULD meticulously control everything but He doesn’t.
So he actively prevents people from coming to Christ, but doesn't prevent atrocities?
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Being "in charge" is a world away from meticulously controlling every detail.
Nobody said He meticulously controls every detail. You are free to make lots of decisions for yourself EXCEPT on the matter of salvation. He COULD meticulously control everything but He doesn’t.
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Is belief/non-belief a morally culpable state?

Did you ask them HOW Jesus, who submitted to torture and death, and forgave his crucifiers because they know not what they do, can possibly represent a tyrant image of God? Of course, I know God reveals His son, but it could be you or I who plants or waters.
Yeah, pointed all that out to him; his "beef" was that he couldn't get out of his head that Christ did everything he did just so people would praise him. And because of God's "selfish need for praise"; the guy would not heed anything anyone said. And when I told him he was wrong about his assertion of God's motives; he admitted that he "possibly could be misunderstanding this" and then when I told him. "Well, then repent." He accused me of bullying him.

:doh:
Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my problem.
The issue between him and "the Eternal" is above my pay grade.
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