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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

Maybe you should send your calculations to NASA instead of responding with trite quotes from other people. See what they say on the matter. That would prove any one else wrong and you right for sure.
What do NASA know about anything?? They simply squint through slightly bigger telescopes than you, but stll get the maths wrong, confusing distance by saying "distance and / or speed is time only". Prats. So you bow humbly down low and worship NASA prats:bow:
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The Ice walls are much further in & why don't they fly over Antarctica ?

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"[T]his may be interpreted allegorically"

While this is absolutely true, it has also served as a root of division and heresy, as it still does.
Improper use doesn't discredit having value when used appropriately. And sticking to more literalist hermeneutics certainly hasn't done much to prevent division, how many factions have spawned from the notion that the Scriptures are perspicuous?
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"[T]his may be interpreted allegorically"

This reminds me of a friend who related to me a very long sermon he heard which consisted entirely of an exposition of the hidden meanings of the underwear worn by the Old Testament priests.
Well, you're likely being silly, but in reality I do have a book on the high priestly garments. The underwear, however, is not featured prominently. ;)

You might be amazed at how God's mind operates and reveals things to those who desperately want an intimate relationship with Him. There are, I think, hidden things in the Scriptures that "kings" find out.

Proverbs 25.2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.

Maureen Gaglardi, a late minister and teacher of the Gospel, wrote a series "The Path of the Just" on the Tabernacle and on the High Priestly Garments. In those books she calculated arrangements and measurements and equated them to periods of time in the history of the Church. It is truly quite amazing how she did this.

Of course, these things are not predictive prophecies, but confirmation of what God has done with careful anticipation and programming.
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Why do people hate ICE...

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The Full Spectrum of Christian Belief on Origins - where are you?

Does anyone have any input on how the pursuit of unprovable factual truths has helped you grow your faith? The reason I ask is I do have an intense curiosity about what really happened. What did the life of Adam and Eve really look like. But the more I try to focus on that curiosity, I end up with more questions than answers and I don't end up any closer to God.
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"[T]his may be interpreted allegorically"

The Jews had a multifaceted hermeneutic similar to the fourfold approach. For them, the levels were the peshat, remez, darash, and sod. Greeks also understood holy texts to have multiple facets of meaning as well, so allegorical readings would very much have been on the table.
While this is absolutely true, it has also served as a root of division and heresy, as it still does.
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Trump knocking down historic East Wing to build Ballroom - is this LEGAL?

I saw a diary on dkos that mentioned the dimensions dont add up.


Supposedly though they are also doing work on the bunkers below and building guest suites.


There has been little public information released about the layout or design of the addition, which would be the largest ever, with a planned size almost double the footprint of the 55,000-square-foot main section of the White House. . . .

The East Wing will be replaced by the ballroom, offices for the first lady and her staff, and new “guest suites” for the “President’s White House Guests,” according to a project description on the résumé of lead architect James McCrery II. The White House would not confirm whether the new guest suites and offices were included in the 90,000-square foot estimate.



Dude is building a party pad and flop house. It's like when a guy likes to party but hates how big his tab is, so he opens a restaurant and bar with the hopes the paying guests will offset the open bar he leaves for his friends who like to drop the phrase "I know the owner" to get the VIP treatment.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

Its faith we enter into His rest, which He gives us from our disobedience and sin if we have not hardened our hearts.
That’s the thing those in Christ enter into His rest by faith BECAUSE they don’t have a hardened heart. So, yes, you have it backwards.
It’s not backwards. If our heart is harden to sin unbelief and rebellion, we do not hear His voice calling us. Heb3:7-19 Heb4:7 What the passage is about.

By faith we obey Him, not disobey. Luke6:46
Exactly. By faith we enter Christ rest since the Sabbath is of the law and the law is not of faith (Gal. 3:12).
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Young earth vs Old earth?

If you choose to be a Biblical literalist and insist that the only way to understand Genesis is as literal history, that's fine. But that's based on faith, not on what evidence we have available. The issue comes when you try to defend your position as a scientific hypothesis when it isn't and push pseudoscience and misinformation, it's an article of faith that not all believers subscribe to not a scientific hypothesis.
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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

There is the huge “Saving Faith” of: “Faith that Jesus is the Christ”, but there are other lesser “faiths”, “believes” and “trusts”.

We can trust the chair we are sitting in to hold us up or the pilot of the plane we are in.

People can have a faith/trust/believe in a stone “god”, so there is a lesser instinctive type of faith that humans have the free will to control and direct.

Trust/faith/believe that Jesus is the Messiah requires a gift from God (not instinctive), so, what allows or causes us to obtain such a gift?

This gets us into a lengthy exploration of Spiritual transactions, because things like Godly type Love, Forgiveness of sin, atonement and redemption are not just one-sided but require actions from both parties.

God is doing His part perfectly, so He Loves, forgives and provides redemption for everyone, but people continue to refuse God’s Love, forgiveness and redemption as pure undeserved charity to the point they will never of their own free will accept God’s Love and forgiveness, so they go to hell, since they would not be happy in a place of only Godly type Love.

It takes very little “faith/trust/believe” to overcome your false pride and accept God’s Love, to humbly accept pure undeserved charity as charity, when you desperately (selfishly) need charity, takes very little faith, but people naturally do not like to humble themselves to the point of accepting sacrificial charity.

Look again at the Prodigal Son story, what did the son do to be rewarded by his father?

Did the son believe his father and older brother would celebrate his return?

Was the son selfishly desiring something he totally did not deserve?

How great was the son’s faith in the father compared to his fear of starving to death in the pigsty?
Thanks for your thoughts, but I still do not see any interaction with the argument of the OP. This thread concerns a grammatical point about 1 John 5:1.

You describe a "lesser faith" versus "saving faith," but can you show from the grammar or context of 1 John 5:1 that it supports such a distinction?

My point concerns the present participle ὁ πιστεύων and the perfect γεγέννηται. The one who is presently believing has already been born of God. That's what the grammar of the text says. Do you object to this?
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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true the other is to refuse to believe what is true." Søren Kierkegaara

Maybe you should send your calculations to NASA instead of responding with trite quotes from other people. See what they say on the matter. That would prove any one else wrong and you right for sure.
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Pray that Jesus Christ calms the Hurricane Melissa that is heading towards the Caribbean to the point where it becomes a mere gentle breeze:

Pray that Jesus Christ calms the Hurricane Melissa that is heading towards the Caribbean to the point where it becomes a mere gentle breeze:

Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

Speed/distance is 1/time. It can always be written in inverse seconds (or years, or fortnights).

Nope. "oneMpc x C" is distance * speed. Ho is speed divided by distance, so....

1 Mpc * c / Ho = [distance * speed ]/ [speed/distance] = distance * distance = area
"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true the other is to refuse to believe what is true." Søren Kierkegaara
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Whether they are military and scientific bases, or community centres where people go to meet together, makes no difference. None of them report having to climb up and over an immense wall of ice.

The Ice walls are much further in & why don't they fly over Antarctica ?

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WHAT DOES PAUL. SAID OF Eph 1 : 4. !!

Election and predestination are often taken by Calvinists to mean that every individual is selected by God to be saved.

I consider that what was predestined was not individuals but the opportunity to enter into a state where anyone who enters could be called elect.

This is made confusing because the word "elect" can also be applied to those of Israel whose whole nation was chosen.
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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

I don’t have to. I gave you where they are located in the Bible so you could find them.
Are you saying that they are NOT in the Bible?
As I am sure you know, this is a typical means of evasion. All one actually needs to do is to select one commandment out of the Ten and discuss it. It is then that one discovers that, in reality, these legalists are hypocrites in their statements concerning keeping God's commandments.

In fact, one hardly need even go beyond the Ten to discover their hypocrisy. For example, the commandment, "Thou shalt not murder" is taken in its very narrowest sense, even excluding the much broader interpretation of it by Jesus Christ.
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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

That's the mistake all make. Don't forget volume or area has a single dimention of distance, which in the Ho case is light years. What area or volume did the excaped gas leak out to? You can legitimately say it spread out to 2 miles distance. You CANNOT legitimately say it spread out to 2 hours. That would be nonsense. So you are wrong, are you not???
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So.....did your insurance premium go up?

Why would you force someone to discuss their healthcare coverage and why would they comply?

~bella
We're in such a discussion right now.

It happens, usually when someone starts an anti-"Obamacare" rant and expects everyone to agree.
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Melissa could become major hurricane, may impact the US

This may end up being the most powerful storm to hit the island of Jamaica in recorded history.

CATASTROPHIC AND LIFE-THREATENING WINDS, FLOODING, AND STORM SURGE EXPECTED ON JAMAICA TONIGHT AND EARLY TUESDAY

11:00 AM EDT Mon Oct 27
Location: 16.4°N 78.2°W
Moving: W at 3 mph
Min pressure: 908 mb
Max sustained: 165 mph


Jamaica: Do not venture out of your safe shelter. Catastrophic and life-threatening flash flooding and numerous landslides are likely today through Tuesday. Catastrophic winds in the eyewall have the potential to cause total structural failure especially in higher elevation areas tonight and early Tuesday. This will result in extensive infrastructural damage, long-lasting power and communication outages, and isolated communities. Life-threatening storm surge and damaging waves are expected along the southern coast through Tuesday.

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When does blindness occur?

Romans is a book that is often the topic of fierce debate, when it comes to the theological topic of Predestination, and free will. Personally, I believe that God has given man free will, that all people will be given a chance of life, but their choices determine whether they will be saved.

One of the key topics of this debate is the fact that God brings blindness to the sinner. If a person believes in Predestination, they will say, “A portion of the world was always destined, or planned, to be blind from the beginning”. That, “God only rescues a selected portion of creation, not based on man’s deeds, but God’s choice”.
Your opening comments already rest on a few assumptions that should be examined before the discussion can move forward:

1. You equate predestination with fatalism ("a portion of the world was always destined to be blind from the beginning"). Can you point to a single Reformed expositor or confessional statement that defines it that way? It's imperative that we accurately represent the views of others.

2. You suggest that divine election negates human choice. Again, can you point to a Reformed statement or confession that ever frames God's sovereignty and human responsibility as opposites to be reconciled? Does the Reformed perspective not maintain that divine sovereignty and human responsibility operate compatibly (cf. WCF 3.1, 9.1) as exemplified in passages like Gen. 50:20 and Acts 2:23?

3. You imply that predestination denies that "all will be given a chance at life." Can you show where any Reformed confession denies the universal proclamation of the gospel or the genuine offer of salvation to all nations (cf. WCF 7.3, 10.2)? The question in Reformed theology is not whether the offer is sincere, but whether its acceptance rests ultimately on sovereign grace or autonomous will.

I would like to show from Romans 1 that it makes more sense to believe spiritual blindness comes as “a result of disobedience”...
Your point here is well taken; Paul certainly shows that spiritual darkness intensifies through persistent rejection of revealed truth. But the passage is describing not the initial cause of blindness, but its judicial reinforcement. Paul's argument in Romans 1-3 unfolds progressively. In chapter 1, he is explaining how God's wrath is received (v. 18): namely, by "giving them over" (vv. 24, 26, 28). That phrase, παρέδωκεν ὁ θεός, is not the language of causation of first sin, but of judicial handing over to the consequences of sin already present.

So yes, Romans 1 teaches that blindness results from sin. But it does not follow that sinners begin in a neutral, sighted state and then blind themselves by choice. Romans 3:10-12 clarifies that "none seeks for God," and Romans 8:7-8 says the natural mind "does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot." The blindness of Romans 1:21 is therefore the outworking of a depraved state, not its origin.

If I may ask:

  • Do you take Paul to mean that unregenerate humanity ever possesses a morally neutral capacity to "retain God in their knowledge" apart from grace (cf. Rom. 1:28)?
  • If blindness only follows repeated sin, how would you interpret Eph. 4:18, where ignorance is "due to the hardness of their heart" -- that is, intrinsic, not acquired?

We see that also in:

2Th 2:10-12 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.​

God sends strong delusion to those who have “pleasure in unrighteousness”. So a debased mind is not the default, but rather what we are given over to if we delight in sin.
Again, seeing this text as disproof of divine sovereignty over reprobation confuses the judicial result of sin with its original cause. The position you're opposing does not teach that God creates blindness or moral corruption ex nihilo. Rather, He righteously hands sinners over to the blindness they have already chosen in Adam and continue to embrace.

Paul's point in this text is judicial, not causal. Those who "did not receive the love of the truth" are therefore given "a strong delusion" (ἐνέργειαν πλάνης). That delusion is not the origin of their depravity; it is the divine confirmation of it. Their refusal to love the truth is the immediate cause of judgment; their fallen nature (Rom. 8:7-8) is the ultimate cause.

If you're objecting to Reformed theology, then it is necessary that you recognize the distinctions Reformed theology makes:
  • Moral inability is the state of fallen humanity inherited from Adam (Rom. 5:12-19; Eph. 2:1-3). It's the cause of blindness.
  • Judicial hardening is God's righteous act of giving sinners over to their chosen darkness (Rom. 1:24, 26, 28). It's the result of persistent rebellion.
So, yes... blindness results from sin, but that does not mean it originates from a morally neutral will. The sinner sins because he is blind (John 3:19-20), and God's judgment in hardening only seals what the fallen heart already desires.

The earliest Church Leaders also taught that man “as it were, blind themselves”

4. ... but for the despisers and mockers who avoid and turn themselves away from this light, and who do, as it were, blind themselves, He has prepared darkness suitable to persons who oppose the light, and He has inflicted an appropriate punishment upon those who try to avoid being subject to Him. Submission to God is eternal rest, so that they who shun the light have a place worthy of their flight; and those who fly from eternal rest, have a habitation in accordance with their fleeing. Now, since all good things are with God, they who by their own determination fly from God, do defraud themselves of all good things; and having been [thus] defrauded of all good things with respect to God, they shall consequently fall under the just judgment of God. (Irenaeus 120-202, Against Heresies - Book 4 Ch 39 -End)
Appealing to "the earliest Church leaders" as a unified interpretive block is historically careless. The patristic writers were not a monolith, nor were they always systematic or mutually consistent. The second century was marked by vigorous theological development. Irenaeus, Justin, Tertullian, and Clement differ on numerous points, including the nature of grace and freedom. So to claim that "the earliest Church leaders taught X" is, at best, an overstatement.

As for the quotation itself, Irenaeus is addressing the moral culpability of those who reject divine revelation, not the metaphysical origin of human blindness. He's contrasting the willing rejection of the light with its judicial consequence ("He has prepared darkness..."). Nothing in this passage denies man's fallen inability apart from grace; it simply underscores that the judgment is just because man's rebellion is voluntary.

Reformed theology fully agrees. Sinners "blind themselves" in the sense that they sin willingly, not by external coercion. The question is not whether men choose darkness (the certainly do), but whether, apart from regenerating grace, they could ever do otherwise. Irenaeus' moral appeal does not settle that question. The grammar of Romans 8 and John 6 does.

Note: blindness in this post is not referring to Spiritual Ignorance, but rather a deep blindness that prevents salvation from occurring. We are all born with Spiritual Ignorance, blindness in this post refers to that which prevents salvation.
This clarification actually makes your position more problematic, not less, as the distinction you're raising here actually reinforces, rather than refutes, the Reformed understanding. Let me explain.

First, Scripture does not present humanity as merely "spiritually ignorant." Paul is explicit that the unregenerate mind is not just uninformed but hostile to God:

"For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." (Rom. 8:7-8)​

That word "cannot" (οὐ δύναται) indicates inability, not mere ignorance. Likewise, 1 Cor. 2:14:

"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."​

Note again: is not able (οὐ δύναται) to understand them. That's not ignorance; it's incapacity. This is not the blindness of one who lacks data, but of one who rejects light because of moral corruption. So to say all are born "ignorant" is already too weak; Scripture calls it spiritual death (Eph. 2:1-3), not partial blindness.

Second, the "deeper blindness" you describe (the one that "prevents salvation") is precisely what Reformed theology categorizes as judicial hardening. It is God's righteous act of giving a sinner over to his own chosen darkness. It's not that some neutral people become blind; it's that already-blind rebels are further confirmed in blindness as a consequence of rejecting truth. So, whether unintentionally or not, you're misrepresenting the position you oppose by assuming that it conflates a distinction it explicitly maintains -- one that you yourself later acknowledge, though without recognizing that your opponent does as well.

In short, you've described two stages of blindness, but the first stage (spiritual death) is itself morally culpable and already prevents salvation apart from grace. The second stage (judicial blindness) is God's righteous sealing of that condition. Neither concept contradicts the position you are arguing against; they presuppose it.
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If you do not have a problem with the stop, what are you wining and complaining about this time?
I'm not whining and complaining about anything; all I'm saying is if this had occurred during the Obama administration, many on the right would have been furious, which is true.
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Do Your Actions Speaks Louder then your knowledge?

It does make the distinction of two different rests not one, so we can agree on this. The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke23:56. Christ rest is from rebellion and sin Mat11:28 Psa38:3 why those who enter into Christs rest ALSO means they are doing something in addition and it tells us verbatim what that is, they ALSO cease from their works as God did Heb4:10 on the seventh day Heb4:4 Exo20:11 Gen 2:1-3.
You have it backwards. The reason why humanity needed a savior was because of disobedience and sin. Those that enter Jesus rest enter because of obedience by having faith.

“For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Therefore let’s make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same example of disobedience.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4‬:‭10‬-‭11‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

“That rest” is Jesus rest NOT the sabbath rest. The contrast between the two proves this clearly.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

So already you are making unsupported claims. If we are going to play those games then my experts say your experts are wrong lol. Whose opinion should we listen to. Someone who has already been shown to make false claims and provide no evidence. Or the well evidenced support for the qualifications of those involved in the vase scan projects.
So now you are accusing us of making false claims without evidence? You really are an arrogant little twit.
Ok so Dunn and King have had over 50 years working in the industries. Flinders Petrie actually discovered and pioneered measuring and describing them. Yousef Awyan and his family have been making vases at the foot of the pyramids for generations.

Which spectualtions and claims. I am not sure what you mean. You do know spectulations don't usually have the evidence. You have to find the evidence to support the spectulation.
It's easier the way you do it--just ignore the evidence that doesn't support your speculation.
But thats different to the science of determining what the signatures tell us about possible tools or methods used.
Why bother with science when you've already decided what kind of tools were used?
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