• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
23,209
19,363
USA
✟1,129,005.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
So this (presumably AI summary?) admits "is not attributed to a specific work or speech" and "Voltaire's exact writings may not pinpoint a specific document for this quote".

In other words, your own source is saying that it doesn't seem to be an actual quote of Voltaire. Are you therefore admitting that the quote you offered is a false one?

I’ve read some of his pieces. Let me check my account. I usually save meaningful quotes. I don’t recall the statement off the top of my head. I’ll post what I find.

~bella
 
Upvote 0

NxNW

Well-Known Member
Nov 30, 2019
7,573
5,185
NW
✟276,204.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private

UBS, one of the​


0:37
biggest banks in the world, just

0:39
increased the odds of recession next

0:41
year for the US to 93%.


He suggests putting a stash of cash in a savings account. That sounds very risky should the banks fail.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a recession under Trump, since that seems to be a common trait of Republican administrations. But if banks fail across the board, I doubt having some pretty metal in your safe is going to be super helpful.

Serious question, though: Do you advocate holding the actual physical metal, and if so, how do you store it? Or do you feel holding Gold mutual funds is sufficient?
 
Upvote 0

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
23,209
19,363
USA
✟1,129,005.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
I didn’t see the quote @HARK! cited and the venue is devoted to books. This may be a situation of wrong attribution much like we’ve seen with Anais Nin. “We don’t see things as they are we see them as we are“ was uttered by another. But if I stumble upon it I‘ll update my post.

~bella
 
Upvote 0

HARK!

שמע
Christian Forums Staff
Supervisor
Site Supporter
Oct 29, 2017
65,601
10,795
US
✟1,591,246.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Private
So this (presumably AI summary?) admits "is not attributed to a specific work or speech" and "Voltaire's exact writings may not pinpoint a specific document for this quote".
Did you miss this part?:

1761625047947.png
 
Upvote 0

HARK!

שמע
Christian Forums Staff
Supervisor
Site Supporter
Oct 29, 2017
65,601
10,795
US
✟1,591,246.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Private
Serious question, though: Do you advocate holding the actual physical metal, and if so, how do you store it?

I used to hold it in my hand 24/7, on my ring finger. Yes, I would even sleep with it in my hand. Now I have it tucked away.

Or do you feel holding Gold mutual funds is sufficient?

Is there any counterparty risk in holding mutual funds?
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

HARK!

שמע
Christian Forums Staff
Supervisor
Site Supporter
Oct 29, 2017
65,601
10,795
US
✟1,591,246.00
Country
United States
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Private
if banks fail across the board, I doubt having some pretty metal in your safe is going to be super helpful.
Monetary metals aren't particularly useful, in the face of an economic collapse; when people are competing for food. Lead is more useful during those periods, for hunting game, or defending oneself from cannibals.

Monetary metals serve to store wealth. In the face of a starving population, money is of little use; if no one is selling food.

However, monetary metals still serve to store one's wealth, until society rebuilds, the trucks begin running again, and food sales resume.

Zimbabwe notes are useful for cooking fires.
 
Upvote 0

bèlla

❤️
Site Supporter
Jan 16, 2019
23,209
19,363
USA
✟1,129,005.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
In Relationship
Whenever I hear things hit the fan imagery my mind cares less about scenarios but the numbers standout. No matter how much you prepare there‘s more who didn’t than who did. No amount of weaponry can hold back a throng forever. You need something greater than yourself to do so. It wouldn’t matter if you’re in the city or backwoods needs will travel.

But they’re not the only ones. It’s equally easy to relieve people of their goods and property if you have the means. It isn‘t difficult to see the merits of a black market and that’s a possibility few consider in relation to themselves. You’d better put your trust in Lord and learn how to prayer walk and call on the earth and elements. Lead and gold will only get you so far and we need to be honest with ourselves.

There’s 258.5 million adults in America. Of that number, 59.2 million are seniors. Which leaves 199.3 million adults. There’s an estimated 20 million preppers too. If you subtracted them from the whole with the good hearted and disabled the number remains large. Most christians aren’t homesteaders and we haven’t factored in the criminals.

Preparation is good but our greatest defense is the Lord. Make sure your prayer muscles are stronger than your weaponry and you can move the heavenlies.

~bella
 
Upvote 0

NxNW

Well-Known Member
Nov 30, 2019
7,573
5,185
NW
✟276,204.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
I used to hold it in my hand 24/7, on my ring finger. Yes, I would even sleep with it in my hand.
I'd think that would be a pretty small amount.
Is there any counterparty risk in holding mutual funds?
Sure, but there is also risk in having gold bars tucked away.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bèlla
Upvote 0