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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

You could read the OP and respond with Scripture and not just your opinion that you disagree with plain Scripture that it does not mean what it plainly says. Our opinions are important to us, but they do not equal God’s Word. Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat4:4 quoting OT. That’s a lot of deleting what God said about God’s Sabbath commandment to make ones doctrine work. We can choose to fight against what Jesus said to live by or cooperate with Him. Life is about choices.
You have not provided a verse that shows that people kept the Jewish sabbath prior to Moses or a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. That is all I’m asking for.
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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

Genesis 26:5

What statutes and laws are those?? This is Abraham speaking... So there are laws and commands that God has ordained from the beginning, that Moses eventually wrote down. That doesn't mean they didn't exist before hand and that doesn't mean that they weren't required to follow them either.
You tell me. Which commandments are those. The tablets of stone were not given for another 430 years. The commandments that God gave Abraham related to circumcision not to the Jewish law.
10 Commandments
Prove it.
Post Crucifixion, you had people going around and telling about what Jesus taught. Does the scripture literally have to spell it out for you on which to follow when Jesus says to keep HIS Commandments?! Where they different commandments that Jesus taught that overwrote the original 10? No, there is not.
After the crucifixion every single appearance happened on the first day. The apostles continued to go to the temple to preach to the Jews. Paul even says that to the Jew he becomes a Jew so that He might gain Jews.

“To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are under the Law;”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭9‬:‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Notice also that he also became one under the law so that he might gain those under the law. The Jewish law INCLUDED the 10 commandments.
Fulfill, not abolish.
Completed. All done. No need to redo it. The new covenant does not include the law (Gal. 3).
If you don't follow God's moral law, and I'm talking about what God gave, not what the Jews turned it into, then how do you know if you're sinning? So technically by your argument, I can lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery, not honor my father and mother, because God "fulfilled" the law in that way according to you. You hold two opposing view points.
A) Jesus talked about keeping 9/10 commandments
B) We can ignore the 10 commandments because Jesus fulfilled them.
It's one or the other, it cannot be both. Both is cognitive dissonance.
The 4th commandment was never a moral law it was a ceremonial law. The levetical priesthood managed all 613 Jewish laws including those surrounding the sabbath.
Nonsense.

Worshiping on sunday isn't against the commandment. If people don't work on saturday and go to church on sunday, you're still fine. I'm not sure why you lumped the two together. But to answer the rest of your question, if you're "living in sin" then yes, you would be in danger of not being saved. Just as living in a state of breaking any other one of God's commandments on a continual and habitual basis.
If you consider the 4th commandment as a moral commandment and required of the Christian then your argument here does not follow becsuse those who worship in Sunday would be braking the moral 4th commandment. Do you not see the futility of your argument? Look, if you want to keep the 4th commandment then go right ahead. I am not here to judge you so don’t judge me or others.

“One person values one day over another, another values every day the same. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and the one who eats, does so with regard to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and the one who does not eat, it is for the Lord that he does not eat, and he gives thanks to God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭5‬-‭6‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬
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What's on your mind?

@DragonFox91 I subscribe to this through the library via the Libby app and thought of you. It has a nostalgic vibe and wholesome content. You might enjoy it. ;-)

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Thank you for thinking of me, that makes me feel happy.
I'm sure some of it I would like. But I also see that & feel like I got saved from that lifestyle.
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Ethics of Proselytization

I think all the different denominations including new versions that believe going out and proselytizing have given a bad name to Christians lol. Its almost an inhouse joke, quick pretend your not home as theres some bible bashers coming lol.

In some ways its like sales. When you are walking by a sales display you want to avoid the sales pitch. Or the cold canvassers who ring or visit trying to get sales. It seems everyone wants to sell you something. Maybe its more a cultural thing and not just a religious thing.

Todays hyper consumerism, materialism, alternative ideas being promoted, companies and bloggers trying to get clicks and likes. Its coming at us left right and center.

I think back to the early Christian church and how I guess it was fairly new and there was a clear destinction. You knew another Christian. They often met in secrecy and had secret symbols like the 'fish' to let other Christians know. Paul would preach a destinct message that Christians and non Christians could know was different.

Its hard today to know whats going on. Theres not just religious ideas but all sorts of ideas about finding the answers to a better life. I think thats the problem. Maybe he should have just given you a card with a 'fish' symbol. Just a simple well known Christian symbol to say we are the same.

But also communication is fundemental. Its a two way communication. Someone makes a communication to the reciever. But they may not fully understand exactly what the senders actually trying to communicate.

So the reciever has to then find out from the sender. Get feedback. Each time it helps clarify exactly whats going on. Often we read into stuff that may not be there and the best way to find out is ask the sender. Or rather make another communication towards finding out.
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At U.S. ‘supermax’ prison, foreign-born Muslim with no arms files religious liberty suit

I would think that anyone put in prison for committing crimes against citizens, should have their own citizenship revoked for the duration of their incarceration, thus they have none of the civil or religious 'rights' afforded to law abiding citizens
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From laughing at to dancing with

Yeah, instead in his first term, he just let a bunch of foreign dignitaries stay at his DC hotel to curry favor and in his second term, is using his likeness to sell merch and cryptoscamps.
Didn’t do him any good as evidenced in my signature.
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An EBT Crisis?

Tik Tok is built on an algorithm that feeds off what users engage with and also rewards bad content because people engage with it whether in agreement or outrage.
Of course. That's why there may be reason for concern. Also because people may be introduced to thoughts they might not have thought of otherwise.
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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

I have provided Scripture and each turn, you use your words as if it’s equal to God‘s. This mindset cannot be reasoned with.
You have not provided a verse that shows that people kept the Jewish sabbath prior to Moses or a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment. Your mindset cant be reasoned because you can’t support your error with scripture. Is really very simple either you provide the verses, and therefore the proof, or your doctrine is just plain wrong.
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White House begins demolishing East Wing facade to build Trump’s ballroom

I don't like it when people lie.
I don't like it when people reply to a post of mine just to vent hate and anger without responding to specifics contained in the post to which they replied. Don't waste my time. Go to your safe space and do that to a stuffed teddy bear.
I understand that politicians 'avoid the truth' sometimes. And tend to bend it a little on ocassions.
As I've shown, you're bending the truth almost 180 degrees.
But Trump doesn't do that. And you know that as well as do. He treats us like morons. He lies as naturally as he breathes. He simply can't be trusted. Now if he was the guy who ran the local pub or someone in a local council position then I could care less. But he isn't, is he.
He's our duly elected president, and you should show some decorum and respect that. And who is "us"? You're Australian. Why on Earth do you care about a structure in America? Relax. Have a drink. Have a smoke. Go kiss your wife. Kiss a kangaroo. Find an Australian forum where you can complain about something actually important, like the fact that someone's lied to you and conned you into thinking that leftover brewer's yeast is fit for human consumption.

When Americans lie as you do, it's abominable. When foreigners like you do it, it's abominable and bizarre.

And you should care a lot more than youn seem to. I don't understand why you don't.
You should care a lot less. I don't understand why you don't.
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Love codified in the Ten Commandments

The Lord said to Moses. God was telling Moses what was yet to come. Is there any verses that show thst people kept the sabbath before Moses?
Genesis 26:5
"because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”
What statutes and laws are those?? This is Abraham speaking... So there are laws and commands that God has ordained from the beginning, that Moses eventually wrote down. That doesn't mean they didn't exist before hand and that doesn't mean that they weren't required to follow them either.
Which commandments? The law or the two commandments that Jesus gave the church?
10 Commandments
Jesus fulfilled (completed) the law. Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath and He is now our sabbath rest (Heb. 4). There are NO post crucifixion verses that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.
Post Crucifixion, you had people going around and telling about what Jesus taught. Does the scripture literally have to spell it out for you on which to follow when Jesus says to keep HIS Commandments?! Where they different commandments that Jesus taught that overwrote the original 10? No, there is not.

‘Because Jesus came to FIRST preach to the Jews so He went to the temple to worship on the Jewish sabbath. Also, and probably more important, Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly which means the He kept EVERY law perfectly including the 4th commandment.
Fulfill, not abolish.

Keep His two commandments not the 613 laws of the Jewish law which included the 10 commandments.
If you don't follow God's moral law, and I'm talking about what God gave, not what the Jews turned it into, then how do you know if you're sinning? So technically by your argument, I can lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery, not honor my father and mother, because God "fulfilled" the law in that way according to you. You hold two opposing view points.
A) Jesus talked about keeping 9/10 commandments
B) We can ignore the 10 commandments because Jesus fulfilled them.
It's one or the other, it cannot be both. Both is cognitive dissonance.

Tell me, are the vast majority of Christians that worship on Sunday living in sin?
Yes, if they work on saturday

Are the vast majority of Christians that worship on Sunday and do not repent for breaking the 4th commandment living in sin and therefore in danger of not being saved?
Worshiping on sunday isn't against the commandment. If people don't work on saturday and go to church on sunday, you're still fine. I'm not sure why you lumped the two together. But to answer the rest of you're question, if you're "living in sin" then yes, you would be in danger of not being saved. Just as living in a state of breaking any other one of God's commandments on a continual and habitual basis.
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An EBT Crisis?

Anyone here aware of the big TikTok trend where people on EBT are threatening mass thievery of food from stores come November 1st? They're saying that if they don't get their free food, it's still going to be free because their just going to walk into the stores and steal it. I mean, many people do that already but they're talking about doing it en masse. And they say if it takes violence, that's what it takes. Through compilations I've come across hundreds of these videos. And of course these aren't the elderly, the sick, the disabled. These people look (and talk) as if they're quite capable of doing a days work, but just refuse to. You think this is all just them venting their entitlement or do you think there's trouble ahead?

Unfortunately I can't post any of the videos because I can't recall a single one which wasn't laced with profanity from start to finish.
Tik Tok is built on an algorithm that feeds off what users engage with and also rewards bad content because people engage with it whether in agreement or outrage. Many people post rage bait because at the end of the day they make a couple bucks. Don’t take even a few hundred copy cat posts as a sign of a movement. There are thousands of of new videos posted to this platform daily that are not of this nature.

Having said that that, my experience today is many videos on how to feed a family on minimal dollars with the coming missed EBT checks on the horizon. Choose to promote the positive instead of those who only want negative attention.
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