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Hegseth to Return Memorial Biden Tore Down in Arlington National Cemetery

invocation at the unveiling

"Grant, O Lord, that this enduring bronze may speak to the generations to come of the intense love of liberty that animated our brothers who fought and fell under the banner of the
Southern Cross. May it be a perpetual reminder of their un- c[uenchable valor—of their lofty patriotism—of their heroic constancy—[etc.etc.]

"Blessed be Thy name that we are now able to recognize that their valor and their devotion were not in vain—that their heroic blood was not shed to no purpose. Though their banner sank in defeat, we believe, O Lord, that they won a sublime moral victory, whose luster will never grow dim.

Let our children, and our children's children, as they stand before this memorial of the Confed- erate Soldier, have borne in upon their spirits the sublime truth that fidelity [sic] is better than success

[Commander of the Confederate Veterans]
"I am sure that I shall not offend the proprieties of either the hour or the occasion when I say that we still glory in the records of our beloved and immortal dead. The dead, for whom this monument stands sponsor, died for what they be- lieved to be right. Their surviving comrades and their chil- dren still believe, that that for v/hich they suffered and laid down their lives was just—that their premises in the civil war were according to our Constitution.

The sword said the South was wrong, but the sword is not
necessarily guided by conscience and reason. The power of numbers and the longest guns can not destroy principle, nor obliterate truth. Right lives forever.

[A more conciliatory tone from the GAR]
"This memorial structure speaks the language of peace and good-will. Itsaystoallwhocomehitherandreadthesuper- scription that the swords and bayonets that once gleamed along the battle's fiery front have been 'beaten into plowshares and pruning hooks.' It declares through the symbolical wreath of unfading laurel held in outstretched hand above the sleeping dead that the spirit of heroic devotion and lofty self-sacrifice which they manifested is held in grateful and affectionate memory.
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Israel's Security Cabinet approves plan for Israeli military to take over Gaza City

Ask Hamas...they are the ones starving their own people. 88% of aid is stolen by Hamas and then resold for a huge profit on the black market.
Almost 9 in 10 aid trucks looted before reaching Gaza destinations, UN figures show

Majority are overrun by ‘starving, desperate people,’ not Hamas or other armed groups, UN staffer tells ToI, adding problem didn’t exist during January truce, when aid was sufficient

Since the May resumption of humanitarian aid deliveries to Gaza after a two-month Israeli blockade, a total of 2,604 aid trucks have been collected by the UN. Of those, 2,309 — 88% — did not reach their intended destinations inside the Strip, according to the United Nations Office for Project Services.

According to the organization, this was due to the trucks being “intercepted either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors during transit in Gaza.”

Olga Cherevko from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs clarified to The Times of Israel that the vast majority of looting is being carried out by hungry Gazans, not by armed gangs.

“The long-standing restrictions on the entry of aid have created an unpredictable environment where there is a lack of confidence by the communities that aid will reach them,” she said.


“This has resulted in many of our convoys offloaded directly by starving, desperate people as they continue to face deep levels of hunger and are struggling to feed their families,”
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Jesus Will Be Here, One Taken, and One Left

The disciples asked a peculiar question when Jesus spoke of those "taken."

Luke 17:34
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

They wanted to know where the taken ones were going, that is, where they were "taken."

Luke 17:34-37 KJV
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

The word eagles should be translated as " vultures."
The bodies of those taken will be taken in death, and the fowl will devour their bodies.
These verses have nothing to do with the resurrection. It is the exact opposite. Many scholars and students believe this has to do with the death of those who will die in the sudden invasion of Israel.

The same language is used regarding the great flood. The people "taken" were not saved by the ark; they were taken to their deaths in the flood.

Matthew 24:39-40 KJV
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


You do not want to be among those "taken" in that day,
Dear SavedByGrace3,

In Luke 17 and Mat 24, Christ is teaching about the spiritual events that happen to His Elect as they travel to their moment of salvation/conversion. This moment of conversion occurs when the "ends of the ages" come upon an Elect person.

1Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened to them as types, and have been written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

Conversion requires Christ to give a person both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit, followed by His judgment (the Day of the Lord). In Mat 24:37-41, Christ is describing the judgment portion of an Elect person's conversion process.

You are right to say that the one who is "taken" is not the one who is saved. The one who is taken is the child of the Devil who has been condemned to death by the law. The one who is left is the newly born child of God.

This verse applies:

John 3:18 He (the child of God) that believeth on him is not condemned: but he (the child of the Devil) that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

All mankind has sinned and is "condemned already". Nothing can change that truth. All mankind is headed to destruction in the Lake of Fire (a symbol for judgment). But because the Father loves mankind, He sent Christ to be mankind's Savior.

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.

To save mankind, Christ will freely give each person a new birth prior to their destruction in the Lake of Fire. In this age, Christ is only saving those who have been chosen from the foundation of the world for an early salvation. They will be the first-fruits of Christ's harvest of mankind. They are called the Elect, the Heirs, the Bride, the Saints, etc.

Here is how Mat 24:37-41 should be understood. My comments are in blue.

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood (judgment) they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark (Christ), 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away (child of the Devil); so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field (one believer); the one shall be taken (child of the Devil), and the other left (child of God). 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill (one believer); the one shall be taken (Great Harlot/marred spirit with a carnal nature), and the other left (new spirit with a divine spiritual nature).

Christ's New Covenant teachings are spiritual teachings which apply "within" a person. When a person applies His teachings out into the world (like is common with most end-time teachings), the truth of what Christ is teaching will remain veiled.

I am curious about the statement under your member name that says "Jesus is Lord of all! (Not asking permission)". What do you mean by that statement?

Joe
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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

We know...."All citizens are equal, but some are more equal than others." It was easier in the Russiagate collusion for them to just pretend to be American citizens on social media. A lot of that going around, um?

There’s that unproven collusion word again.

Number of contacts by Trump associates with Russians


By April 19, 2019, The New York Times had documented that "Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition."[27]

The Moscow Project – an initiative of the Center for American Progress Action Fund – had, by June 3, 2019, documented "272 contacts between Trump's team and Russia-linked operatives ... including at least 38 meetings.... None of these contacts were ever reported to the proper authorities. Instead, the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them."[28]


2015–2016 foreign surveillance of Russian targets


In late 2015, the British eavesdropping agency GCHQ, during the course of routine surveillance of "known Kremlin operatives already on the grid", used "electronic intelligence" to collect information from these Russian targets. They found that "Russians were talking to people associated with Trump...According to sources in the US and the UK, [the conversations] formed a suspicious pattern."[6] The British passed this information about "suspicious 'interactions'" between "members of Donald Trump's campaign team" and "known or suspected Russian agents" to US intelligence agencies.[6][5]

Over the next six months, European and Australian allies began to "pass along information about people close to Mr. Trump meeting with Russians in the Netherlands, Britain and other countries."[7] Reports of these "contacts between Trump's inner circle and Russians" were shared by seven allied foreign intelligence agencies (reportedly those of the United Kingdom, Germany, Estonia, Poland, Australia, France, and the Netherlands).[6][5] The New York Times also reported that British and Dutch agencies had evidence of meetings between "Russian officials – and others close to Russia's president, Vladimir V. Putin – and associates of President-elect Trump".[7]

James Clapper confirmed that the following information was "accurate" and "also quite sensitive": "Over the spring of 2016, multiple European allies passed on additional information to the United States about contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians."[29]

Later, U.S. intelligence overheard Russians, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump associates,[6][5] with some Russian officials arguing about how much to interfere in the election.[7]


Eight Trump underlings were convicted because of their contacts with Russian agents. Two Russian intelligence officers were recorded by the CIA, congratulating themselves on their success in making Trump president. The Russians certainly thought the collusion was effective.
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The Sabbath. Stunning admissions?(I have no idea where things goes otherwise)

No, John does state we are to be without sin. And I know why 1 Jo 1:8-2:2 says what it says without contradicting chapter 3 where it states we can be without sin through Christ.


As far as a look goes all you have done was jump to another letter when posed with what John 8 and Romans 8 state a few posts back.
So apparently you are doing and have been doing what you state I have done.
Don't confuse "without guilt of sin" with "without sin."
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If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

No, the discussion is senseless because you seem to be arbitrarily assigning certain Scriptures to "literal" or "allegorical."
So the Bible is allegorical in spots, and your're inspirted to spot the spots.
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8 things to know about the only Catholic parish in Gaza

Where would they go? And what would the parishioners and school do?
If I understood correctly there are only 1000 Christians in Gaza. Some Orthodox, and only 100 Catholics. Why can't they take them in just like they do everywhere else. Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants here in the U.S. Are taken in by the Catholic Church. If their own Churches took them in in the middle east, it would not be very many that each would have to take in. I do not understand your question about parishioners? These would be the group of Christians that are there. As for the school? These people are in a war Zone, what is a school?
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Hegseth to Return Memorial Biden Tore Down in Arlington National Cemetery

Do you mean "liberals"? That is my "side". (I now consider myself a Democrat, but that is something that happened for me this year.)

All things liberals have opposed.

This is some weird GOP talking point/fantasy. It has no connection to reality.
YOUR side is fighting for it as we speak. Heaven forbid we remove able-bodied persons off the welfare rolls, or any of the other govt. assistance rolls, or suggest they actually go out and get a job or even volunteer somewhere for a few hours a week. There is a reason the assistance programs need reform, because they, by and large, ignore the requirements for people to work in order to get assistance. This leads to lots of fraud and abuse (and don’t deny it because we all know people who refuse to work because they can get more money from the govt. if they don’t), and costs the federal govt. $800B a year, and the states $300B a year.

It’s sad that the left would rather let the poor wallow in poverty and not choose reform than vote for reform and create programs that would give them the skills to lift themselves out of poverty.

There’s an old saying: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he‘ll feed himself for life.
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Look who's side God is no now.

You misunderstand. The law, all of it is meant to be guide us to the understanding we cannot be good enough and to provide guidance and lessons. The law is broken down into three parts. Moral, ceremonial and judgements. All meant to show how we are not able to be righteous and how we are under judgement and what judgements we deserve. That a sacrifice was required in order for us to be able to have any kind of relationship with a holy God.

When Christ came he provided the sacrifice once for all and became the new high priest. And a new covenant was created through him. Those in HIM have received the new covenant. This does not apply to unbelievers.

Now if there was perfection through the Levitical priesthood (for under it hath the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should arise after the order of Melchizedek, and not be reckoned after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For there is a disannulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in thereupon of a better hope, through which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as it is not without the taking of an oath (for they indeed have been made priests without an oath; but he with an oath by him that saith of him,The Lord sware and will not repent himself,Thou art a priest for ever); by so much also hath Jesus become the surety of a better covenant.

And the law came in besides, that the trespass might abound; but where sin abounded, grace did abound more exceedingly: that, as sin reigned in death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were through the law, wrought in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that wherein we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Howbeit, I had not known sin, except through the law: for I had not known coveting, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet: but sin, finding occasion, wrought in me through the commandment all manner of coveting: for apart from the law sin is dead. And I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died; and the commandment, which was unto life, this I found to be unto death: for sin, finding occasion, through the commandment beguiled me, and through it slew me. So that the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good. Did then that which is good become death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good;—that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful.


For the law having a shadow of the good things to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect them that draw nigh. Else would they not have ceased to be offered? because the worshippers, having been once cleansed, would have had no more consciousness of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance made of sins year by year. For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith,Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not,But a body didst thou prepare for me; In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hadst no pleasure: Then said I, Lo, I am come (In the roll of the book it is written of me)To do thy will, O God. Saying above, Sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein (the which are offered according to the law), then hath he said, Lo, I am come to do thy will. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By which will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

For all have sinned and fallen short. Jesus said the world is condemned already. How do we know that. Apart from the law there is no judgement. It is is only by Christ that we are set free. In Christ we are set free from the first and established into the new.


Because I have accepted Christ as my sacrifice I am under the new covenant established by him and am no longer under the old law. It is as I said simply before. He is my righteousness now. Not myself.
Whoa. Thats quite a response. I will give it proper attention later when I have the time, even if I continue to check in and make quick comments on other things.
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Top Trump officials will discuss Epstein strategy at Wednesday dinner hosted by Vance

Often CNN, and more often The Washington post, will claim an anonymous source came to them exclusively with whatever claim which launched their expose. There's nothing wrong with other outlets picking up on it. But if it turns out to be false or incorrect, whoever got that ball rolling should bear the brunt of the blame.
Just show us the files.
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Look who's side God is no now.

I dont think so. When Jesus declared all food to be clean, that literally is the opposite of what came before.

Its not unclean foods are still unclean as told in olden times, but you shant worry because of your faith in me. No, its all foods are clean.
You misunderstand. The law, all of it is meant to be guide us to the understanding we cannot be good enough and to provide guidance and lessons. The law is broken down into three parts. Moral, ceremonial and judgements. All meant to show how we are not able to be righteous and how we are under judgement and what judgements we deserve. That a sacrifice was required in order for us to be able to have any kind of relationship with a holy God.

When Christ came he provided the sacrifice once for all and became the new high priest. And a new covenant was created through him. Those in HIM have received the new covenant. This does not apply to unbelievers.

Now if there was perfection through the Levitical priesthood (for under it hath the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should arise after the order of Melchizedek, and not be reckoned after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For there is a disannulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in thereupon of a better hope, through which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as it is not without the taking of an oath (for they indeed have been made priests without an oath; but he with an oath by him that saith of him,The Lord sware and will not repent himself,Thou art a priest for ever); by so much also hath Jesus become the surety of a better covenant.

And the law came in besides, that the trespass might abound; but where sin abounded, grace did abound more exceedingly: that, as sin reigned in death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were through the law, wrought in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we have been discharged from the law, having died to that wherein we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Howbeit, I had not known sin, except through the law: for I had not known coveting, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet: but sin, finding occasion, wrought in me through the commandment all manner of coveting: for apart from the law sin is dead. And I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died; and the commandment, which was unto life, this I found to be unto death: for sin, finding occasion, through the commandment beguiled me, and through it slew me. So that the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and righteous, and good. Did then that which is good become death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might be shown to be sin, by working death to me through that which is good;—that through the commandment sin might become exceeding sinful.


For the law having a shadow of the good things to come, not the very image of the things, can never with the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect them that draw nigh. Else would they not have ceased to be offered? because the worshippers, having been once cleansed, would have had no more consciousness of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance made of sins year by year. For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith,Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not,But a body didst thou prepare for me; In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hadst no pleasure: Then said I, Lo, I am come (In the roll of the book it is written of me)To do thy will, O God. Saying above, Sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein (the which are offered according to the law), then hath he said, Lo, I am come to do thy will. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By which will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

For all have sinned and fallen short. Jesus said the world is condemned already. How do we know that. Apart from the law there is no judgement. It is is only by Christ that we are set free. In Christ we are set free from the first and established into the new.

It is important. If YOU believe various foods are still unclean, how can that not affect you if you partake of them? Or if you dont partake, then you go through life vigilant of various dietary restrictions. But if YOU do believe that, as Jesus said, all foods are clean, then you can dispense with that whole issue as a matter which might weigh on your conscience.
Because I have accepted Christ as my sacrifice I am under the new covenant established by him and am no longer under the old law. It is as I said simply before. He is my righteousness now. Not myself.
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I'm bummed out on church

Just a heads up... but I quietly started attending Episcopal churches in the area. The heat around opposition to LGBT issues is dying down in the diocese, as the memory of the early 2000's General Convention fades and organizations like the ACNA and GAFCON lose salience. They still aren't onboard with ordaining gay priests, but there are more people now attending who are openly gay. I suspect the marginal attitude has shifted towards a quiet acceptance. Not to say there are no holdouts with firmer opposition, but it sees to be mostly in the hands of a few. And that's good enough for me.

My experience in the UCC has been that people are sincere, but that's not good enough in today's environment. The Puritan ethos that made that kind of Protestantism work is increasingly broken in a media-saturated, hyper-capitalist society.

I'm still attending coffee hour to get a sense of fellowship, and I volunteer at the food pantry and thrift store, but I am increasingly feeling like the worship isn't good for the fragile state I realize I am in. I don't need a church that reflects a certain kind of discourse rooted primarily in saturating Christianity with quasi-political slogans or poorly written but "acceptable" language. I need more grounded faith than that.
Hi there! I hope you are doing well!

Peace
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Hegseth to Return Memorial Biden Tore Down in Arlington National Cemetery

As for what the monument meant to the UDC that erected it, the History of the Arlington Confederate Monument, published by the UDC shortly after it was put in place, should be considered definitive.

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[In 1898, President McKinley suggested in a speech that Confederate soldiers be interred in Arlington. [A few UDC objected to having their ancestors' remains planted alongside Yankees, but ultimately this was done.]

After the Confederate section had been completed, with a mound in the center for a monument, the monument be- came a certainty.

[Speech at the laying of the cornerstone]

"It is to these soldiers that we are to erect this monument
the rank and file of the Confederate armies—the men whose
courage and devotion lifted Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney
Johnston, Joseph E. Johnston and Stonewall Jackson higher
and higher till they wrote their names among the stars.

"The memorial is being constructed on his own design at Rome,Italy,bythegreatartist.SirMosesEzekiel. Thechief figure is that of a woman, representing the South; her ex- tended left hand holds a wreath of laurel with which to crown the Confederate dead



The 'reconciliation' is that Arlington allowed the Confederates in. The monument itself is one to the Southern dead alone. However, it came with a side order of revisionist history and racial caricature, which is why it was decided it should be removed.
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Watch: CNN Cuts Tulsi Gabbard Off as She Lays Out the Inconvenient Facts of the Russia Hoax

We know...."All citizens are equal, but some are more equal than others." It was easier in the Russiagate collusion for them to just pretend to be American citizens on social media. A lot of that going around, um?
There’s that unproven collusion word again.
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Look who's side God is no now.

Perhaps. But perhaps not. But even if we take the passage in Mark chapter 7 in an isolated fashion and attempt to interpret it, it becomes difficult to see that Mark's narrative ends up somehow undercutting the essential underlying directives of "the Law."
Its not difficult at all. First of all, its clear: all foods are clean. Second, Jesus explains why all foods are clean.

Sometimes when you have a new fact dangling there in isolation we get suspicious. But fact plus explanation? That cant be dismissed except by invoking nuclear options like inauthenticity.
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Limited atonement !

Redemption is all about the nature of God, who God is. and what He wants for us. Some would say that a good God would never have allowed the freddom in Eden that resulted in Adam's disobedience and all the sin that followed in human history. But He wants us to come to use that freedom rightly, rather than abusing it, and that's been His purpose ever since as He's patiently worked in and through man down through time. And most people certainly reject the idea that a good God would actually have created man while predestining anyone to hell.

Redemption, as per God's wisdom and will, shows the extent of God's love as he took on human flesh and suffered and died in it for our sake. And it shows the fact hat He won't make us bow before and be convicted by that act-we can reject the light, the love that He has for His creation, for us. And that rejection is the choice for evil over good, death over life, no God over God, hell rather than heaven; cold, selfish pride over love.
Do you understand the pitfalls outlined ?
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