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What are you watching right now?

I am watching the TV show Life Goes On. It's so wholesome! & it does it w/out being preachy. In the end the characters always end up making the right decision when faced w/ a conflict or temptation. Sometimes it takes a lot of time, you meet the adults where it's fallen apart & it clicks for them. It's motivational to make good decisions yourself. There's no bad episodes. A lot of the episodes focus on disability too. The family is Catholic so it brings that dynamic too (tho it rarely gets mentioned). But one thing you have to remember watching the show is, reality is harder then what TV makes it look to be.

I watched a lot of the MLB playoff series Detroit vs Seattle. Seattle won. I wanted Detroit

I've been watching a lot of college football
I am watching a Netflix series about the Roman Empire. It's called "Roman Empire". What a creative name.
That's when Jesus came!
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Republican Congressman Under Protection Order in Florida

Maybe, should he be forced out of Congress, he could get a job in the Executive Branch - sounds as if he'd fit right in....
I would support ANY Congressman being forced out of office for impropriety of any kind, Financial, legal and immoral.
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A conversation I am having right now with DeepSeek LLM/AI.

Test it yourself.

Go watch a video.

Then watch it again.

You'll know ahead of time who is going to say what and when.

In fact, you'll know how it ends before it even starts.

Yet the actors in that video had 100% freewill.
No being can know what you're going to do/say/choose for 100% sure if that possibility is not also absolutely 100%. You have an alternative explanation or (short) video you wish to present here showing how it can/could be otherwise, then I'm open to it, but right now the two are logically incompatible right now though, etc.

No being can say "I know for 100% sure what you are going to do/say/choose next" if the possibilities of that are not also 100%, because if they are different, then no being does know or can say for sure 100%.

This is the question/type of questions that I hit the LLM/AI with that always forces it to reevaluate it's default position (which is always the opposite of that) if it assumes there is a being that knows 100%.

God Bless.
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

It's not a conspiracy theory
You just love the conspiracy theories. I just dont have to listen or believe in them. It must be an interesting world you live in.
The immigrant studies are not bogus
Yeah they are.
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The Schumer Shutdown

Wrong. The left wants healthcare for all, not just for undocumented folks.
Historically a few tribes lived in health, for all.

Everywhere government got power, that became a fiction, they wanted money and power instead of healthy people.
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Great Tribulation and the "Climate" Agenda

God has told me to warn that the economy will soon collapse. In this way we might prevent war and death i guess.
The world canral church brought on all the wars and conflicts - never prevented one unless it was seen as advantageous to securing more power.
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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

By that line of reasoning, we should get rid of murder laws as well. Criminals aren't going to care about the law anyway.
Why on earth are certain folks bound and determined to do something thats either completely unrealistic or propose things that wouldn't have prevented this type of attack.

What gun law would have stopped this?
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Mississippi School Homecoming Celebrations Turn Deadly as 8 People are Killed 20 Injured in Separate Shootings

Correction: it's humans killing humans. So don't try to make it an "Americans" problem.
I think we are getting broader and broader here.

Humans have always killed humans.

But we also know there are certain humans that seem to be predisposed to kill other humans.

In America its a certain group who is predominantly involved in that percapita.
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

Another conspiracy? Man you never stop do you. Like I said, spend the time criticizing your own before you focus on ours. Australia has no room to talk.
It's not a conspiracy theory to point out what NPD is and does!

It's just a medical fact. As the article I linked to says:

A second psychologist, Dr Vince Greenwood, says people with Trump’s condition “exhibit a grandiose sense of self import, derive pleasure from causing harm, and are incapable of caring about other people’s feelings.”​
And a third, Dr Diane Pomerantz, continues the explanation by adding: “This explains Donald Trump’s pathological lies, misogyny, his admiration for dictators and his criminal behavior.”​
The advertisement concludes with a psychologist named Dr John Gartner stating that Trump “has no choice but to be a malignant narcissist,” and adding that voters can choose whether to put him back in the White House — or not...​
...“If it wasn’t clear by his erratic, self-obsessed behavior, his pathological lying, his lack of moral conscience, his assaults of women, and his blatant disregard for the safety of others, more than 200 experts agree that he is unfit for office,” Conway said. “Voters need to recognize the threat we face electing this deranged man.”​
NPD in the Oval Office is just plain dangerous.

The immigrant studies are not bogus just because you assert they are.
They come from the best analysis of various credible government department data.
It's not my fault you don't want to hear the reality - I'm just the messenger.

But - now that you KNOW (even though you're denying it publicly) that aliens should SHOULD ACTUALLY fear theft and rape and murder from AMERICANS at up to four times the rate Americans might fear that from aliens - you are a more informed adult.


You're welcome.
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Does anyone still receive the Eucharist by mouth?

Hi,

I've been back to Mass regularly now for the four straight weeks. I have only seen a couple of very old timers that still receive the Eucharist by mouth. I grew up in the church before the hand option was around. I did by mouth 1x and the priest did seem a bit surprised when I didn't extend my hands. Comments? Thx
I receive in the hand.
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Heating up down under

We have a "Heat pump" HWS (like having an air conditioner bolted on top of the system), we have one hybrid vehicle (petrol or "gas" as in the US) while the older vehicle is petrol only; we have a water tank which doesn't save much water as it is only used for the gardens, a magnetic induction stove to use less power when cooking etc.

Awesome! You can only do what you can afford at the time. As I said above, the Energy Transition will take 25 years or so even IF crazy climate deniers like Trump are all kicked out of government.
But we still create our fair share of CO2, produce heat when we do anything at all; we use less water than the average but we still use water; we try to recycle what we can (it is amazing how much packaging has to be recycled - there must be a significant energy component in doing that); and overall we live in a wasteful society with thousands of cars in peak hours just pouring CO2 into the air and going nowhere.
Of course - and it feels awful.

I thought of renaming my blog "The Lazy Environmentalist" because I feel exactly this guilt - and wish society could fix umpteen systems I am currently forced to use. I have a LOT of technical hope in various answers emerging - and listen to way too many podcasts about this stuff.

I think God is going to hold us to account for our incredibly wasteful lifestyles. I believe he put the fossil fuels there and that they were intended to last for centuries. He didn't put them there so we could burn them up in a century or so with our short sighted greed.
I agree! At first, when the global population and coal use were both so much smaller, the move to coal was a net environmental gain! It was a more energy dense source of heat than firewood - and it let the forests regrow!

But once we got to say the 1950's I wish society had moved into nuclear big time - until we had developed modern renewables. Fossil fuels would have been a great source of chemical feedstocks for many millennia if we had avoided just BURNING them all as fast as we did.

(There are new nuclear reactor designs that can burn nuclear waste! They're called breeder reactors, and they burn through all the extra energy that keeps nuclear waste radioactive for 100,000 years. By the time waste has been through the breeder a few times, it's so "hot" it burns itself back to safe levels in just 300 years. Great idea - but unfortunately way too expensive. Renewables are faster and safer and going to be VASTLY cheaper!)

And they are running out, so alternatives have to be found whether we like it or not.
Exactly! I wish I could believe climate change was all a government hoax to get us to give up fossil fuels before they peaked! Most people have no idea that running OUT isn't the issue, but the moment when they start to RUN DOWN could trigger an economic catastrophe if we didn't have renewables and EV's scaled up to the lower costs we have today!

For myself I think hydrogen will play a significant part in any future energy system, especially transport. But the infrastructure isn't there, and there is the energy component required to isolate it and store it under very high pressure.
Hydrogen could in large harvesters and airlines. But keep in mind hydrogen takes 3 or 4 times as much energy to make the fuel as it does to just charge an EV in the first place. Also - as you know, Aussie trucks are INSANE! America has something like a 36 tonne limit on their trucks - but we have huge trucks. There's no way a Tesla semi could pull our loads! So what to do?

Easy! I'm so proud of this company! They're Aussie - with big trucks - so they invented a BATTERY SWAP program for giant trucks!

In a Toyota Mirai hydrogen car, the pressure in the tank is about 10,000 psi, or 5 US tons to the square inch. I used to think Scuba tanks had a lot of pressure at about 3000 psi, but hydrogen fuel tanks are more than 3 times as much.
Goodness!
Our cities are designed for independent transport and we all assume we can drive wherever we want, whenever we want. I think a sea change is required in city planning.
Oh yeah! Now you're speaking my language. My sister-in-law has a Phd in this stuff - and I have my own hobby blog about it.

In a nutshell, I think climate change is happening and I also think God is going to hold us accountable for our wasteful lifestyles which are exacerbating the problem. He won't fix it either - His attitude will be "You made your bed. You lie on it."
Amen brother.

He doesn't fix many of our self-induced problems. As Romans 1 suggests - he lets us experience the results. He hands us over to them!
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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

What about "they're sending their rapists"
"They're poisoning the blood"
"They're the worst - they're not even humans - I call them animals"
Yeah those criminals are animals. Anyone who is a rapist, murderer, drug dealer, cartel member, child traffickers, sex trafficker is nothing more than an animal.
Isn't THAT the rhetoric that gets people riled up and violent?
Nope because we aren't seeing a huge increase in violence against the illegal immigrants by those who dont support it. But we are seeing an uptick in violence from those who DO support illegal immigration. Yeah its the lefts rhetoric that is helping to cause that.

And I personally do not support any rhetoric. Some of Trump's rhetoric is certainly too much for my taste.
"Proud Boys - stand back and stand by."
Yeah he was try to get them to back off.
You are getting pretty silly now.
These people see the families they care about seized by men in masks.
Irrelevant.
When was the last time I saw a show with that many men in masks just grabbing people off the street?
You think this is star wars now? I cant wait to see Trump start shooting lightning out of his fingers.

Man equating the picking up of illegal aliens with the Empire which controlled the Universe with an iron fist and a death star is a bit hysterical.
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Why do people hate ICE...

Again - who exactly hates ICE?

There are a whole lot of Voters who support them.
American citizens. And the fault is ICE being over aggressive and even arresting citizens.

Whoever trained ICE really did a poor job. I have never seen any police being this community tone deaf.
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Heating up down under

Many if not most climate change activists don't do everything they can.

1. Be careful how you 'measure' effort​

Your 'effort' standard of belief is a slippery slope. Be careful, because that kind of argument can backfire. EG: Imagine I was arguing that I don't believe you think prostitution is wrong - because I have not seen you down at the women's refuge helping get ladies off the street.

Or that you don't really disagree with porn, because you have not donated $500 a month to some anti-porn education group.

Or you don't really care about the homelessness, or drug addicts, or crime, or ....

2. This is a government and giant corporation problem - individuals CANNOT solve it!​

It's a collective action, like banning CFC's was, like ending child labour in the industrial revolution, like ending slavery!....

As I was trying to point out above - but you just bypassed - we're talking about multi-trillions in energy infrastructure.

Climate change is a global phenomenon. We either ALL wean off fossil fuels - or NONE of us are going to escape this global economic challenge and will get worse, and worse, the longer we leave it. Until.... some nations just go belly up!

Or, to take the positive view: even if all governments DO honour their Paris agreement targets - it's STILL going to take 25 years to build out the Energy Transition ASAP! And that's with BIG GOVERNMENT ACTION like subsidies to encourage the fast tracking of many technologies.

But what do us activists see now?
Trump. Spitting on climate science and scientists (calling them "stupid people" at the UN! Boy that man has the worst case of Dunning-Krueger's I've ever seen!)

Globally, big oil get tax kickbacks to the tune of HALF a TRILLION dollars a year!

Propping up global oil markets keeps the Petro-dictators in business, like the Middle-East, Venezuela and RUSSIA! It's literally funding the war in Ukraine!

Fossil fuels KILL us and cost us $5 TRILLION a year in EXTRA health bills.

Oh - but because you're American, and MAGA. So you just sneer at it all.

You feel entitled to tell individuals they're not sincere because they haven't done enough to standards you don't even believe in! You can't see enough effort! Do you know how rude and unrealistic and judgemental that is?

Dude - nice. Hey - do you care that America has 5 times the jails of any other OECD nation? What are you DOING about that? I don't think it's enough...


Also:-

You're rotating.​


Fire 1! "Climate change has always happened - and it's exaggerated."
I ask for evidence, and I reply with evidence FOR climate change, and you just move on to....

Fire 2! "The bible says do not worry about the future!"
I reply with some quick biblical evidence for an environmental theory, and a link to the Undeceptions podcast that addresses that question in more detail, and point out about how even Calvin wrote about our duty to hand over our farmlands to the next generation in a better condition than we received them in... so you replied with...

Fire 3! "You're all hypocrites and do not believe it anyway."
Energy is a communal system with multi-trillions in investment that is GOING to take 25 years even if governments DO keep their Paris agreement targets!

And are you going to reply with ACTUAL EVIDENCE for any of your silly, groundless assertions above - or just move onto Fire 4!?
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Heating up down under

When I posted the original OP about high temperatures in NW Australia, I didn't expect it to devolve into two competing camps regarding climate change.

But before I get into my own thoughts, I'll add a bit more news about record October temperatures in two capital cities - Adelaide and Melbourne.


On climate change, I think it's happening. For our part we do a limited amount - we've got a small array of solar panels which we've kept below a certain threshold as we lose the government subsidy if we exceed a certain amount. We still generate more power than we use in general consumption, excluding hot water. The subsidy finishes in 2028 so then we'll have to think about expanding the system and maybe getting a battery.

We have a "Heat pump" HWS (like having an air conditioner bolted on top of the system), we have one hybrid vehicle (petrol or "gas" as in the US) while the older vehicle is petrol only; we have a water tank which doesn't save much water as it is only used for the gardens, a magnetic induction stove to use less power when cooking etc.

But we still create our fair share of CO2, produce heat when we do anything at all; we use less water than the average but we still use water; we try to recycle what we can (it is amazing how much packaging has to be recycled - there must be a significant energy component in doing that); and overall we live in a wasteful society with thousands of cars in peak hours just pouring CO2 into the air and going nowhere.

I think God is going to hold us to account for our incredibly wasteful lifestyles. I believe he put the fossil fuels there and that they were intended to last for centuries. He didn't put them there so we could burn them up in a century or so with our short sighted greed.

And they are running out, so alternatives have to be found whether we like it or not.

For myself I think hydrogen will play a significant part in any future energy system, especially transport. But the infrastructure isn't there, and there is the energy component required to isolate it and store it under very high pressure.

In a Toyota Mirai hydrogen car, the pressure in the tank is about 10,000 psi, or 5 US tons to the square inch. I used to think Scuba tanks had a lot of pressure at about 3000 psi, but hydrogen fuel tanks are more than 3 times as much.

Our cities are designed for independent transport and we all assume we can drive wherever we want, whenever we want. I think a sea change is required in city planning.

In a nutshell, I think climate change is happening and I also think God is going to hold us accountable for our wasteful lifestyles which are exacerbating the problem. He won't fix it either - His attitude will be "You made your bed. You lie on it."
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