Paul did indeed say that the law was “added” 430 years later (Galatians 3:17,19).
Yes, Paul is speaking about a "LAW"
that the Pharisees were still promoting, that was "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham.
Let’s take that statement at face value.
To add something, it must already exist in some form — you can’t add what doesn’t exist.
To believe this preconceived idea, I would have to believe that mortal humans existed before God "ADDED" them to planet earth. That "Whales existed, before God "ADDED" them to the earth. That is absurd.
There is no evidence anywhere in the Bible which would support such a philosophy. And yet, it is your belief. Isn't God the Creator? Or are you teaching that some other god creates stuff so my God can "ADD" them as He chooses?
Paul didn’t say the law was created 430 years later; he said it was added. That means it was incorporated or expanded in a new way, not invented from nothing.
That is your "preconceived idea". There is nothing in Scriptures that support this idea, unless a person takes a few verses, separates them from the rest of the Bible, inject their own ideas in the Scripture.
Jer. 7:
22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23 "But this thing commanded I them", saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
Why would the Spirit of Christ place these words in Jeremiah's mouth if they were not true? What were the people commanded to "OBEY"?
And there certainly was a "Commandment" of God" "
concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices" for Sin. I posted them, but you don't want to examine and discuss them.
You tell me, "When was the "LAW" concerning sacrifices for Sin "ADDED" then"?
But the obvious answer to these questions, expose problems with the preconceived ideas you have adopted and are promoting. Don't you want further God's Truth, and not man-made "preconceived ideas"?
It’s called the Mosaic Law because it was revealed through Moses — but its moral foundation existed long before Sinai.
Yes, as it is written about Isaac;
Gen. 26:
4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
So it wasn't any of God's Laws, Commandments and Statutes Abraham was given, that was "ADDED" because of sins.
God revealed His will and standards to mankind from the beginning. Cain was punished for murder, Noah distinguished between clean and unclean animals, and Abraham obeyed God’s “commandments, statutes, and laws” (Genesis 26:5). None of these lived under the Sinai covenant, yet all were accountable to divine law. That shows that God’s moral principles predate Moses.
Yes, but Paul is talking about a LAW that was "ADDED", so yes, the LAW the Pharisees were promoting to the Galatians, was "ADDED" to God eternal Law defining Holiness, Clean, Righteousness that Abraham obeyed and taught to his children and household after him.
I agree.
Paul also said the law was added “because of transgressions” (Galatians 3:19). But the Bible defines sin as “the transgression of the law” (1 John 3:4). So if sin already existed before Sinai — and Scripture plainly shows it did — then the law must have existed in some form before it was written down.
Yes, this is the opposite of what you were preaching when this discussion started. You said the entire Law given by God to Moses, wasn't "ADDED" until Sinai. Of course God's Law existed, that is what the "LAW" Paul is speaking to was "ADDED" too? Another question I asked you, but you refused to answer.
Otherwise, there could have been no sin, and thus no reason for judgment before Moses.
And there was Judgment before Moses. Cain, the world in Noah's Time, Sodom and Gomorrah. But still, there was no "Command of God" concerning burnt offering and sacrifices for sin. At least no according to the Bible.
Therefore, the “adding of the law” refers not to the creation of a brand-new moral code,
That is true. God's Law is perfect and the very definition of "moral". What is Clean, what is Holy, what is Good, what is Righteous. These Laws of God were shown to Cain, the world of Noah's Time, Abraham and Sodom, etc.
What was "ADDED" was not God's instruction in righteousness. But a "LAW" that was "ADDED" because of "transgression" of
God's Righteousness.
but to the formal giving and codifying of that law through Moses — transforming what was known and understood in principle into a written covenant for the nation of Israel.
"There’s no need to rely on complex religious philosophies — the Bible speaks plainly when read in context".
The written covenant with Israel was posted for your review and discussion, and you refused to engage either one. And it is quite simple.
Here is the Covenant that was ratified in Blood.
Ex. 19:
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. 7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him. 8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
Exactly as Jeremiah 7: 22,23 declared. But the People broke the Covenant, and Moses had to go back up to God the 2nd Time. This is when the "LAW" concerning sacrifices and offerings for sin was "ADDED".
In short, Paul’s words in Galatians don’t contradict the existence of God’s moral law before Sinai; they explain its codification and covenantal administration through Moses. There is a deeper theology behind this, but even on the surface, the plain reading of Scripture supports this interpretation.
This represents your own preconceived ideas, confirmed by your own statements, that God's Law "added" because of Sin, cannot be separated from God's Law defining Sin.
Scriptural Support
Paul’s own writings confirm this understanding. In Romans 5:13, he says, “Sin is not imputed when there is no law,” yet he immediately adds, “Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses.” Death could only reign because sin was already present — and sin, by definition, is law-breaking (1 John 3:4). This proves that God’s moral law existed long before Moses.
Which is my point from the very beginning. But the "LAW"
requiring a man who sinned, to bring a goat to a Levite Priest and killing it, for remission of sins, didn't exist until after the Golden Calf. As the Spirit is Jeremiah tries to tell men but they won't abandon their preconceived ideas.
Then, in Galatians 3:19, Paul explains that the law “was added because of transgressions, until the Seed should come to whom the promise was made.” This addition points to the Sinai covenant, when God’s law — already in effect — was written down and bound to Israel as a national agreement.
Your post is not making any sense. You claim a LAW defining sin already existed since Cain and Able, and I agree. But you say out of the other side of your mouth, that this LAW was "ADDED" on Mt. Sinai. Here is the Sinai Covenant, which is the same Covenant God made with Abraham. You can read it yourself from your own Bible in Gen. 17.
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, "then ye shall" be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Where is the "LAW" requiring a man who transgressed God's Voice, to bring a goat to the Levite Priest and kill it.
Finally, Exodus 19–20 records the moment of that formal giving. The Ten Commandments, written by God’s own hand, expressed the same moral standards known since creation — now revealed as part of a covenantal structure with Israel.
Exactly, the 10 Commandments wasn't "ADDED" because Israel sinned, just as the Law not to eat of a certain tree wasn't "ADDED" because Adam and Eve sinned. Just as the Law concerning murder was not "ADDED" because Cain sinned.
But the Law the Pharisees were still promoting for the remission of Sins, from the time Jesus cast them out of the Temple, to the time of Paul and their bewitching of the Galatians, wasn't "ADDED" until after the Golden Calf, the great transgression.
Thus, the law “added” 430 years after Abraham was not the creation of morality, but the codification of divine law into a national covenant — a system of ordinances, sacrifices, and priestly mediation that pointed forward to Christ, the ultimate fulfillment of both law and promise.
Again, because of your preconceived idea that God's Laws defining sin, cannot be separated from a Temporary Law ADDED "BECAUSE" of Sins, you promote this philosophy.
And you are free to do so, as this is the foundation of "Many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, as Jesus also warns.
The law wasn’t created at Sinai —
The "LAW" that commanded a man that sinned, must take a goat to a Levite Priest and kill it for the remission of his sin, was most certainly "created by God" on Mt. Sinai, and "ADDED" to God's Law defining sin, righteousness, holiness, after Moses went up to God the 2nd time.
This popular religious philosophy that promotes the foolishness that God's Law about Loving Him and Loving others, and His definition of what these Laws mean, was only "ADDED" until Jesus came, is absurd. But the Law ADDED "because of sin", requiring a man to kill a goat, "until the Lamb of God should come", is confirmed all over the Scriptures.
it was added in written form to reveal sin and point us to Christ. God’s moral standards existed from the beginning, but at Sinai they were codified into a covenant that highlighted humanity’s need for grace. As Paul said, “The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ” (Galatians 3:24) — not so we would worship the law, but the God who fulfilled it in His Son.
I disagree with this Philosophy based on what is actually written in Scriptures. There was a temporary "LAW" ADDED "because of transgressions" that was to lead sinners to Christ for the remission of their Sins.
Zacharias was Led to this Christ and understood this before Jesus was even born.
