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RandyPNW · Jul 7, 2025

ARBITER01 said:
I have the faith of The Son of GOD, but I'm not sure how it would be alone.

True, James indicated Faith cannot be alone. But the Protestant formula "Faith Alone" always intended to have a context, and not be taken insensibly and without context.

In context, "Faith Alone" is speaking of the means of Justification. We have faith in Christ who alone did the work of our Justification.

Our own works did not justify us. Hence, "Faith Alone" is the basis of our Justification--not our own works of Self-Justification. It is our faith in Christ that enables our Justification because his works alone was able to justify us.

There are works we do that contribute to our being justified, but these works are not the basis of our Justification. One of our "works" is to simply believe that Christ is our means of Justification.

Another "work" that we do, in our approach to "being justified," is repenting. We repent in order to give Christ the place in our life where otherwise there is only independent initiative.

So, we must believe in Christ and we must repent, making him the primary inspiration in our life. These works do not justify us but they approach Christ who alone did the work of justifying us.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 7, 2025

Valletta said:
The violent speech puts lives in danger.

What speech? What did she say?

Fervent · Jul 7, 2025

JohnClay said:
But how do people know it is directly from God when there are so many contradictory messages?

I suppose it might help if He did something out of the ordinary, well beyond everyday human experience. Like being resurrected from the dead.

I've never understood the whole "Well, there are a lot of messages that contradict each other!" argument...like, sure, there have been a lot of different ideas but when we boil it down the claims are fairly limited, and only a handful involve historical claims. Most religions are either philosophical in nature, or speak of out-of-time characters. The historical ones are much rarer, and we can eliminate ones like Islam because even by their own admission Muhammad was just a guy with nothing really exceptional about him other than his military prowess. But how many human beings that lived largely mundane lives and died in ignomious fashion are we still talking about today? Just gotta wonder, how did He gain such a following from the grave?

RileyG · Jul 7, 2025

actionsub said:
Yes, they still consider themselves part of the Mormon lineage.

Interesting!

d taylor · Jul 7, 2025

A New Dawn said:
You said, in post 132, "I have never talked about following Jesus, when i am addressing receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life. As following Jesus does not give a person God's free gift of Eternal Life, only belief in Jesus gives a person Eternal Life."

What does that even mean? How can you NOT follow Jesus when speaking about receiving God's free gift of eternal life? Jesus IS the way to eternal life. That is what following Jesus means. You are splitting hairs by separating following Jesus and believing in Jesus. They are the same thing.

But since you asked:
Mat 8:22 But Jesus *said to him, “Follow Me, and allow the dead to bury their own dead.”
Mat 9:9 As Jesus went on from there, He saw a man called Matthew, sitting in the tax collector's booth; and He *said to him, “Follow Me!” And he got up and followed Him.
Mat 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.
Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be [fn]complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
Mar 1:17 And Jesus said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you become fishers of men.”
Mar 10:21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
Jhn 1:43 The next day He purposed to go into Galilee, and He *found Philip. And Jesus *said to him, “Follow Me.”

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I sure am, because The Bible splits hairs when it come to what a person must do and what God requires to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. And The Bible never states to receive Eternal Life follow Jesus. The Bible always states to receive Eternal Life, believe in Jesus.

I could write another 500 words on this, but i will just post a link to an article about this and you can read it if you like.

The New Testament Understanding of Following Jesus – Grace Evangelical Society

JohnClay · Jul 7, 2025

Fervent said:
That's a great episode, though not sure how sound that theology is.

Well that exact quote is repeated in the credits so they thought it was important. Apparently Matt Groening is an agnostic and that quote sums up how a person could not be sure whether or not God exists.
BTW I expanded on that "God" quote and came up with this:
"I think ALL evidence of God and the paranormal can be explained by skeptics as coincidence, delusion, hallucinations, or fraud"
(that way people can't be sure whether it was God/paranormal or not)
Like Futurama I think the intelligent force is probably some kind of AI.

Fervent said:
But if there is a non-obvious intelligent force as the explanation of human life,

I think I'm probably in a simulation. Simulations don't require outside forces to interact in supernatural ways though it is possible.

Fervent said:
wouldn't it make sense that that force would seek some sort of connection with it's creations?

Yes BTW I have a few examples but here's a significant one:
Login to view embedded media I was reading a Bible upside-down in a mental ward then a day or two later I received a sealed upside down Bible from my wife. There are also other significant things about that Bible.

Fervent said:
And what better way to make a connection than to express it's identity in human form with a human personality?

But how do people know it is directly from God when there are so many contradictory messages?

Fervent said:
Of course you don't love your image of God very strongly, he's basically a benevolent stranger at best. You don't really present anything that you'd be able to sink your teeth into to know Him, so how could you love Him?

Yeah.
BTW if this is a simulation I guess you'd realise that when you "wake up" like after the Roy game in Rick and Morty.

johansen · Jul 7, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
The one who fell out of a window, right?

Tragic how these things just happen.

a while ago there was some weird report that there would be a series of housekeeping events in the news, and then a bunch of bankers, 40-50 of them all died.

one of them..

Grand jury probing title company whose CEO killed self with a nail gun

www.denverpost.com

shot himself 7 times with a 2.5" finish nail gun.

yeah.. right...

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 7, 2025

Pommer said:
I remember reading a bit in National Lampoon, about a Soviet official, who had committed suicide by shooting himself 22 times in the back, pausing once to ”reload”.

The one who fell out of a window, right?

Tragic how these things just happen.

Landon Caeli · Jul 7, 2025

I heard Epstein's client list can be found written on the wall in the basement of a pizza joint. Oh wait, I'm getting my fairytales mixed up. Like Cinderella and snow white.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 7, 2025

Vambram said:
I will be truthfully shocked if those pro-illegal immigration politicians will tone down their rhetoric.

I hope they don’t. People shouldn’t be bullied into silence.

Btw, what exactly did AOC say to be personally called out? I hear lots of vague references to “rhetoric” but what specifically did she say to incite this recent targeted shooting?

Jamdoc · Jul 7, 2025

keras said:
I do not view Revelation 21 to 22:1-4, as being physical for Eternity. That idea is in fact; impossible. Revelation 22:4 ....there will be no sun, only the Light of God....as His servants shall reign for ever.

Revelation 22:4

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

You mean 5, but still

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Doesn't say the sun won't exist, just that we won't actually need it.

GodDoesListen55 · Jul 7, 2025

Vambram · Jul 7, 2025

Valletta said:
"We certainly call on Democrats to tone down their rhetoric against ICE and border patrol agents... I would encourage AOC and other Democrats to actually meet with the United States Border Patrol. These are honorable Americans who are simply trying to do their job to enforce the law."

TONE DOWN YOUR RHETORIC! Leavitt Urges Democrats to Tone Down Anti-ICE Language After Border Agents Shot At [WATCH]

After a gunman opened fire upon Border Patrol agents at an annex facility in McAllen, Texas on Monday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt is urging Democratic lawmakers to tone down the anti-ICE, anti-Border Patrol rhetoric.

hannity.com

I've been saying the same for quite some time.

I will be truthfully shocked if those pro-illegal immigration politicians will tone down their rhetoric.

Landon Caeli · Jul 7, 2025

Pommer said:
If “somewhere else” includes, say, a patch of land in Arizona, sure, why not?

Afghanistan.

Buzzard3 · Jul 7, 2025

sjastro said:
Regretfully you can't stick to the same story as I was responding to this.

Here is the table again for reference.

Aspect Evolutionary Principle How Pathogens Use It to Evolve Resistance Specific Ancestor Example How Medicine Uses Evolution to Counter Resistance
Mutation Random genetic change introduces variation Spontaneous mutations in bacterial genes confer resistance (e.g., rpsL) Mycobacterium tuberculosis H37Rv (pre-streptomycin) Screen for naturally occurring bacterial compounds (e.g., streptomycin); use mutagenesis to find weak spots in bacteria
Natural Selection Fitter variants survive and reproduce Drug-resistant strains survive treatment and dominate Staphylococcus aureus 8325-4 (pre-penicillin resistance) Use high-throughput evolution models to simulate resistance and pre-select drugs less likely to fail
Variation within Populations Genetic diversity affects survival outcomes Resistant subpopulations survive while others die Mycobacterium tuberculosis wild strains (mixed katG variants) Tailor combination therapy (e.g., rifampin + isoniazid) to minimize survival of diverse resistant clones
Adaptation Populations evolve to changing environments Enterococcus faecium evolves vancomycin resistance via vanA genes E. faecium DO (vancomycin-sensitive) Develop next-generation antibiotics targeting new pathways (e.g., linezolid targeting protein synthesis)
Survival of the Fittest Most fit reproduce in the new environment MDR strains outcompete sensitive ones in drug-rich environments Klebsiella pneumoniae ATCC 13883 Rotate or cycle antibiotics in hospitals to reduce selective pressure on any one resistance trait
Selective Pressure Environmental conditions shape evolution Antibiotic overuse selects resistant bacteria E. coli K-12 (pre-fluoroquinolone resistance) Use antimicrobial stewardship to reduce unnecessary pressure; limit broad-spectrum drug use
Co-evolution Interacting species evolve in response Bacteria develop β-lactamases, we develop β-lactamase inhibitors H. influenzae Rd KW20 (non–β-lactamase producer) Design inhibitors (e.g., clavulanic acid) based on enzyme evolution structure modeling
Evolutionary Arms Race Ongoing adaptations between rivals Pathogens modify surface proteins to evade immunity Bordetella pertussis Tohama I Continuously update vaccine components (e.g., DTaP formulation changes) to match new variants
Genetic Drift / Gene Flow Random changes & horizontal gene transfer Resistance genes spread across species (e.g., CTX-M plasmids) E. coli K-12 & Klebsiella MGH 78578 (pre-ESBL) Use genomic surveillance to monitor plasmid transmission and inform targeted antibiotic policies
Predictive Power of Evolution Evolutionary models can forecast change Streptococcus pneumoniae shifts to non-vaccine serotypes S. pneumoniae D39 (serotype 2) Predict future mutations and preemptively design mRNA or conjugate vaccines (e.g., PCV13, mRNA COVID-19 updates)

Explain how the theory of evolution is useless in the development of medicines.

That depends on what you mean by "the theory of evolution", for there are different interpretations of that term.
If by "the theory of evolution" you mean the mechanisms of evolution (as your posts suggest), please be advised that I never claimed that the mechanisms of evolution (as listed in your posts) are "useless in the development of medicines".

My argument is that the theory of common descent (that all life on earth descended from a common ancestor - often referred to as the theory of evolution) is useless in the field of medical science.

Vambram · Jul 7, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
It looks like one just did.

He is way out of line and he shall be overruled.

Hoping2 · Jul 7, 2025

Xeno.of.athens said:
Without intending to sanction bad behaviors and some of the stuff that we see from Christians. It is worth remembering that people are people. So even the people who do some stupid, naughty or bad things. May not at heart be naughty and bad. So keeping charity in the way we look I at the world around me always helps me. It helps me because I can see that other people can do some odd things and they're still quite wonderful underneath. That's my 2 cents worth.

I see no good in anyone who serves anything but God.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 7, 2025

Vambram said:
One judge doesn't really have the authority to override Congressional law.

It looks like one just did.

Bob S · Jul 7, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
God says not keeping the Sabbath is doing evil Neh 13:17 Isa 56:2 because who is it profaning? Eze 22:26

And it was for the Israelites.

SabbathBlessings said:
Jesus said we can still do evil on the Sabbath in the NC Luke 6:9

WE??? He was speaking the those under the law, not we.

SabbathBlessings said:
On the flip side Jesus said keeping the Sabbath is doing justice and righteousness and He blesses us Isa 56:1-2 which justice and righteousness is the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 and the decisions we make on all these things will be sealed once He returns Rev 22:11

So yes, not keeping the Sabbath is sin as sin is breaking God’s law 1 John 3:4 and the Sabbath is a commandment of God Deut 4:13 Exo 20:1-17 Exo 20:6 , no different than worshipping others gods or murdering our brethren James 2:11-12. So I believe when it comes to what is moral or not, best to let God decide that, not us.

It was a command given, by God, to one nation, Israel. Read all of 1Jn 3 and then use it to promote your false Gospel.

Vambram · Jul 7, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
Yes, that’s what we democrats and a majority of Americans voted for when we elected our democratic president.

Oh, does this excuse not work for the left?

One judge doesn't really have the authority to override Congressional law.

Vambram · Jul 7, 2025

GoldenBoy89 said:
Interesting.

When Obama was president the line from the right was he wasn’t doing anything about illegal immigration. In fact, that was the whole point of Trump’s election in 2016. That’s why he made it the central point of his entire campaign.

Correct. No need to militarize American cities. Just a president doing his job while respecting American sovereignty and civil rights. That’s not what we have now.

In your opinion, if a group is small enough their injustices can just be ignored.

What you believe is injustice in those situations is more often than not only people allowing themselves to give into their fears.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 7, 2025

ozso said:
A democrat judge blocked the President. What a surprise.

Yes, that’s what we democrats and a majority of Americans voted for when we elected our democratic president.

Oh, does this excuse not work for the left?

Vambram · Jul 7, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Given the data already in the news, it looks like Fox News is doing the same thing that cost it hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.

Texas officials are already disputing Fox News' attempts:

Texas Officials Blame National Weather Service for Flood Tragedy

Texas Officials Blame National Weather Service for Flood Tragedy

As the deadly floodwaters in parts of central Texas recede, there are growing questions about how the catastrophic rainfall seemingly caught the area by surprise. Some local officials say the National Weather Service underestimated the extreme rain but the agency says an initial flood watch was...

www.yahoo.com

They aren't democrats, BTW.

As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas
Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses

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www.nytimes.com

No one should be surprised.
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The warnings were out long before this tragedy.

The article from NBC News posted on Yahoo is short with very few facts. The NY Times article is one that I cannot read because I ain't a subscriber to them. The NWS did there job. Unfortunately, when flood waters rise as quickly as they did to from normal floods to a catastrophic flooding at 4am in the morning, there was not anyone awake in Kerr County responsible for reacting to flood alerts. The DOGE cuts had absolutely nothing at all to do with this catastrophic flooding event.

Sadly, back in 2016-2018, the Texas Division of Emergency Management denied Kerr County's request of $1 million dollars to build and upgrade to early warning system in Kerr County.

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

MotoToTheMax · Jul 7, 2025

rjs330 said:
Mocking during a natural tragedy does not suit you. Thats all I'm going to.say. You may keep spewing your venom if you want to. Cause the rest if us know how the phrase is commonly used. Which isnt to actually blame God. Buh by

That wasn't mocking. Show me where I was wrong.

Aspect	Evolutionary Principle	How Pathogens Use It to Evolve Resistance	Specific Ancestor Example	How Medicine Uses Evolution to Counter Resistance
Mutation	Random genetic change introduces variation	Spontaneous mutations in bacterial genes confer resistance (e.g., rpsL)	Mycobacterium tuberculosis H37Rv (pre-streptomycin)	Screen for naturally occurring bacterial compounds (e.g., streptomycin); use mutagenesis to find weak spots in bacteria
Natural Selection	Fitter variants survive and reproduce	Drug-resistant strains survive treatment and dominate	Staphylococcus aureus 8325-4 (pre-penicillin resistance)	Use high-throughput evolution models to simulate resistance and pre-select drugs less likely to fail
Variation within Populations	Genetic diversity affects survival outcomes	Resistant subpopulations survive while others die	Mycobacterium tuberculosis wild strains (mixed katG variants)	Tailor combination therapy (e.g., rifampin + isoniazid) to minimize survival of diverse resistant clones
Adaptation	Populations evolve to changing environments	Enterococcus faecium evolves vancomycin resistance via vanA genes	E. faecium DO (vancomycin-sensitive)	Develop next-generation antibiotics targeting new pathways (e.g., linezolid targeting protein synthesis)
Survival of the Fittest	Most fit reproduce in the new environment	MDR strains outcompete sensitive ones in drug-rich environments	Klebsiella pneumoniae ATCC 13883	Rotate or cycle antibiotics in hospitals to reduce selective pressure on any one resistance trait
Selective Pressure	Environmental conditions shape evolution	Antibiotic overuse selects resistant bacteria	E. coli K-12 (pre-fluoroquinolone resistance)	Use antimicrobial stewardship to reduce unnecessary pressure; limit broad-spectrum drug use
Co-evolution	Interacting species evolve in response	Bacteria develop β-lactamases, we develop β-lactamase inhibitors	H. influenzae Rd KW20 (non–β-lactamase producer)	Design inhibitors (e.g., clavulanic acid) based on enzyme evolution structure modeling
Evolutionary Arms Race	Ongoing adaptations between rivals	Pathogens modify surface proteins to evade immunity	Bordetella pertussis Tohama I	Continuously update vaccine components (e.g., DTaP formulation changes) to match new variants
Genetic Drift / Gene Flow	Random changes & horizontal gene transfer	Resistance genes spread across species (e.g., CTX-M plasmids)	E. coli K-12 & Klebsiella MGH 78578 (pre-ESBL)	Use genomic surveillance to monitor plasmid transmission and inform targeted antibiotic policies
Predictive Power of Evolution	Evolutionary models can forecast change	Streptococcus pneumoniae shifts to non-vaccine serotypes	S. pneumoniae D39 (serotype 2)	Predict future mutations and preemptively design mRNA or conjugate vaccines (e.g., PCV13, mRNA COVID-19 updates)

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