Since you misunderstand observations about the quality of your arguments as being personal remarks I shall avoid them in this post, other than in this opening sentence.

I refer to this statement:

stevevw said:

Exhibit number 2. The famous pink granite slab at Abu Rawash. It clearly shows a circular cut that almost seems shave off the top. Once again the thin edge at the ip is thinner than any massive copper saw. Not only that its a concave arc meaning its center dips below the straight edge saw and impossible to create

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I have the following difficulties with it:

• I do not see any circular cut. Please explain what you are referring to.
• You attatch significance to "shaves off the top". Why, and what does "shaving of the top" mean?
• Whatever it does mean, please explain how this significance is not undermined by the two negative qualifiers "seems" and "almost"
• Edges have a single dimension. How can a line be "thinner" than anything?
• Where is the concave arc you refer to? I see no such arc. I do not deny it exists, I ask you to identify it for me.
• Did you mean to say "Not only that, but it has a concave arc. This means the centre of the arc lies below the edge allegeldy created by the saw and that is an impossibility," ?

It is not a personal remark to say that your arguments would be treated less emotionally if it was not necessary to work hard to disentangle the poor grammar, misspelled words, peculiar sentence structure and resultant obfuscation. ChatGPT or any LLM will happily correct your writings before you post them. This will do you and your readers a great service.

Aside: We all make errors in our posts. I am not troubled by the missed "l" in the word "lip" in your quote above. Those things happen, but most can be quickly identified by a single read through the post. My read through my own post here identified four errors, but that simple read through allowed me to correct them. (I have deliberately left this "aside" unchecked. It will be amusing to see if I made any here. Statisitcally, it seems likely.)

Edit: I see I missed one on my single read through - "allegedly" was spelt "allegeldy".

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FireDragon76 said:

Trump is really a symptom, not a cause, of American cultural decay. It's been a long process in the making.

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While I agree that he is a symptom I think we also must acknowledge that he is also a validation, an approval of that character decay and thus accelerates it.

Israel has lost patience. After repeated provocations and deception by Hamas, Jerusalem has issued an ultimatum to the terrorist organisation with the tacit approval of the US, Egypt and Qatar.

At 8 p.m. sharp on Thursday evening, a 24-hour ultimatum that Israeli security circles described as a ‘final warning’ expired. Hamas was informed via mediating states that its fighters must vacate the area behind the so-called ‘yellow line’ in the Gaza Strip, the corridor that the IDF has defined as an operational security zone.

‘The window of opportunity has expired,’ an American government official told The Jerusalem Post. ‘Israel will only enforce the ceasefire where Hamas respects it. If the terrorists remain behind the line, the army will act.’ For the first time since the ceasefire began, there is official American approval for targeted Israeli operations behind the ‘Yellow Line’.

This has exhausted the diplomatic patience of the mediators. Egypt and Qatar had tried to persuade Hamas to withdraw in an orderly manner. But in Gaza, the opposite happened: fighters remained, posted observers, reinforced tunnel openings and provoked Israeli units along the line.

At the same time, Hamas continues to refuse to return the bodies of the Israeli hostages who were killed. Two bodies were handed over on Thursday, eight more, according to Israeli security services, are being deliberately withheld to exert pressure and gain time for negotiations.

Several Israeli sources report that Hamas is already in a position to hand over at least two more bodies. ‘They know exactly where they are,’ said an Israeli officer. ‘But they are using every delay to consolidate their control in the Gaza Strip and to present themselves as an equal player.’

Under the pretext of humanitarian cooperation with the Red Cross, Hamas has been allowed to cross the ‘yellow line’ several times in recent days to search for the bodies. However, according to Israeli assessments, the terrorist organisation abused this access for reconnaissance and logistical preparation.

An Israeli security official summarised the situation as follows: ‘There is hardly any pressure from the mediators on Hamas to hand over the dead. The organisation is using the issue to gain time and regroup militarily. We must expect days to pass without anything happening.’

It is noteworthy that Israel's decision to issue a 24-hour ultimatum was made with the approval of the US. After weeks of diplomatic restraint, Washington seems to have recognised that Hamas views the ceasefire not as a humanitarian measure but as a military tool.

The White House, along with Egypt and Qatar, has agreed to the ultimatum, a rare sign of consensus amid conflicting interests.
Israeli sources speak of a ‘coordinated line’ according to which the IDF retains the right to attack targets behind the yellow line once the deadline has passed.

Jerusalem is thus sending an unambiguous message: the ceasefire does not apply to terrorists who exploit it.

The yellow strip, a security corridor approximately 1.5 kilometres wide stretching from Rafah to Beit Hanun, now marks the border between Israeli-controlled territory and Hamas-controlled territory. It was originally intended to create a buffer zone to protect Israel's civilian population from further attacks.

However, Hamas has repeatedly retreated into this area in recent weeks.

Jerusalem knows that every additional day of hesitation weakens the credibility of deterrence. The ultimatum was therefore not only militarily necessary, but also politically inevitable.

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Always in His Presence said:

Sgt. Mustard

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Col. Mustard

Strong in Him said:

The Blue Bible is not relevant to this discussion.

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It is when you tell me I don't know what I am talking about.

Get ready for Sun to throw lava at Earth very soon.

Scientists can bring together the materials to create a cell but cannot create life. Only God can create life.

Apple Sky said:

And what is the Blue Letter Bible ?

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The Blue Bible is not relevant to this discussion.
Whereas you want us to believe that the firmament is solid - so prove it.

Strong in Him said:

Where is the verse/passage/Scriptural teaching that says the firmament is solid?

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And what is the Blue Letter Bible ?

Neogaia777 said:

Really, he needs to learn how to ignore all of the criticism really, instead of letting them all live in his head rent free, as it/they don't really matter ultimately anyway, and just focus on doing his job, or the task at hand really, etc.

But I think we all know he can't do that ultimately, which just shows his big, huge ego really, and how ultimately fragile he is as a human being really. But all of the critics don't really ever matter really, which is something he hasn't learned yet ultimately, etc.

But if he ever does, he could maybe even laugh with them really, etc, because nothing of what they ever say or do ever really matters in the end ultimately anyway, etc.

They don't make the decisions, but you do, so what then are you really genuinely concerned about really anyway? They've never decided any of the decisions ultimately, etc.

Our President just needs to chill the heck out and learn how to relax just a little bit really. Their opinions are always "here today, gone tomorrow" when you learn how to ignore them properly, etc.

Focusing on all of your critics, especially when you occupy the highest seat in the land, is never really ever very beneficial to anyone really, and is also not very realistic, etc, because anyone in that position is always going to have critics, etc. But they are also like the wind, and never get to decide not one single thing ultimately, but only you get to do that ultimately, which is why you shouldn't give them so much of your attention really, etc.

Or maybe let me put this another way maybe? When you give that much attention to all of your critics, which you're always going to have BTW, it's almost like you're putting them in the driving or deciding seat, and are letting them make your decisions for you really, etc, and do you really want to be doing that all of the time really, etc?

So, don't let them at all influence you or make all of your decisions for you really, etc. They're going to talk, so let them talk, because none of it really matters in the end anyway, etc, unless you make it matter, etc, but which is the same thing as letting them make all of your decisions for you really, etc.

All of your decisions then become "reactions" instead of "actions" ultimately, which is letting them dictate or decide for you ultimately, which won't ever be good for anybody, etc.

You need to learn to say "No" to all the temptations/urges that put them in the driver's seat or deciding seat IOW's, etc, and this would be my advice for anybody who ever has had/does have any kind of opposing voices or critics always, etc. Don't yield that seat, but keep it for yourself, etc. Only then can you make a decision that is solely yours, etc.

God Bless.

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And these don't always have to be opposing voices either, but they can all just only be voices that are just only made to always agree with you ultimately, etc, but you have to be able to silence them all to make a decision that is solely yours, etc.

And, yes, I have a lot of experience with a lot of different voices all of the time of all kinds of different kinds, etc.

And they always want to be making all of the decisions instead of me all of the time, etc.

And they put tremendous pressure on me when I leave the house, or when I am out in public all of the time, etc.

And, yes, after trying to deal with this when I was working for a long time, I was eventually hospitalized, and was put on disability for it after a time, and I take meds, and still go to therapy for it a lot of time, in case anyone was worried about me when I said this just now, or was wondering, etc.

But, I have help now, and it's as good as it can probably get right now, and so, for the most part, I'm fine, etc. Without those things though, I'd probably be a wreck, or end up hospitalized again though, but for the most part right now though, I'm fine, ok.

So, I'm not lazy, don't want to work, or all of the other accusations people like me get accused of all of the time, but I am being forced to do this basically because of circumstances I can't control, or that are beyond my control a lot of the time, ok, and that might still be there for a while still, ok. In case any of you were wondering that also, etc. If you don't have it, or don't deal with it, you just don't know/don't have a clue, or don't have any kind of idea a lot of the time, ok.

In any other kind of government or system, I probably wouldn't be here to talk to any of you like I am right now doing right now, etc, as suicide attempts are in my history because of this also, etc, but are not anymore right now currently, so don't worry about me, ok. I haven't thought about that in a really long time anymore now actually, so don't worry about me, ok.

God Bless.

Harmonious.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

The rules to become a president in the United States, is so bad, that Trump was a possibility to become president. Thanks to Trump, China is becoming a place, that other countries are turning to. While American people get screwed.

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Duly elected president because the last one was not mentally able to function as president and the party anointed replacement was no better.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Trump is spending a lot of money on bailing out Argentina. Because he friends with the president of Argentina. America farmers lost their Soybeans account to Argentina. Because of Trump's Tariffs nonsense.

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And just gained China as a buyer of soybeans because of Trump’s tariffs.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Because of Trump farmers lose 20 percent of cows account to Argentina. Because Trump cares more about his friends in Argentina, than American people. Farmers in Red States are suffering big time and so are people. Because they are making less money.

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Not sure about this ? Source? I do know herds are down in the US and need to be “beefed up” up. Pun intended.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

They depend on Affordable Act Care and SNAP, but Trump doesn't care.

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The part expiring was set to expire by Democrats and now they are holding the country hostage demanding 1.5 trillion in additional spending. You blaming Trump for snap is totally bogus. It is the Democrats who do not care for the people of this country holding them hostage by refusing to vote for the same clean CR they voted for 13 times in the past.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Because of Tariffs people have to pay more money on healthy foods

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The tariffs are working for the benefit of this nation , wake up.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Luckily I can grow my own food

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Good for you. Share with some those who the Democrats in congress are trying to starve by pitching a tantrum

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Trump waisted millions on a ballroom. Instead of caring about putting money in projects for kids, homeless or anything useful.

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Private money ! Get over it. This type of thing has been done by many previous presidents including Obama and probably with tax payer’s money.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Our government is so bad, that Trump and his enablers aren't fired and in prison .

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I believe you are referring to last administration. If you doubt me let’s see who spends their time in court now.

BobRyan said:

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Things that pertain to Christ's incarnation from God the Son - to the "Son of man" - do not apply to non-God humans, born of procreation not incarnation.

So then there are zero OT specifically predicting the birth, time, life , ministry and death of BobRyan,

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I disagree based on what is actually written in Scriptures. God told Abram basically to "Deny himself, pick up his life's experiences and follow God". And Abraham left the religion of his fathers, his traditions, his judgments and being renewed in the spirit of his mind, he "Let this mind be in him, which was also in Christ Jesus:"

He "put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness", just like Jesus. He became obedient to God and was blessed, according to the Promises of God.

Gen. 26: 4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. (Like Jesus did)

But is wasn't Abram, but the Spirit of Christ in Abram that enabled him to be called by God, "Faithful". Like David, Abram was called, and "SAW";

Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered. Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.

Who understood this better than Abraham?

Then said I, Lo, I come:

Gen. 12: 4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.

"in the volume of the book it is written of me", I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. (Just like Jesus did)

This is precisely "specifically predicting the birth, time, life , ministry and death Life (Blood) of Christ", that was in Abraham, Noah, Moses, Caleb, David, Daniel, Shadrack, Abednego, Zacharias, Simeon Anna, Paul and Peter and Cornelius and "Every Example" of Faithful man in the entire bible. "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith "of Jesus".

As it is written about Caleb;

Numb. 14: 22 Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice; 23 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:

24 But my servant Caleb, "because" he had another spirit with him, and "hath followed me fully", him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

Caleb said in his heart, "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

This is the whole duty of men, as it is also written.

Apple Sky said:

You mean you can't answer,

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You've been failing to answer our question for days, so don't try that with me.
Where is the verse/passage/Scriptural teaching that says the firmament is solid?

Mercy Shown said:

Finally, while it’s wonderful to honor God faithfully, we must be careful about implying that our personal way of observing the Sabbath is the definitive way God requires.

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Yes. There are many ways to interpret the scriptures. Let each person be convinced in their own conscience before God.

Fervent said:

Either he packs the conclusion into the premises by inserting the moral value that is supposedly being violated into the premises themselves, or there is no relationship between the premises and the conclusion.

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He also uses a third -- he excludes in his premises the opposing conclusion.

Claim: There are human acts which are in themselves evil and never moral (absolutely or intrinsically evil acts).
However, he fallaciously premises: Actions which are described in a way that already contains the circumstances are invalid.

He confuses the object of the act with its circumstances, circumstances merely surround, stand under the act, ie. where, when, who, etc.

(The word "circumstance" comes from the Middle English term "circumstaunce," which is derived from the Old French "circonstance," and ultimately from the Latin "circumstantia," meaning "standing around." It originally referred to the conditions or facts that surround an event or situation.)

He also does not understand what a human act is. A human act is not merely the physical act of an animal. Unlike animals, humans acts employ reason and free will (actus humanus). The object of a human act is the end to which that act independent of its circumstances tends in itself., That is, the moral value of human acts (whether they are good or evil) depends above all on the conformity of the object or act that is willed with the good of the person according to right reason.

He struggles still but there is no such thing as a "good" rape.

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See my post 132. The mistranslation of the quote from Ps. 95:11 by the KJV writers is of no consequence because it quotes the Psalmist so all one has to do is read the Psalm for the proper translation. My argument has been based on the NASB translation not the KJV. My argument remains.

The 4th commandment is the only commandment not summarized in Jesus two love commandments while all other 8 commandments are explicitly mentioned. Therefore, the 4th commandment is not required of the Christian. No one should judge others for not keeping it but you are welcomed to without judgement.



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Servus said:

Quite obviously counting sabbaths does not mean keeping the old covenant sabbath.

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Men are free to reject and or pollute God's Sabbath days and other judgements if they want. Truly this world's "church fathers" have done so since the very beginning. But for me, it seems silly to accept that the first Church of God under His Prophesied New Priesthood covenant, would Keep God's Holy Sabbath of the first and last days of Unleavened bread, and Pentecost, but reject God's Commandment concerning His Holy 7th Day Sabbath. According to what is actually written in the Holy Scriptures, they are all "Feasts of the Lord", and the Jesus "of the bible" Himself said HE Lord of the Sabbath Days. Who are we to Judge "some" of God's Sabbath Days as unworthy of our honor and respect, and others as worthy?

And the term "old covenant sabbath" is a completely man made concoction. In God's definition of His Own New Covenant, HE doesn't say, suggest or even imply that His Laws HE will write on the hearts of HIS People, exclude the 4th Commandment?

In fact, according to God's definition of His Own "New covenant", there are only 2 things that changed. If you are interested you can read this for yourself in Jer. 31 and Heb. 8.

#1. That manner in which God's Laws are administered.

#2. The manner in which the remission of Sins is provided for.

This world's religions promote the belief that most of God's Laws are abolished in God's "New Covenant". But clearly God never said or even implied any such thing, and Jesus and Paul promoted no such thing.

It was the Priesthood that changed in the New Covenant, not God's definition of Sin.

Servus said:

Counting sabbaths was the standard way of counting weeks in Jerusalem where Pentecost was held. Seven sabbaths means seven weeks.

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God's people honored God wherever they were. Not just Jerusalem. But I get it, the religious traditions of our fathers are a powerful influence. It was in Jesus Time as well. And Caleb's too.

For me, it seems important not to Judge God or His Commandments, some as worthy of honor and respect, and others only worthy of rejection, according to the philosophies and traditions of this world's religions, "who profess to know God".

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There's no scripture that confirms the early Christian church kept the seventh-day sabbath, which is why sabbath keepers have to resort to citing inapplicable scripture verses.

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I simply choose to believe in the Jesus "of the Bible". He said to "Keep God's Commandments" and to "Live by Every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God" and to "Be perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect". I don't believe I am instructed by His Word to single out which Commandment to live by, or which Commandment to reject. The Sabbath wasn't controversial in Jerusalem. Even the Gentiles there understood the Commandment. Everyone who knew Jesus, knew He was obedient to God's Laws, even the 4th Commandment.

Men are free to pick and choose which instructions from God they deem as worthy of their respect and honor and which are not worthy. But when they accuse the Body of Christ in the Holy Scriptures of "doing" the same thing, someone needs to at least point out what the Bible actually says.

I am not SDA, God's 4th Commandment is just one of His instruction in righteousness that He made for men. I simply do not believe that when God created His Sabbath for men, HE intended for men to reject it and create their own. But HE did warn me to "Take heed" I am not deceived by the "many", who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that do.

Shall I not hearken to Him?

Paidiske said:

Not at all. It was St. Paul who prefaced instructions to wives, specifically, with instructions to everyone to "submit to one another." Wifely submission is only one aspect of mutual submission.

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The teachings of Paul tend to be very context-heavy and I don't even think many of them even applies today, especially on the subject of marriage.

When in doubt, I always refer to the teachings of Jesus. Jesus allowed women things that the Pharisees won't like becoming a disciple for example.

He's just the pawn they sacrifice to the public opinion. The truly powerful still escape even public naming.

Dikaioumenoi said:

Bare assertions offer me nothing to respond to, especially one's I've already argued against. Please interact with my comments in post #35 if you wish to continue.

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I really do not, i actually gave this absurd theology more time than i intended. I mean if someone believes they are born again before they believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, there is no way to actually have a discussion.

A person is born again before they believe in Jesus. So what is the purpose for a born again person believing in Jesus, so they can be born again. Right that really makes Biblical sense.