Platte said:

Well I will say this - you guys must have some big kahunas...to make such drastic changes to the literal writing that Moses gave us (Given to him directly from God) of the Creation account. Based on little to no facts (sorry Theories are not facts)...and based upon an extremely limited data set.

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You've merely rewritten the story as a literal history. Which is why your revision has you trapped into declaring that the sky is a solid dome with windows in it for rain to fall through.

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It is fair to say that we probably know less than 1% of the scientific knowledge that can be attained about Earth

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Nevertheless, I can assure you that the sky is not a dome with windows in it.

On Thursday, the Israeli army announced the end of a large-scale operation in Khan Yunis. The goal was to destroy Hamas' underground infrastructure, a network of tunnels, weapons depots, and command centers that stretched beneath the ground like a second shadow state.

The IDF's 36th Division led the operation, supported by the Golani Brigade, the 188th Armored Brigade, and the 900th Brigade. They secured the area and established the so-called Magen Oz Corridor, a strategic connection from west to east through the city.

At the same time, the 282nd Brigade fought terrorist positions with artillery and air support. According to the IDF, hundreds of fighters were killed, including men who had participated in the massacres and infiltrations in Israel on Oct 7.

The Yahalom special forces finally blew up the heart of the Hamas structure: dozens of kilometers of tunnels that served not only as weapons depots and logistics centers, but also as living quarters for terrorists.



In addition to the tunnels, hundreds of Hamas facilities were destroyed, including weapons depots, storage facilities, and operational bases. As a result, the terrorist organization has lost a significant part of its infrastructure in the south.

But the operation was not only military in nature: the army issued leaflets and warnings urging civilians to leave the area. At the same time, Israel prepared to mobilize reserves to secure the ground forces.

The fighting in Khan Yunis is part of a series of operations that have also hit the northern Gaza Strip in recent weeks. In Zeitoun, IDF soldiers recently discovered and destroyed a tunnel several hundred meters long, while in Gaza City, high-rise buildings used by Hamas as observation posts and operational centers were targeted.

In addition, there have been targeted strikes against leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Several high-ranking terrorists have been eliminated by combined ground and air strikes.

The operation in Khan Yunis shows how deeply Hamas has buried its infrastructure in the Gaza Strip literally. But with every tunnel destroyed, with every weapons depot blown up, the organization loses its ability to act.

Israel is thus pursuing a clear strategy: to eliminate Hamas's retreat areas step by step, to crush its leadership, and to strip the coastal strip of its terrorist infrastructure.

The message is clear: Khan Yunis, once a stronghold and refuge, is no longer a safe place for Hamas.

NxNW said:

Superior left, then.

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What?

iluvatar5150 said:

What strikes me is that she doesn't react much at first - no screaming, just cowering. I also don't see any blood on her right side (i.e. the side facing everybody else) before she slumps over. I can see how somebody would think, at first, that he just smacked her a few times.

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oh that's nice - "this small woman only got smacked a few times" no big deal

even if that were true, the total lack of empathy from the passengers is chilling. she is in terror.

The shooter has been identified as 22 year old Tyler Robinson according to CNN and The Daily Mail.

Hank77 said:

Several prominent Democrats also condemned the shooting, including California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

In an X post Wednesday, Newsom wrote, "The attack on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile, and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form."

Newsom invited Kirk as a guest on the first episode of his new podcast in March, where the two discussed Kirk’s opposition to trans-identified male athletes competing in women’s sports and other topics.


House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries offered his prayers for Kirk and his family.

Jeffries wrote, "Political violence is NEVER acceptable. My thoughts and prayers are with Charlie Kirk and his family."

In another article, I read quotes of sorrow and prayers that came from several other Democrats, including Clinton and the Obamas.

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It’s one thing to stand up and say political violence is not acceptable, but we have seen most who have said those things to turn around, sometimes in just a matter of minutes, and incite more violence. So until they put words to action, it is nothing more than a bunch of hot air.

Hans Blaster said:

There is a serious difference between the original still and your race-inverted alternative. In the original the bystanders are all clearly cowering in fear, trying to get as far as they can from the madman with the weapon. (It isn't a great bit of self protection, but it is a normal response.) In the race-inverted constructed image, the bystanders are just sitting there calmly watching like it is a show and they have nothing to fear.

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yea you know that's not true.

one guy jumps up and backs away for a moment, but the people around her generally look bored, and don't make any motions to help her or even look like they care at all.

to say they are "all clearly cowering in fear" is totally false. honestly, I think this video is telling you something about your worldview that you are not prepared to face.

zippy2006 said:

Depending on how we define gullibility it is either blameworthy sometimes or else blameworthy always. But I am here opposing the thesis that gullibility is not (ever) blameworthy, which only requires the claim that gullibility is at least sometimes blameworthy. Because you agree that gullibility is sometimes blameworthy, we are in effective agreement vis-a-vis that thesis.

(Yet I would maintain that gullibility is inherently blameworthy, and that not all misplaced trust is gullibility.)

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I agree that not all misplaced trust is gullibility. One exception that comes to mind is trusting a recovering addict. Taking them at their word might be a noble gesture. Giving them benefit of the doubt and being understanding of possible setbacks as they recover. That is more a matter of calculated risk than being easily fooled. The expectation that trust may be broken is taken into consideration beforehand.

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iluvatar5150 said:

I can't imagine this system being effective in anything larger than a PTA or smallish town council, because it completely discounts the complexity of modern society and government as well as the amount of expertise required to legislate effectively.

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They would be listening to the experts. How often are politicians actually trained engineers, doctors, scientists, or climate scientists? What decisions has Trump made about climate science - and what does he actually know about it? Why has Trump appointed an antivirus as the head of your department of health, a real estate buddy to negotiate peace with Putin - who walks into meetings with Putin without a translator and comes out having made a full of himself, or big lie believers who think the 2020 election was stolen being appointed to run the FBI and DOJ?

There's a reason governments across the world a point various committees or commissions in charge of special investigations, or senate enquiries. They investigate various subjects and get heaps of community input and expert consultants in, and esu all manner of ways of bringing non-experts up to speed.

It's then opened up to the civil service run and supervised democratic process that these sortition members would start to debate. Policy ideas could be thrown around as they are on many matters today.

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We only kinda-sorta use random selection in jury trials where jurors have no agency beyond making a decision about what's presented to them. Going by the numbers in the OP, members of the executive council would have terms of 7 years, and members of the legislature would have terms of up to 10 years. How the heck do you manage that with a crew randomly selected from the population?

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This is where the civil service comes in. How on earth does government work when an ignorant president like Trump gets in charge? Has the guy read a book in his adult life? Does he know anything about anything even though he thinks he knows everything about everything?

I think the average citizen would have more wisdom than Trump. Wisdom in this context is not technical expertise in all these subjects, but the wisdom to listen to the technical expertise and then know that they are starting a 9-month or 2-year enquiry into them. It's about the democratic conversation coming out in the open, and various policy alternatives being discussed.

Civil servants have the expertise to make the systems of government work, and advise the sortition members of Parliament as situations arose.

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Even getting people to serve on a jury is a struggle, and they typically only serve for a few days. These folks would, essentially, have to give up their careers, and quite possibly their homes, for a decade or longer.

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It will be interesting to see who accepted the role then. Many would be idealists. Some would be flattered, and it would be way above their normal pay grade. Get these people probably have more wisdom and relate to the common man better than many of the rich boys club currently in power.

The question is, as crazy decisions are being made across America now, is the current system really serving America better than sortician wood? How much power to lobbyists have to buy politicians? How is it that Trump was able to give billionaires tax cuts when this means another 16 million people are going to be kicked off Medicaid from the bottom of the healthcare ladder?

My guess is the average man and woman off the street would consider policies like that obscene!

stevevw said:

I don't think you understand how this is being achieved. There is no journal officially. Its open sourced so it will be presented by various academics and put back into open source to be analysed and critiqued further.

This has more or less all recent so its a case of scouring journals for the specific info. But some of the best stuff is open sourced and not necessarily put through a journal. The articles I linked are examples ie the Light scanning tests were done directly the experts who are already in the fields.

In otherwords they are coming from the scientists in the labs. Now they need critiquing. All the further findings from this come from the original tests directly from the labs. If you want to scrutinise the methods, equipement ect its all in the original worked linked by open source. I am linking the original links. But also links to further testing once again by the experts in their labs which is directly uploaded to open source.

They have chosen this method I think which is better than peer review because it not only allows peer review but does so on a much wider basis in that its allowing everyone, even the average person to see the original data and follow the results. Like I said it may be wrong but only more data and evidence can show this.

Obviously this is very expensive testing so only specialist industries with specialist equipment would be able to even do the tests and have the experts to use those instruments and analyse the data.

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But do they get the experts to weigh in on their findings? Some of them seem to use light scanning and automatic meshing, and then measuring the mesh and present a suspiciously high amount of significant digits and/or accuracy. There are possibilities to engage with the scientific community and making the data publicly available. They could use preprint servers.

Platte said:

Well if you have any facts that’s dispute Moses’ account of creation this forum is your place.

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@The Barbarian @Job 33:6 @Jipsah

Well I will say this - you guys must have some big kahunas...to make such drastic changes to the literal writing that Moses gave us (Given to him directly from God) of the Creation account. Based on little to no facts (sorry Theories are not facts)...and based upon an extremely limited data set.

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It is fair to say that we probably know less than 1% of the scientific knowledge that can be attained about Earth, especially when considering the immense mysteries that remain. This viewpoint is well-supported by significant, unresolved questions across various fields of Earth science.

I'm sure we know less that .000001% of scientific space knowledge.

Vambram said:

NFL holds moment of silence for Charlie Kirk at Packers-Commanders game after assassination

The NFL held a moment of silent reflection before the Packers-Commanders game after Charlie Kirk's assassination at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.

www.foxnews.com

Even the NFL recognizes the great impact for good that Charlie Kirk has had in this world.

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I’m glad we’ve gotten past the point of being angry about politics being inserted into our athletic events.

FireDragon76 said:

Do a simple search on who paid for Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA. It was all billionaires, most of them ardent climate deniers, and dark money donors.

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Fortunately there are some people that have large sums of money and are intelligent enough to see through the Democratic lies and social engineering for the collapse of our society.

zippy2006 said:

Of course you can. Gullibility is a blameworthy trait.

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zippy2006 said:

Depending on how we define gullibility it is either blameworthy sometimes or else blameworthy always. But I am here opposing the thesis that gullibility is not (ever) blameworthy, which only requires the claim that gullibility is at least sometimes blameworthy. Because you agree that gullibility is sometimes blameworthy, we are in effective agreement vis-a-vis that thesis.

(Yet I would maintain that gullibility is inherently blameworthy, and that not all misplaced trust is gullibility.)

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Reasoning upon the self-evident truth that that which exists Eternal is NOT a lie --> without equivocation, all statements above show that you're gullible. The meaning of gullibility infers susceptible to deception.

Zaha Torte said:

Charlie Kirk was exceptionally brilliant and effective.

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He was exceptionally effective.

Zaha Torte said:

You are just applying copium.

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Oh look - a particularly stupid, cliched insult. What a surprise.

Vambram said:

NFL holds moment of silence for Charlie Kirk at Packers-Commanders game after assassination

The NFL held a moment of silent reflection before the Packers-Commanders game after Charlie Kirk's assassination at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.

www.foxnews.com

Even the NFL recognizes the great impact for good that Charlie Kirk has had in this world.

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Really? How many teams held that minute? And that's certainly an owners choice.

And I can guarantee a lot of those players didn't think much of Kirk

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Name of the authors, article and the journal would be helpful.

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I don't think you understand how this is being achieved. There is no journal officially. Its open sourced so it will be presented by various academics and put back into open source to be analysed and critiqued further.

This has more or less all recent so its a case of scouring journals for the specific info. But some of the best stuff is open sourced and not necessarily put through a journal. The articles I linked are examples ie the Light scanning tests were done directly the experts who are already in the fields.

In otherwords they are coming from the scientists in the labs. Now they need critiquing. All the further findings from this come from the original tests directly from the labs. If you want to scrutinise the methods, equipement ect its all in the original worked linked by open source. I am linking the original links. But also links to further testing once again by the experts in their labs which is directly uploaded to open source.

They have chosen this method I think which is better than peer review because it not only allows peer review but does so on a much wider basis in that its allowing everyone, even the average person to see the original data and follow the results. Like I said it may be wrong but only more data and evidence can show this.

Obviously this is very expensive testing so only specialist industries with specialist equipment would be able to even do the tests and have the experts to use those instruments and analyse the data.

A man was taken into custody at about 11 p.m. local time on Thursday night by Utah state and local police, according to a law enforcement official who confirmed the details of President Trump’s remarks to Fox News. Federal authorities are not releasing his name because they are still in the process of pursuing leads and executing search warrants, according to the official, who requested anonymity to discuss details of the ongoing investigation.

The suspect's father convinced his son to turn himself in. Their intermediary was a local Utah minister.

Zaha Torte said:

What insult?

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And no - he gave no reasons.

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He did.

Zaha Torte said:

He claimed that Australia was superior because they are a "full democracy" - which he has no basis for claiming.

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He gave you the basis.

Zaha Torte said:

The US is a Constitutional Republic.

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And a representational democracy, John Birch Society's argument not withstanding.

Zaha Torte said:

And no one has convinced anyone that redistricting is somehow wrong in any way.

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No one has even tried. Are you deliberately fudging the difference between simple redistricting, which is mandated under some circumstances, and gerrymandering? Because that's how it appears.

I can't imagine this system being effective in anything larger than a PTA or smallish town council, because it completely discounts the complexity of modern society and government as well as the amount of expertise required to legislate effectively. We only kinda-sorta use random selection in jury trials where jurors have no agency beyond making a decision about what's presented to them. Going by the numbers in the OP, members of the executive council would have terms of 7 years, and members of the legislature would have terms of up to 10 years. How the heck do you manage that with a crew randomly selected from the population? Even getting people to serve on a jury is a struggle, and they typically only serve for a few days. These folks would, essentially, have to give up their careers, and quite possibly their homes, for a decade or longer.