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essentialsaltes · Sep 18, 2025

I am Spartacus!

essentialsaltes · Sep 18, 2025

Controversial sign in Antlers OK removed by resident

In Antlers, a sign reading “Eye for an eye, take the family out, deepest sympathy for Charlie Kirk” featuring multiple Democratic leaders, was put up Tuesday off of Highway 3 near a discount store.

"I just went and took it down myself,” said [local resident] Mack.

“About 20 minutes later, the person, came to my house that owned the sign and was very angry, respectful, but angry, told me that if I would pay restitution, that he would not have me thrown in jail, that he had already went to the police about it,” said Mack. “So I paid the restitution and it was the best $100 I’ve ever spent.”

Chesterton · Sep 18, 2025

Let's overtake a yacht.

TSOV

The Liturgist · Sep 18, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
But now, from what I've engaged through further study and by the general attitude of all you "Catholic" and/or "Orthodox" fellow Trinitarian Christians in this here thread, I don't think I'll be exchanging (or accommodating) my minimalist, philosophical theology any time soon.

Don’t forget the Confessional Lutherans, the Assyrian Church of the East and the Ancient Church of the East. The latter two will permit NIcene Christians to receive the Eucharist, but only if they believe in the real presence, which I think is as open as any of the traditional liturgical churches that believes in the real presence can safely be.

The bitter irony in all of this is that the aforementioned churches with the possible exception of the Confessional Lutherans are among the least likely to bother you over any issue of natural science of evolution; indeed the idea of the BIg Bang as an explanation of Hubble’s discovery of the increasing distance between galaxies was articulated by a Roman Catholic priest who engaged in astronomy (and not even at the Vatican Observatory, if memory serves, although that is a very good scientific institute).

The doctrine you’re being asked to accept by the way as a precondition to receiving our Eucharist - not even to attending our services, mind you, or receiving a blessing, or in the case of the Orthodox, antidoron (blessed bread) but merely receiving the Eucharist, is that you believe what Christ our True God said about it, that it is His Body, broken for us and for many for the remission of sins, and His blood of the new covenant, and that the Eucharist is an anamnesis of our Lord, in which we participate in the Last Supper - there is indeed only one Eucharist, and one Baptism, and that is what we participate in.

Also in the case of the Orthodox an Orthodox Christian cannot be an Iconoclast, a Nestorian, a Eutychian, a Monothelite, or otherwise an adherent of a doctrine contrary to the faith of the ecumenical councils (the Oriental Orthodox did not participate in the fifth, sixth and seventh council and disagreed with the specific wording adopted at the fourth, but did agree with the fourth in terms of having anathematized Eutyches, and with the Sixth and Seventh also anathematized monothelitism and iconclasm despite not participating in the councils; indeed unlike the Eastern Orthodox the Oriental Orthodox never had a Patriarchate come under the control of Iconoclasts).

Even with regards to the Eucharist, what matters to the Eastern churches, with our emphasis on apophatic theology (using the via negativa rather than affirmative statements of doctrine) is that people do not believe a theology that denies the real physical presence of Christ; as far as how that presence occurs, we have no official explanation, other than it is a sacred mystery, although on occasion some of our saints have used the word Transubstantiation, but primarily to differentiate our position from that of Calvinists who admit only a spiritual presence, or Zwinglians who reduce the Eucharist to a sign or symbol, or Memorialists who deny even that, or Receptionists.

And there are scriptural reasons for not believing in Zwinglianism, Memorialism or Receptionism, for our Lord did not say “This is a symbol of my body” or “This is not really my body in any meaningful way” or “This will not become my body until you partake of it” but rather “This is my body” and “This is my blood.” Which is why Martin Luther famously carved HOC EST CORPVS MEVM into the table at the Marburg Colloquy.

Chesterton · Sep 18, 2025

Koalas nap in the trees.

ASNAP

Strong in Him · Sep 18, 2025

keras said:
Paul tells us that it will be Gods Temple' 2 Thess 2:4

We ARE God's temple.
The Holy Spirit, God himself, lives in us.

keras said:
Why should any Christian object to a new Temple in Jerusalem?

I don't - they can do what they want.

keras said:
We build Churchs and Cathedrals to worship the Lord in.

Yes and if it was anything to do with me, we wouldn't.

We can worship the Lord anywhere. After Pentecost, his Spirit was poured out on all believers.

keras said:
That we Christians are now the Spiritual Temple of God, in no way precludes a new physical Temple, as end time Prophesy says there will be.

As I said, they can do as they wish.
I'm not in Israel.

durangodawood · Sep 18, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
https://torch-antifa.org/chapters/

Rose City Antifa

Homepage of Rose City Antifa.

rosecityantifa.org

They have a chapter structure and rules for forming a new chapter, as well as common symbolism, slogans, and organizing techniques, as well as having their name copywritten. Someone's clearly a decision maker somewhere in the mix.

Germany designates them as an "extreme-left" entity, and monitors them via their Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz).

Antifa (Germany) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

France just also recently broke up one of their groups (Jeune Garde Antifasciste)
On January 23, 2025, the Minister of the Interior, Bruno Retailleau, stated that his services were studying the administrative dissolution of the group.[20]

It was dissolved by the French government on the 12th of June 2025. [21]

I had no idea. A proper villain!

Warden_of_the_Storm · Sep 18, 2025

timothyu said:
Perhaps because that might open a whole can of worms and people prefer to be deluded so they don't have to face other possibilities

Why would it though? We don't need to assume cranial binding was a thing, because we can clearly see evidence of it happening. We have the art, we have the skulls, we have the evidence for it. It happened.

Historians know that it happened. And nothing terrible has happened because of it.

NotreDame · Sep 18, 2025

iarwain said:
In any case, Kimmel wasn't taken off the air by the government, ABC affiliates were the cause of that. Nothing funny about Jimmy Kimmel, he has long since become a propaganda machine for the left.

Your comment ignores, more accurate perhaps to say elides, salient facts of:

FCC Chair Brendan Carr threatened ABC and its affiliates if they didn’t act in regards to Kimmel.

Carr said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way…These [COMPANIES] can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead…remedies we can look at…You could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this…This is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney.”
[Emphasis mine.]

ABC, NexStar, and Sinclair have licenses issued by the FCC.

NexStar is pursuing acquisition of Tegnar, which requires the acquiescence of the FCC, specifically FCC Chair Carr’s approval is necessary for NexStar to acquire Tegnar.

There were meetings Wednesday afternoon, which included Iger and other executives, at times Kimmel, discussing, inter alia, how to address Kimmel’s remarks and Carr’s comments which could prompt costly litigation.

Now, it was the threat by a government actor, Carr, which in part played role to sideline Kimmel, and the 1st Amendment Free Speech Clause is applicable to government actors such as the FCC.

This wasn’t a mere business decision.

Carr’s comments were a threat to the licenses of at least all 3 entities, essentially the entities’ economic livelihood, with possible litigation that depletes the piggg bank as well, and because of Kimmel’s speech.

Kimmel was still trying to imply the killer was MAGA, that ridiculous idea has been thoroughly debunked.

At best his comments implied it is possible the murderer is a MAGA acolyte. His remarks didn’t assert the murderer is a MAGA or was a MAGA adherent.

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essentialsaltes · Sep 18, 2025

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camille70 · Sep 18, 2025

rambot said:
But he was implying that because they were black, they didn't have the abilities to get where they are. Yes he was referring to these SPECIFIC black women THAT time, but he has FREQUENTLY suggested that any black person should have their capacity questioned because there is NO way they could be good enough to do that job.

I agree. We're making the same point. I think the sarcasm of my last sentence was too subtle.

Chesterton · Sep 18, 2025

Michie said:
Oh I’m okay but I’m disgusted by what a lot of people say and do anymore. I know that sounds awful and I feel bad for saying it but it seems with the latest current events, I’ve seen glimpses of people’s character that is very ugly. The thing that keeps playing in my mind is when Jesus said people’s hearts will grow cold. I don’t know how much colder we can get.

It's okay to be disgusted by those lawless minions of Satan, we all are, just don't let it get you down.

essentialsaltes · Sep 18, 2025

wing2000 said:
chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Brendan Carr said ... that the FCC was “going to have remedies that we can look at.” “Frankly, when you see stuff like this,” he said, “I mean look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
Carr explained: "There's actions we can take on licensed broadcasters. ... 'We're not gonna run Kimmel anymore...because we licensed broadcasters are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC.'"

There's always a tweet.

mark46 · Sep 18, 2025

Yes, I agree that to 2025 Republicans, Hillary is far left as is Obama. I cannot help but laugh. One might ask Sanders about this. Hillary was as centrist as her husband, and much more allied with the inside party regulars. Obama was the darling of the bankers and the deporter-in-chief. He refused to push universal health care (the Clinton solution). Instead, he pushed the MA Republican idea of Romney (I know, left-of-center-Romney).
His views were so centrist that he easily reelected.

But then, for the 2025 Republicans, McCain, Romney, Dole, the Bush's, and anyone who disagrees with the policies of the current administration is far left.
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There are really no centrists in today's politics. That simply isn't allowed by Trump, his MAGA base, and those who he forces to follow him (well, follow him or lose their positions).

If Hailey were running against Vance, is there any question with regard to her being attacked as unacceptably too far left?

Chesterton · Sep 18, 2025

Robban said:
So what`s new?

Acts 17:21

17:16 and chapter out is telling

Do you / have you read the New Testament?

timothyu · Sep 18, 2025

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
why shouldn't we assume cranial binding was a thing?

Perhaps because that might open a whole can of worms and people prefer to be deluded so they don't have to face other possibilities

Warden_of_the_Storm · Sep 18, 2025

timothyu said:
Why assume binding?

Because we have no genetic evidence. And since we have evidence from across the world that shows cranial deformation with no markers for it being caused genetically and we also have evidence of it being down to other parts of the body ala feet binding, even to outright evidence of it occurring in twentieth century France, why shouldn't we assume cranial binding was a thing?

johnnypapa · Sep 18, 2025

I’ve been traveling through Utah the past week, at times along some of the paths they forged, which eventually turned into the Old Spanish Trail. It’s some of the most simply stunning land on God’s earth.

Untimely Meditations in Utah - The Catholic Thing

Robert Royal: Immersed in the Southwest's beauty, one wonders what turned Charlie Kirk's assassin from such high and uplifting things.

www.thecatholicthing.org

keras · Sep 18, 2025

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
Oh OK, I must have come into the thread late. I just figured it was Keras...

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

A Jewish Redemption?
In Romans 11:28-32: it does say some of the Jewish people will receive God's mercy, despite their continued rejection of Jesus. Romans 9:27
There will be two main criteria for this:
1/ They must be actual members of the House of Judah. Not those who call themselves Jews, but are not. Revelation 2:9
2/ They must show true repentance and remorse, as Jeremiah 12:14-16 tells us:..... I will have pity on them [Judah] and bring them back to their Land, if they learn the ways of My People, [Christians] and swear allegiance to My Name.
Note; the remnant Jews will be so ashamed of their errors, they will keep very quiet. Ezekiel 16:63

However; the main Christian peoples who will go to live in all of the holy Land after the Lord has cleared and cleansed it, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Revelation 6:12, will mostly be descendants of the ten Northern tribes; the House of Israel, joined by every faithful Christian from every race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 5:9-10
This will fulfil God's promise to the Patriarchs, that their descendants will inherit the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

mark46 · Sep 18, 2025

childeye 2 said:
From reading this post, I'd say you're a victim of propaganda because of sentiments like --> "In fact the democratic views on immigration, obsessiveness with cultural issues, and soft on crime stances, all progressive and far left stances, lost the party many votes in the last election".

I'm a centrist. My advice is that voters should not give much clout into one side's description of what the other side is all about. Typically, a candidates own words show us who they are and what's in their hearts and minds. @NxNW is correct; Democrats tend to lean left, and Republicans tend to lean right in this dichotomy --> Democracy/autocracy.

I strongly disagee that a candidate's words show who they are and what is their hearts and minds.

Much, much, much more important is what a candidate has done. Action do indeed speak much louder than words.

I do agree with your point that we shouldn't allow an opponent's statements to define a candidate. However, I think that many times it is the candidate's own failures in actions and in responding words that result in the real problem.

The Barbarian · Sep 18, 2025

Michie said:
In moments like this, true leadership is not reactive—it is reflective. Here’s how we can respond:

That makes a lot of sense.

Whether Kirk died as the result of political differences with extremist groups, or merely as the victim of a disturbed kid acting on his own, we can act like Christians and avoid calls for revenge.

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