B flat B♭
- By Apple Sky
- Conspiracy Theories
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Satellite dishes point at satellites. The clue is in the name
Well - I would never have guessed.
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B flat B♭
- By Apple Sky
- Conspiracy Theories
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You're the one denying the existence of satellites
I think 'strong in him' mean't satellite dishes, as nope, I have never seen a satellite in the sky.
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Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?
- By Hentenza
- Sabbath and The Law
- 392 Replies
Wow, you quoted 4 words out of my post and you claim that you are refuting what I write? That’s a joke, right? Here is my post 368 in full.
“nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.”
Galatians 2:16 NASB2020
“For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a violator of the Law, your circumcision has turned into uncircumcision. So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will his uncircumcision not be regarded as circumcision? And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a violator of the Law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from people, but from God.”
Romans 2:25-29 NASB2020
Circumcision is of the heart NOT if the letter of the law. Read the chapter to understand the author’s context and intention.
Non dodge whatsoever. My post was quite long and contained several verses but you only quoted a couple of sentences and do not address my argument. So who is dodging.
And you continue to get it wrong.
It is quite clear but you are arguing the wrong side of the verse.
“But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, but it is the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe;
The verse is very clear that APART from the law the righteousness of God has been revealed. Did you get that part “apart from the law”?
Your secular definition of righteousness falls in light of the redemptive sacrifice of our Lord.
This is about the birth of John the Baptist. How do these verses help you? Jesus was not even born yet so of course they were still under the law. Proper application of the elements of hermeneutics is important.
“For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.”
Romans 3:28 NASB2020
Romans 3:28 (NASB2020) - For we maintain that a person is ju | YouVersion
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.bible.com
Are you suggesting that Paul and James are in tension? You are divorcing the context from the verse to attempt to teach what it does not teach?
“Was our father Abraham not justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called a friend of God.”
James 2:21-23 NASB2020
James 2:21-23 (NASB2020) - Was our father Abraham not justifie | YouVersion
Was our father Abraham not justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Sbible.com
“For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the person to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, And whose sins have been covered. “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.” Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, “Faith was credited to Abraham as righteousness.””
Romans 4:2-9 NASB2020
Romans 4:2-8 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now to | New American Standard Bible - NASB
For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now tobible.com
Are these verses contradicting each other? Of course not. It is your interpretation that creates the tension that should not be there. In general, Paul teaches justification while James teaches sanctification. Paul is speaking of God’s legal declaration of us as righteous as Christ’s righteousness is applied to our account. James is using the word justified to mean “being demonstrated and proved.”
James 2:14-26 is about proving the genuineness of your faith by what you do. A genuine salvation experience by faith in Jesus Christ will inevitably result in good works (Eph. 2:10) but not the works of the law.
I addressed this in my post 324 which you dodged.
Your interpretation puts them in tension. Here Paul is clearly and emphatically stating that only through faith is a person justified. He repeats it again in Gal. 2:16.
“nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.”
Galatians 2:16 NASB2020
Galatians 2:16 nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and no | New American Standard Bible - NA
nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and no
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Once again quote mining and isolation leads to error every time. Thus chapter us about God’s impartiality with regards to the Jews (circumcised) and the gentiles (uncircumcised). Keep reading to get what Paul is actually saying.
“For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a violator of the Law, your circumcision has turned into uncircumcision. So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will his uncircumcision not be regarded as circumcision? And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a violator of the Law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from people, but from God.”
Romans 2:25-29 NASB2020
Romans 2:25-29 (NASB2020) - For indeed circumcision is of value | YouVersion
For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a violator of the Law, your circumcision has turned into uncircumcision. So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements
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Circumcision is of the heart NOT if the letter of the law. Read the chapter to understand the author’s context and intention.
Here Paul is talking about the works of the law. Following the law is a work.
Doesn’t have to. If Jesus so clearly stated that Salvation is by faith and not by works then the works of the law are part of these works just as Abraham was saved by his faith not by his works.
Jesus came to refute those that peddled the law for the sake of their traditions. Paul nailed the law, all of it, to the cross. None of it is required of the Christian.
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