jacorian said:

Alright is there anyone out there with some depth of knowledge b/c of this question: why does God let good people die? Meaning if you look back over the history of humankind, from the apostles to the saints, to religious preachers, to well-meaning leaders or icons, they're always gunned down. This makes it hard to poke the darkness with rays of light. It appears to me that Satan is winning. Just listened to this query on Utube given by an atheist & of course the comeback line is there is no God. We see the big loss not only that the voice is shut down & a family is left with burdens now but this was a source of hope against the evil in this world.

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This is a fallen world.

If good people lived and only bad people died, it would not be a fallen world, it would be a naturally just world.

But because it is a fallen world, it is not a just world by nature.

NxNW said:

If you can find a medical book using that term, I'd be interested to see it. As far as I can tell, it's just a made-up term to get people emotional.

You'll note that it says "so-called".

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NxNW said:

If you can find a medical book using that term, I'd be interested to see it. As far as I can tell, it's just a made-up term to get people emotional.

You'll note that it says "so-called".

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The organization I am citing may be biased towards your perspective but at least their data acknowledges that many people have very serious different views. These are views on life itself and Christianity is pro life. There may be harsh social conditions that require coping with realities in a fallen world ( accepting Roe v Wade in secular law & practical empathy) but spiritually it is a sin.

Platte said:

thats your argument for not taking the 6 days of Creation literally?

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No. All scientific data shows the earth to be a lot older than that. Yeah, I know, you don't like science. But you don't like Scripture much either, when it says that a "day" in God's God's reckoning is incomparably longer than an earthly solar day. "1000 years is as a watch in the night", and "1000 years is as a day, and a day is as 1000 years". You just waive that Scripture of because it doesn't suit your doctrine. You also don't accept the Genesis account as to when The Sun, or any "sun", for that matter, is created. You just make up your own fictional "pre sun" to make your rubbish doctrine "work".

Platte said:

Yes and Adam would have taken longer than a day to be a fully grown adult.

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One of your "days" or one of God's days? They'ew obviously not the same thing.

Platte said:

I'm sorry - and how does "gravity" affect Scripture.

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Gravity is just a theory, innit? THerefore it doesn't count. Right? <Laugh>

Platte said:

When let go of an object in my hand - it will drop....that is a fact.

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Nah, that's gravity, and gravity is merely a theory. That's your understanding of "science" isn't it?

Platte said:

The theory is we don't know for a fact why that happens.

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Therefore gravity may be safely ignored, right?

Platte said:

Are you referring to the "light" that I made up that God saw in Genesis 1:4?

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Nope, I'm talkuing about the fictional "sun" you made up to provide "evenings and mornings" before the real aun was created.

Platte said:

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

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That's good. Now, what constitutes an "evening" or a "morning"? The existence of light somewhere, or the earths position in relation to the sun? (BTW, I expect yet another bit of creative cosmology at this point, <Laugh>)

The most egregious bit of chicanery here is the outright denial of the understanding of "God's time" vs. human/solar time". You give the metaphorical rigid digit to both St Peter and Moses, cavalierly casting aside as worthless their explantion of God's reckoning of time. Your respect for these mighty men of God only only extends to such times as what they said suits your purpose in supporting your specious doctrine.

timewerx said:

Another person in my place could probably work two jobs, take care of a child as a single parent, lead community activities, and work on the invention at the same time. I just not that person I'm unable to focus on many things at once, it's my weakness. I have prayed to the Lord about it over and over, to give me strength and energy, tried my best to have faith but He's not granting me that prayer. Maybe the Lord have other plans for me.

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You should start a gofundme. Or a kickstarter campaign.

Hans Blaster said:

No, of course not.

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why aren’t you a Christian?

essentialsaltes said:

I have the liberty to do so.

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Why aren’t you Christian?

Freth said:

From a Biblical standpoint, I don't think anything man can do one way or another is going to stop prophesied events from taking place. When the last events start happening, climate change will be the least of our worries.

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OR hasten it, even fulfill those prophesies.

Imagine what superpowers like USA or China can do if they have engines to power their war machines that only uses air for fuel? Or Russia for that matter.

ThatRobGuy said:

Some some of that we ("we" meaning society as a whole) have brought on ourselves to a degree.

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I think it’s part of being human. Dishonest propaganda has been a thing since basically forever.

Whilst trimming down one of the bushes in my garden, I managed to slice my finger! Finally managed to stop the bleeding. The bad news is that there are spots of blood all over my garden and patio. The good news is it has started to rain!

Chesterton said:

He's been a political prisoner of a dystopian police state.

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So he is innocent of all the crimes he has been convicted?

His history of hooliganism, violence, fraudulism and stalking of young women is a matter of public record.

His real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon but he changed it to avoid police detection, commit mortgage fraud and enter America illegally.

Do you know anything about this man? He was a member of the British Fascist Party the BNP. Again, this is all public information; yet you call him a political prisoner?

If Britain so dystopian why is he currently at large staging protests in London over this very weekend. It’s been televised. He’s had Elon Musk as a guest speaker. He’s been on stage freely promoting his ideas.

And you know what? In the dystopian UK he did all that without being murdered. Unlike what has recently happened to a guy just talking on stage in the apparent utopian state of America.

Maybe look to you own dysfunctional country before you bemoan another’s.

essentialsaltes said:

'They' in those cases are the content creators voluntarily choosing to do so, e.g. through the MPA for film. These are not required by law or lawmakers.

The MPA rating system is a voluntary scheme that is not enforced by law;

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I'm okay with Google, X, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok and the other major platforms doing that (in a joking manner so don't take it too serious but I'm okay with the government (or everyday normal citizens) twisting a couple of arms at those platforms to get the ball rolling).

Gregory Thompson said:

My issue is not listed, it's not common. I do share when I can though.

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If you tell me, maybe I can add it.

SCATTERED AMONG THE NATIONS :
Ancient Israel did not do as the Lord had commanded them. They worshipped idols and rebelled against His Laws. Ezekiel 12:1 So the Lord sent them into exile – Ezekiel 12:3, for a decreed time period; Ezekiel 4:4-6 Before this happened, the Israelites had split into two kingdoms; then the House of Israel, was taken into exile by Assyria, and the House of Judah, deported by Babylon. Deuteronomy 4:27

What happened to them and the land?
Ezekiel 6:8-14 Among the nations, there will be those of you who have survived the sword and are scattered in foreign lands. They will remember Me while in exile and they will loath themselves for the evil they have done.
Remember the Lord, that is: become Christians.

You will know that My threats were not in vain. Justice will be done. Nahum 1:2-3
Cry in pain, because of your wickedness, people of Israel. You will die by sword, famine and plague. Black Death, civil wars, world wars, starvation, etc.
So, I will spend My wrath upon them. Your Land will become a desolation.
Travellers in the 1800’s were amazed at the awful conditions in the Middle East of desertification, still today; with water shortages and continuing strife.

In Ezekiel chapter 11, after the House of Israel had been exiled, Ezekiel is prophesying to the leaders of Judah. In verses 1 to 13, he says that Judah too, will be conquered. Then in verse 15, he mentions their brothers and kinsmen, [the House of Israel, then in Northern Assyria] to whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem say: They are separated far from the Lord, the land has been made over to us [Jews] to possess.

Ezekiel 11:16-44 Say therefore, When I dispersed them over the earth, I became their sanctuary in the countries where they have gone. I shall gather you from among the nations and I shall give the Land of Israel to you. Judah has come back, but in apostasy.
They will abolish all idols and vile practices. Not done yet.
I will give them a new heart and a new spirit. Wait for it!
They will keep My laws and I will be their God. Great will be the Day!

Go you Israelites and serve your idols! But in days to come I will punish you.
On My holy mountain in the Land, the whole [peoples] of Israel will serve Me.
I will accept you, when I have brought you out of all the places where you were sent.
I will bring you into the Land which I promised to the forefathers.
You will remember your past and will hate yourselves for it.
You will know that I am the Lord when I deal with you, not as you really deserve, but as the honour of My holy Name demands.

But now, as we approach the end times, we see a Jewish restoration, but in unbelief. Zechariah 12:7 The Lord will free Judah first, for their greater glory. The State of Israel, now in a part of the holy Land, but they still reject their Messiah and now face another Judgement; the third swing of the Sword. Ezekiel 21:1-14

The forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath is also the judgement of Judah, as in:
Amos 2:4-5, Jer. 13:19, Zeph. 1:4-6, Obadiah 1:12-16, Isaiah 4:3-4, Matthew 21:41-43

Ezekiel 20:46-47 O man, turn toward the South, prophesy to the desert of the Negev. The Lord God says: I am about to kindle a fire in you. Its fiery flame will not be put out; everyone to the North will be scorched by it. Zephaniah 1:14-18
The Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, Revelation 6:12-17

Isaiah 63:4 I resolved on a Day of vengeance, the year for redeeming My own has come.
I stamped on peoples in My anger and their blood poured out on the ground. Psalms 110

This event will depopulate most of the Middle East, leaving the way for His people; Israel: the descendants of Jacob, plus those grafted in, mostly from the nominally Christian nations, still scattered around the world, to gather in the ‘wilderness’:

Ezekiel 20:34-38 By My strong arm and outpoured wrath, I shall bring you out from the peoples and gather you from the lands where you were dispersed.
I shall confront you and bring you to judgement. Those who rebel will remain in the desert.

Who are the Israelites? Certainly, some must be ethnic descendants of the Patriarchs’, as in:-
Amos 9:8-9 I shall not totally destroy Jacobs posterity. I will shake Israel among the nations and not one pebble will fall to the ground.

Isaiah 14:1 The Lord will again show compassion for Jacob [the 12 tribes of Israel] and will once again make Israel His choice. He will resettle them on their native soil and aliens will join them.
Peoples from every race, nation and language. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9

All faithful Christians have the wonderful promises of the New Testament:-
Acts 2:39 This promise is to you and your children, to all who are far away, to everyone whom the Lord may call.

Luke 12:32-40 Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has chosen to give you the Kingdom. Sell your possessions, give to charity. Provide for yourselves treasure [rewards] in Heaven. Be ready for action. Be like a servant, ready to let your Master in as soon as He knocks.
Happy are those servants whom the Master finds awake when He comes. Truly, I tell you, He will seat you at the table and wait on you.
If it is midnight or before dawn and you are still awake, then great will be your reward.
Remember, if the householder had known when a thief would come, he would have stopped him.
So, be ready for the Son of Man will come when you least expect Him.
This refers to the Lord’s Day of fiery wrath, not His Return, when He will be expected, as the armies of the Anti-Christ attack Jerusalem. Revelation 19:19
Reference; Revised English Bible, some verses condensed.

Sir Joseph said:

I don't want to argue with atheists or misguided Christians holding firm evolutionary beliefs.

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I don't mind arguing with atheists or misguided Christians holding firm YEC beliefs. I don't convert many, but even a few is worth the effort. And honestly, God doesn't care if you approve of the way He created things. YECs, unless they make an idol of their beliefs, are no less Christians than the rest of us.

Servus said:

It's noticeable that media outlets such as MSNBC and CNN have remained silent about this so far. And it's not hard to figure out why.

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Apparently in "The People's Republic of Trump" the sexual orientation of Robinson's partner is front page news - Trump and his supporters, in their infinite wisdom, have managed to turn Kirk's death into a "3 Ring Circus" while elevating him to "SAINTHOOD" status!

Meanwhile its left to the Governor of Utah to act "presidential" - while the President in the White House is fanning the flames of an already incendiary situation, blaming all the nation's problems on "LEFTIST EXTREMISTS" because "RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS" are only interested in enforcing existing laws!

"Trumpworld" is oblivious to the fact that 3 months earlier, on June 14th 2025, a 57 year old Lance Boelter, an Evangelical Christian and Trump supporter impersonated a police office to gain access to the home l of a Democratic Minnesota State Senator - shooting him 9x and his wife 8X as they used their bodies as shields to protect their daughter!

He then proceeded to the residence of a Minnesota State Representative and Head of the Democratic House Caucus where he assassinated both her and her husband!

Boelter then went to a 3rd home, that of another Democratic Minnesota State Senator - fortunately the family was away on vacation!

Undeterred, this assassin went to a 4th resident, the home of another Democratic Minnesota State Senator, but by that time the police had been alerted - they arrived just in time to deter Boelter from continuing with his rampage!

When finally apprehended, police found in his vehicle a list of approximately 70 names, that Boelter had created, of prominent Democrats and Pro-choice supporters that given the chance, he was prepared to eliminate!

While living in Sheboygan Wisconsin, for several years, Vance Boelter and his wife founded an evangelical nonprofit, "Revoformation Ministries!"
They claimed to have "sought out militant Islamists" in the West Bank and Gaza during the Second Intifada "to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer".

Right-wing misinformation​

1) many prominent right-wing and far-right figures falsely claimed that the suspect, Vance Boelter, was left-wing, a Democrat, and an ally of the Democratic Minnesota Governor

2) Elon Musk shared tweets saying that "the left" had killed the Minnesota State Representative and Head of the Democratic House Caucus and tweeted, "The far left is murderously violent."

3) U.S. senator Mike Lee tweeted multiple times that the suspect was a "Marxist" and blamed the assassination on the Democratic Minnesota Governor

4) Donald Trump Jr.claimed the suspect "seems to be a leftist" and "was a Democrat".

5) U.S. Senator Bernie Moreno and U.S. representative Derrick Van Orden both suggested that the shooter was a far-left extremist.

6) large right-wing social media accounts began spreading similar misinformation.
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7) right-wing commentator Mike Cemovich suggested that Minnesota Governor had ordered the assassinations

8) Laura Loomer called Boelter one of "the Minnesota Governor's goons" and called for the Governor to be "detained" and "interrogated" by the FBI.[

9) YouTuber Benny Johnson claimed the suspect was an associate of the Minnesota Governor

10) other posts falsely claimed that a photo of a man at a "No Kings Protest" in Texas was that of the suspect.

11) The Guardian called this "the latest example of a right-wing media ecosystem that swiftly spins up narratives that serve their political agendas after tragic events, regardless of accuracy, and does not correct them after further information shows them to be untrue or incomplete".

12) after it became known that the suspect was a Trump voter, unsubstantiated claims that the killings were a "false flag" by the "DEEP STATE" and a "psyop" spread on social media.
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13) Alex Jones claimed Boelter was a "patsy" who was "being framed"

14) Laura Loomer suggested that Boelter was not the actual perpetrator.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP

FreeinChrist said:

I watched a video the other day where farmer after farmer talked about how Trump has closed markets, and that their farms are going belly up, even though the crop is good. My husband trades on the stock market and thinks, along with his paid advice, that we are already in a recession and that we have stagflation. It will get worse.

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A lot of those now defunct US Aid programs were as much for the benefit of farmers as for the hungry.

Maybe all those containers of open pollinated seeds preppers bought will come in handy if they don't expire.

Bradskii said:

Yeah. Like them.

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I'm not sure if there's specific laws on buying bombs. Do you know anywhere that sells them? I can then check.

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There are restrictions on who can buy dynamite and other explosives. They also track who buys large quantities of bomb-making supplies such as nitrogen - not necessarily prohibited, but definitely tracked. Don't make the farmers irate!