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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By BCP1928
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 1355 Replies
I happened across an unchainedx video while I was scrolling YouTube this morning. Watched part of it, decided it wasn't good enough for the History Channel.
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Congrats Coast Guard and Operation Pacific Viper
- By Vambram
- American Politics
- 15 Replies
US military seized survivors after Caribbean drone strike on suspected drug smuggling boat
The Trump administration conducted a sixth deadly drone strike against suspected drug vessel, killing at least one and capturing survivors in the Caribbean.
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ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in US illegally
- By BCP1928
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 20 Replies
The thing is, we don't know what kind of checking was done. In any case, there are two propositions on the table here:Isn't all of Illinois a "sanctuary state"?
With laws that restrict certain information sharing between state and federal agencies?
Illinois Sanctuary Law Under Fire - Immigration Reform Law Institute
IRLI demonstrates fatal conflict with federal law WASHINGTON—Yesterday, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) filed a brief in an Illinois federal district court attacking Illinois’ TRUST Act, a law barring state law enforcement officers from cooperating and sharing information with...www.irli.org
Action by a government employer in Illinois Allowed? Authority Asking about immigration status in an interview form ❌ Generally prohibited EO 2021-17; TRUST Act policy Asking if the applicant is a U.S. citizen (for a non-federal, non-security job) ⚠️ Risky — generally discouraged EO 2021-17; IHRA Asking citizenship status if a federal contract or security clearance requires it ✅ Allowed / required Federal requirement exception Sharing an applicant’s immigration info with ICE or DHS without judicial warrant ❌ Forbidden TRUST Act §25
For example, in looking at some local municipalities here in Ohio, their questionnaires on the applications follow the pattern of
A) Are you a US citizen?
B) If yes, were you born in the United States?
If not born in the United States, which country were you born in, and what was your naturalization date?
1. That he was hired intentionally because he was known to be an illegal alien.
2. That he was hired accidently because of inadequate background checking.
I realize that the third possibility, that ICE is wrong about his immigration status, cannot be entertained.
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ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in US illegally
- By iluvatar5150
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
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Are you just constantly stretching things these days to paint libs as bad guys?I was referring more to background check part (that gets requested from NICS which gets data from the FBI and state agencies, and in turn, the FBI has hooks into other countries background check data when applicable if there's data sharing agreements) -- For example, my one buddy who's originally from the UK always takes a little longer to get his background checks approved for firearm purchases, because they have to check everything they normally would, plus wait for the UK to provide any pertinent check data from his time living over there.
As far as the work authorization mishap...
That could tie a little more into the "sanctuary" aspect.
Welcoming City Ordinance Explainer - 40th Ward of Chicago
Chicago has proudly operated as a sanctuary city since 1985. But what does that mean, exactly? Below, get answers on some of your most common questions about the Welcoming City Ordinance. What does the Welcoming City Ordinance do? The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things: What does the...40thward.org
The Welcoming City Ordinance does three things:
- it prohibits any City employee from asking about or assisting in the investigation of the immigration status of anyone, unless ordered to do so by court or federal law
- it prevents city services from being denied to anyone on the basis of their immigration status.
- it prohibits the Chicago Police Department from participating in or cooperating with federal civil immigration enforcement, unless they are required to do so by a court or federal law.
in reading up on it a little more, there's seems to be a disconnect between work authorizations and legal immigration status (in that they exist in different databases)
So if he had work authorization docs that appeared to be valid, but city employees are prohibited from asking questions about peoples' immigration status, you can see how that one may have slipped through the cracks.
This ordinance is obviously about city services, not employment, for which federal law does require them to verify employment status (which is tied to citizenship). Here's the City of Chicago's (which, again, is not Hanover Park) careers page:
The first two prep items they list for prospective applicants are Proof of Eligibility and Residency:
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Hold The Line The King Is Coming
- By Hazelelponi
- Christian Music
- 6 Replies
"My sheep hear my voice."
( This is not His voice)
I understand your concern, but I don’t see why this song should be dismissed as unchristian.
While the lyrics are written in poetic form, they actually draw heavily from biblical imagery. For instance, the “sword” is a direct allusion to the the Word of God (Ephesians 6:17). and “trimming our wicks” recalls the parable of the ten virgins, where Christ calls us to be watchful and ready for His return (Matthew 25:1-13).
The call to “hold the line” simply expresses perseverance in faith—what Scripture elsewhere calls “standing firm” in the Lord (Philippians 1:27; 1 Corinthians 16:13). The Apostle Paul himself often used the language of warfare to describe the Christian life, reminding believers that “we do not wrestle against flesh and blood” but are to take up the armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-18).
From an amillennial perspective, the “battle” depicted in the song corresponds well to the Church’s ongoing struggle throughout this present age—the period between Christ’s ascension and His glorious return. The lyrics emphasize faithfulness during tribulation, and the triumphant note about “the King coming” clearly points toward the Second Coming of Christ, not human strength.
So while I’d phrase a few lines differently, I find the overall message biblically consistent and spiritually encouraging: it’s a call to endurance, vigilance, and hope in Christ’s victory.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By BCP1928
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 1355 Replies
The Naqada were a late neolithic culture. By then, most of the technological developments on which civilizations rest were in place: plant and animal breeding, cordage and textiles, fired ceramics, basic wood, stone and metal work (including alloying and heat treating) and the wheel. I suppose if you want to call that technological level "primitive" you can, but the rest of us will just think you're being silly.
Why would it have lots of wobble?Yes there is. Not just the biblical flood but every flood story from all cultures. Are you saying they just purely made this up. Like hey we need to create a false story to make out religion more interesting.
No all these cultures are basing their flood myths on a real flood event. In fact we have evidence for massive flooding around 8,000 to 14,000 years ago that had mega flooding. We see the evidence in the landscape. Scientific studies have been done.
The question is why would not ancient culture at that time who survived or who were decendents of the people of that time not create a story about such an event.
Yes, Noah's Flood May Have Happened, But Not Over the Whole Earth
Yes, Noah's Flood May Have Happened, But Not Over the Whole Earth | National Center for Science Education
Introduction The Bible (Genesis 6–9) describes a worldwide flood (the Noachian Flood) covering even the highest mountains of the earth and the construction of a huge boat (a rectangular box-like craft) that transported animals, at least two of a kind of all land animals on the earth.ncse.ngo
Now if this mega flood happened locally why would cultures not record such an event. Its based on a real event. Just like the possibility that during those mega floods a city that was well advanced in that time or looked upon as a great city that was looked to was then wiped out in a relatively short time. Then as time goes by this becomes legend.
This is what I am talking about with hard or hyper skepticism that it even blinds people from the real possibility that these legends are based on real events that may be the basis. All the cultures themselves and not the so called whackos are the ones saying these ancients had advanced knowledge that could create these great works.
The hard skeptics are actually the ones relegating these ancients to certain ways by insisting that all these myths and legands are make believe and not based on some reality.
Lol I just told you I never said that they actually had CNC maching and you double down. Typical. You can't handle dealing with the hard evidence in the ground.
Ok at least the idea of vases being traded is attempting to link them back to a culture who may have had the ability to make them. Which supports that some sort of turning was involved and not just by hands.
But even then at 3,600BC the potters wheel that existed in Mesopotamia was the slow version that had lots of wobble.
"Lost technology from some ancient vanished culture," a culture which you cannot name or describe. At least Atlantis has a name.
What conspiracy?
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