RileyG said:

What’s wrong with going to Church or the nuclear family? Of course, we have evolved much as a society and minorities are treated better, which is incredibly positive.

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And much of the fact that they are is due to religious people. You can't forget that Christians were also opposed to slavery and Jim Crow. Even in the south. Was it big in the south, no, but there were those that fought against it.

Religion: Christianity v. Jim Crow

In other places Christians supported civil rights and the ending of Jim Crow.

Is anyone here an expert of digestion and digestive health? How does water help digestion?

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

Sweat, tears, urine and blood are all essentially water with extra ingredients in them.

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That makes sense and it's not surprising.

Xeno.of.athens said:

[NRSVUE 2tim 3:1-5] 1 Godlessness in the Last Days You must understand this, that in the last days distressing times will come. 2 For people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unfeeling, implacable, slanderers, profligates, brutes, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to the outward form of godliness but denying its power. Avoid them!

What do you think about that?

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That sounds like much of humanity! We ALL sin, but we are called to repentance!

o_mlly said:

Did you not read the post? I expressly invited readers to "imagine".

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Yes, I read it. As I said, I much more interested in discussing data and scientific reasoning than in fictional scenarios.

o_mlly said:

Here's some mathematical evidence:

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No, it really isn't. That's a rambling (loooong and rambling) attack on evolution by non-experts(*) using the kind of really bad argument I mentioned previously. In this case, they're making the same fundamental error that was in the last paper you linked to: calculating the probability of evolution producing a given outcome while assuming that it's aiming for that outcome, i.e. that evolution has a target. It is, again, a very bad model for the actual process described by evolutionary biology.

(*) I believe one is a toxicologist and one an engineer (civil? mechanical? I forget -- I looked him up this morning).

KEN KLIPPENSTEIN has some discord chats with the killer (some profanity, duh). Very little political in the content. Childhood friend also says he was largely apolitical. Bisexual, 'open' on LGBT issues, pro 2A.

Kilppenstein opines that he may go down as a Nihilist Violent Extremist.

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Meanwhile...

FBI ‘running down’ more than 20 Discord users in Kirk shooting probe: Patel​

Vambram said:

Biden White House gave Trump, Pence cellphones to FBI as part of agency’s ‘gotcha scheme’ probing 2020 election

The Biden White House turned over government cellphones belonging to President Donald Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence to the FBI in May 2022 as part of a bureau probe into the aftermath …

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FBI ‘Arctic Frost’ probe targeted nearly 100 GOP groups — including Charlie Kirk’s TPUSA: docs

“Arctic Frost wasn’t just a case to politically investigate Trump,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said. “It was the vehicle by which partisan FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors could a…

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Thank you, Senator Grassley for revealing the truth about Biden's weaponized FBI.

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I'm glad evidence is disclosed; but I'll bet no one will be prosecuted.

Brightfame52 said:

He Loved the elect in the world

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That's not what it says. It says He loved the world. And the context shows that the world included those who were in spiritual darkness. A vast majority of the world was in spiritual darkness before Jesus came. As Paul said, the Gentiles were "without God in the world" before Jesus came and shed His blood to bring them near (Ephesians 2:11-13). That's why Jesus came. How can you not know that? You are blatantly twisting scripture to make it say what you want it to say.

Sweat, tears, urine and blood are all essentially water with extra ingredients in them.

“The entire body of Catholic social teaching can be summarized in one phrase: no human person is a problem. To reduce s person to a problem is to offend their dignity.” Archbishop Thomas Wenski

Dan Perez said:

And I read Eph 2:19 and 20. and are you sure you wrote the right verses. ??

And I know of. that verse in Matt 18:18 but asked him what CHURCH is verse 19. what does the KEYS. to. the Kingdom

mean and what doe Bind and Loose. .MEAN ??

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I answered that already. Did you not read my posts? I have nothing more to add than what I've already said. You are not easy to follow, so I answered based on what I think you are asking and that's all I can do.

I turn 30 in exactly 3 weeks!

October 8th!

Spiritual Jew said:

Wrong. How could he have been born again yet at that time when he didn't even understand what it meant to be born again? Why are you okay with just making things up and denying obvious truth like this?

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Nobody knows when they are born again, or understands it. Its a spiritual miracle in the heart and subconscious.

RandyPNW said:

Nowhere in the Scriptures do we see the word "two Israels."

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Do we see the words "natural Israel" or "true Israel"? No. Yet, you used those words to explain your understanding of Romans 9:6-8. So, your comment here is completely pointless. It's silly to think that unless something is explicitly stated in scripture, it can't be true. All of us believe some things that are implied in scripture rather than being explicitly spelled out, including you.

RandyPNW said:

Not at all. There is one group of Christians in our church. Some are faithful, and some are not. This does not make our church "two churches."

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Do you refer to them as the true or faithful church and the untrue or unfaithful church? I doubt it. So, why do you refer to "natural Israel" and "true Israel" when you don't believe in two Israels?

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Israel is one nation. Some are faithful, and some are not. The fact that only some are faithful does not make them "two Israels" or "two nations." You are arguing something that does not follow or is irrational, to fit your theology.

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So, why do you refer to "true Israel" and "natural Israel" separately then? Why can't you see how that comes across?

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I've had to explain to you that the fact that there is a "true Israel" does not mean there is a "2nd Israel."

I'm not talking about them as a "separate entity." Rather, I'm speaking of a single entity with one group being faithful and one group being unfaithful. The fact I group them as such is not creating separate "entities."

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It would be more clear if you referred to the faithful among Israel and the unfaithful among Israel or something like that instead of referring to "true Israel" (or "faithful Israel") and "natural Israel". That comes across as two different Israels whether you intend that or not.

RandyPNW said:

That isn't true. God called Israel to have faith even before they fully had it--some didn't get it at all. Those who proved to be faithless were cut off.

But the fact they were "Israel" before they were cut off indicates that they were not named Israel strictly because they had faith initially. The entire *nation* was called Israel, and the entire nation was called to have faith.

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Come on, Randy. I'm talking about how things are NOW and in the New Testament era. I understand things were different 2,000+ years ago. But, Paul plainly said that those who have faith are God's children (Galatians 3:26). It's not about nationality, it's about whether someone has a personal relationship with Jesus/God or not that determines if someone is a child of God.

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They were Israel before they had yet proved whether they would be faithful or not. Their initial faithfulness was simply the choice to leave Egypt together to find God's Law on the mountain.

Many Jews today are in the same position of wanting to know what God wants of their nation. They have chosen to gather together with other Jews, viewing their elect culture to be worth gathering with.

They should be properly called "Israel," regardless of whether they are Christians. That is the normal definition of "Israel."

Don't agree. Israel is "Israel" before they have Christian faith. That has always been true.

Being "children" is different from being "Israel."

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In Romans 9:6 Paul said they are not all Israel who physically descend from Israel and he expanded on that in verse 7 by saying "Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children". So, he clearly was referring to Israel in the sense of it not being based on physically descending from the nation of Israel or physically descending from Abraham. Then, he explained what he meant in different words in verse 8 by saying "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.". So, you saying "being "children" is different from being "Israel"" requires you to completely ignore what Paul said in Romans 9:6-8. He associated the Israel from which not all who are physically descended from Israel or from Abraham are part with being the children of God and the children of the promise with that making them counted for the seed of Abraham. So, being children is NOT different from being Israel (Spiritual or True Israel), according to Paul.

Lord, have mercy on your suffering servants!

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

Bruce Jenner/ Caitlyn Jenner is a Transgender female. Republican I know a gay people that are Trump supporters. I'm not sure why they voted for a Man, that doesn't respect them.

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Male who identifies as a transgendered woman.

Female refers to biological sex.

Jenner still has XY chromosomes, regardless of their identity.

Aldebaran said:

Whenever I see him with his family, I'm offended too. I mean, who wouldn't be offended at seeing this? Just horrible!View attachment 370185

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You do understand how people can find people offensive don’t you? Shall I explain? Or are you misunderstanding on purpose despite how detrimental it is to your credibility as a non-disingenuous poster?

Douggg said:

Is it good that we can all post our opinion and views, agreeing/disagreeing on various issues - but doing so in a friendly, respectful way.

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I just wonder how friendly and respectful Jesus will be toward those who preached and promoted false theories?

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 tells us that those who built their beliefs on a foundation other than Bible teachings, will be saved, but have to pass thru fire.
The Fire of God's rebuke.

Regarding the OP. - Daniel 11:40-45, is undoubtedly for the time of the end and Armageddon.

The state hasn't even presented a coherent narrative. We don't have the bullet, much less one matched to the gun. We don't have any clue how the gun got off the roof (the video supposedly showing the shooter on the roof doesn't seem to show him carrying a gun). Also, laser engraving of bullets by the suspect seems improbable (laser engraving of live rounds would be unsafe, and there's no evidence presented Tyler Robinson had access to reloading equipment). And we don't even have a clear motive for the alleged shooter (Robinson).

And within 45 minutes of Charlie Kirk being declared dead, we have Benjamin Netenyahu being the first to express his condolences. (desperate to shore up his withering relationship with the Alt Right?)

It doesn't add up to a coherent story that anybody that isn't gullible would be willing to believe. Which is why I think authorities are leaning so hard into politicizing the incident. Almost like it's a false flag operation.

Spiritual Jew said:

Why do you deny that the world that God so loved includes those who were in spiritual darkness? If the world that God so loved didn't include them then it couldn't be said that the light came into the world with some loving darkness instead of the light. The light shone upon the world that had been in almost complete spiritual darkness before Jesus came.

God so loved the world that was in spiritual darkness that He gave His only Son to die for the sins of the whole world that was in spiritual darkness, including all people in the world who were in spiritual darkness. The Calvinist interpretation of verses like John 3:16 and 1 John 2:1-2 is nothing more than a complete joke because it denies that "the world" and "the whole world" refers to all people even though it clearly does. Those who are in spiritual darkness are clearly part of the world that God so loves. Before Jesus came Paul indicated that the vast majority of the world, the Gentiles, were "without God in the world" (Ephesians 2:11-12). But, then God sent Jesus who has shone the light into the dark world that God loved so much to send His Son to die for their sins and give them all the opportunity to be saved and have eternal life.

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He Loved the elect in the world