Clare73 said:

Same guys who lied to get FISA warrants?

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Kevin Clinesmith resigned. I doubt he has any involvement in this. Now back to the topic.

RileyG said:

They’re just buzzwords. The reality is much darker.

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So more like code words for a larger agenda. Instead of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion we now hear LGBTQ rights. Affirmative action, gay pride, and hiw unjust we have been in the past?

essentialsaltes said:

Trump and Co’s extraordinary conflicts of interest in his second term​

The $Trump meme coin is an ethics regulator’s waking nightmare. There is little transparency around who is channelling money into it, and even less around the potentially nefarious motives of investors.

The same might be said about the Trumps’ other big crypto venture, World Liberty Financial, which was launched last September by Trump’s sons. The president himself is listed by the company as its “chief crypto advocate”.

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Giant Trump statue holding Bitcoin displayed outside US Capitol to mark Fed rate decision​

“The installation is designed to ignite conversation about the future of government-issued currency and is a symbol of the intersection between modern politics and financial innovation,” said Hichem Zaghdoudi, a representative of the collective of crypto investors who have funded this artistic installation.

Dan Perez said:

dan p

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And this is for Keras , and says the 1 Cor 15:51 and 52 HAPPRN. before the Millennial Kingdom !!
dan p

Tropical Wilds said:

Obligatory reminder that I'm a left-leaning moderate, not a woke, leftist, whatever whatever

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No. You are not.

rambot said:

And what about when those doctors get it wrong? Because for those intersexed kids, they sometimes do.

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DNA tests are pretty accurate dont you think? Kinda hard to get it wrong. But again, on those rare occasions, the doctor will make the decision based on a medical diagnosis, not because how the child was feeling that day. Now, back to reality.

Hentenza said:

I don’t fall for propaganda. If you think it is not true then argue the point.

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I'm a centrist. Therefore, I apply the left/right dichotomy to denote the objective view as being at the abstract center of two subjective yet equally valid opposite points of view. So, I will be arguing that what is on the left is Democracy and that autocracy is on the right; so as to denote the objective view of the delegation of power, or in other words the centralizing and decentralizing of power to set policy for all, reasoned n a true dichotomy. --> Democracy/Autocracy.

This was your statement: "In fact the democratic views on immigration, obsessiveness with cultural issues, and soft on crime stances, all progressive and far left stances, lost the party many votes in the last election". <-- As a centrist I would argue that this statement connotes a negative spin and that it's subjective.

What are the Democratic views on immigration? You don't actually say, but nonetheless, as it stands, your statement qualifies as a subjective negative view/imagery of the Democrats view. What is "obsessiveness" doing there in front of cultural issues? Would I find this term on the Democratic platform? Not likely. I am forced to ask myself whether this is pretextual.

The objective view would see cultural "obsessions" from both sides, without pretext. An obsessive cultural issue can also be observed in these sentiments from the autocratic side, "They're poisoning the blood of our country", and, "They're eating the dogs and the cats". <-- These are based in negative prejudice.

Finally, the "soft on crime" sentiment. <-- I don't think I will find this on the Democratic party platform either.

The fact is that the autocrat says he will be tough on the far-left radical groups who got Charlie Kirk killed. <--I'd say this is wacko and is far more serious an issue than "soft on crime".

Hentenza said:

These days democrats seem to lean far left and republicans seem to lean far right. Communication is hardly possible.

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People are easily deceived, I'm sorry to say. Social media makes money causing mayhem and Power is for sale in the marketplace.

dms1972 said:

"Apples for oranges" - what is that supposed to mean?

To be fair it was you who started the thread - and you have drawn a lot of opposition to your views, and you are still here 33 pages on arguing. What is the point? You thought you would win everyone to your standpoint?

Strict calvinism and strict arminianism are both theological aberrations and cannot be supported from Scripture. John Wesley was effective IMO because he wasn't a strict Arminian. CH Spurgeon was effective because he wasn't a strict Calvinist, as one can see from some of his sermons.

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It meant what I stated

concretecamper said:

Affording everyone Human dignity is a thing of both God and Caesar.

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Then what was the point of the “Render unto Caesar” post?

Oompa Loompa said:

I dont care.

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No one thinks you do.....

rambot said:

Funny. I can GUARANTEE that I understand my wife FAR better than her father ever did.

You think that being a parent automatically imbibes you full knowledge and understanding of your children?
Incorrect.

ESPECIALLY if you think that empathy is a problematic.

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Oh I bet. Going back on topic, I am sure Robinson's gay lover knew more about him and his hard leftist ideological tendencies and motivations than his parents. Why? Because Robinson kept them hidden from them.

Oompa Loompa said:

So? On those rare occasions, let the doctors decide. Until then, a child's biological sex/gender can be assigned at birth. Heck, it can be known before birth with an ultrasound.

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And what about when those doctors get it wrong? Because for those intersexed kids, they sometimes do.

What is washed in the Bible ?
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Praise from the Great Multitude
…13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” 14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15For this reason, they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.…
Berean Standard Bible · Download"

Larniavc said:

Why do you opine when you do not understand?

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I understand more about reality that a non-binary person. At least I know what men and women are and how to define them.

wing2000 said:

Disturbing....

Columnist David French writes:

On Friday, Kevin Wallsten, a political science professor at California State, Long Beach, wrote in The Wall Street Journal about the disturbing findings of a study he conducted. Luckily, Wallsten found, nearly 80 percent of Americans still believe that violence is “never acceptable” to stop free speech. Sadly, this percentage goes down in every generation — 93 percent of baby boomers and 86 percent of Gen X-ers reject violence, but only 71 percent of millennials and 58 percent of Gen Z-ers agree.

This statistic helps explain why there were people who actually celebrated Kirk’s death — they have rejected free speech so thoroughly that they were happy to see a bullet stop a conversation. They believe Kirk’s words merited a violent response and relished in the deadly results. The texts of the shooting suspect — in which he allegedly told his roommate, “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out” — suggest that he was one such person.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/opinion/trump-vance-bondi-douglassfree-speech.html

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it's a good piece

FireDragon76 said:

The Democrat party lost some long term credibility and has been floundering ever since Obama's decision to bail out the banks in 2009, but cultural issues weren't a major reason for Harris's loss (most Americans ignore cultural issues when it comes to voting, and vote based on perception of the economy).

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Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 aka "bank bailout of 2008" or the "Wall Street bailout" (Wikipedia) and TARP were Bush programs that carried over but TARP II was passed in 2009. Bush did the right thing to stabilize the economy.

o_mlly said:

Really? Got some evidence to support your claim?

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Yes, the absolute absence of citations or references to the article in any scientific journal related to biology, the absolute lack of any college biology program teaching its contents, and the absolute lack of any private bio firm incorporating the material into their work.

If you disagree and believe the article has had an impact in evolutionary biology, then it falls on you to show where that's occurred.

o_mlly said:

If true, then that would not surprise many ...

Gee, I don't know ... maybe if one has invested much time and money in an erroneous theory, they might suffer from confirmation bias.

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You're evading the obvious explanation. The reason evolutionary biologists aren't even aware of the article is because the ICR has done absolutely nothing to show it to them. For the last 22 years it's existed solely as a page on a website and nothing more, which is the case for all kinds of fringe things.

So why do you think the ICR has just been content to let this article sit on their website, completely unnoticed by actual scientists? Has it occurred to you that maybe it's because the ICR's intended audience isn't biologists and is instead laypeople who lack the expertise to spot its flaws but are predisposed to believe it regardless (because it tickles their ears)?

Are you okay with it wallowing in obscurity, never affecting science, and eventually fading away like so many others of its kind?

I will now leave this thread

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I don't blame you.

rambot said:

Sometimes they do actually.

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So? On those rare occasions, let the doctors decide. Until then, a child's biological sex/gender can be assigned at birth. Heck, it can be known before birth with an ultrasound.

Clare73 said:

Israel has the same chance to come in as do the Gentiles; i.e., "if they do not persist in unbelief." (Ro 11:23).

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Thank you!

Thank you, Holy Father.

ARBITER01 said:

Why we Christians still have to struggle with sins?​

Why was Jesus able to have victory over them? Part of it was He was innocent and knew no sin, but as also a man upon the earth, He was tempted in all respects like us.

So what was His secret to His victory?

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He, unlike us, was born without Original Sin; He shared in our mortal humanity, but did not have the same inborn spiritual disease that the rest of us have inherited from Adam.

He was never a slave to sin, was never a slave to His passions and bodily appetites, His (human) will was always and is always in perfect unity with the Divine Will so that in all things He is and always was in perfect agreement in mind, will, and act with the Father.

He could be tempted, He was human. But the sinfulness that infects us and drives our desires inwardly to gratiate ourselves was never a part of Him. That is why He is the perfect and blameless Paschal Lamb who suffered and died in our stead--He who was without sin and knew no sin was "made sin" for us sinners. The perfect life of Jesus was laid down, death had no claim over Him (the "wages of sin is death"), He said He freely lays His life down and freely takes it up again. His death was not earned, but was a freely offered participation in our death, in our suffering, our mess.

His victory over sin is His laying down His life and suffering the ignoble and shame of the cross in order to destroy the very power of sin which holds the world in bondage. The "secret to His victory" is that He is the God-Man.

It is our union to Him, by the grace of God and the indwelling of the Spirit, i.e. our regeneration and having become new that we are charged with a new obedience to follow Christ and live according to the Spirit, to put to death the old man through repentance, and to pursue holiness. We will, in this life, never attain impeccability--because as long as these old bones are hanging around the old Adam still breathes--but we in the New Adam are given a new breath of life, and thus are invited to cooperate with God in living according to justice in love of our neighbor. To reckon ourselves no longer slaves to sin, but slaves to justice.

The Day is coming when these old bones will be laid down, whether through mortal death or kingdom come, and these old bones shall be raised and changed, having borne the image of the first Adam, we shall bear the image of the Second; what is sown in dishonor is raised in honor; what is sown mortal is raised immortal; what is sown decaying raises without decay, incorruptible. This flesh must be changed, from soulish to Spiritual.

But these old bones are still here, and so ours is a struggle between the Old Man and the New. Simul iustus et peccator. We are sinner-saints. We must take up our cross and follow Jesus Christ. If we could shrug off the Old Man then it wouldn't be a cross.

-CryptoLutheran

rambot said:

HJow are they going to prove that someone was actually a part of "antifa" though...and not just protesting...

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Same way we check when we blow up the boats in international waters. Who cares? (sarcasm)

tampasteve said:

Parking of the eucharist/communion is an outward sign of being properly prepared as well as unity with the church that you are taking it at. If you are not Catholic then you are not prepared or in unity with the church, why would you want to pretend otherwise?

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As far as I am concerned I would not be pretending anything.
There is one God, one Saviour, One Holy Spirit and one Gospel. All who receive Christ have eternal life, John 6:40, are children of God, John 1:12 and have passed from death to life. That's everyone - Catholics, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, non denominational or someone in deepest Africa who has just been taught the Gospel.
I don't agree with some aspects of Catholic teaching but I have often said on these forums that they are my brothers and sisters in Christ. We have the same Saviour and same heavenly Father - of course we are in unity. The Catholic church might not see it that way but that is what I believe Scripture teaches.
When I was in a Catholic church, at their invitation, it would have been nice to have received communion, with them, as fellow Christians together.
Yes, maybe in their eyes I'm the same as an infidel/not worthy of it/out of communion with the church. I don't see it that way and, fwiw, I don't believe God does either.

Though it is academic in a way as I doubt I will ever go to a Catholic church again.

tampasteve said:

I am in an impaired state with the RCC and can't take communion either.

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According to the Catholic church, maybe not.
I'm sure you'd be very welcome to receive it elsewhere.

tampasteve said:

The Eucharist matters to the Catholic Church,

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It matters to me too.
It matters very much that Jesus told his disciples to "do this in memory of me" and churches, of all denominations, impose man made rules which exclude people.

tampasteve said:

it isn't just a symbol and it isn't just sharing a meal - it is the literal body and blood of Christ,

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When we have communion the Minister says "the body of Christ to keep you in eternal life" - that is what it is and that is what we receive.
I'm not going to get into an argument about whether it remains a piece of homemade/shop-bought bread or turns into literal flesh; I don't see that that's necessary and Scripture doesn't teach it.
If Catholics remain adamant that I am not receiving the body of Christ or regard it appropriately; so be it.
They would have no right to judge nor to comment on my relationship with the Lord. Especially not on a public forum in a thread which claims to be interested in unity.

Larniavc said:

And risk turning gay?!

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I hope that you aren't that easily swayed.

stars1777 said:

How would you live your life if you truly were doomed to hellfire because of this sin? I don't want to hear anyone say that if you are worried about it, you haven't committed it. Please just give me a straight answer to this question please.

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You would do whatever you desired to do.