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Harris reveals she almost picked Buttigieg as VP, feared America wasn't ready for duo

Despite being a football coach who hunts, he came off as being somewhat effeminate.

Well, I didn't expect that. I don't get to pick candidates, but for future reference: what would make a candidate sufficiently masculine for you to approve of him?
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

I never could stand Jimmy Kimmel, especially when he cried on-air over Trump winning the election. But, I'm also for free speech. So, unless his ratings were low, I don't see a reason for dismissal.
His ratings were abysmal.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

Honestly, I think this was what ABC needed in order to suspend Kimmel. His ratings were in the dump. He wasn't funny and hasn't been for a long time. Local affiliates decided he wasnt worth carrying any more. And ABC decided he wasn't worth it. They finally got rid of a dumpster fire of a show. This was a good excuse to do it.
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Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

College students who don't know basic math (or any other subject) should never have even graduated High School. Yet there they are in college showing total ignorance about basic things. Do you think they get much smarter upon graduating from college? The time they spend there protesting against Jewish people indicates they aren't learning much at all.
Do you believe this particular former college student didn't learn the subject matter when getting a Juris doctor cum laude?
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

Sadly, politics news would be boring if the news didn't lie or make a big deal out of stories.
Maybe that is why all the rating are so low on the news networks you watch. There is no possible way it could be that they were proven so many times to be fraudulent, biased, misleading, or downright wrong.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

It's weird watching people exploit his death.
Its weird watching you totally be disingenuous with the truth.

Have you missed all those on the left who have celebrated his death? I doubt it. Those who have excused his death with, OH it was tragic.... but.....

Then there is the right who is devastated by this assassination and pointing out the truth of the rhetoric from the left that led to his death.

The right hasn't fomented any violent rhetoric in response. They have been grieving and speaking out against the violence from the left.
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Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

It depends on the statement rhat is made. Going to college doesn't mean you are smart. Rhwre are a lot of smart people who are dumb. There are a lot of people some would consider dumb who are smart.

People should be judged by their actions, their words and the things they believe and trust in.

Brown showed her stupidity by not being able to say what a woman was. We've also heard and read some of her opinions.

Reid has said a lot of ridiculous things throughout her career.
This is silly. If graduating college, and getting a juris doctor cum laude isn't indicative of having brain power enough to be taken somewhat seriously, I wonder how high you're setting the bar. To you and @Aldebaran it seems that only the smartest person in the world have enough brain power to be taken somewhat seriously. Which is a ridiculous standard, do you believe you should be taken somewhat seriously?
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How is the Economy Doing Right Now?

Correct. Now is not the time to be worried about the economy, the Epstein list that Charlie Kirk wanted released, or Trump's negotiations with China for a trade deal. We need to be focused on getting the most out of the assination of Americas beloved commentator Charlie Kirk and punishing the liberal left that made it happen with their unhinged hate speech and agenda.
Yeah, how dare the left be so irresponsible as to use their freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment!! Don't they know how dangerous words can be?

Unless, of course, those words come from Donald Trump. Nothing he says could possibly ever have any negative effect, ever. Nope, not possible.

-- A2SG, know your rights. All three of them! (thanks Joe Strummer)....
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Trump's unnecessary wall wasn't completed and worked well enough when Trump was president. You can hardly blame the lack of completion of the wall for the huge numbers of illegal entries under Biden.
I haven't heard a reliable number for that illegal entries. 10 million? 5 million? A Brazilian?
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Empathy

So help me understand how and WHY empathy is bad.

I don't know for sure what Mr. Kirk intended, but there have been some recent books by conservative Evangelicals on the topic of empathy: "The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits", by Joe Rigney, and "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion", by Allie Beth Stuckey. I suspect Kirk may have had one or both of them in mind. I'm not going to be able to summarize their viewpoint fairly (I know I will end up caricaturing them, so I will refrain), but here are two relevant articles.

1) Albert Mohler interviews Joe Rigney. Note that both are favorable to the anti-empathy point of view.

2) An article from the AP, posted on PBS's website. This author is more impartial, but I think the writer is trying to be fair.
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Radical Serge in Republican Voter Registrations Sin Carlie Kirk's Death

Well, you are ignoring the fact that she claimed that it was James Comey who "tanked" her campaign right before the election, implying that if Comey had not, she would have won. So, she either knew perfectly well what happened and is being disingenuous, or you both are gaslighting in an attempt to walk back her statement.
No, that's her opinion. You're free to disagree with her opinion, of course, but she has every right to hold it, and I happen to agree there's some merit to it. But, it is speculative. We have no way to know what might have happened had Comey not made that announcement: he did, and what happened happened.

But, what cannot be disputed is the fact that more Americans voted for Hilary Clinton than Donald Trump in 2016. It just didn't matter what more Americans wanted, because of the way the electoral college works.

Calling half the country a "basket of deplorables" is what you would consider running a good campaign?
That is not what she said. You know, since MAGA is so hung up on how Trump is quoted "out of context" or "misrepresented", they sure prefer to indulge in that practice themselves.

Here are Clinton's exact words:

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

She admitted she was being "grossly generalistic," and she also specifically said she was referring to "half of Trump's supporters" not half the country. And she then went on to specify exactly which half of Trump's supporters she was referring to.

So, if you're going to refer to Clinton's words, please try not to misrepresent them, or quote them out of context.

-- A2SG, it'd be a big help.....
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Senate passes resolution for 'National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk' for Oct. 14th (Kirk's birthday)

Including the ones aborted?
That's right. Change the topic to one where you are more comfortable instead of answering the question. Just the right way to honor Kirk's memory.

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Trump said there was a need. He also bizzarely said that Mexico would pay for it. Even more bizzarely, some people were stupid enough to believe him. Now those same people are claiming that the number of immigrants has dropped significantly under.

What they are effectively saying is that Trump lied to them.
???
TRUMP TERM ONE
After saying how terrible the situation was, he solved it by building a partial wall and initiating crazy policies.
Trump lied in his campaign. OK.

BIDEN
There was a border crisis for much of his term, certainly in Year 2 and Year 3 allowing way too many illegal entries. Some Republicans think 11 million or more under Biden. Some sources have a more reasonabe 5 million estimate. We really don't know. We do know how bad it was.

TRUMP TWO
Since the start of the campaign, Trump criticized Biden's policies again and again and again. Trump said that Biden had the power to stop the flow even without congressional action. Biden finally changed his policies and greatly reduced the illegal entries in his last few months. But the damage was done and the situation was clear. Biden's policies failed and allowed many millions of illegals into the country and allowed them to go to cities throughout the land.

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
Is there a belief here that Democrats running in 2028 will have more strict immigration policies than Biden? Really? Several Democratic candidates in 2020 wanted to erase the notion of illegal entry, making such actions a non-criminal matter.

Democrats need to be really, really clear on the issue of border security or lose millions of votes AGAIN.
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Talking of free speech, from here: Judge strikes down Trump’s $15bn lawsuit against the New York Times

A federal judge tossed Donald Trump’s $15bn defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, book publisher Penguin and two Times reporters, and said the suit was filled with “vituperation and invective” and violated civil procedure in federal cases for failing to get to the point.

“Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages,” Merryday wrote. “Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three … Even under the most generous and lenient application of Rule 8, the complaint is decidedly improper and impermissible.”

Merryday noted the “many, often repetitive, and laudatory (toward President Trump) but superfluous allegations,” and “much more, persistently alleged in abundant, florid, and enervating detail”.

The judge’s order does not address the truth of the allegations nor the validity of the claims, but said “a complaint remains an improper and impermissible place for the tedious and burdensome aggregation of prospective evidence, for the rehearsal of tendentious arguments, or for the protracted recitation and explanation of legal authority putatively supporting the pleader’s claim for relief.”

Ouch...
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Radical Serge in Republican Voter Registrations Sin Carlie Kirk's Death

Being close to win is irrelevant; she was defeated.
No one is saying otherwise.

In 2016, aside from Senator Sanders—who was not a Democrat—there were no credible challengers to Secretary Clinton. Democratic leadership assumed it was Clinton's turn and believed no one could defeat her. Primaries should involve a competitive process so voters can choose their preferred candidate, but that was not the case for Democrats in the 2016 primary.
I seem to recall primaries back then, with more than one candidate, at least at the onset. Bernie, as I recall, lasted longer than the others, but Clinton was not the only candidate, so Democrats did have a choice. She got more votes than anyone else, and that's why she secured the party nomination.

Same way these things normally work.

Did James Comey’s outburst about Clinton a week before the election affect the results? I believe so, especially since he kept the investigation into Trump private. Did Russian social media propaganda against Clinton have an impact? However, these were not the sole factors contributing to Clinton's loss in the election.
That didn't help, as I said. But, you're right, they were not the sole factors. The electoral college was. The fact remains, more Americans voted for Clinton than Trump, but for no more reason than the way the electoral college is organized, Trump got the requisite 270+ electoral votes, and Clinton did not.

And that's why she was not president in 2017.

If there had been more candidates in the 2016 primary, issues like emails, servers, and classified information might have been discussed more openly, giving voters a fair chance to evaluate everyone carefully. Instead, voters were left with only Clinton as their option.
There were six candidates in April, 2015 prior to the Iowa caucus. After that, the two leading candidates continued their campaigns, the rest did not. Democrats in Iowa made that determination, not the party. If you want to blame anyone for a lack of candidates going forward from there, blame Iowa Democrats.

Hillary Clinton, while recognized for her intelligence and policy positions, she had no charisma like her husband or President Obama. Her style lacks the inspirational quality typically associated with highly charismatic politicians. While President Trump’s policies may not appeal to everyone, he demonstrated the ability to energize his base much like Presidents Obama and Clinton did during their campaigns. Charismatic politicians tend to motivate voters, whereas those perceived as more reserved and analytical, such as Hillary Clinton, may face challenges in cultivating similar enthusiasm. Do you know she did not visit two important states needed to win: Michigan and Wisconsin, during either the primary or general election. Instead, her campaign focused on Georgia and Arizona.
You're not wrong on any of those points. Clinton absolutely could have run a better campaign. I seem to recall Bill telling her exactly that back in the day. But, in the end, for all her deficiencies and errors during her campaign, she got more votes than her opponent. That fact hasn't changed. It just didn't matter.

It appears that the Democrats didn’t learn anything from 2016 election. Even after nine years, many continue to attribute their loss to external factors such as Russia's involvement and James Comey's actions. They made the same mistake in 2024 by nominating a candidate who received no primary votes.
I'm still unclear on the lesson to be learned from the 2016 election. Get rid of the electoral college, perhaps? Go with a strictly popular vote for President. I'm all for that, I was saying that long before 2016. I believe the electoral college, whatever the reason for its existence, isn't necessary.


We the people preferred Trump over Clinton in 2016.
Nope. More of we, the people voted for Hilary than for Trump. It was the electoral college that decided otherwise.

-- A2SG, it's a fact. You can look it up anywhere you like....
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Trump settled the war between Aberbaijan and Albania, apparently

There are rumors of war in venezuela, there is this old meme, of usa and invading countries with oil, venezuela has lots of oil....
We don't want war........ for dirty oil. Usa needs to stop being bully of the world not feed that perception.
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Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

They have all graduated from college, and have managed to have successful careers. I see no reason to believe they are lacking in brain processing power. Do you hold all to the same standard? Does a single statement that you do not agree with mean that the speaker lacks brain processing power? Wouldn't that mean that exactly all persons you've interacted for some length of time, lack brain processing power? Including yourself, I'm certain you've said things that you find wrong in hindsight.
It depends on the statement rhat is made. Going to college doesn't mean you are smart. Rhwre are a lot of smart people who are dumb. There are a lot of people some would consider dumb who are smart.

People should be judged by their actions, their words and the things they believe and trust in.

Brown showed her stupidity by not being able to say what a woman was. We've also heard and read some of her opinions.

Reid has said a lot of ridiculous things throughout her career.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

There was no need for a wall.
Trump said there was a need. He also bizzarely said that Mexico would pay for it. Even more bizzarely, some people were stupid enough to believe him. Now those same people are claiming that the number of immigrants has dropped significantly under.

What they are effectively saying is that Trump lied to them.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

It's too bad Trump's wall was ineffective.
Trump's unnecessary wall wasn't completed and worked well enough when Trump was president. You can hardly blame the lack of completion of the wall for the huge numbers of illegal entries under Biden.
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