Chesterton said:

Those companies are not even remotely related. They compete against each other.

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The retail stores do, but there are not very many as you see. The wholesale market is dominated by segments.

The Liturgist said:

The Catholic Church never did that. As proof, we have the Challoner Douai Rheims and earlier vernacular translations.

Indeed the Vetus Latina and later the Vulgate were in their day vernacular translations, making the Greek and Hebraic texts accessible to the middle class and lower class speakers of the Western Roman Empire (in the Western Empire, only the wealthy could send their sons to a Rhaetor to learn Greek).

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The Catholic church most certainly did do that according to the testimony of many. Not regarding holy scripture altogether, but regarding translations of holy scripture she did or would not approve of. Which were written with the exact intent of people being able to read the scriptures in their own languages. She and all other denominations have the right to forbid such for their own members, to be enforced by disfellowship at the most. Neither she nor any other professed Christian entity has ever had the right to forbid such for those outside of their churches, or the right to punish those even within them, beyond the limits of disfellowship. This is the abuse of authority our Lord has never given to His church. Which He Himself does not dare most obviously, to exercise over the consciences of humankind. As it is against His nature, most obviously, to do so.

Nor is it the right of any Christian to demand that all must learn a language they do not know, in order to have and read holy scripture. Especially during times when getting such an education was beyond the limits of so many. I say again, who has more responsibility to get God's word into the hands of the people in a language they can read and understand, than the professed followers of God Himself? No one.

Dan1988 said:

There's always been only one way to come to Christ. We are all born dead in sin, and we remain dead unless God quickens us to life and saves us.

I was dead in my sin when God saved me, you're suggesting that those who are dead in sin can activate their faith and force God to make them alive and save them. But there's nothing in the bible to support your silly theory.

The only thing dead men can do is stink, and all they can contribute to their salvation is filthy stinking rags.

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In Romans 1:16 Paul said that the gospel is the power of God for salvation. The scriptures state several times that the word of God does in fact save us.

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭16‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

““Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My WORD, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5‬:‭24‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

“In the exercise of His will He brought us forth by the WORD of truth, so that we would be a kind of first fruits among His creatures.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

“for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring WORD of God.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1‬:‭23‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The gospel has the power to elicit a response in those who hear it. So no, when people hear the gospel and receive it they’re not saving themselves at all, they’re actually being saved by the Word of God given to man by God Himself that Jesus commanded His apostles to preach to all nations which was to fulfill His promise that when He is lifted up He will draw all men to Himself in John 12:32. You seem to think that the word of God itself has no power at all.

Quote from the article, " America’s debt has grown rapidly over the last decade as the population ages and enrollment in Social Security and Medicare rises."
Because Medicare and Social security still have a surplus, the debt does not rise at all, though the payments are rising.
The government always has taken money from the social security trust fund and gives the trust funds IOU's for the surplus. Currently the payments of social security are requiring more of those surplus IOU's to be cashed. So accounting wise, the IOU amount is reduced, while the borrowing from the public pays off the IOU's. This is merely substituting one debt for another and the debt amount stays the same.

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The retail monopoly in that case consists of Walmart, Costco, Kroger and Delhaize. The Wholesale side seems to be dominated by companies like Pepsico, Sysco and Nestle.

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Those companies are not even remotely related. They compete against each other.

JohnB445 said:

Knowing and believing are not the same thing.

Someone can come to me and tell me they saw a bass the size of a beagle, I take their word for it and believe them and go to the pond where they claimed it was, but there is no way for me to know they are telling me the truth, I just have faith.

Just like I would have to have faith they are telling me the truth about the large fish, I would have to have faith of the testimony and stories in the Bible being fact?

I do believe the Bible is true, but can I know for sure? Or can nobody know as long as they have not met the Lord.

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It is the Holy Spirit who gives one to know that Scritpure is indeed the word of God, from the mind of God, speaking the truth of God.

WordSword said:

The gloss here is that the Word will no longer be in part, because it will then be complete. I'm still trying to determine why God explained it that way. The word needed signs to be accepted to the Jew, until it no longer needed signs to believe ("I put away childish things" - 1Co 13:11).

It's ok if we differ in our understanding on this issue, thanks for the feed-back!

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It's ok with me too.

WordSword said:

The idea of God ceasing in the capacity of the gifts to allow faith to reach its maximum. The more the proof you have, the less faith there will be. "Hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?" Same for faith. Faith is believing without proof!

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I wasn't really asking about the timing of prophecies failing, tongues ceasing, and knowledge vanishing away (1 Cor 13:8). I was asking if you have noticed that those who believe 1 Corinthians 13 is speaking about the completion of the Bible also tend to believe that the Bible guides us into all truth (as oposed to believing the Spirit guides us into all truth). I was just asking if you have noticed any connection. And by implication, I am wondering where you fall on this aspect of the issue.

Valletta said:

In addressing false charges that the Catholic Church was in a vast conspiracy to block the people from the Word of God, know that the truth is just the opposite. Before the printing press Catholics in monasteries might have one Bible (because of the time and expense in having a Catholic copy Biblical text) and so Catholics who were sent out had to memorize long passages of the Bible. Saint Anthony of Padua, born in 1195, memorized all 73 books of the Bible and went out and preached:

"As the historian Clasen interprets it, Anthony preferred to present the grandeur of Christianity in positive ways. It was no good to prove people wrong: Anthony wanted to win them to the right, the healthiness of real sorrow and conversion, the wonder of reconciliation with a loving Father.

Public Preacher, Franciscan Teacher​

Anthony’s superior, St. Francis, was cautious about education such as his protégé possessed. He had seen too many theologians taking pride in their sophisticated knowledge. Still, if the friars had to hit the roads and preach to all sorts of people, they needed a firm grounding in Scripture and theology. So, when he heard the glowing report of Anthony’s debut at the ordinations, Francis wrote in 1224, “It pleases me that you should teach the friars sacred theology, provided that in such studies they do not destroy the spirit of holy prayer and devotedness, as contained in the Rule.”
Anthony first taught in a friary in Bologna, which became a famous school. The theology book of the time was the Bible. In one extant sermon by the saint, there are at least 183 passages from Scripture."

Who is St. Anthony of Padua? | St Anthony Shrine

St. Anthony of Padua is one of the Catholic Church’s most popular saints. Saint Anthony of Padua, patron saint of lost and stolen articles, was a powerful Franciscan preacher and teacher. He’s typically portrayed holding the child Jesus—or a lily—or a book—or all three—in his arms. Many people...

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I know there are many examples of good Catholics doing the right things throughout history right up to the present. This has nothing to do with censorship or not though, regarding official teachings or documents of the Church of Rome, or mandates of censorship from Catholic kings with approval from the church. As I have already stated, a great many of those seeking the scriptures for themselves and or others in a language they could read and understand, were Roman Catholics. Who were eventually excommunicated for such desires, reprimanded, fined, outcast, imprisoned and or killed for continuing to disagree with the papacy. The Roman Catholic church is just like all the others. Occupied by wheat and tares, which the Lord alone can and will fully separate when He returns.

Dan1988 said:

Now you have twisted the scripture backward, I showed you how we are saved. The Bible is crystal clear. We are "saved by grace" through faith, and that not of ourselves, it it the gift of God lest anyone boast.
So why have you twisted it back to front to force your theology over what God has said.

The scripture doesn't say "you were saved by faith through grace", yet this is what you’re suggesting it says. You can't be serious, surely you can see the error of your ways.

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So you’re saying that we receive the grace of salvation when we don’t have faith? We are justified with God when while we don’t have faith?

Christsfreeservant said:

“Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.​

“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, because we are members of His body. ​

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church. Nevertheless, each individual among you also is to love his own wife even as himself, and the wife must see to it that she respects her husband.” (Ephesians 5:22-33 NASB1995)​

When God created woman, he created her to be man’s helper (helpmate), partner, coworker, and companion. So he took a rib from Adam’s side to create the woman. She was to be bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh, and “for this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh” (see Genesis 2:18-25). And this is repeated for us again in Matthew 19:5 and in Ephesians 5:31.
Therefore, the fact that the woman and the man both sinned against God, and God made man to be over the woman in authority, and that she is to be in submission to her husband, it does not change the rest of this. For to “be joined to his wife” and “they shall become one flesh” has to do with the man cleaving to his wife, sticking to her like glue, to bond with her, to become one with her, united together with her in love. They are to be as one person.

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And the woman is to submit to her husband in the same way in which she submits herself to the Lord. So that means that she will submit to her husband in all ways which do not compromise morality, righteousness, truth, and obedience to God. She is not to submit to sinning in any way or to doing what is contrary to the biblical will and purpose of God for her life. But she is to value and to give regard to her husband, caring about him and his needs.

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What is this "biblical will and purpose of God for her life" to which you refer?

Christsfreeservant said:

And husbands are to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her so that he might sanctify her. This is an unselfish love which prefers all that God prefers – all that is holy, righteous, morally pure and upright in the eyes of God. And it considers what is in the best interests of others, what is for their ultimate good. So when we love others with this kind of love we will not deliberately and habitually sin against them.

Husbands are also to love their wives as their own bodies. They are to treat their wives in the same manner as they would want to be treated, provided that it aligns with God’s will, i.e. in a way that is also honoring of and loving toward God. They are to love unselfishly, being willing to make personal sacrifices for the good of their wives. And wives should love their husbands in the same way in unselfish regard for the true needs of their husbands.

[Genesis 2:24; Matthew 5:28; Matthew 15:19-20; Matthew 19:4-9; Mark 7:20-23; Mark 10:6-9; Romans 13:9; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 1 Corinthians 6:9-20; Galatians 5:13-24; Ephesians 5:22-33; Colossians 3:18-19; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8; Titus 2:3-5; Hebrews 13:4; James 4:4; 1 Peter 3:1-7; 2 Peter 2:13-19]

In Harmony

Based off Romans 12:9-21; 1 Peter 3:8-17
An Original Work / September 2, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Love each other truly.
Cling to what is good.
Hate all that is evil.
Never lack in zeal.
Serve the Lord with fervor.
Joyful in hope be;
Patient in affliction;
Praying faithfully.
Honor one another.
Live in harmony.

Share with all God’s people
Who are found in need.
Do not be conceited.
Sympathetic be.
Love, and show compassion
In humility.
Keep your tongue from evil.
Peaceful you must be.
Honor one another.
Live in harmony.

God sees who are righteous;
Listens to their prayers.
But He’s against evil –
Is His to avenge.
Do not fear what they fear.
Suffer patiently.
In your hearts, make Christ Lord.
Serve Him faithfully.
Honor one another.
Live in harmony.

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Hentenza said:

And yet you cant prove otherwise.

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Love your neighbor or promote burning them alive forever.

Such difficulty

Hentenza said:

Nah. You might want to self examine. I speak of the reality of hell

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No issues there. I accept that will happen for the devils, not those we are commanded to love

Again not hard to sort thru

Hentenza said:

which has been the core teaching of the church since the beginning.

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Uh, no. Neither Jesus or the Apostles or the entirety of the scriptures presented any named person to such a fate. Even in the midst of being murdered, Jesus forgave. So did Stephen. Examples much?

Hentenza said:

You, on the other hand, promote a diluted version of eternal punishment. This would benefit the adversary not the Christian.

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Don't know how loving our neighbors dilutes the Gospel because that IS the Gospel and the command of God

It is the lawlessness of the devils in people that does the exact opposite of the command

Dan1988 said:

Now you have twisted the scripture backward, I showed you how we are saved. The Bible is crystal clear. We are "saved by grace" through faith, and that not of ourselves, it it the gift of God lest anyone boast.
So why have you twisted it back to front to force your theology over what God has said.

The scripture doesn't say "you were saved by faith through grace", yet this is what your suggesting it says. You can't be serious, surely you can see the error of your ways.

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Your faith has saved you. Jesus said that. What must I do to be saved? Paul’s reply was “believe”. I showed you these passages and you just ignored them. Grace for salvation does not precede faith, it is received THRU FAITH which means that faith is the means by which we receive the grace of salvation. Furthermore the word grace isn’t limited to receiving salvation, grace is anything that God does for someone. The words of the prophets in the scriptures are grace, Christ’s ministry is grace, His sacrifice is grace, His atonement is grace, the gospel is grace, the Great Commission is grace. God The Father and Jesus have been bestowing grace upon man since the day Adam was created. Jesus bestowed grace upon all mankind when He commanded the apostles to go forth and preach the gospel to all nations in the Great Commission. So you can claim that faith does save us but Jesus and Paul both said that it does and I showed you exactly where they said it.

JimR-OCDS said:

Looks like an edited pic in the article.

Not sure it can be trusted.

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I agree. The photo montage of dancers near the top of the southernorderspage.blogspot.com page obviously did not come from the Kids Mass at Holy Family Parish.

I am more aligned with big benny's comments in the blog:

I liked the sign interpreter. There aren’t many priests able to offer mass using sign language so I’m sure such a service is well appreciated by the deaf community.

JP2 used to wear brown shoes!

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Looks like children’s mass at a very popular mega church type arrangement. Not entirely my cup of tea and a few things need reigning back but I don’t see that there’s a lot to jump up and down about.

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Lady: Are you the police?
Elwood Blues: No, ma'am, we're musicians ... We're on a mission from God.

Chesterton said:

In all the videos I've seen I recall maybe one which mentioned the name of a specific store. It was some supermarket name I'd never heard of. And please tell me all the names of monopolies so I can write my congressman.

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The retail monopoly in that case consists of Walmart, Costco, Kroger and Delhaize. The Wholesale side seems to be dominated by companies like Pepsico, Sysco and Nestle.

Valletta said:

As I said, please provide your one best example, detailing how sweeping it was (the number of countries) and how long it was. Two if you can't decide on one. Then we all can if the facts support your claim. You said you posted many sources, pick the best one or two and copy or paste. How hard is that?

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You did not want to start a thread to specifically address censorship as I asked you to do, in order not to change the subject of the Gibbons thread. So I did. Now you want to control the parameters of our conversation within the thread I started. No. You pick that which I have provided which you believe to be false, and we can go from there. I already spend more time on these boards than I should, regarding other things I should be getting done, addressing several different topics. Responding to posts when I have time to do so, is one thing, creating content is more time consuming.

Valletta said:

I am not going to condemn Jesus or the Apostles and their successors in the Catholic Church for not making the population literate. Jesus sent out his disciples to what . . . ? Not to make people literate or hand out Bibles. Blaming the Catholic Church, the very Church that developed our university system, for not making the public literate is something. As to Latin being the universal language of the Church, it was practical, especially without modern day communications, to have a universal language for a religion that eventually existed in every country in the world. If you wish you can start a different thread on these subjects. Meanwhile, let's see what you come up with for your best example of the Catholic Church censorship of the Bible.

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I started this thread because you would not. You will not now control the narrative on this thread, and tell me to start another.

Jesus and His Apostles did not seek to be the Imperially mandated religion of the Empire. Existing and intending to remain separate from the kingdoms and powers that be of this world, as taught by the holy scriptures themselves. They did not desire nor was it within their power to establish public educational systems at public expense. The Church of Rome did accept the position of the Imperially established religion of the empire, and could easily no doubt, have received aid from the empire to establish public education for the exact purpose of teaching people to read. With the exact intention of course, of seeking to establish the truths of holy scripture themsleves, and providing as many copies of scripture as they could. As other nations have and did.

Such kind of efforts though performed in the early church before Roman Catholicism was Imperially established, and during its early further establishment of doctrine and faith, did not continue apace as she steadily rose to greater and greater power with and or over emperors and kings. If it is not the responsibility of Christ's professed church to make as many copies of holy scripture available to as many people possible in a language they can understand, then whose responsibility is it?

You may of course choose to deny the many recorded complaints throughout history of the Church of Rome forbidding others to translate and or own translations of the bible she did not approve of, but these recorded complaints do exist. So does the record of people being punished in various forms for daring to disagree with these restrictions, up to and including death and even death by burning. If this is not an attempt to censor people from reading things one does not approve of, what is?

No one on this planet comes into this world seeking the Church of Rome's approval and or permission to do anything. Though a great many are in fact baptized into the Roman faith long before they have a choice regarding anything, and then raised as though they are bound by the dictates of the church. Nevertheless, no one anywhere at any time is subject to the dictates of Roman Catholicism save by their own choosing. Nor does or has the Roman church ever had any authority to lord itself above anyone at any time by permission and or support of the holy scriptures or God. Is the Church of Rome above God, Who Himself neither forces nor mandates anything upon those who would choose not to believe in Him? It most certainly is not, nor has God commissioned any professed Christian entity at any time to assume prerogatives which even He will not exercise over non believers or those of differing views. All such endeavors therefore are in fact anti christian, and antichrist. If God believed in force, our world as it is, would have never even existed.
There would be no devil, or spiritual battle story refought at all.

This is the bottom line of the issue we are discussing on this thread which I started regarding censorship or not. Please do prove the quotes I post regarding censorship of the bible and or other written works wrong if you wish and can. Do not waste your time telling me though, how I need to proceed in this conversation. I simply am not subject to such. This kind of thinking is exactly why people wish to censor others, that is to say, control the conversation. In this case by controlling the narrative and or parameters of a conversation. You did not care to start a topic on censorship, but now it seems you seek to control the narrative in your responses. No thank you.

NxNW said:

They spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal.

It's proof they did it. Acceptance of a pardon is further proof of guilt.

There were hundreds more, many of them armed and intent on assassinating the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

Why do you support violence?

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Christsfreeservant said:

You can read the whole chapter here at: Bible Gateway passage: Romans 11 - New American Standard Bible 1995
When it says here that God has not rejected his people, he is speaking of his people whom he foreknew. And what does that mean? It means that God foreknew who would believe in him, who would deny self, die to sin, and follow him in obedience to his commands. And those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son Jesus Christ. He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him (see Romans 8:29; Ephesians 1:3-4).
God has kept for himself a particular number of people who have not, or who will not bow to a false god but will honor Christ as Lord. There is a remnant, chosen by God, whom he foreknew, who have submitted to or who will yet submit to the will of God, who will surrender their lives to Jesus Christ, and who will die to sin and obey God and his commandments, in the power of God, by the grace of God, and not of their own fleshly works. And when it says that “all Israel will be saved,” it is speaking of biblical Israel.

And biblical Israel is comprised of all who have surrendered their lives to Jesus Christ, who have made him master of their lives, who have been crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but as slaves to God and to his righteousness. All Jews who rejected Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, if they were ever part of Israel, have been cut out of Israel. And all repentant Gentile believers in Christ have been grafted into biblical Israel.

[Genesis 17:7-9; Genesis 18:19; John 8:18-19,38-47; Romans 2:28-29; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 9:4-8,25-28; Romans 11:1-36; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 3:16,26-29; Galatians 4:22-31; Ephesians 2:11-22; Ephesians 3:1-6; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-16; Hebrews 8:6-13;1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:22; Jude 1:5; Revelation 2:9; Revelation 3:9]

Now it says here in Romans 11 that the Jews who were once part of biblical Israel, but who rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah, the Christ, were cut out of biblical Israel due to their unbelief. Compare this to what it teaches us in 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Hebrews 3:1-19; and Hebrews 4:1-13. All who reject Jesus Christ as Lord of their lives and who choose their sins over obedience to God, even if they profess faith in Jesus Christ, will die in their sins, and they will not have eternal life with God, because of disobedience.

And when it states here in verse 29 that “the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable,” we have to consider what those gifts and callings of God are. And we learn in the Scriptures that the faith to believe in Jesus is a gift from God, and salvation from sin and eternal life with God are gifted to us by God, and the repentance and obedience to God, required of God for salvation and for eternal life with God, are also God’s gifts to us. For not one of us can, in our own human effort, ever be acceptable to God, because of our sin.

And we are called of God to belong to Christ, to be his saints, according to his word and to his will and purpose for our lives. He has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. And to be holy is to be different from the world because we are being conformed by God to the likeness of character of Jesus Christ, as we surrender our lives to God and we submit to his will and purpose. And we are called out of lives of living in sin into living for our Lord in walks of surrender and in obedience to his commands, by his grace.

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So the likeness of character of Jesus Christ, as we surrender our lives to God and we submit to his will and purpose. And we are called out of lives of living in sin into living for our Lord in walks of surrender and in obedience to his commands, by his graceSo, when this says that “the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable,” it means that, as long as we have life on this earth, God’s invitation to believe in Jesus and to die to sin and to walk with him in obedience to his commands is still out there and available to usEve

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Paul is speaking of the call of Israel.
Even though Israel is in a state of unbelief, the call is being fulfilled in a remnant who come to faith in Jesus Christ.

Christsfreeservant said:

if we will choose to receive God’s gift of grace by denying self, dying to sin, and following him in obedience to his commands. God’s mercy will be shown to those who reject their disobedience to now follow our Lord in obedience to his commands.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Seek the Lord

Based off Isaiah 55
An Original Work / July 20, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Musical Instrumentation by Mark Bradley

“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

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Chesterton said:

No. Check your facts. IF there were any guns, they were in a different city. That's what the feds alleged.

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They spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal.

Chesterton said:

And a guilty plea is proof of nothing

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It's proof they did it. Acceptance of a pardon is further proof of guilt.

Chesterton said:

In fact, I'm terribly upset and surprised that 16 unarmed Oath Keepers were unable to overthrow the government of the United States of America.

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There were hundreds more, many of them armed and intent on assassinating the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

Why do you support violence?

rjs330 said:

Many of those laws and amendments actually make us less like Europe and less like other countries. Many of those Ammendments are actually making good on the original promise of the founding.

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It's crazy to me to think it's helpful to follow a 250 year old political document and think "well, this is the best we could do".

Agrarian...in the middle of the scientific revolution.....

Nuts.

Always in His Presence said:

Did you know part of why he is there is to sign the ninth peace deal in 9 months of his term?

WATCH: Trump dances on red carpet as he lands in Malaysia to witness signing of Thailand-Cambodia ‘peace deal’​

Trump joined the Malaysian group, performing traditional dance, and waved his arm after dancing on the spot ahead of the summit with leaders of the ASEAN group of nations and witnessing the signing of an expanded ceasefire between Cambodia and Thailand, two nations that were involved in skirmish briefly along their disputed border earlier this year.​

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He is quickly becoming one of the most widely traveled US Presidents in history and virtually signing one peace deal a month on average.

Does it bother you the President of the United State is being hailed so well by our allies, or is it just because it is Donald Trump?

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The actual words stand out more when read by her.

stevevw said:

But then by the same logic I can quote experts in the field which agree with me and beat your expertise lol. If citing experts is the way to win an arguement.

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Why haven't you done so already?

stevevw said:

Fact they did not have lathes or the potters wheel.

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Fact: you don't know for sure what they had.

BCP1928 said:

Yes, there's no point in denying it.

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In all the videos I've seen I recall maybe one which mentioned the name of a specific store. It was some supermarket name I'd never heard of. And please tell me all the names of monopolies so I can write my congressman.

bèlla said:

The person interviewing Dylan knew what he meant and he wasn’t referring to the Lord and his answer could be taken both ways.

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I reckon Satan is around influencing so many people especially People in power like government leaders.

The "forbidden chord" is the tritone, a dissonant musical interval that spans three whole tones and was historically nicknamed "diabolus in musica" (devil in music). It earned this name because its unsettling and tense sound was considered so jarring that it was avoided in medieval church music to maintain a harmonious and divine atmosphere. Despite its past, the tritone is now a widely used tool in many music genres, from classical to rock and jazz, to create tension or a sinister feeling.

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