Chicago principal claims teacher who made sick Charlie Kirk gesture is the victim

[Chesterton]

I understand your question and it wasn’t ignored. I won’t aid Trump supporters including christians.

I'm not being ignored and I am being ignored. That contradiction describes it pretty well actually. But in the future if you plan on ignoring someone I think it's better if you just outright ignore them rather than leading them on by continuing to reply to them with wordy, non-responsive replies.

 

[Chesterton]

No, just a run of the mill psychotherapists. We have a saying in the UK; ‘there’s nowt as queer as folk’.

I didn't know that. That's interesting. I saw a psychologist once. After I told him my troubles he told me to go kill myself. Turns out he was a reverse psychologist. <rimshot>

So we have social rules and laws to keep order.

I keep up with the U.K. a bit, being it's my ancestral homeland. You do have lots of laws, but they're often enforced unequally based on one's race. That shouldn't be happening in the 21st century.

 

[Postvieww]

So you'd think they could blow up a truck as well?

Obama was found to legally have killed 3 US citizens in Yemen. So I have no problem with Trumps drug interdiction on the high seas. As for blowing up trucks that is hypothetical trolling. If Trump ever blows one up we can discuss it then.

 

[Postvieww]

That's it? The protesters are either unsupported, unorganized individual actors or they are part of a hierarchical monolithic cabal created by George Soros?

When interviewed it is easy to separate the organizers from the sheep. Some are paid to be there as organizers and some can’t clearly articulate why they are there. It should be quite clear this is not an organic movement of concerned citizens worried about democracy. It is on one hand sad and on the other quite amusing that so many people can be easily duped by agitators working to tear down this republic. If you don’t believe masses can be duped by slick talking agitators, explain how an outright communist is the front runner for mayor of NY?

 

[Postvieww]

I keep up with the U.K. a bit, being it's my ancestral homeland. You do have lots of laws, but they're often enforced unequally based on one's race. That shouldn't be happening in the 21st century.

You are correct laws should not be enforced based on race and equally neither should political agendas be promoted based on race.

 

[NxNW]

"At the ready"? In a hotel room in Virginia?

No, in a truck nearby, among other places.

I normally don't ask people to do my homework, but I figured that since this insurekshun was the most horrific event in American history, worse than Pearl Harbor and 9/11 combined, I should be able to find some photos or videos of this arsenal, since there were very legal legal proceedings of course. But I couldn't. Could you find some for me?

You'd have to check the court records, but since they pled guilty to sedition, that's all the proof you need. One wonders why you're not upset at Trump supporters planning to overthrow the government.

 

[Chesterton]

No, in a truck nearby, among other places.

No. Check your facts. IF there were any guns, they were in a different city. That's what the feds alleged.

You'd have to check the court records, but since they pled guilty to sedition, that's all the proof you need.

I'll take that as a "no", you couldn't find anything. Cops and media love showing us big, scary guns. Seems like there'd have been at least one pic. And a guilty plea is proof of nothing, especially in a federal court.

One wonders anthropology you're not upset at Trump supporters planning to overthrow the government.

In fact, I'm terribly upset and surprised that 16 unarmed Oath Keepers were unable to overthrow the government of the United States of America.

 

[BCP1928]

When interviewed it is easy to separate the organizers from the sheep. Some are paid to be there as organizers and some can’t clearly articulate why they are there. It should be quite clear this is not an organic movement of concerned citizens worried about democracy.

No doubt you are disappointed that you don't "own the libs" yet. Are you sure Trump hasn't overplayed his hand?

It is on one hand sad and on the other quite amusing that so many people can be easily duped by agitators working to tear down this republic. If you don’t believe masses can be duped by slick talking agitators, explain how an outright communist is the front runner for mayor of NY?

Because many voters want him to be mayor.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

68% of campaign funds from k-12 teachers went to democratic candidates or committees, from the same source you referenced earlier. I found another reference, with just 41% democrats from education week (that actually asked the question about political affiliation, 27% were republican and 30% were independents) so we are down to something like a fifty-fifty chance or less of her supporting disciplinary action by employers. Which I must say is something else than what you said, the gloating and celebrating bit.

It's more than 50/50 when you factor in the fact that she's from Chicago (Cook County Illinois is one of the deepest blue counties in the country, not far behind San Francisco County, CA and Prince Georges County, MD). And Illinois Teachers' unions are some of the most politically active (in favor of Democrats) in the country.

The dynamic would be a little different if we were perhaps talking about a private school teacher from rural Kentucky.

So you combine the fact that she's in a near 70/30 democratic profession (nationally), in is from a county where it's already 80/20 democratic regardless of profession. And then combine both of those things with the fact that she clearly has an activist-type inclination, and thinks it's okay to mock someone who got shot in the neck (which is way worse than getting fired)

When asking the question, "percentage likelihood that this person would have been celebrating conservatives getting in trouble and/or fired for expressing controversial viewpoints on social media?", what would your honest estimate be on a scale from 0-100?

I can understand a resistance to saying "100"...but I think we can both agree it's much closer to 100 than it is to 0.

 

[bèlla]

Because many voters want him to be mayor.

I think he’ll win. He was recently on the cover of TIME and the photo is peculiar. Not in a negative way but it’s something you notice when you take pictures. In the image half of his watch is exposed and it happens but you can cover it with the sleeve or remove it in post processing but they didn’t. I looked at similar images of men and never saw the same. As your eyes move down the page the 49 stands out.

Then I wondered how long is the term for NY mayors and they serve four years. And I said to myself, we elected the 47th in 2024. The 48th will be elected in 2028 and the 49th in 2032. The Economist Magazine often does things like this. The images foretell what’s ahead. I don’t usually associate the same with TIME but it caught my eye and I’ll see if The Economist follows suit.

~bella

 

[NxNW]

No. Check your facts. IF there were any guns, they were in a different city. That's what the feds alleged.

They spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal.

And a guilty plea is proof of nothing

It's proof they did it. Acceptance of a pardon is further proof of guilt.

In fact, I'm terribly upset and surprised that 16 unarmed Oath Keepers were unable to overthrow the government of the United States of America.

There were hundreds more, many of them armed and intent on assassinating the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

Why do you support violence?

 

[Chesterton]

They spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal.

It's proof they did it. Acceptance of a pardon is further proof of guilt.

There were hundreds more, many of them armed and intent on assassinating the Vice President and Speaker of the House.

Why do you support violence?

Citations needed for your entire post.

 

[Postvieww]

Because many voters want him to be mayor.

Of course if he is mayor somebody voted for him. That said, it is a sad commentary on many voters in NY. Anyone who thinks a communist is a good choice for NY has no allegiance to the constitution.

 

[NxNW]

Citations needed for your entire post.

They admitted all of it. And then admitted it again when they accepted the pardon. How many times do they have to admit it?

 

[BCP1928]

Of course if he is mayor somebody voted for him. That said, it is a sad commentary on many voters in NY. Anyone who thinks a communist is a good choice for NY has no allegiance to the constitution.

Trump and his sycophants say he is a communist, but that's a bald-faced lie and you know it. In any case, I am not aware that the Constitution mandates any particular economic system for this country. The Constitution is about governance, not economics.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If you don’t believe masses can be duped by slick talking agitators, explain how an outright communist is the front runner for mayor of NY?

Because he’s the only candidate talking any sense to the voters. Of the other two leading candidates, one is a career politician nepo baby who already has a bad track record in politics and the other is a nut who thinks he’s living in the Warriors universe and has failed mayoral campaigns several times. So yeah, the young, charismatic Muslim man who is a socialist and has centered his campaign on affordability is absolutely the most appealing candidate for office.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Of course if he is mayor somebody voted for him. That said, it is a sad commentary on many voters in NY. Anyone who thinks a communist is a good choice for NY has no allegiance to the constitution.

Where does the constitution say anything about communism?

 

[Hazelelponi]

One wonders why you're not upset at Trump supporters planning to overthrow the governmen

Except they were there to protest the government, not "overthrow' it.

To overthrow a government one needs more than empty hands and a little frustration.

A thousand unarmed people protesting at a single government building isn't a threat to government continuity. You could triple that number - you could even give them the whole building for a week and zero damage would be done to government continuity.

A tiny unarmed mob, however angry, isn't a threat to the US government - if you think it is you really don't understand our governments structure.

We had a mob of angry protestors who believed themselves wronged. The situation got out of hand for a lack of police but order was restored. Life goes on.

I don't like to see anyone break the law or vandalize government property, personally, but treating it like it was our republics brush with extinction is simply theatrics.

When people are rising up in every town committing violence, demoralizing the population and intimidating them into voting differently than they might otherwise vote as they carry around different constitutions and/or waving different flags then you can worry about whether someone has a goal of government overthrow and whether or not they might possibly achieve their ends.

 

[Chesterton]

They admitted all of it. And then admitted it again when they accepted the pardon. How many times do they have to admit it?

You understand why it's called a plea deal, right? They make a deal - prosecution goes lighter on you if you do things they want, and in this case it included admitting to sedition.

I'd still like a link or something for your claim that "they spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal".

 

[Chesterton]

A thousand unarmed people protesting at a single government building isn't a threat to government continuity.

Bear in mind, in the conversation he and I are having, he's only talking about the Oak Keepers, and there were a whopping 16 of them.